Undergrad tix next year

[Will]

Hey, the system would be much easier if they just gave me my tickets, let me give as many tickets to my friends as I want, and then let the rest of the fans fight in deathmatches for the remaining tickets.  Yeah, you all know that would be the best system. :-P :-D

[dsr11]

Nah, no holds barred Jello wrestling would be the best way to distribute titckets....

[Keith K \'93]

I agree that this is essentially a bad idea.  Obviously Athletics is catering because they don't want to lose the GPSA money.  From a business sense understandable, but still a bad idea.

As one of the GPSA members who originally pushed to for athletics funding/free tickets for grad students, I think it's sad that the GPSA would've voted to eliminate this.  Another example of grad students with blinders on, not wanting to participate in campus life. You can't spend all your time in the library or lab. (Obviously I'm not ripping you, Baby_Fan).  But that's democracy in action.

[Q]The complaints voiced by the many who showed up that day to our GPSA meeting was that grad students have different obligations (e.g., if you had to TA a section of lab on friday afternoon) and they might not be able to wait in line for 2 days.[/Q]I do disagree with this statement.  Grad students can get out of their obligations too.  It just takes a little more thought and creativity (trade sections, for instance).

[Báby_Fan]

Keith K '93

To put the vote in context, the GPSA (again, not me) initially wanted to cut Athletics funding b/c the student activity fee is jumping to $60 (a ten $ increase) this coming year due to the overwhelming number of grad student groups (now reaching 200) on campus which are requesting an overwhelming amount of money to fund "outside of lab/library" fun time (i.e. events).

So, really, the GPSA wasn't doing it to cut out "fun time" for grad students but rather to finacially support events that are created for grads students by grad students and attended by grad students without raising the student activity fee even more.

The return offer by Athletics was unexpected to say the least, and yes, I agree that they made a sensible "business decision" here.  The GPSA's argument that most grad students couldn't get tickets (for whatever reason) was abided and the GPSA then felt that it was a valid allocation of funds.

Perhaps the undergrads who are upset about this should consult their SA about why they cut funding to Althetics this year. Where was that money allocated instead?

[Ben Rocky Harris 04]

The undergrad Student Assembly refused to fund athletics at the desired amount as Athletics refused to provide a break down for over $100,000 they requested.  It was like the disney-pixar fight, both sides acted dumb and didn't expend the effort to find a solution.  Don't take issue with the GPSA or the grad students, they submitted to Athletics demands, take it up with the SA for not fully funding them, or tell the admin. in Athletics to better explain where student's money is going.

[Keith K \'93]

[Q]So, really, the GPSA wasn't doing it to cut out "fun time" for grad students...[/Q]OK, I was being a little harsh before and I'm glad grad students are doing more.  I was just remembering too many cries of "grad students don't care about Cornell sports" from other GPSA members when we were pushing this issue.

[Facetimer]

Maybe if your name wasn't so stupid I would spell it correctly. Ever think of that before you criticized?

[David Harding \'72]

[q]Is anybody else amazed and amused that an institution of alleged higher learning has not figured out how to do this fairly, simply, and without, to use Tom Lento's beautiful term, "entertainment", after 30+ trials?[/q]

When was the first serious line for hockey tickets?  I wasn't conscious of a big deal my feshman year, but I could have missed it.  I walked into every home game with my cupon book that year (68-69).  It seems to me that the next year we got into line late Thursday evening after hearing on WVBR that people were gathering.  We stayed, in shifts, until tickets were handed out Sunday morning.  Pretty much the same story the next year.

[Robb \'94]

The "inconsistency" I was talking about would surface if Athletics:

1.  Continues to offically prohibit a 2-day line.

-and-

2.   Establishes a special procedure for grad students to buy tickets so that they can avoid a 2-day line (which shouldn't exist in the first place if they actually enforced rule #1 fairly and effectively).

Didn't mean to imply that the GPSA itself was being inconsistent, Baby_Fan

[Greg Berge]

To establish an upper bound, by my freshman year (Fall 81) the line was already well established.  I actually liked the way they did it that year the best of all subsequent systems -- no restriction on when to line up, random checks, one miss allowed per 24 hours, limit 2 tickets per person.  We self-policed and kept the cutting to a minimum.  It worked.  Freshmen/sophomores were relegated to wait until upperclassmen had gone in and chosen their seats, so no upperclassman got shut out and no underclassman who showed up early got shut out.  I waited for 1.75 says, burned my one miss on a class, had a great time, and wqund up with absolutely terrible seats but in the building.

[Jim Hyla]

[Q]David Harding wrote:

When was the first serious line for hockey tickets? [/Q]Well, there was hardly a line for 65-66 (at least not that I can remember). But there was definately one for 66-67. I remember it well, being second or third in line and sleeping part of the night in my car parked in front of Teagle. At that time the tickets were sold much closer to the beginning of the season, when it was alot colder than Sept. or early Oct..

We policed our own line till the AM, only one overnight.