Cornell lacrosse 2024

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

as good a place as any to drop this one:

Olympic Lacrosse

and I'm completely in support of a team from the Haudenosaunee nation at the Olympics, fwiw.

That would be very, very cool.

[jtwcornell91]

as good a place as any to drop this one:

Olympic Lacrosse

and I'm completely in support of a team from the Haudenosaunee nation at the Olympics, fwiw.

That would be very, very cool.

They already compete as a nation in the World Lacrosse Championships, but I suspect that would be hard sell with the IOC, who tend to use the same national groups for everything, e.g., by having England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland play as Great Britain in soccer.  (We'll see how this plays out when cricket becomes an Olympic sport in 2028, since the ICC has England+Wales and Scotland playing separately, and Northern Ireland playing as part of a unified Ireland team, not to mention the West Indies playing as a single team.)

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

as good a place as any to drop this one:

Olympic Lacrosse

and I'm completely in support of a team from the Haudenosaunee nation at the Olympics, fwiw.

That would be very, very cool.

They already compete as a nation in the World Lacrosse Championships, but I suspect that would be hard sell with the IOC, who tend to use the same national groups for everything, e.g., by having England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland play as Great Britain in soccer.  (We'll see how this plays out when cricket becomes an Olympic sport in 2028, since the ICC has England+Wales and Scotland playing separately, and Northern Ireland playing as part of a unified Ireland team, not to mention the West Indies playing as a single team.)

For team GB, it probably would work the same as it does in Rugby or Soccer/Football, where England, Scotland, and Wales play as separate countries other than in the olympics.  And various West Indian countries play as their national teams in the Caribbean T20 tournament, so that precedent is already set.

[billhoward]

There might be some intra-nation grievances – "you enslaved our people in 1066 and we will never compete under your flag" – versus the idea of three close-by islands or nations combined having a better chance to reach the podium. Say if Catalonia separated from Spain, would they get Olympic standing?

Interesting question of how high in the medal standings they'd be if California seceded.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

There might be some intra-nation grievances – "you enslaved our people in 1066 and we will never compete under your flag" – versus the idea of three close-by islands or nations combined having a better chance to reach the podium. Say if Catalonia separated from Spain, would they get Olympic standing?

Interesting question of how high in the medal standings they'd be if California seceded.

I suspect not very well.  A lot of the athletes go to schools in CA, but they come from someplace else.

For example, none of the swimmers are from California, nor are any of the female gymnasts.  I got half-way through the women's rugby team, and only found 2 from California.  Many of the Women's soccer team are from the east coast and went to UNC or UVA. And certainly the track athletes come from all over.

[jtwcornell91]

as good a place as any to drop this one:

Olympic Lacrosse

and I'm completely in support of a team from the Haudenosaunee nation at the Olympics, fwiw.

That would be very, very cool.

They already compete as a nation in the World Lacrosse Championships, but I suspect that would be hard sell with the IOC, who tend to use the same national groups for everything, e.g., by having England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland play as Great Britain in soccer.  (We'll see how this plays out when cricket becomes an Olympic sport in 2028, since the ICC has England+Wales and Scotland playing separately, and Northern Ireland playing as part of a unified Ireland team, not to mention the West Indies playing as a single team.)

For team GB, it probably would work the same as it does in Rugby or Soccer/Football, where England, Scotland, and Wales play as separate countries other than in the olympics.  And various West Indian countries play as their national teams in the Caribbean T20 tournament, so that precedent is already set.

Apparently the Olympic field in 2028 will be only six teams, presumably the hosts (USA) plus 5 qualifiers.  Considering that the current top five are India, Australia, England, West Indies and South Africa, that makes the qualification issue interesting.  Does WI get one slot determined by some qualifying process (I thought the CPL was a club tournament like the IPL, Big Bash League, MLC, etc, but it looks like it is tied to countries)?  Or is there a qualifying tournament with the top five non-WI teams plus a few countries from the Windies?  (Sorry about the thread drift.)

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

as good a place as any to drop this one:

Olympic Lacrosse

and I'm completely in support of a team from the Haudenosaunee nation at the Olympics, fwiw.

That would be very, very cool.

They already compete as a nation in the World Lacrosse Championships, but I suspect that would be hard sell with the IOC, who tend to use the same national groups for everything, e.g., by having England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland play as Great Britain in soccer.  (We'll see how this plays out when cricket becomes an Olympic sport in 2028, since the ICC has England+Wales and Scotland playing separately, and Northern Ireland playing as part of a unified Ireland team, not to mention the West Indies playing as a single team.)

For team GB, it probably would work the same as it does in Rugby or Soccer/Football, where England, Scotland, and Wales play as separate countries other than in the olympics.  And various West Indian countries play as their national teams in the Caribbean T20 tournament, so that precedent is already set.

Apparently the Olympic field in 2028 will be only six teams, presumably the hosts (USA) plus 5 qualifiers.  Considering that the current top five are India, Australia, England, West Indies and South Africa, that makes the qualification issue interesting.  Does WI get one slot determined by some qualifying process (I thought the CPL was a club tournament like the IPL, Big Bash League, MLC, etc, but it looks like it is tied to countries)?  Or is there a qualifying tournament with the top five non-WI teams plus a few countries from the Windies?  (Sorry about the thread drift.)

Wow.  Only 5 teams besides the USA?  That eliminates some serious competitors (Pakistan, Sri Lanka, NZ, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh).

I didn't realize that the CPL was a two-stage club tourney.  Based on Wiki, there's a six team round robin, then a playoff round with the top 4.  But yes, it is tied to countries.