Cornell Thanksgiving & Christmas hockey

[css228]

Thanks. I'd love to see us play Michigan but the airfare condition seems condescending on the part of the Wolverines. Perhaps I am wrong, but such conditions seem insulting and should be uncommon.

Re: Penn State. It did appear on ELynah shortly after Penn State received its gift from Pegula that will allow it to go D-I. Penn State has agreed to play RIT at the Blue Cross Arena (another regional arena that Cornell might consider using for neutral site, non-conference games, it hosts annually the Atlantic Hockey Championship tournament). It has locked in games against Wisconsin at the Kohl Center as well. Thank You Terry, a blog from Penn State hockey, has posted a more recent update about Penn State's schedule and scheduling negotiations. The blog is a good source of interesting commentary. He seems not as acquainted with common features of college hockey as some of us, but he is an avowed fan of ECAC hockey, especially RPI, Princeton, and Cornell. http://thankyouterry.blogspot.com/2011/09/penn-state-to-meet-rit-in-2012.html?m=1 The post states that "Joe Battista said back in March that PSU was also in discussions with UConn, Holy Cross, Army, Air Force, UAH, Princeton, Cornell and Michigan State." I would love to see a Cornell-Penn State home-and-home series at Lynah in 2012 and then the new Pegula Arena in 2013. It appears to be in the works but not finalized. However, in the spirit of full disclosure,I am biased, I am a law student at Penn State Law (graduated from Cornell in 2010). I would like to develop schedile overlap with B1G Hockey so that Cornell has a chance to play quality teams like Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin more often. I mean, those teams have to head East to play Penn State now at least twice a year.

You're not the only one who finds the airfare condition insulting. I want to play them, but Red Berenson needs to realize that he's dealing with one of the few ECAC teams that good teams want to see on their schedule. I have never heard a fan of another team say, "Our schedule is great, but I wish we could have replaced Cornell with someone else." He needs to stop treating us (and quite frankly all other programs) like we're Bentley or AIC. College hockey isn't popular enough that the "big' schools (of which there aren't that many anyway) can only afford to play amongst themselves. It could lead to more programs going the way of UAH and if NCAA programs start folding, keeping your recruits from going the Major Junior route is going to be much harder. To say the least, its a short sighted policy. If Michigan holds true to it, I'd much rather try to get UD, UNO, Miami or someone like that to come out here.

First of all, why do we keep repeating this? Do we know it's true, or is it one of those internet rumors that just keeps on going, and going, and going...

Secondly, didn't you just treat Bentley and AIC like you're accusing UM of doing? Or doesn't Bentley and AIC belong to "all other programs"?

My point is, we all wanted to be treated well, and think we shouldn't be treated unfairly, but we all do it. Do we go to Sacred Heart or Canadian schools? Not often, we want them to come here. UM makes its money by playing there, for them to come here they want some perks (maybe, I'm still not convinced till I see documentation). That's the way things go in sports. I don't like it, but no one really cares that I don't, and I'm not going to put others down for doing what we do. They just do it on a bigger scale.

Fair enough. We have played series at UAH in the past. As for the Canadian schools, I feel no obligation to play at their places because they're not NCAA programs. I do regret using those two schools as an example. However I will correct myself with a legitimate example that does not belong under all other programs, which would be the Alaska schools, since the cost structure of a trip out there is astronomical. But you are right about my hypocrisy and I thank you for pointing it out.

[Chris '03]

We have played series at UAH in the past.

We have?

[css228]

We have played series at UAH in the past.

We have?

Turns out I was wrong. Thought the 2002 series was at Huntsville. It wasn't. Misread the database. Though we did play at Providence College.

[Josh '99]

First of all, why do we keep repeating this? Do we know it's true, or is it one of those internet rumors that just keeps on going, and going, and going...

Seriously.  Some dude tweeting about something doesn't make it true.

[mountainred]

Finally, please avoid the temptation to knock Cleveland -- I lived there for 25 years before returning to upstate NY.  It's a great city, although its professional teams are hurting at the moment.  Fans could also take in a concert by the Cleveland Orchestra and visit the Cleveland Museum of Art.

But the Theatrical is no more!:-/

Lived there for seven years, you won't hear me knocking the town -- though Al's point about the demise of the Theatrical is valid.  :`-(

[cbuckser]

First of all, why do we keep repeating this? Do we know it's true, or is it one of those internet rumors that just keeps on going, and going, and going...

Seriously.  Some dude tweeting about something doesn't make it true.

I better chime in because I am the person to whom that tweet was directed.

I have been friends with Peter Charbonneau since first grade.  He's not a bullshit artist, and I am confident that he wouldn't just make up rumors.  That said, I don't know who gave him that information or how reliable it is.  I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the person who told Peter about the chartered-flight demand misunderstood or had faulty information about the negotiations between Cornell and Michigan.  I just don't know.

In case you are wondering why Peter has heard anything about future Cornell hockey games at Madison Square Garden, I'll explain.  He worked for BU Athletics for eight years, and, after he left, was an integral part of the Red Hot Hockey event planning staff in 2007, 2009, and 2011.  You know the Red Hot Hockey logos?  He designed those.  He also is the person behind the Red Hot Hockey twitter account and facebook pages.