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#1
Hockey / Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Today at 12:27:16 PM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on Today at 03:08:39 AMUltimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper.  IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Forwards should not go. It's a case by case basis, obviously, and to be honest Castagna has a much higher likelihood of success than eg. Bancroft or Angello did when they left. But our early departures have failed to crack the NHL far more often than not regardless of position, and anyone considering leaving before graduation should exercise extreme caution.

AHL salaries are (considerably) lower than a typical intro finance role most Cornell hockey graduates get right out of college.

I'm not sure there's a ton of projecting to be done with the last decade or so of players. Morgan Barron is the only one who has put together a steady starting role for more than a couple seasons, although Sam Malinski appears poised to join that list.
#2
Quote from: stereax on March 03, 2026, 08:48:14 AMWild story outta HEA - post-goal light effects are now banned after a play was improperly blown dead.

Presumably, play resumed with a face-off. There should be some mechanism for UConn to get possession of the puck in that scenario.
#3
Hockey / Re: Lynah Attendance
March 02, 2026, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: adamw on March 02, 2026, 06:01:50 PM
Quote from: Iceberg on March 02, 2026, 04:29:47 PM
Quote from: cth95 on March 02, 2026, 02:08:13 PM
Quote from: upprdeck on March 02, 2026, 11:21:28 AMhaving 1700+ SRO packed in would seem to pretty close to a fire code issue.   Are those concourses huge?
I live in Vermont and take my kids to see Cornell at Dartmouth every year (especially with no UVM in the mix).  The concourse at Thompson is huge and does wrap around the entire rink. I have never seen the seats much more than 1/2 to 2/3 full over the many years I have been going.  There are always a few people on the concourse whom I assume just prefer to watch from there.  Does Princeton draw more than Cornell?


I mentioned the tradition in my previous post and I can't find a page with good info, but there's a longstanding practice that whenever Princeton visits Dartmouth, the fans throw tennis balls onto the ice whenever the home team scores. It goes back to when people at Princeton tried to make fun of Dartmouth by throwing tennis balls whenever the visitors had a game at Baker Rink. In retaliation, people at Dartmouth reciprocated the insult and it stuck. It's the only game there that's a guaranteed sellout and certainly draws more than whenever Cornell visits

Edit: Found it. The tradition started much more recently than I had thought

https://www.ncaa.com/news/icehockey-men/article/2017-01-12/some-best-college-hockey-traditions

This is where I'm going to have to chime in again for the newbies (I do this annually, at least somewhere)...

This is by far the most INANE "tradition" in hockey. Not the action, but the reasons. Absolutely asinine. I was there to watch it all unfold.

The Baker Rink crowd did NOT -- I repeat, NOT -- target Dartmouth for this. Total fallacy, and the dumb-ass Dartmouth students of the time somehow got it in their heads that they did.

I was Princeton's broadcaster at the time. The Princeton "crowd," as it were - had a thing where it would throw oranges -- not tennis balls -- on the ice when playing ANY team.

Toot Cahoon, the coach at the time, absolutely hated this. It didn't take him long to make sure this thing was stopped.

For whatever reason -- the Dartmouth "fans" got wind of this, and thought somehow that it was directed at them.

The rest is (moronic) history.

There's a reason why I hate them more than the rest of the conference.
#4
Hockey / Re: Polls and NPI 2026
March 02, 2026, 08:57:18 AM
Quote from: stereax on March 02, 2026, 08:55:11 AM
Quote from: BlueSky on March 02, 2026, 08:22:59 AM
Quote from: stereax on March 01, 2026, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: pjd8 on March 01, 2026, 10:08:16 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on March 01, 2026, 10:02:57 PM
Quote from: pjd8 on March 01, 2026, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: BearLover on March 01, 2026, 11:23:38 AMWhen I watch this team, we don't look dominant.

I tend to agree, though we've certainly had our moments. I think that's a function of having so many freshmen.

And yet here we are, ninth in NPI, an Ivy title, and third in the ECAC having beaten everyone at least once, so we can do it again. Think what will happen as this freshman class matures.

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.


The only team we didn't beat at least once this season is BU- the only one e that we played once.

Yes, I was just referring to ECAC teams, but maybe that's a good omen for us if we meet them in the post season. It *might* happen. They are finally above .500.

They have to win the HEA playoffs to get in. If they get in, they'll be a 4 seed. If we stay at 9 (highest 3 seed), we're probably going to be vs Denver, probably one of the Michigans, and Bentley or whichever AHA team wants to be cannon fodder. (And if we're against Denver, it's almost certainly gonna be in Colorado.)

I recommend listening to and reading the USCHO Braketology information. They lean toward Albany for us to try to get some sort of crowd there...if we lose in the Quarters of ECAC, and maybe the semis, we might get sent to Denver, but if I'm betting, I'd say ALB vs. UMD. We'll see.
I keep an eye on the bracketology Reddit stuff, haha. But yeah, Albany makes a lot more sense for us. They'll almost certainly want Denver in Loveland, and NoDak in Sioux Falls, and the rest of it is just chip shuffling away. Good thing for us is that we're good at drawing crowds, which can help us get "closer" seeding even if it isn't chalk.

If it IS Albany, I'm gonna do whatever the hell I need to to try to be there. (And if it IS UMD... Kovich :( )

There's a chance I'll have to be out of town on the regional weekend, so I am convinced we will wind up in Sioux Falls just to spite me.
#5
Hockey / Re: Lynah Attendance
March 01, 2026, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: BearLover on March 01, 2026, 12:13:34 PMCan someone explain how the listed attendance for last night's game at Dartmouth is 5,195 in an arena that seats 3,500? If you watch the highlights, it looks as full as any Cornell game this season.

Something something wall street accounting.
#6
Hockey / Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
March 01, 2026, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: stereax on February 28, 2026, 11:22:44 PMYale or RPI please.

Clarkson or Colgate will take years off my lifespan, and Harvard isn't as sucky as we like to think it is.

I just don't want to see Colgate again. That chipfest seemed to really throw us off our game.
#7
Hockey / Re: Cornell vs Clarkson, 2/28/26
February 28, 2026, 08:18:09 PM
Scrumming is Wallace's thing, and it's Senior Night, so he's gonna do his thing.
#8
Hockey / Re: 2026 Olympics
February 22, 2026, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: ugarte on February 22, 2026, 05:22:14 PMstill laughing that we didn't get hit with a too many men on the ice right before the double minor.

hughes goal was nice; werenski fighting through the defense to get him the puck was beautiful. hellebuyck getting the secondary assist was pretty cool too.

i do not love 3x3 OT to decide a 5x5 game but i have to admit i could be convinced to watch a full game of firewagon 3x3 every once in a while. Game to 11 or something because 60 minutes of it would be boring as hell. I don't feel great about what that says about me but it's true.

Yeah. It makes for a cool sport but it's a different sport.
#9
Hockey / Re: 2026 Olympics
February 22, 2026, 02:42:15 PM
Obligatory whining that 3v3 OT is lame.
#10
Hockey / Re: Cornell at Princeton 2/21/26
February 21, 2026, 10:14:43 PM
Not ideal, but Princeton's been pretty decent this year and great at home. Plus they got a big goal on a one in a million bounce. It happens.

Let's go get 'em next week.
#11
Hockey / Re: Cornell at Princeton 2/21/26
February 21, 2026, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: stereax on February 21, 2026, 08:27:00 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on February 21, 2026, 08:24:05 PMPrinceton has a rocket up their ass right now.  Gotta take the air outta the puck and then come from behind in the third.
I need these fucking announcers to choke on 3+ Red goals in the third.

They're so loud in the mix, too. Can barely hear the sounds on the ice.
#12
Hockey / Re: Cornell @ Quinnipiac, 2/20/26
February 21, 2026, 01:35:53 AM
Well that was nice.
#13
Hockey / Re: 2026 Olympics
February 20, 2026, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: ugarte on February 19, 2026, 11:17:54 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 19, 2026, 02:46:29 PMOTOH, just about any National Anthem is better than our pilfered drinking song.
speaking of anthems and drinking songs... i caught the tail end of Mizzou-Vandy basketball (i miss you, AK Okereke) and Mizzou's band was playing a song suspiciously similar to Far Above Cayuga's Waters.

Went to a University of Kansas bar to watch them play Kentucky in the basketball finals about 10 or 15 years ago. Bar broke out in their Alma mater at one point. Same tune.
As for the hockey, three beautiful goals in a three-goal game. Felt like USA had the run of play (despite surprising shot totals for most of the game) and depth won out. As good as the Keller move/goal was, the stretch pass to spring her was some Magic Johnson no-look brilliance.
#14
Hockey / Re: 2026 Olympics
February 18, 2026, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: ugarte on February 18, 2026, 06:10:58 PM
Quote from: BearLover on February 18, 2026, 06:06:21 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on February 18, 2026, 05:46:03 PMCrazy slate today with 3 of 4 quarterfinals going to OT. US pulls it out and gets Slovakia, who is doing well but should certainly be beatable.
Definitely disagree with those who were saying 3x3 OT is boring. It shouldn't decide important games, but it's super exciting.
absolutely. unlike NHL OT where the standings structure encourages endless dithering in the neutral zone, do or die 3x3 is real firewagon fun.

Deeply unpopular opinion: I like a shootout more than 3x3 sudden death.

3x3 combines the back and forth of a shootout with just enough puck luck to make it feel less than even, plus all the puck possession that stalls momentum.

Now, I think a whole league/sport that's just 3x3, no sudden death, could be fun.
#15
Hockey / Re: Polls and NPI 2026
February 16, 2026, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: stereax on February 16, 2026, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on February 16, 2026, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: BearLover on February 15, 2026, 11:29:00 AMBasically, if a game goes to OT, it should be referred to as a tie, unless you want to be granular and differentiate OT wins/losses from regulation wins/losses. But doing this differentiating is cumbersome and most sources don't bother.

Yes.  I wonder if we polled the coaches and players they would vote to tie after 60, full stop.
3v3 play is useful in that it prepares college athletes for NHL/similar league play, where OT proceeds the same way. Plus, strategy in 3v3 is markedly different than at 5v5.

That being said, the "possession game" OT has become fucking sucks to watch.

3x3 OT sucks in the pros, too.

If nothing else, you should lose possession if you leave the offensive zone with the puck. Like a backcourt in basketball.