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Quote from: BearLover on November 06, 2025, 11:07:40 AM

Quote from: Jim Hyla on November 06, 2025, 10:49:40 AM

Quote from: BearLover on November 05, 2025, 08:55:34 PMWell, I came to this forum to tell people about the fascinating podcast I just listened to on CHN, and what do I see?

Quote- leave it to BL to twist things around into oblivion, and if they don't fit into the narrowly defined specifications of his liking, then everyone must be terrible or doing something wrong or misleading people. No one is being misled. No one thinks they are being misled. As I said, they endlessly debate, with each other, what the right thing is. If 1.2/0.8 isn't working out, they'll change it. So far it's close enough. And if it was so easy to "game the system" by scheduling nothing but road games - why aren't teams doing it? Like I said, listen to the podcast.

Huh? I was, quite literally, misled. I thought home/away weighting was intended to be accurate. Why wouldn't I? The rankings are meant to do their best to capture the most deserving teams for the NCAAs, so obviously I would expect each of the components to serve that same purpose??? I would guess many others had the same misconception.

You weren't misled, you made an assumption that wasn't accurate. The home ice formula has been discussed on this forum forever. Adam has explained the rational for getting large schools to move out a gazillion times. Large schools loved to play small schools at home to pad their record and pad their income. The powers that be didn't like that, so tried to do something about it.

If you weren't part of that discussion, then researching before assuming would be the correct approach.

Yes, the entire disagreement at this point is over the use of the word "misleading." In any event, I would guess that most fans have the same misconception of the weighting that I had (that the idea is to reflect home ice advantage).

Misconception means you had the wrong idea.

Being misled implies that someone was actually leading you in that direction. That your misconception was due to others.

Misinterpreting means you made an assumption that was incorrect. So your misconception was due to your own misinterpretation.

Unless you can show where you were led astray, I think that you misinterpreted and weren't misled.

Quote from: BearLover on November 05, 2025, 08:55:34 PMWell, I came to this forum to tell people about the fascinating podcast I just listened to on CHN, and what do I see?

Quote- leave it to BL to twist things around into oblivion, and if they don't fit into the narrowly defined specifications of his liking, then everyone must be terrible or doing something wrong or misleading people. No one is being misled. No one thinks they are being misled. As I said, they endlessly debate, with each other, what the right thing is. If 1.2/0.8 isn't working out, they'll change it. So far it's close enough. And if it was so easy to "game the system" by scheduling nothing but road games - why aren't teams doing it? Like I said, listen to the podcast.

Huh? I was, quite literally, misled. I thought home/away weighting was intended to be accurate. Why wouldn't I? The rankings are meant to do their best to capture the most deserving teams for the NCAAs, so obviously I would expect each of the components to serve that same purpose??? I would guess many others had the same misconception.

You weren't misled, you made an assumption that wasn't accurate. The home ice formula has been discussed on this forum forever. Adam has explained the rational for getting large schools to move out a gazillion times. Large schools loved to play small schools at home to pad their record and pad their income. The powers that be didn't like that, so tried to do something about it.

If you weren't part of that discussion, then researching before assuming would be the correct approach.

Quote from: BearLover on November 04, 2025, 04:49:11 PM

Quote from: Trotsky on November 04, 2025, 04:32:36 PM

Quote from: ugarte on November 04, 2025, 04:27:26 PMIn this case i'm with BL. "We don't know his reasons" is something for church. the rest of us base our opinions on what we can see

OK, but what do we see?  Only a single fact.  We know nothing behind it.  So if the coaching staff is at fault for losing guys then it is equally to their credit when we steal guys.  Thus, they are doing fine.

Now, I see no universe in which it is reasonable to assume the coaching staff is responsible for any of these changes of player heart, but even if we posit that then our staff is still doing fine.

"Coaching staff makes one mistake" does not equate to "coaching staff sucks."

There is ALWAYS the risk of a change of player heart when you don't bring guys to campus. Ergo, you bring guys to campus when they're ready to contribute to your team, else you might lose them to a change of heart, change in family economics, whatever. We had an opportunity to bring this guy to campus, and we didn't. One can reasonably blame the coaching staff for misevaluating Pelletier's readiness and not bringing him to campus. That's very different from blaming the coaching staff for the player experiencing a change of heart.

I haven't followed his recruiting closely, but you keep saying that we didn't bring him in. Do you know that for a fact? Could there have been some academic issues? Do we know that he wanted to come this year? As was said by someone, did he think it might have been good to wait a year and see what other prospects might open up? Might he have thought waiting might open more monetary opportunities?

I have multiple questions that I don't have answers to, so I don't make declarative statements. Maybe these have been answered and I missed them, but maybe we don't know who made the decision not to come, CU or the player.

Quote from: Trotsky on October 23, 2025, 05:46:42 PM

Quote from: chimpfood on October 23, 2025, 11:50:50 AMNeed to see Walsh and Hoyt in this one

I don't think Jason mentioned whether they were banged up or just numbers casualties last week.

I posted this on the Czech thread:

"Coach had some comments in the Friday luncheon.

We are either the tallest, or maybe second tallest, I don't remember. But even with that, he thinks we're still faster than we have been.

Walsh and I think it was Stanley were out because of a good helping of caution."

Quote from: George64 on October 22, 2025, 03:54:11 PMTribute to Ken Dryden

Thanks for the link.

Memories, memories...

My college team and favorite pro team from before college and could get "Hockey Night In Canada" from Kingston, Ontario. Couldn't be any better than that.

God, all of that was a long, long time ago.

For a couple of points mentioned above, Coach had some comments in the Friday luncheon.

We are either the tallest, or maybe second tallest, I don't remember. But even with that, he thinks we're still faster than we have been.

Walsh and I think it was Stanley were out because of a good helping of caution.

No need to worry about re-injure when it wasn't necessary.

Quote from: Trotsky on October 21, 2025, 01:40:04 PM

Quote from: adamw on October 14, 2025, 10:01:51 PM

Quote from: dbilmes on October 10, 2025, 03:21:01 PM

Quote from: Trotsky on October 10, 2025, 04:49:08 AMEverything College Hockey (ECH) NCAA Top 20 Prediction:

01. W. Michigan
02. Penn State
03. Michigan State
04. BU
05. BC
06. Maine
07. Denver
08. Connecticut
09. Michigan
10. Minnesota
11. Ohio State
12. Masachusetts
13. North Dakota
14. Arizona State
15. Providence
16. Cornell
17. Quinnipiac
18. Wisconsin
19. Northeastern
20. St. Thomas

This is the only ranking I've seen this season which puts Cornell ahead of Quinnipiac.

best off to ignore them - not a credible source whatsoever.

Is ECH the outfit that was created to "lift the visibility of college hockey as a recruiting destination for athletes," or something, and IIRC it had a "here's 50k be our figurehead" like Ron Francis or somebody?

I'm dredging my admittedly poor memory and that's what I come up with.

Their website leads with their merch store which seems to signal they are the Quinnipiac of college hockey reportage.

Were you thinking of College Hockey Inc.?

Quote from: TimV on October 20, 2025, 01:38:16 PMQ-Colgate seems like a long trip between games.  How about Q-RPI and Colgate-Union to split the difference.

Yes, Q-gate is about an hour longer than the current Q-Princeton

Quote from: BearLover on October 20, 2025, 10:50:18 AM

Quote from: VIEWfromK on October 18, 2025, 06:13:17 PM

Quote from: chimpfood on October 18, 2025, 05:59:34 PMBut the quote "I'm going to get my degree" is promising.

Like Angello getting his degree?

Lines like "I value getting my degree"/"my family has always valued education"/"hockey doesn't last forever and you always want a backup plan" are standard fare quotes—-I wouldn't read too much into them.

How can you be negative about this. Angello said he's coming back to get his degree. That's nothing but positive. You really had to stretch it this time.

Try to sit back and enjoy the good things in life. If you look for them, you'll find some, even in today's climate.

Nicest remembrance for me is:

"You're Not Dave"

Chanted at away games.

RIP, you'll be remembered by many!

Quote from: marty on October 17, 2025, 04:41:47 PM

Quote from: scoop85 on October 17, 2025, 09:51:43 AMCornell's game notes say that the game will be on ESPN+, so hopefully that's accurate. And this is the same team we beat 4-1 during the summer 2024 tour.

The app is so different this year but.... I'm not seeing the game listed on my Android phone version of ESPN.

It's on mine now

Quote from: scoop85 on October 17, 2025, 09:51:43 AMCornell's game notes say that the game will be on ESPN+, so hopefully that's accurate. And this is the same team we beat 4-1 during the summer 2024 tour.

At the luncheon today Coach Jones said that all he knew the game was to be online. He said he heard that all production guys were coming and that he would check when he got back to Lynah.

He did have video of them at Brown.

Of course they are going to be there for the women's game.

Anyway, I'm going to the women's game. So if it's still not clear by then I'll ask

Quote from: Jim Hyla on October 13, 2025, 05:56:49 PM

Quote from: scoop85 on October 13, 2025, 04:06:38 PMBarron with 1G, 1A in today's 5-2 win over the Isles.

Beautiful goal.

Here

and here's his not so wonderful assist.
Scroll down to second period Stanley's goal

But, hey I'm sure he likes every point.

Quote from: scoop85 on October 13, 2025, 04:06:38 PMBarron with 1G, 1A in today's 5-2 win over the Isles.

Beautiful goal.

Here

Quote from: chimpfood on October 13, 2025, 03:18:01 PMVery exciting to have a game this week. I am super curios to see how all of the newcomers look, as well as guys returning from injury. The Czechs play Yale on Wednesday so if they publish the stats from that one we can get a sense of what kind of score line we should hope for.

Although their game against us is shown as on ESPN+, Yale doesn't list it as online, nor does ESPN. That seems strange.