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And for the freshman players ... waterboarding?

Cornell men's soccer second in pre-season poll. Princeton first. They meet Saturday Oct. 17, 4pm, at Princeton.

2026 Ivy League Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
Place    Team    Points (First Place Votes)
1.    Princeton    123 (14)
2.    Cornell      111 (2)
3.    Penn          94
4.    Harvard       79
5.    Brown         59
6.    Dartmouth     41
7.    Yale          39
8.    Columbia      30
Princeton is ranked #8 in the pre-season poll, which covers 25 teams. Cornell was Also Receiving Votes. 

Quote from: George64 on August 23, 2026, 08:42:36 AMDoug, Brock - not bad company!  But how would a 20-something know?

Claude would know all.

Quote from: marty on August 19, 2026, 05:43:22 AMHopefully this bodes well for an earlier hockey season start. I like to dream.

Hopefully this bodes well for a Cornell hockey season that lasts through the second weekend of April.

More than a dozen Penn State students and one student's lawyer/father were indicted for allegedly selling drugs in bigly amounts on campus in 2023 and 2024. The indictments were disclosed this week, Aug. 17, 2026.

QuoteABC 7 New York
Prosecutors allege that two fraternities - Sigma Chi, where [defendant and alleged ringleader Agostino] Abbatiello was a member, and Delta Upsilon - hosted parties involving drugs and hazed pledges with cocaine.

"Cutting and bagging cocaine was, for some pledges, an indoctrination into the Delta Upsilon and Sigma Chi fraternities," the attorney general said.

According to the criminal complaint, one defendant, Thomas Robinson, thought the arresting cops were actually non-cops playing a prank. Getting tasered helped clarify their status as law enforcement.

Penn State said, "We are horrified by these serious allegations ... criminal activity, including hazing such as this, has no place at our institution." One reading might be Penn State is as concerned by hazing as by drug dealing. Or vice-versa.

It appears law enforcement in and around Happy Valley was taken by the scale of the operation (deals reportedly of a kilo at a time), the amount of money involved, a handgun in possession of a defendant, and that one student's father allegedly was holding cash and product.

(One of the stories mentioned cocaine in quantities of "1000 grams," maybe there was no grams-to-kilos conversion table handy.)

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CBS News Pittsburgh

Wondering about Pannell's net worth, him being one of the greatest players in lacrosse.

That'd be an interesting People-type story: The Ten Most Affluent Lacrosse Players Ever, and why.

[edit add:] Apparently the Ten Most Affluent thing has been done, at least as Rev 1.0

When he broke the professional lacrosse total points record, Pannell had 346 goals (52% of his points), 314 assists. See these infographics for info on how pro lacrosse players make money and how much the top ten are worth. 

Enterprise Wired says players build net  worth from salaries in PLL or NLL (formery MLL), endorsement deals (shoes, lacrosse gear, energy drinks), ownership sakes and business ventures, and camps-clinics-digital content monetization. The top two are worth $8-$10 billion. Joe Tsai and Chase Coleman III are Yale alumns, Tsai was cofounder of Alibaba and controlling owner of the Brooklyn Nets, Coleman is in private equity. From thee it falls to a calculated $5-6 million for No. 3 Paul Rabil.

Pannell's net worth is reported, they say, at $200K-$600K "estimated" built around a PLL salary of $40K-plus, merch/speaking money. That puts him at No. 10.

If those numbers are accurate, you'd make more money as a defensive back in the SEC.

Quote from: stereax on August 16, 2026, 02:26:34 PMI mean it's a bullshit ranking by idiots. But it's nice to be respected in the bullshit rankings by idiots.

It's too early to get riled up about Harvard and BU. So we chide each other. My thoughts turn to Daniel Patrick Moynihan on "Defining Deviancy Down," as in what we find as weird, abnormal or criminal needs to be readjusted to account for more deviants and weirdos and now to the new world of odd posts online. Not among this august group, of course. https://www.jstor.org/stable/41212064

>>> Not a whole lot to be excited about here ... but I guess that's why they play the games on the court.

Between car crashes, altercations, the occasional shaved points, and domestic violence allegations, the courts play major roles. .

Cornell's 46 points is also 2 points above being projected in sole possession of next to last. It is also 36 years since our last (tied) Ivy League title.

2026 IVY LEAGUE PRESEASON POLL (First Place Votes)
1. Yale – 127 (15)
2. Harvard – 111 (1)
3. Dartmouth – 94
4. Penn – 75
5. Cornell – 46
5. Princeton – 46
7. Brown – 45
8. Columbia – 32

A charter to MSG?
There is the Big Red bus aka C2C but it is not yet showing the late-November schedule. The earlier November schedule shows a 9:45 am Saturday bus but not the 5:45 am departure that is available weekdays.

Quote from: chimpfood on June 28, 2026, 01:01:41 PMLooks like we lost assistant coach Nat Graham to Drexel

Graham moves to Drexel as an assistant coach, went to Penn ('97), has been an assistant coach for two decades now.

Richmond unlike Cornell also lacks a vicious winter. The indoor facility at Cornell benefits a lot of Big Red teams.

This middle graf was painful:

QuoteCollege Hockey News
Prior to that, Rassey was an assistant at Harvard for Ted Donato, who recently resigned after 22 years as the Crimson's head coach.
Despite CHN learning of the agreement Wednesday, Harvard has yet to make an official announcement as of this weekend.
The other finalists for the job were Dartmouth assistant Jason Tapp, and Niagara head coach Jason Lammers.

Which as an editor I'm reading this as, "Hey, we broke the story, why don't you acknowlege it? We're not Sports Illustrated [neither is SI this decade] but still, give us some credit ... " Sometimes breaking a story comes easy: Cornell had a major-sports hire coming [like decades back], I had an idea who it was, I called the house on behalf of the Rochester paper, the babysitter answered and said, "They're out the evening, he wants you to know he's very much interested and if he can talk tomorrow, great." Coaching is one more profession where everybody leaks like a sieve.

Quote from: Weder on June 11, 2026, 02:29:12 PMIn ancient times, the ECAC scheduled women's conference games on Saturdays and Sundays, so a very, very small handful of people could opt to spend the whole weekend at Lynah a few times a season.

Opponent's women play Sunday in Ithaca, that can be a long bus ride home (Dartmouth, Harvard, Brown). OTOH, the team doesn't miss many Friday classes. I am having a hard time remembering how many Friday classes I had, but it may be remembering how many Friday pm classes I got to. Back in the day, the Cornell Sun played some touch football games at the Yale Princeton Dartmouth etcetera papers Saturday morning and I thought that took priority.

Quote from: Iceberg on May 21, 2026, 12:35:04 PMI would think UMass will have a return visit to Lynah but maybe not this coming season since Cornell had two OOC home series last season and so I'd think they would go on the road for another OOC series to a team other than Omaha.

Trying to think of how many times a Home & Home stretches beyond back to back years to H&H over three years and, if ever, over 4 years. There has to be an agreement at least between coaches / athletic directors that the teams play at both schools.