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Quote from: TrotskySo if Sam retired in 1971 we have between then and 89 when Grady started unaccounted for.  I know Arthur was color for a while, but IINM not PBP.

Aha, quoting Arthur fronm 2006:

QuoteIn the thread announcing Tom Joseph's passing, Bill Howard suggested:
[q]Some time it would be fun (well, a little) to recall all the Cornell sports announcers and where they've gone on to. It would be boring as hell for eLynah denizens who thank Adam Wodon is an old-timer.[/q]

Here's what I remember ...

I arrived at Cornell as a freshman in the fall of 1967. Sam Woodside announced Cornell hockey (and most other Cornell sports) on WHCU. Sam was occasionally assisted by his son Jim Woodside, but for the most part he did the broadcasts by himself.

Sam retired in the early 1970's, and was succeeded by Jay Levine, who broadcast games for a year, or two at the most. After Jay came Roy Ives, with Tom Joseph as his sidekick.

After the 1980 ECAC championship / NCAA "frozen four" season, Roy left briefly to broadcast minor league hockey, but that didn't work out, and he returned to Ithaca. WHCU hired Chris Moore, a recent Ithaca College graduate, to handle Cornell hockey in Ives' absence. Moore worked first with someone from WVBR (Pat somebody, whose name escapes me now ... sorry, it's been a long time), and when that didn't work out, with the sports columnist from the Ithaca Times, Arthur somebody ... the name's right on the tip of my tongue). More than a thousand people petitioned WHCU to restore Roy Ives to the broadcasts. Playoff games weren't beholden to WHCU's in-season contracts, and the 1981 playoffs featured competing broadcasts between Moore's WHCU team and Ives on WTKO.

Moore continued to broadcast on WHCU through 1984, with first Howie Borkan and then Kurt Smutko as color commentators. Moore left after the 1984 season for Wisconsin, and eventually the Florida Panthers of the NHL and WFAN in New York). Jim Lester succeeded him, with John Heron and Jim Connors (not the tennis legend) as color men. Ives came back for several years, with Pete Tufford at his side. Grady Whittenburg succeeded Roy, initially with Pete on color, but it was during Grady's tenure that WHCU (which had been taken over by Eagle Broadcasting, along with WTKO) started moving toward a single broadcaster, especially for games outside of Lynah Rink. Grady left for the Binghamton Senators in 2002. Adam Wodon broadcast for two seasons through 2004, and Jason Weinstein succeded him.

[Disclaimer: These are my best recollections as to what happened. I may be off by a year or so about when transitions happened, but I believe that the names, the roles, and the stations are substantially accurate. I welcome corrections to the details. And, obviously, I'm the "Arthur" who worked with Chris Moore, and I also did several games with Grady over the years; you can decide how good a job I did.]

Hockey PBP:Woodside's last hockey season was '68-69, though I think he did football longer. Jay Levine's only season was the glorious '69-'70 year. I can still hear him in my mind saying "Lodboa shoots, he scores." Jay was pretty good, although I didn't hear him often as I think I was at 22 or 23 of the 29 games.
I recall an Andy Andrews doing games in '70-'71 and maybe '71-72, perhaps with Roy Ives.
Woodside was way past his prime when Arthur and I attended school. The call I remember most was the '69 NCAA semi-final where Sam said (perhaps not exactly but pretty close) "Gordie Lowe in the Cornell end, and a goal" and we all turned to each other with a "who scored" question and about 10-15 seconds later Sam explained that Lowe scored and Cornell had won.
Jay Levine and his wife Mary Ann Childers have been TV news anchors and reporters in Chicago for the past 25 years or so.

58-71 Sam Woodside
71-72 Jay Levine
72-80 Roy Ives
80-84 Chris Moore
84-85 Jim Lester
85-89 Roy Ives
89-02 Grady Whittenburg
02-04 Adam Wodon
04-25 Jason Weinstein

Arthur did a great job in the games I heard him do.  He projected slightly less irascibility than what we know and love him for.

Jay Levine's only year was the '69-'70 championship season.  The following is from a post I made in 2006 on this subject:

Quote from: jkahnWoodside's last hockey season was '68-69, though I think he did football longer. Jay Levine's only season was the glorious '69-'70 year. I can still hear him in my mind saying "Lodboa shoots, he scores." Jay was pretty good, although I didn't hear him often as I think I was at 22 or 23 of the 29 games.
I recall an Andy Andrews doing games in '70-'71 and maybe '71-72, perhaps with Roy Ives.
Woodside was way past his prime when Arthur and I attended school. The call I remember most was the '69 NCAA semi-final where Sam said (perhaps not exactly but pretty close) "Gordie Lowe in the Cornell end, and a goal" and we all turned to each other with a "who scored" question and about 10-15 seconds later Sam explained that Lowe scored and Cornell had won.
Jay Levine and his wife Mary Ann Childers have been TV news anchors and reporters in Chicago for the past 25 years or so.

Interesting tribute to Ken Dryden from a Penn State perspective:

statecollege.com/articles/columns/rip-ken-dryden-penn-state-hockey-thanks-you/

Chris Abbott '06 was hired at the beginning of this season by the Carolina Hurricanes as their VP-Pro Player Development.  Twin brother Cam was also hired to coach Carolina's AHL affiliate, the Chicago Wolves.  Also, in June of last year, the Hurricanes promoted Eric Tulsky, a Harvard grad and Berkeley PhD, to GM.  Tulsky was hired about 10 years ago by the Canes (and by then GM Ron Francis) to be the analytics guru for the team.  Bringing in the Abbotts were two of his first moves as GM.  On the other side of that Stanley Cup semi-final, Braden Birch '13 is VP of Hockey Operations & Salary Cap Management for the Florida Panthers. Furthering the Cornell connections, Ron Francis' daughter went to Cornell at the same time as Riley Nash, and Francis, who attend a bunch of games at Lynah when his daughter was there, made a trade to acquire Nash's draft rights from Edmonton.  Also, Francis, who just got let go as GM of the Seattle Kraken, was the one who brought Jessica Campbell '14 into the Kraken organization.

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Quote from: chimpfoodUnfortunately Barron has fallen to the bottom of the jets lineup after getting a good amount of playing time earlier in the playoffs. Probably due to him being -7 in the last 6 games.

Not to mention Dallas kicking the shit out of Winnipeg in the past few games.  Not exactly productive to use your 4th line when you're two goals behind.

The biggest reason for Barron's decreased time is Mark Scheifele's return to the lineup in Game 4 after having been out with an injury which occurred in Game 5 vs. St. Louis.  In Game 7 vs. St. louis, Barron took almost all of the d-zone faceoffs in the two overtimes with Adam Lowry (brother of alum Joel Lowry) taking most of the o-zone faceoffs.

I received info today from a friend who is a class officer, that the class officers were told today that Red Hot Hockey vs. BU has been finalized for Nov. 29.

Quote from: sah67Malinski draws in for Game 3, "slightly" overshadowed by Landeskog's return.

and Malinski with an assist on the 1st goal of the game, a 4-on-4 goal by Nichushkin

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Quote from: BearLoverWhat the fuck? Is he flunking out of school or something? Does he hate Casey? This is impossible to explain. This team is winning absolutely nothing next season now. 10 players graduate, and then two of the remaining best three players on the team leave (at minimum). Put a fork in them.

it's not impossible to explain any more than it's impossible to explain "NIL" - i think it is much more likely that he is leaving for someplace that will give him a scholarship+$ than that he is dissatisfied with the coach or the program or the ILR curriculum. i suspect he was under-recruited and over-performed expectations.

this feeds into a different one of your fears but i think this is the more founded one: we are going to have a hard time competing in a more professionalized environment. We already have one hand tied behind our back on scholarships, ameliorated a little by the prestige of the degree (though that is crumbling in the market as well); this is definitely going to be a long-term drag on Ivy competitiveness.

There's almost no NIL money in college hockey at the moment.

But yes, the program will no longer be competitive nationally if NIL becomes a thing.

I'm pretty sure NIL is a bigger thing than you realize.  I have a friend who has two baseball-playing sons and is familiar with BIG Ten baseball and NIL - and there's decent (100K ish) money out there for better players.  Also, many high school baseball draft choices that used to turn pro are now going to college so they can make more money than in the low minor leagues.  I suspect if it's true for baseball. it's true for hockey.

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Quote from: upprdeckI didnt really take notes. I could see it live and knew of it happening.

Even Shane was still off it looked.

By overtime it just looked like we were completely gassed and had nothing left in the tank. I was standing there (as I was on the run) watching on my phone like "is Psenicka usually this slow?" A distinct feeling of the magic, so to speak, running dry.

I thought BU looked gassed too, though.  I was shocked when I read about the illness.  I never would have guessed.

Does anyone have the Time On Ice for our players?  By the 3rd period it seemed to me like we were double shifting Bancroft-Walsh-Mack and there were a lot of players that I didn't seem to be seeing as much as usual (perhaps Penney, Kempf, O'Leary -even though he scored, others?)

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Quote from: upprdeckRegional attendance is a hard nut to crack.

Pointing out a small crowd for Albany is wrong


Albany attendance last time was about 2500/3500
Wooster was 6000/2800
Colorado was 2000/5000
allentown was 2000/3000

PSU in Allentown and winning Attendance 7K this year

Teams/locations/ and playing the fri/sat games all help attendance.

So 2500 when Cornell was playing in Albany is good?

cornell was not in Albany in 2022
In 2016 when it was there they had 5500/7500 for the first 2 games with Yale and RIT playing. the biggest crowd of the 4 regions.

Ok. I was there in 2010 with UNH Denver and rit.  Empty.

I was there too, and surprised by the small Cornell contingent.  We had a much smaller block of fans than we did in Minny in '05 or Green Bay in '06.  Perhaps a few relatively down years from '07 to '09 contributed to that.  I don't recall whether it was Spring Break for the students.  The BBall game vs. Ky at Syracuse was the night before the Albany regional.

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Quote from: TrotskyFFS what about the interference on BU?!

Sure looked like the BU guy was holding Bancroft's stick. Absurd.

That's what I saw, too.

Definitely the guy put his arm around Bancroft's stick.

I have a 2003 FF shirt I am also keeping.  I was wearing it in NYC this summer and it was spotted by a 30-year old guy who asked about it.  I said it was the last time my team made the Frozen Four.  Surprisingly he responded that Cornell was close last year and had a great team in 2020 when the tournament was canceled.  it turned out that he used to cover the Harvard hockey team for the Harvard Crimson (or whatever their newspaper is called) when he was a student there.  So Harvard actually has one fan who knows something about college hockey.

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Quote from: VIEWfromKMalott getting the call to LA!

And their next game is tomorrow against Colorado, so there's the potential for Malinski, MacDonald and Malott to all be playing! (And boy I just realized it would have been a nightmare for Grady/Jason if Malott, Malone and Malinski all overlapped.)

Malone, Malinski and Malott were all on the 2019-20 team.

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Quote from: TrotskyMuch as in 1980, when 8th seed Cornell beat the #1, #2, and #3 to win it all.

Thank you, Schafer.  This championship and season is dedicated to you.

Man, back when the Boston schools were in the ECAC. That's how you know it's a throwback.

I was at all 3 of those 1980 games, and I think I enjoyed this year's games every bit as much, even though they were witnessed via computer.  I'm still smiling right now and wearing a 2012 regional tee shirt, where we did knock of #2 Michigan in the first round.  The pep band that year played the Michigan State fight song to rattle Michigan. I expect our band will be playing The Victors during our the MSU game, although that'll probably tick off the OSU crowd who we will want rooting for us if they stay around.
And thanks stereax for being our on the scene reporter at Lynah this year.  You posts definitely added to the elynah experience this year.

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Quote from: ugarteMSU has higher PPG and lower GA than us despite playing a WCHA schedule. But it's 60 minutes and the gap is much smaller than HC-Minnesota.

FWIW, MSU's non-conference opponents other than BC had a winning percentage of about 0.300.  Our non-conference opponents had a winning percentage of just under 0.600.

And they had a lot of games in the B1G where they gave up 3 or more goals and lost.  As I said, we don't want to get into a run and gun with them, but they are beatable.

MSU is 11th in PP%. Q is first. MSU is 18th in PK%. Q is third. MSU is fourth in GA/G. Q is fifth. MSU is seventh in G/G. Q is sixth.

If (a big if) those numbers translated well from conference to conference, we should be competitive with the Spartans. I'm more concerned about playing against a style of hockey we're not used to. I still have bad flashbacks from '91 when we got WCHA linesmen that kept calling intentional offsides on us. We just weren't used to that style.

Quinnipiac is a known quantity. We haven't played a Big Ten team since the Spartan games in Nov 2019.

Of course the reverse can be said of MSU. And we did sweep them in 2019...

We did also beat Ohio State later that season in the first round of the Vegas tournament.   I was fortunate enough to be at both the MSU games and in Vegas.  Of course that turned out to be a #1 ranked Big Red team.

Ed Olczyk spent some time in the 3rd period last night discussing how impressed he was with Sam Malinski's game, offensively on the rush and making passes and on defense.