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I voted "no".  Without reading the article because I don't care.  And neither does anyone else, really.

PLAY BALL (or PUCK or BIRDIE or WHATEVER)!!!

Quote from: ajh258Posted by my friend on Facebook. This article offers additional insight into the recruiting process.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/sports/before-athletic-recruiting-in-the-ivy-league-some-math.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

QuoteIt is a league device established to ensure transparency, but many Ivy League coaches are instructed never to discuss it publicly, which adds to the sense of mystery.

..to ensure the appearance of transparency, which is usually enough..

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/23/sports/financial-aid-changes-game-as-sports-teams-in-ivies-rise.html?hpw

"This renaissance in a league known as the Ancient Eight can be traced to something that has nothing to do with sports: new policies that have substantially enhanced financial aid for all admitted students, making it easier to recruit elite athletes.."

It goes on, saying many althletes from middle class families had until recently rarely considered Ivy colleges, leaving only poor kids or rich ones to staff the teams.

An unusual example of the rising tide lifts all boats phenomenon.

Who cares?  Play ball!!

PBS had a good show about the NCAA last night. Its premise was that the NCAA's purpose is to channel the revenues generated by college sports from college atheletes to the administrators of college athletic programs and to  coaches.  This is so obvious it's hard to believe they felt a show was needed to expound upon it.  

Not only can players not be paid while they are performing, they are required to sign over to the NCAA all their rights to the use of their images and recordings of their performances in perpetutity.  They are excluded from all the revenue generated by ESPN Classic rebroadcasts, use of their images in games, etc.  All of it goes to the NCAA and to the athletic departments of its members.

In exchange for this they are given free tuition, board, books and whatever, most of which their own lack of preparation and the demands of their athletic endeavors prevent them from exploiting anyway.  And, just to be sure they don't sacrifice their athletic preparation to their academic, their scholarships, by NCAA rule, are limited to 1 year.  i.e., an athletic scholarship is subject to annual renewal.

As much as intercollegiate athletics exploits the atheletes, it corrupts the wider student body even more.  The experiences of students as fans of winning atheltic teams are so intense and passionate that they in too many cases overwhelm the academic ones.  

I've worked with Notre Dame alumni, a great university.  Their primary relation to the school is through its football team.  They learned their profession there, but emotionally, their formative experience was directed by Touchdown Jesus, as opposed to just Jesus.  I'd venture that many of the Lynah Faithful share a experience similar to theirs, myself included.

At the SEC, Big 10 schools it's even worse.  As are the perversions those universites must endure to keep their fans happy and their contributions flowing.

I'd probably feel differently if the hockey team were better, but maybe it's time for CU to go the way of UC, The University of Chicago.  Intercollegiate competition is an escalating arms race.  What made Cornell successful 40 years ago or even 10 will not do anymore.  If we hope to compete with Notre Dame, Michigan, BC, great universities that offer atheletic scholarships,  we must up our ante then see them when they raise. And that's not even counting the lesser academic lights who are even less constrained.

Albany, NY.  TWC channels 663 and 1878(?) HD, Yale/Colgate is on right now and us at 7:30.

Both teams staggered into Saturday night and for the first 2 periods staggered thru it. Cornell at times seemed to think the puck was a curling stone.  Swipe near it but don't touch.  Defensemen engaged in a hockey version of she loves me, she loves me not.  Should I cover this man, should I cover that man?  Then both, but especially CU, got their mojo back for the 3rd.

Appert is a very emotional coach.  Schafer is steady, unperturbable.  Each team was reflecting its coach. RPI couldn't quite overcome the the depression of Friday night, while CU was readier to confront the task at hand.

Union was just too much for us. They have to be one of the top 5 in the country. Forget about that loss.  RPI isn't a top 10 even but is still a very good team.  After the 2nd we outplayed them at their place. With the tie at Dartmouth and comback win against SLU, CU is proving to people and more importantly to itself that reports of its demise were premature.

The Union game is on TWC, channels 3 and 585 at 7 PM.

http://www.centredaily.com/2010/09/17/2215021/psu-to-add-ice-hockey.html

What about CU quitting Ivy hockey/ECAC?  Try to form an NY/PA league equivalent to Hockey East.  Plenty of good schools comparable to us in many ways.

Or just bag it and go Div III.

http://www.rpiathletics.com/news/2010/8/24/MHOCK_0824102406.aspx

Ow!

Brisson is supposed to be a very good puck handler, which is what the D desperately needed against UNH. I don't see a lot of O in those four lines so the freshmen better be able to produce some.  Either that or Iles better be as good as advertised, and right away.

Umile says UNH has a young team.  They have a poor out of conference record because they've played some very tough teams, among which he did not mention Cornell.  And most of those games were early when the team's youth really showed.

Schaefer says UNH is strong in transition while CU is strong inside the blue lines. Should be an game of contrasts.  If Scrivens stays in the trance he's been in the last few games, that will be the difference.

Albany TWC is showing Union/Quinipiac. That leaves NHL Network as the only local hope.

Michigan, Minnesota, BU, even BC are relatively mediocre this year.  In basketball, so are North Carolina, Memphis State and many others.  What of it?  That this year's team only finished second doesn't detract in the least from Cornell's enduring success under Coach Shaefer.  CU fans have high standards for sure.  For some they border on unreasonable.

Personally, I find it amazing that CU can turn out superior teams year in and year out.  CU limits its applicant pool thru academic selectivity and financial restraints.  And for all the protests to the contrary, CU is not Harvard, Yale or Princeton academically or reputaionally.  

Yale, Dartmouth, St. Lawrence all have had their moments.  But CU is always in a position to make the frozen 4, to win the ECAC and the Ivy League.  That we don't every single year doesn't indicate relative or any other form of mediocrity.

I remember the 1970 team.  I saw every home game, their wins in the ECAC tournament when Hughes had a last minute goal waved off only to score the winner seconds later.  And at Lake Placid where they held Michigan Tech shotless in the last period of the semi and Danny Lodboa got a true hat trick to beat Clarkson for the title.  (Maybe my memory isn't perfect, but that's how I recall it.) And there have been great memories since, if none so bright.  Lance Nethery, Brock Tredway, all the great goalies, the OT loss to Wisonsin, and on and on.  Not at all a bad tradition or one that looks to end anytime soon.

Unfortunately, other programs aren't going to sit still and let Cornell have undefeated teams year after year. Sometimes the other guy wins. We learned that in 1971 with BU's first crop of scholarship atheletes.  After that it took a long time for CU to get its legs again.  But now that it has, talk of relative mediocrity seems as dated as the disco era to which it applied.

Quote from: TimV

Quote from: cu722001Don't we have a couple of games before Albany?  This sounds uncomfortably like the chatter on the NY Giants board before they played the Saints.  "What happens (not if we beat them, or lose to them) if we beat them real bad?"  Counting chickens is the main cause of eggs not hatching.

Nothing in my post says Cornell will be playing in Albany. ::smashfreak::  

The part about the adult beverages similarly doesn't exclude arena beer.  But go ahead and try and bring in some tequila of your own.  Please be sure to leave a post on JSID about how that worked out for you.**]

No guns or hardstuff in MSG either, for those who aren't interested.  Cowboys Stadium I'm not too sure about.