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Quote from: stereax on April 09, 2026, 12:29:07 AMMcNally for CHN about the goalies in the Frozen Four.

Also, Cornell mention <3

When did Jane go pro?  I love CHN, so I am glad she wasn't picked up by USCHO. 

Do folks think she will return for her degree when her pen runs dry?  I am not sre you need that in this AI era. 

How do we think this will affect the competitiveness of Cornell's school of journalism, especially against instate rivals like Syracse?

Quote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 11:20:50 PM

Quote from: Old Red on March 26, 2026, 11:19:17 PM

Quote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only. Will there still be as many TV timeouts per period as if the game were televised? I could see that benefiting either team. Denver will look to play their top 2 defensemen as much as possible, while Cornell will look to start almost every shift following a play stoppage (and certainly every shift that begins in the defensive zone) with the Walsh or Castagna lines.

Based on the UConn v. Q game this afternoon, no.  They had the usual breaks at about 1/2 way through the 1st and 2nd periods.  I believe there were two breaks in the third.

Thanks for the info. Guess we'll have to play the fourth line then.

I am all for the 4th line.  Didn't they score first against Denver 4 years ago?  (And I corrected myself, it's Providence not UConn.  The fryers.)

Quote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only. Will there still be as many TV timeouts per period as if the game were televised? I could see that benefiting either team. Denver will look to play their top 2 defensemen as much as possible, while Cornell will look to start almost every shift following a play stoppage (and certainly every shift that begins in the defensive zone) with the Walsh or Castagna lines.

Based on the Providence v. Q game this afternoon, no.  They had the usual breaks at about 1/2 way through the 1st and 2nd periods.  I believe there were two breaks in the third.

Quote from: BearLover on March 25, 2026, 01:18:50 AM

Quote from: marty on March 24, 2026, 08:25:18 PM

Quote from: Al DeFlorio on March 24, 2026, 05:33:02 PMA real kick in the teeth: March 16, 1973, The Gahden, Wisconsin 6, Cornell 5, OT

https://www.nytimes.com/1973/03/17/archives/cornell-loses-65-in-hockey-tourney.html

Don't feed me this uninformed bullshit about Pelletier.

The most deflating and discouraging game I've ever attended. I don't think I could possibly imagine how horrible it was without having been there. 

You think that's bad? Imagine being in the room when Pelletier decommitted.

What the article doesn't say is that Cornell had a two on zip break in overtime and the shooter (cannot remember his name) hit that backboards.  He never played for Bertrand again..

Quote from: adamw on March 20, 2026, 01:01:07 PM

Quote from: BearLover on March 20, 2026, 12:54:40 PM

Quote from: adamw on March 20, 2026, 12:47:49 PMWhat do you all think happens with the "Jack Parker Fund" at BU's NIL Collective?

They raise money for knitting classes.

https://www.scarlettcommonwealth.org/general-9

This whole thread is hilarious to anyone out there.

I would imagine it is very similar to other NIL collectives in that it raises money to make NIL payments to players. Could be anywhere from $0 to $1bn. But the collective's existence on its own means very little. I would further imagine that a donor who chooses to give to this collective would have donated to BU hockey regardless, so in effect the money is simply being shifted from other uses within the hockey team, whether coaches' salaries, nutrition, facilities, travel, etc.

that may or may not be true - but how is that relevant? All schools are in the process of creatively figuring out ways to raise more money. Shifting, begging donors to do more, turning over every rock. Whatever. This is happening across every sport, every school, everywhere.  There's a new story every day about how some donor stepped up and gave X,Y,Z to this program or that.  Lake Superior State - of all places - announced that someone was donating $1 million to its hockey program. Next thing you know - they stole a recruit from an ECAC school by offering $50,000 to switch commitments.

whether this is harmful, helpful, no big deal, or whatever - that's an opinion. All I'm telling you is - it's happening.

If some of the Ivy League schools and non-Ivy ECAC schools would opt-in - or be allowed to opt-in ... any one of their many billionaire alums could dump $100 million into their pot - and use it to pay players. At the moment - not allowed. But this is happening all over.

And it's all relative. I mean, St. John's basketball suddenly got good again because a major billionaire decided to dump wads of cash in. About $4 to $5 million per year.  That kind of level of cash wasn't being donated to the St. John's basketball program before.  But this guy wanted to help buy players.  He wasn't donating to buy sneakers before.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/03/14/inside-the-billionaire-nil-donor-behind-st-johns-basketball-success/

So - this is - and will - continue to happen, at various levels everywhere. Including college hockey.

BearLover, Adam has a very strong point.  Seems to me there is only one approach that will work:  put up or shut up!  Donate $1 millions to the Cornell Hockey team or we will all suffer the consequences of lost national titles.

Quote from: Trotsky on March 17, 2026, 07:07:33 PMNo true PhD ever insists on being referred to as "Doctor."  It's tacky.  That's an affection for the people whose companies buy them mail order degrees from the Kennedy School of Public Administration.

I think it's a German thing, to be called "Herr Doktor Professor."  But we don't do that in America or the ice hockey rink.

Quote from: Swampy

Quote from: Chris '03

Quote from: BearLoverThere's a strange fixation on this forum about Q's questionable academic standards when in reality almost every school in the country, including almost every D-1 hockey school and some in our own conference, has a similar lack of standards, especially for those on the hockey team.

I think it is born, at least in part, from the ECAC's traditional positioning as a conference of schools that take academics seriously. Adding Q rather than RIT or Holy Cross undermined that positioning.*

That's at least in part because Q is so insufferable in it's marketing of itself. If the university positioned itself more as a serious school and not as a boarding school for wealthy kids to drink in new haven (or was quieter generally), it'd probably be less of an issue too.  My experience in fairfield county is that it's not taken super seriously and is wildly too expensive.  They run billboards bragging that they were included in USNWR rankings. Not where they rank just that the magazine includes them. It's be great if they improved their academic profile but for a lot of folks they'll always be seen as the diploma mill Trotsky sees.

*- yes I know it wasn't strictly a choice of those three at the time to replace UVM. But the perception at the time was that RIT and HC would be better cultural fits for the conference than Q.

From Chatgpt:

ECACHL Schools:

Ivies:

| School               | Approximate Recent Acceptance Rate                     |
| -------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------ |
| **Brown University** | \\~5.6% for Class of 2029 ([The Brown Daily Herald][1]) |
| Yale University      | \\~3.7% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])        |
| Harvard University   | \\~3.6% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])        |
| Columbia University  | \\~3.85% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])       |
| Princeton University | \\~4.62% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])       |
| Dartmouth College    | \\~5.3% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])        |
| Cornell University   | \\~8.41% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])       |

[1]: https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2025/03/brown-admits-565-of-applicants-to-class-of-2029?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Brown admits 5.65% of applicants to class of 2029 - The Brown Daily Herald"
[2]: https://www.crimsoneducation.org/ge/blog/ivy-league-acceptance-rates/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Ivy League Acceptance Rates For The Class of 2028 - Crimson Education GE"

Non-Ivies:
| School                                 | Approximate Acceptance Rate           |
| -------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------- |
| Clarkson University                    | \\~77% ([U.S. News & World Report][1]) |
| Colgate University                     | \\~12% ([U.S. News & World Report][2]) |
| Quinnipiac University                  | \\~77% ([U.S. News & World Report][3]) |
| Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) | \\~58% ([Niche][4])                    |
| St. Lawrence University                | \\~58% ([U.S. News & World Report][5]) |
| Union College (NY)                     | \\~44% ([U.S. News & World Report][6]) |

[1]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/clarkson-university-2699?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Clarkson University - Profile, Rankings and Data | US News Best Colleges"
[2]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/colgate-university-2701?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Colgate University - Profile, Rankings and Data | US News Best Colleges"
[3]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/quinnipiac-university-1402/applying?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Quinnipiac University Admissions - US News Best Colleges"
[4]: https://www.niche.com/colleges/rensselaer-polytechnic-institute/admissions/facts/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Admissions & Acceptance - Niche"
[5]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/st-lawrence-university-2829?utm_source=chatgpt.com "St. Lawrence University - Profile, Rankings and Data | US News Best Colleges"
[6]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/union-college-new-york-2889?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Union College (NY) - Profile, Rankings and Data | US News Best Colleges"


Notes:
1. Sorry for the formatting. I'm still working my way into the 21st Century.
2. I realize admission rates are not a very good measure of academic quality. And there may be considerable self-selection. E.g., Clarkson's emphasis on technology may screen applicants without considerable STEM backgroun in high school.

Yikes! Is admitting less than ten percent of your applicants something to be proud of?  Something that makes these schools better than others?  Or is it just bad marketing that wastes the time and resources of the AI admissions bots?

I think it would be better to target the proper audience and admit somewhere between 30% and 60% of their applicants.  We are clearly wasting the time and maybe even the hopes of 75% of our applicants.

A better measure of school quality for me would be the number of accepted students who decide to attend.  That reflects on the safety school considerations.

All I want from AI is the answer posited in Asimov's "The Last Question"

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: ugarteall that and a rare undefeated season

You knew somebody would say it, didn't you?

Reading his obituary I realized that I have no memory of Ken Dryden's face, replaced by his 1970s white goalie mask.

To me his only real loss, and the world's as well, was in the 2006 Liberal Party leadership convention, which would have placed him in line to be PM.  

His priorities reflect his values, I hope acquired or enforced in his time at Cornell:

Quote from: Ken Dryden"Learning is at the core of our future—for a person, a society, an economy, a country," Dryden said. "Learning is our only real security, our only real opportunity, and this program, years in the hoping, was the first big step towards truly lifelong learning."

In my heart I know I shouldn't post this for the reccord:  in 1967 Ken Dryden did not lose a game, although he tied BU in the Boston Arena Christmas tournament.  

Unfortunataly Dave Quarrie played a game against Yale, which he lost:

QuoteWith BU and Cornell now tied atop the ECAC standing with no more games between the two neither could afford to slip much if they wanted to win the ECAC championship. The Big Red headed home for their next game against Yale and welcomed back David Quarrie in net for his first game since being injured. Though his ankle had not been badly hurt it was the otherworldly play of Dryden that kept Quarrie out of the net. In Quarrie's return to action he didn't play poorly but he wasn't able to overcome his team's defensive lapses, bad penalties and inability to score when they had their opportunities. Even worse was a second period goal that was waved off by the referee that could have given Cornell the game. It was, however, two power play goals by Yale in the third period put the Bulldogs ahead but with less than five minutes remaining Sophomore Ted Coviello tied the game at 3–3. Despite outshooting Yale 112 to 49 in the contest Cornell was unable to earn a fourth goal and it was Yale's Jack Morrison who scored the game winner at 6:09 of extra time.[10]

In 1970 Cornell backstopped by Brian Cropper went 29-0.

Can AI do this job?  Can AI interview the coaches and the players?  Can AI understand team dynamics?  Can AI understand the thrill of a man down goal with less than two minutes left?  a game winning goal with 10 seconds left?

Can AI drive a car in the snow? in the snow at night?
 

Does AI have enough self-understanding that it can even ask those questions about AI?

Written by Microsoft CoPilot.

-sorry for this "extra" post, but it kept telling me I was refused because I sound like a bot (if only I had that level of even artificial intelligence).  And then it wouldn't let me delete this.

Quote from: upprdeckCornell could host now if they put in a bid.  But that requires prep and money and they dont find it worth the effort.  

I do agree if would cool to see best of 3 regionals though

It would be wonderful for Cornell to host a regional.  We could do it in the Syracuse War Memorial (home of our 1967 championship).  We could start by working to bring back the Syracuse Invitational home of many Harkness and Bertrand era legends and memories.  (In that '73 game against Colorado College I remember we were being crushed until someone speared Dave Elenbaas and we came roaring back on the five minute major.)

I believe in the regionals.  They bring fans from four schools together.  They centralize coverage, which brings in a better more polished broadcast team.  And they prepare teams for the bright lights of the tournament championship.  I believe the biggest impediment to women's hockey today is they play their full tournament on campus.

Quote from: George64

Quote from: SwampyThree questions:
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• Did Halsted play both hockey and basketball?
  
• Is there any way to adjust for years when frosh played on the frosh team?
• How the fuck did this omit Ken Dryden?

See my conversation with ChatGPT from earlier this year - Why I'll never get in a self-driving car!
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...and Brian L. Cornell contributed to no NCAA championships, he was injured in 1967 missing the NCAAs; by 1970 he had graduated
...and Cornell won only two NCAA championships in ice hockey, years apart
...and there are no other cars on this highway.

Didn't we lose the coach, or at least acquire a new one?  Wouldn't that have some impact on the rankings?  Or is it all talent?

In case anyone wonders where, Ben Russell went to Northern Michigan:  https://nmuwildcats.com/news/2024/7/26/ben-russell-named-assistant-hockey-coach.aspx

I have to wonder what all this turnover means to the team next season.  That is a lot of transition in one season.  How will this change the organization of the defense?  We've lost two leadership coaches there.  \\

What specialties does this new coach bring to the team?  Is he here to teach or learn?