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Oh, and the pre-season poll is out.

Cornell is #13. 

Of our opponents
Quinnipiac is 7
Dartmouth 11
BU 16
Sacred Heart, Clarkson, Maine, Princeton, Harvard and Brown received votes (in that order).

Omaha got no acknowledgement.

In all my ignorance, based on recent growth and last year's teams, I am surprised that Maine and Princeton are not ranked and that Brown got one vote.

Quote from: BearLover on September 21, 2026, 04:21:32 PM

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Quote from: Trotsky on September 20, 2026, 03:28:34 PMYou also have to realize there are probably at least ten people on eLF who know more about the day to day operation of the team and the program than any current undergrad, for reasons which are well beyond any Sun reporter to control.

I agree we should be kind.  Jane was head and shoulders above any prior student reporter in my years of fandom, including a few who were highly honored.  She isn't the standard, she's a miracle we were fortunate to experience.  Her combination of precision and thoroughness in reporting facts and more importantly her utter disdain for the mawkish, tired overwrought emotional bullshit that typically infests sports reporting, is a one-off.  I have never seen it ever before -- even among the greatest sports reporters of all time.  She's simply a wonder.

Honestly I doubt that will survive in her professional career.  You cannot thrive in a commercial space without giving the boobs what they want.  There's just too many of them with too many dollars for your editor to ignore.  And I'm sure her successors at the Sun will return to that tawdriness as well, as it is always guaranteed to get applause.  It is the false hustle of journalism, and it plays, even at an institution where the inmates should know better.

From all this glazing of Jane, you'd think she's Charlotte Brontë...

Seriously, what is going on here? Jane was great, but she was a student reporter covering a hockey team. She didn't do anything groundbreaking our special. She asked good questions. She wrote solid descriptions of the games. I'm happy she now has a full-time adult job in sports journalism, but I have no idea what the crazy hype on this forum is all about. Several Sun reporters in past years were just as good. Raphy Gendler and a few others in the 2017-2020 era come to mind. (And that's just during the time I've been closely following this stuff--I'm sure there are others too.)

To be clear, Jane was very good, as have been some other Sun hockey writers in recent years. But this level of glazing is out of control.

If you disagree, and think she's the second coming of Grantland Rice, I'd love for you to post a few of her articles you think are particularly great. 

I'll say one thing that I did think Jane did uniquely well, which was (probably because she's an athlete herself) try to drill down into the intricacies of hockey strategy. For example, the faceoff article about Walsh and Castagna's dominance at the dot. That type of article was actually really cool. But come on, her typical game recaps and weekly pieces were solid, but at approximately the same (quite high!) level of some past Cornell hockey writers.

ha - Jane is great. Trotsky's journalism pontificating is always weird. I assume he is a Christopher Hitchens fan. She, however, does not have a full-time journalism job - yet - FWIW. But will be writing for CHN still.

Not surprising that you and BL have different tastes in writing style - nor that he didn't enjoy Jane as much as the rest of us.

While it seems I didn't enjoy her as much as the person who referred to her (a college student) as a "miracle," "head and shoulders above prior reporters who were highly honored," "a wonder," and something "[he] had never seen before...even among the greatest sports writers of all time," that does not mean I didn't find her fantastic. Jane was great and I am happy she will continue to cover college hockey.
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What distinguishes Jane and Adam (if I may be that familiar) is they are reporters.  They report stories: they document, shed insightful light on, and analyze Cornell hockey in particular and college hockey in general.  They go to the source, they interview, they observe and listen and then publish a clear, factual, in-depth story.  They do not opine and clearly mark speculation and rumor.  They appeal to fans but do not color their reporting as fans.

This is so rare in news media today where the writers constantly try to tailor the story to make a point and spotlight their personalities.  In a world filled with screamers they give calm, firmly spoken answers.

Quote from: stereax on September 17, 2026, 06:39:19 PMMayich family talking about Matthew.

In related news, I will be curling up into a ball and wailing.

I am not surprised by this, but I do find it shocking.

I went to the Arizona State ice hockey page this evening and there is no mention of Matthew Mayich's injuries.  His picture is under the roster tab with information about his career and promise.  His "In the News" tab has one article mentioning him as one of three transfers to ASU.  Under the team news tab there is no mention of him or concerns for his future.

stereax you may have something there.  All that new and established talent and Cornell is picked 3rd in the ECAC with no candidates for pre-season All-ECAC team honors . . .
https://ecachockey.com/news/2026/9/14/mens-ice-hockey-quinnipiac-chosen-as-favourite-for-the-second-year-in-a-row-by-league-coaches.aspx

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Quote from: BearLover on August 11, 2026, 01:14:12 PMThe lower ranking assistant coaches bounce around constantly. It's not specific to this season nor to Cornell.

Yep, this exactly. And it's not like we lost an coach or staff member who's been with the team for years.

Also possible that they were looking into Kaiser already before Robinson accepted the offer.

I disagree.  The "lesser" coaches are the foundation of the program.  They develop the players and the better their quality, the better the team.  And obviously the better programs will attract better talent at all levels.

Cornell was expecting Robinson to stay because they posted this bio update in early summer, before he left.  It refers to him starting his second year.   https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/coaches/josh-robinson/11947

I sense that Cornell undervalues goalie coaches.  That may be why we lost Cournoyer to Wisconsin.

I wouldn't read anything into the web site getting updated. It doesn't mean he was expected to stay. The web site is updated as a matter of course. The SIDs have no insight into anything going on in hockey operations until it happens. And that's a not a criticism. That's true for every school.

It's kinda weird given Cornell's history with goalies to think that it's doing anything wrong in that department.

The Sun article emphasizes both the loss of Cournoyer and Keiser's skill in developing goalies as significant in his addition.  I assume the new Sun hockey beat team did not make that up, but got it from the coaches.

Quote from: chimpfood on September 08, 2026, 12:42:28 AMThis is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

Gemini has a different take on this...

Criminal negligence in sports heatstroke situations occurs when a coach, athletic trainer, or school official fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk of severe heat illness, and their gross deviation from the standard of care results in the injury or death of an athlete.
While most sports injuries are handled in civil court, cases involving heatstroke can cross into criminal prosecution—such as involuntary manslaughter or reckless endangerment—if the supervisor's actions or omissions are deemed shockingly reckless.

Key Factors That Elevate Heatstroke to Criminal Negligence Prosecutors look for a "gross deviation" from how a reasonable, qualified professional would act. In sports heatstroke cases, this typically involves:
Denying Basic Needs: Withholding water or breaks as a form of punishment or "toughness" training.Ignoring Obvious Medical Distress: Forcing an athlete to continue practicing after they show clear signs of heat illness (e.g., vomiting, confusion, staggering, or collapse).
Disregarding Extreme Weather Warnings: Mandating high-intensity, full-gear practices during extreme heat index alerts without modifying the schedule or intensity.
Lack of Required Emergency Preparation: Failing to have mandatory cooling equipment on-site (like cold-water immersion tubs) or delaying calling 911 when an athlete collapses.

Standard of Care: What "Reasonable" Coaches Must DoTo avoid negligence, sports programs must follow established safety protocols, such as those published by the National Athletic Trainers' Association (NATA) or state athletic associations:
WBGT Monitoring: Using a Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT) device to measure environmental heat stress and altering practice duration or gear accordingly.
Acclimatization Periods: Gradually introducing intensity and heavy protective gear over the first 7 to 14 days of a season.
"Cool First, Transport Second": Having a cold-water immersion tub on the sidelines. Because heatstroke damage depends on how long the core body temperature stays above 104°F, immediate immersion is the gold standard for survival.

Quote from: George64 on August 27, 2026, 10:05:58 PM

Quote from: stereax on August 23, 2026, 05:08:05 PMArizona State men's hockey player collapsed during outdoor exercise Thursday, remains hospitalized.

Matthew Mayich, a 21-year-old defenseman and St. Louis Blues prospect, is hospitalized after collapsing during an outdoor workout at Arizona State University's track facilities on August 20. He suffered a possible cardiac event and was treated for a heat-related illness. Mayich is currently in a coma, and his family has asked for privacy and prayers while he undergoes medical treatment.

The incident occurred during a workout session in extreme heat, with temperatures reaching 114 degrees in the area. Arizona State University is investigating the circumstances surrounding the workout, including whether it was sanctioned by the team. The university has offered support to Mayich and his family during this difficult time.

Mayich's hockey community, including the Ontario Hockey League and the St. Louis Blues, has rallied around him, offering thoughts, prayers, and support. A virtual prayer service was held for Mayich, and an Instagram account has been created to share updates and show support, with a yellow ribbon campaign symbolizing hope for his recovery.

Yesterday the PBS News Hour ran a story about the Phoenix Protocol, described below with AI assist.  This should be standard operating procedure at all outdoor summer training facilities in heat danger zoners.

All Phoenix emergency responders have ice machines on premise and carry bags of ice on responses.

The Phoenix Protocol

The Method: When a patient's core body temperature hits dangerous levels (around 104°F or higher), responders place them inside a specialized blue body bag and fill it with ice and water.

Why It Works: Water has a much higher thermal conductivity than air, meaning it cools the body down significantly faster than traditional methods like ice packs or air conditioning.

The Results: Medical professionals note that this technique can safely drop a patient's core temperature from 110°F down to 101°F or 100°F by the time they arrive at the emergency room, drastically lowering mortality rates. You can watch the full PBS NewsHour Video for more details.

Quote from: marty on August 12, 2026, 03:51:05 AMI'm very confused.  How many coaches,  assistant coaches, associate coaches and ersatz coaches are there on Cornell's staff? Are any of the current staff unpaid?

There are no unpaid positions in D1 hockey, the volunteer coach was eliminated, I believe in 2024.

The NCAA allows four countable coaches:  a head coach (Casey Jones) and three (3) assistant coaches for D1 schools. 

Cornell has three assistant coaches:
Associate Head Coach Sean Flanagan (11th year) -- leads in face offs
Assistant Coach Chris Brown (2nd year) -- leads defense and penalty kill
Assistant Coach Cam Clarke (2nd year) -- leads power play

In addition there is a Director of Hockey Operations, as discussed above.  Lately this role has been goalie coach and is responsible for video including video replay decisions and editing.  I also assume this person is responsible general administrative paper work.

Cornell also has an equipment manager, Sean Schmidt in his 15th year.  The atheltic trainer, Kaitlyn Petryszen, and strength and conditioning coach, Mike Missen, support several programs.  Ms. Petryszen serves the Mens and Womens Polo teams and the Golf team.  Mr. Missen serves softball, golf and equestrian.

Quote from: stereax on August 11, 2026, 09:06:15 PM

Quote from: BearLover on August 11, 2026, 01:14:12 PMThe lower ranking assistant coaches bounce around constantly. It's not specific to this season nor to Cornell.

Yep, this exactly. And it's not like we lost an coach or staff member who's been with the team for years.

Also possible that they were looking into Kaiser already before Robinson accepted the offer.

I disagree.  The "lesser" coaches are the foundation of the program.  They develop the players and the better their quality, the better the team.  And obviously the better programs will attract better talent at all levels.

Cornell was expecting Robinson to stay because they posted this bio update in early summer, before he left.  It refers to him starting his second year.   https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/coaches/josh-robinson/11947

And if you think the goaltending coach is not important consider this:
Dartmouth  -- Associate Head Coach Jason Tapp
Princeton -- Assistant Coach Shane Talarico (former Cornell Directory of Operations)
Michigan -- Assistant Coach Kevin Reiter

Dartmouth has been attracting great goalies. 

I sense that Cornell undervalues goalie coaches.  That may be why we lost Cournoyer to Wisconsin.

Quote from: ACM on August 10, 2026, 04:21:12 PMhttps://cornellbigred.com/news/2026/8/10/mens-ice-hockey-austin-keiser-hiring-release.aspx

Kaiser replaces Josh Robinson who left for Omaha:  https://omavs.com/news/2026/7/15/omaha-hockey-welcomes-josh-robinson-director-of-player-personnel-and-video.aspx

...see you in January.

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Quote from: Weder on July 30, 2026, 04:13:11 PMFinal piece of the puzzle (well, not counting exhibitions):
vs. Holy Cross on Dec. 8
https://goholycross.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/schedule/2026-27

A Tuesday game? In this economy?

Love a mid week game!

I hope it's during my finals period because otherwise I WILL skip class 😂

I've got one Mon-Tues at 6:00-7:30 pm this semester 😭

You're in the Law School, right?

3 Dec -- instruction ends
4-6 Dec -- reading period
7 Dec -- finals begin

For the rest of the University that is still classes, which end 15 December.  I think there is a rule against playing (any sport) during finals.

Great News! 

Over the Chirstmas [Winter] Break Coach Jones will be Assistant Coach for the U.S. Collegiate Selects in the Spangler Cup in Davos, Switzerland.  (Mike Sousa of UNH is Head Coach and Scott Sandelin of Minnesota Duluth is the other Assistant.)

That's a little tight for the early January Omaha game . . . but maybe promises adding UNH and UMD to the schedule.  I would love to see us play UMD in the Frozen Apple.

Quote from: stereax on August 01, 2026, 08:20:54 PMCornell picks up a goalie recruit - Hagan Bach, G.

From Niskayuna, close to Albany.

Apr 17, 2009. 17yo. 6'2" and 201lbs already.

As per EP spent last year in the OJHL with a .915 and 2.25. Prior to that did two years at Shattuck's.

Likely plays in the OHL with Barrie next year.

EP projects him to come in in 28-29.

Asking my CHL friend about him...
"Is he any good?"
"Maybe? He had a really good triple-A career. He played with Thomas Carbonneau..."

They'll keep an eye on him for me 🥰

Is this a hopeful sign?  Or the exception that proves that Cornell recruiting is in the tank, doomed by the eligibility limitations and revenue sharing?

Is it just his warm-up year before transferring to the B1G?

Quote from: The Rancor on July 22, 2026, 10:35:06 PM

Quote from: Old Red on July 22, 2026, 04:02:23 PMJustin Tavares, son of NLL legend John Tavares and cousin of NHL star John Tavares, is transferring from University of Denver to Cornell for Lacrosse.  Any hopes that he might also play for our hockey team? 

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=justin+tavarres&cvid=6e6ad6d01ed640eda7a208195a7ceb80&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMgYIAhAAGEAyBggDEAAYQDIGCAQQABhA0gEIMzExM2owajmoAgiwAgE&PC=U531&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3djustin%2btavarres%26cvid%3d6e6ad6d01ed640eda7a208195a7ceb80%26gs_lcrp%3dEgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMgYIAhAAGEAyBggDEAAYQDIGCAQQABhA0gEIMzExM2owajmoAgiwAgE%26FORM%3dANAB01%26PC%3dU531&mmscn=vwrc&mid=6F146CC2AB557D7A8C706F146CC2AB557D7A8C70&FORM=WRVORC&ntb=1&msockid=1aeffa66860711f191447b85964baa0d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7mQHtVYPVk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qotXbqY5vKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aeMA0Duawo

Does he play hockey too?


Edit: Looked up his Hockey DB/Elite Prospect page. He had good numbers at Deerfield. 5'10" 170- maybe a little undersized. Maybe he's a practice squad guy with some upside?

If you watched the recordings you would see that Number 9 was Captain at Deerfield and a bit of a sniper. 

He entered recruitment for ice hockey.

Ned Harkness would have taken him for both, but I am not sure in this day you can play two sports.

Justin Tavares, son of NLL legend John Tavares and cousin of NHL star John Tavares, is transferring from University of Denver to Cornell for Lacrosse.  Any hopes that he might also play for our hockey team? 

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=justin+tavarres&cvid=6e6ad6d01ed640eda7a208195a7ceb80&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMgYIAhAAGEAyBggDEAAYQDIGCAQQABhA0gEIMzExM2owajmoAgiwAgE&PC=U531&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3djustin%2btavarres%26cvid%3d6e6ad6d01ed640eda7a208195a7ceb80%26gs_lcrp%3dEgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMgYIAhAAGEAyBggDEAAYQDIGCAQQABhA0gEIMzExM2owajmoAgiwAgE%26FORM%3dANAB01%26PC%3dU531&mmscn=vwrc&mid=6F146CC2AB557D7A8C706F146CC2AB557D7A8C70&FORM=WRVORC&ntb=1&msockid=1aeffa66860711f191447b85964baa0d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7mQHtVYPVk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qotXbqY5vKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aeMA0Duawo