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Title: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Beeeej on October 03, 2006, 09:13:22 AM
It's October.

I'm just sayin'...
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Jerseygirl on October 05, 2006, 03:03:01 PM
Ahem.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=5questionsmurray&prov=st&type=lgns


[Q]We celebrate Christmas, obviously. Mommy and Daddy buy me gifts.[/Q]

awwww...like an adorable Swedish toddler. An adorable Swedish toddler who could kill you by smooshing you up against a wall, laughing in your ear as he did so.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: cbuckser on October 05, 2006, 04:40:56 PM
Moving back on ince-ice matters, Doug Murray will start the season in a coat and tie.  Marc-Eduoard Vlasic, a 19-year-old defenseman, has supplanted Doug in the top 6.  Unless Vlasic gets sent to the Q (the first year of his three-year entry level contract kicks in after his tenth game played), Doug will need injuries to break into the lineup.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: jtwcornell91 on October 05, 2006, 05:46:53 PM
Question #6: was he wearing snakeskin pants during the interview?
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 05, 2006, 06:24:51 PM
[quote cbuckser] Doug will need injuries to break into the lineup.[/quote]

Ehrhoff, ene of the Sharks top 6 defensemen, is questionable for tonight's game against the Blues.  Let's hope if Doug cracks the lineup tonight he makes the most of his opportunity.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: French Rage on October 05, 2006, 06:35:21 PM
[quote cbuckser]Moving back on ince-ice matters, Doug Murray will start the season in a coat and tie.  Marc-Eduoard Vlasic, a 19-year-old defenseman, has supplanted Doug in the top 6.  Unless Vlasic gets sent to the Q (the first year of his three-year entry level contract kicks in after his tenth game played), Doug will need injuries to break into the lineup.[/quote]

So will he go to the AHL or will they keep him with the Sharks as a fill-in?  (Not familiar with how many extras they can keep for when a starter goes down.)
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: cbuckser on October 05, 2006, 07:20:44 PM
Doug Murray cannot be sent to the AHL without having to clear waivers, so I think that his roster spot is safe.  An NHL team can have 23 men on its roster, not including players on the injured list.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: French Rage on October 05, 2006, 07:50:52 PM
[quote cbuckser]Doug Murray cannot be sent to the AHL without having to clear waivers, so I think that his roster spot is safe.  An NHL team can have 23 men on its roster, not including players on the injured list.[/quote]

So for all intents and purposes, he is with the Sharks, just not playing?
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: cbuckser on October 05, 2006, 08:09:53 PM
Yes, if Christian Ehrhoff can play tonight, Doug Murray would be a healthy scratch.  If Ehrhoff can't go, we'll find out if Doug is starting the season as the 7th or 8th defenseman.

It is hardly unusual for a teenaged player to make an NHL team out of training camp and get returned to juiors for seasoning, experience, etc. before he plays in his tenth NHL game.  I would not be surprised if Marc-Eduoard Vlasic is playing in the QJMHL before the end of October.  (Getting sent back to juniors is far better for a player's development than sitting on the pine.  Ask Manny Malhotra.)  Between that possibility and the reality that top-six defensemen will get hurt, I wouldn't rule out the possibilty that Doug Murray will play over forty games this season.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 05, 2006, 10:45:24 PM
[quote cbuckser]Yes, if Christian Ehrhoff can play tonight, Doug Murray would be a healthy scratch.  If Ehrhoff can't go, we'll find out if Doug is starting the season as the 7th or 8th defenseman.[/quote]

Ehrhoff in the lineup...too bad.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Josh '99 on October 06, 2006, 11:22:02 AM
Word I hear from people who watched the Sharks game is that Vlasic was solid but Josh Gorges looks like he's overmatched physically.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: French Rage on October 06, 2006, 01:41:19 PM
[quote jmh30]Word I hear from people who watched the Sharks game is that Vlasic was solid but Josh Gorges looks like he's overmatched physically.[/quote]

Given the two goals on them in the first 5 minutes, hopefully that helps Doug crack the lineup.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: RatushnyFan on October 06, 2006, 03:27:06 PM
Doug is in the doghouse. Hasn't played regularly since January.  Slight injury last year, sure, but he has been healed for a long time (mid/late March?).  Only thing that I don't get is why they gave him a 3 year one-way contract (not sure if this is fact or just the Internet rumor).  They must have thought he'd make more progress than he has so far.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: mgl11 on October 06, 2006, 03:59:43 PM
I read on hfboards that Doug's contract is two-way in year one and one-way in years two and three.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Roy 82 on October 06, 2006, 07:03:25 PM
What's a Nubian? uh, I mean a one-way contract?
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Chris 02 on October 06, 2006, 07:46:43 PM
He'll receive that amount of money whether he plays in the NHL or AHL. Players on one-way deals typically remain on the NHL level.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: French Rage on October 06, 2006, 09:29:33 PM
Joe gets goal #560; now tied with Guy Lafleur at #19 all-time.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 06, 2006, 10:27:42 PM
[quote French Rage]Joe gets goal #560; now tied with Guy Lafleur at #19 all-time.[/quote]
I think his second goal (plus one assist) tonight moves him past Lafleur.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: The Rancor on October 09, 2006, 10:02:37 PM
it looks like lenny got a new paintjob...

http://www.sarampage.com/
Title: McKee to the ECHL
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 11, 2006, 07:00:44 AM
http://theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/SPORTS/610110331/1006
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: The Rancor on October 11, 2006, 12:11:21 PM
stay in school, win championships, then go pro. wtf?!?! ::screwy::
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 12, 2006, 03:19:03 PM
Murray was sent down today.  There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL.  Won't last too long though.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Josh '99 on October 12, 2006, 03:26:09 PM
[quote calgARI '07]Murray was sent down today.  There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL.  Won't last too long though.[/quote]Halpern and...  Parros?
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 12, 2006, 03:29:04 PM
[quote jmh30][quote calgARI '07]Murray was sent down today.  There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL.  Won't last too long though.[/quote]Halpern and...  Parros?[/quote]

Yeah.  Parros is with the Avalanche now - was picked up off waivers last week.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 12, 2006, 03:33:26 PM
[quote calgARI '07]Murray was sent down today.  There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL.  Won't last too long though.[/quote]

According to this article, he's being sent down to get him in better shape.

http://www.theahl.com/news/league/index.html?article_id=7095
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: RatushnyFan on October 12, 2006, 04:49:03 PM
I have a bridge for sale.  Highest bidder.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: DeltaOne81 on October 12, 2006, 04:59:08 PM
[quote redhair34][quote calgARI '07]Murray was sent down today.  There are now more players from Yale and Princeton in the NHL.  Won't last too long though.[/quote]

According to this article, he's being sent down to get him in better shape.

http://www.theahl.com/news/league/index.html?article_id=7095[/quote]


I wouldn't take the term so literally. Conditioning assignment just means being sent down, for a temporary, but perhaps indefinite amount of time, while still being paid at an NHL rate. This may exempt him from needing to clear waivers, I'm honestly not sure.

NHL CBA:
13.8. Conditioning Assignment. Unless a player consents, he shall not be sent to a minor league club for conditioning reasons. Nor shall such conditioning extend for more than 14 consecutive days without the player's consent. The player shall continue, during such period or mutually agreed to extension of such period, to receive the same salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 12, 2006, 05:07:32 PM
[quote DeltaOne81]

I wouldn't take the term so literally. Conditioning assignment just means being sent down, for a temporary, but perhaps indefinite amount of time, while still being paid at an NHL rate. This may exempt him from needing to clear waivers, I'm honestly not sure.

NHL CBA:
13.8. Conditioning Assignment. Unless a player consents, he shall not be sent to a minor league club for conditioning reasons. Nor shall such conditioning extend for more than 14 consecutive days without the player's consent. The player shall continue, during such period or mutually agreed to extension of such period, to receive the same salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.[/quote]

Ahh ok, that makes sense.  It's a way to circumvent puting him on waivers?  I guess that's a good sign that they don't want to risk losing him.  And perhaps they want him to get more playing time than he would have as the 7th/8th dman.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: cbuckser on October 12, 2006, 05:48:43 PM
[quote redhair34]It's a way to circumvent puting him on waivers? [/quote]

Yes.  Players who are sent to a minor-league team on a conditioning assignment need not be placed on waivers when getting sent back to the minor leagues or returned to the NHL.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 12, 2006, 07:34:20 PM
No way does Murray pass through waivers so this move makes a lot of sense.  A team like Washington or Columbus would definitely put a claim in.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 12, 2006, 07:35:09 PM
McKee was sent to Augusta of the ECHL today.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: KeithK on October 12, 2006, 08:16:27 PM
[quote calgARI '07]McKee was sent to Augusta of the ECHL today.[/quote]Kind of sucks for McKee.  But he made his choice and being demoted is part of that.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 12, 2006, 08:21:48 PM
[quote KeithK][quote calgARI '07]McKee was sent to Augusta of the ECHL today.[/quote]Kind of sucks for McKee.  But he made his choice and being demoted is part of that.[/quote]

It really depends on which guy shows up.  The McKee of 04-05 is a totally different on than the guy of 05-06 (hold the Wisconsin game).  He's a reflex goalie so it'll take him more time to adjust to the pro's than a butterfly goalie would.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: ugarte on October 13, 2006, 09:37:52 AM
[quote calgARI '07] He's a reflex goalie so it'll take him more time to adjust to the pro's than a butterfly goalie would.[/quote]I think you meant to post this here (http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,98842).
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: The Rancor on October 15, 2006, 02:14:16 AM
iggy and doug combine for 3 goals in a 5-4 loss to a cornell alumnis free portland.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: The Rancor on October 15, 2006, 09:52:55 PM
Iggy adds a goal vs Lowell, while Moulson, Pokuluk and Lenny ride the pine in their games. ::screwy::

apparently Pokuluk has a concussion-like symptom and left Saturday's game early.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: The Rancor on October 15, 2006, 10:22:49 PM
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/hockey_fan04/album/576460762319348832/photo/294928803188903809/33

some good, if not amature photos of the SA Rampage, and lenny's new Phoenix Helmet, which comes with a -3 hp curse and a 4.33gaa if you roll an even number on your D-10. ::help::

ps check out sarmapage.com for another nice photo of lenny.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: cornelldavy on October 20, 2006, 04:06:53 AM
Apparently Doug's not too happy about his player rating in NHL 2K7:

[Q]Thornton had some of his teammates over recently for a little tournament at NHL 2K7 for the 360, and since he's on the cover, some of the guys have even begun appealing their ratings to him personally.

"We have one guy, Doug Murray, who is an up and down player, and he had to send one of our teammates down so he could get on the roster and play. He couldn't believe he was a 60. 'A 60! What are you doing to me?' He wanted to see if I could talk to the guys who make the game. Put in a good word. It was funny, he got a good kick out of it."[/Q]

http://sports.ign.com/articles/740/740463p1.html (the Murray reference is on the second page of the article)
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Josh '99 on October 20, 2006, 10:15:02 AM
If it'd make him feel better, he's over a 70 in EA's game.

Not that I'm the kind of big dork who'd know that off the top of his head or anything.   ::uhoh::
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 20, 2006, 11:07:46 PM
Lenny lets in 2 goals on 46 shots as the Rampage lose 3-1.  A couple more good outings and you'd think Phoenix would consider calling him up, as most reports have indicated that Morrison and Cujo have been horrible.
Title: Lenny called up?
Post by: redhair34 on October 21, 2006, 12:41:04 PM
Scroll to the bottom of the article.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/articles/1020coyotesnb1021.html
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 21, 2006, 10:02:51 PM
Moulson scores his first AHL goal tonight on the powerplay in the Monarchs 3-2 victory.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: The Rancor on October 22, 2006, 12:07:40 AM
Iggulden scores and Murray bangs one in again tonight, too.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Tom14850 on October 22, 2006, 04:40:25 PM
What's up with Pokulok? It looks like he has only one game of action in Hershey so far. Is he injured, or is this Hugh Jessiman syndrome?
Title: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: redhair34 on October 22, 2006, 05:48:51 PM
Murray is headed back to San Jose.  Check out this article for an interesting anecdote from his last game with Worcester.

http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061022/NEWS/610220550/1009/SPORTS
Title: Re: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: ebilmes on October 22, 2006, 06:46:25 PM
Quote"He's all talk, no action," Murray said of Clarkson and his thoughts of continuing things when the penalties expired, "but I wasn't going to be selfish then, with the score like it was. That's not helping my team."

With Murray headed for California today and Clarkson likely to stay in Lowell, the pair may not see each other again, at least not soon. But that doesn't mean it's over.

"I won't forget him," Murray said.

Clarkson...::rolleyes::
Title: Re: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on October 23, 2006, 08:19:53 AM
[quote ebilmes]
Quote"He's all talk, no action," Murray said of Clarkson and his thoughts of continuing things when the penalties expired, "but I wasn't going to be selfish then, with the score like it was. That's not helping my team."

With Murray headed for California today and Clarkson likely to stay in Lowell, the pair may not see each other again, at least not soon. But that doesn't mean it's over.

"I won't forget him," Murray said.

Clarkson...::rolleyes::[/quote]

Bet you he chokes in the playoffs.  :-P
Title: Re: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: Dpperk29 on October 23, 2006, 08:30:08 AM
is now when I should cry foul and say you aren;t giving us the respect we deserve and what not?
Title: Re: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: schoaff on October 23, 2006, 09:51:19 AM
[quote Dpperk29]is now when I should cry foul and say you aren;t giving us the respect we deserve and what not?[/quote]

If he had said it on USCHO or some other neutral site, sure. However, in eLynah I think you have to give us much more latitude than that.
Title: Re: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: Dpperk29 on October 23, 2006, 10:31:43 AM
some people just dont get it... I was merely checking to make sure I was integrating myself into the society of Tech hockey fans who patrol this forum... apparently you didn;t get it... ::screwy::
Title: Re: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: schoaff on October 23, 2006, 11:22:17 AM
[quote Dpperk29]some people just dont get it... I was merely checking to make sure I was integrating myself into the society of Tech hockey fans who patrol this forum... apparently you didn;t get it... ::screwy::[/quote]

Nope, you whooshed me. I'll go back to the short bus.
Title: Re: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: Jordan 04 on October 23, 2006, 11:34:17 AM
[quote Dpperk29]some people just dont get it... I was merely checking to make sure I was integrating myself into the society of Tech hockey fans who patrol this forum... apparently you didn;t get it... ::screwy::[/quote]

It might have been that you forgot to ::rolleyes::
Title: Re: Lenny called up?
Post by: Josh '99 on October 23, 2006, 11:49:22 AM
[quote redhair34]Scroll to the bottom of the article.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/articles/1020coyotesnb1021.html[/quote]Knowing my luck, he'll get the nod when the Rangers play Phoenix this Saturday and I'll have to root against him.   ::worry::
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on October 23, 2006, 12:47:32 PM
OK, so I was trolling a bit.  But it was a joke.  So sue me.

And Schoaff is right.  I probably would not have said it on USCHO.  But here, I think (most of) the Clarkson fans would expect a little friendly ribbing.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: KeithK on October 23, 2006, 01:33:51 PM
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]OK, so I was trolling a bit.  But it was a joke.  So sue me.

And Schoaff is right.  I probably would not have said it on USCHO.  But here, I think (most of) the Clarkson fans would expect a little friendly ribbing.[/quote]Anyone who gets offended by an offhand joke like the one Jeff made, even on a general forum like USCHO, especially when followed upw ith a :-P , is an idiot.

That said, i realize that Dpperk29's response shows a lack of idiocy.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Dpperk29 on October 23, 2006, 02:03:23 PM
my response to what jeff said was strictly meant to be funny... my second response... more for clarification and humor
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on October 23, 2006, 05:14:13 PM
[quote Dpperk29]my response to what jeff said was strictly meant to be funny... my second response... more for clarification and humor[/quote]

Sorry, Dpperk29.  No harm intended.  

Let's just say that someone has some of us a bit on edge.  ::twitch::
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 23, 2006, 05:22:00 PM
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Let's just say that someone has some of us a bit on edge.  ::twitch::[/quote]

LSSU?
Title: Re: Doug back to San Jose
Post by: Rita on October 23, 2006, 07:05:53 PM
[quote redhair34]Murray is headed back to San Jose.  Check out this article for an interesting anecdote from his last game with Worcester.

http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061022/NEWS/610220550/1009/SPORTS[/quote]

Doug is listed as a healthy scratch for tonight's game in Columbus.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: The Rancor on October 24, 2006, 04:11:29 PM
in echl news, Mckee had 33 saves and Hynes has 2 goals and an assist last in las nights win.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 24, 2006, 10:50:09 PM
Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period.  This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: nyc94 on October 24, 2006, 10:58:13 PM
[quote calgARI '07]Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period.  This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.[/quote]

Speaking as someone that never watches Phoenix, how much of this is their goalie situation, their defense, and their coach?  Rough estimates accepted.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 24, 2006, 11:22:28 PM
[quote nyc94][quote calgARI '07]Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period.  This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.[/quote]

Speaking as someone that never watches Phoenix, how much of this is their goalie situation, their defense, and their coach?  Rough estimates accepted.[/quote]

Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL.  Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the league and that team has lacked direction for five years now.  They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch of over the hill forwards and never will be's.  They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy, Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and Michalek but they have nothing past there.  They were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to have big rolls and these guys are well past it and not at all suited to the "New NHL."  I don't think much of Gretzky as a coach either.  He is clearly very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively than they should be.  It all comes back to Barnett though, who has made awful trade after awful trade.  The franchise has no direction on or off the ice.  They do have a nice stable of young blueliners to build around though.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 24, 2006, 11:25:09 PM
[quote calgARI '07][quote nyc94][quote calgARI '07]Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period.  This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.[/quote]

Speaking as someone that never watches Phoenix, how much of this is their goalie situation, their defense, and their coach?  Rough estimates accepted.[/quote]

Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL.  Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the league (not counting Garth Snow of course) and that team has lacked direction for five years now.  They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch of over the hill forwards and never will be's.  They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy, Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and Michalek but they have nothing past there.  They were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to have big rolls and these guys are well past it and not at all suited to the "New NHL."  I don't think much of Gretzky as a coach either.  He is clearly very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively than they should be.  It all comes back to Barnett though, who has made awful trade after awful trade.  The franchise has no direction on or off the ice.  They do have a nice stable of young blueliners to build around though.[/quote]
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Jacob '06 on October 25, 2006, 02:20:24 AM
[quote calgARI '07][quote nyc94][quote calgARI '07]Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period.  This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.[/quote]

Speaking as someone that never watches Phoenix, how much of this is their goalie situation, their defense, and their coach?  Rough estimates accepted.[/quote]

Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL.  Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the league and that team has lacked direction for five years now.  They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch of over the hill forwards and never will be's.  They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy, Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and Michalek but they have nothing past there.  They were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to have big rolls and these guys are well past it and not at all suited to the "New NHL."  I don't think much of Gretzky as a coach either.  He is clearly very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively than they should be.  It all comes back to Barnett though, who has made awful trade after awful trade.  The franchise has no direction on or off the ice.  They do have a nice stable of young blueliners to build around though.[/quote]

At that rookie tournament I went to I was amazed to see Phoenix seem to be the best team defensively, and it seems that their younger players are well rounded. I know at the NHL level their defense is not all that great.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Josh '99 on October 25, 2006, 11:29:47 AM
calgARI '07 Wrote:
> Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL.
> Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the
> league (not counting Garth Snow of course) and
> that team has lacked direction for five years now.
>  They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch
> of over the hill forwards and never will be's.
> They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy,
> Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and
> Michalek but they have nothing past there.  They
> were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to
> have big rolls and these guys are well past it and
> not at all suited to the "New NHL."  I don't think
> much of Gretzky as a coach either.  He is clearly
> very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively
> than they should be.  It all comes back to Barnett
> though, who has made awful trade after awful
> trade.  The franchise has no direction on or off
> the ice.  They do have a nice stable of young
> blueliners to build around though.

Four of the eight guys you list as part of that "decent core" (Comrie, Michalek, Ballard, Morris) were acquired by trade under Barnett's watch (and were acquired for not a whole lot); Jovanovski and Boynton were free agent signings by him.  (Roenick and Nolan don't have a whole lot left but they've only got one-year contracts at a little over $1 mil, not all that much of a gamble in the scheme of things.)  I don't think Barnett is doing all THAT badly - I think you're more on the right track as far as Gretzky not being all that hot of a coach.

(By the way, I found a pretty good site for NHL salary info (http://www3.telus.net/public/dreyes/nhl/), if anyone is curious.)
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 25, 2006, 12:45:19 PM
[quote calgARI '07]Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period.  This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.[/quote]

Morrison gets waived
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=181859&hubname=nhl
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 25, 2006, 01:40:20 PM
[quote Josh '99]calgARI '07 Wrote:
> Phoenix in my mind is the worst team in the NHL.
> Mike Barnett is far and away the worst GM in the
> league (not counting Garth Snow of course) and
> that team has lacked direction for five years now.
>  They actually have a decent blueline, but a bunch
> of over the hill forwards and never will be's.
> They actually have a decent core in Doan, Nagy,
> Comrie, Ballard, Morris, Jovanovski, Boynton, and
> Michalek but they have nothing past there.  They
> were counting on guys like Roenick and Nolan to
> have big rolls and these guys are well past it and
> not at all suited to the "New NHL."  I don't think
> much of Gretzky as a coach either.  He is clearly
> very intense but Phoenix is much worse defensively
> than they should be.  It all comes back to Barnett
> though, who has made awful trade after awful
> trade.  The franchise has no direction on or off
> the ice.  They do have a nice stable of young
> blueliners to build around though.

Four of the eight guys you list as part of that "decent core" (Comrie, Michalek, Ballard, Morris) were acquired by trade under Barnett's watch (and were acquired for not a whole lot); Jovanovski and Boynton were free agent signings by him.  (Roenick and Nolan don't have a whole lot left but they've only got one-year contracts at a little over $1 mil, not all that much of a gamble in the scheme of things.)  I don't think Barnett is doing all THAT badly - I think you're more on the right track as far as Gretzky not being all that hot of a coach.

(By the way, I found a pretty good site for NHL salary info (http://www3.telus.net/public/dreyes/nhl/), if anyone is curious.)[/quote]

Barnett has signed the following free agents, all well past their primes: Nolan, Roenick, Ricci, Hull, Laraque, Joseph.  Pretty clear that isn't how you win in the New NHL yet he still went after these types this past summer.  Basically moved Langkow and Handzus out for nothing as well.  

Best trade he ever made was fleecing the most overrated GM ever (Pierre Lacroix) by bringing in Morris and Ballard for Vaananen and pending FA Gratton.  

Also, Boynton was acquired in a trade this summer for Paul Mara.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 25, 2006, 01:41:11 PM
[quote redhair34][quote calgARI '07]Morrison gets lit up by the Flames and is pulled in the second period.  This was well adverstised as his last chance so expect LeNeveu to get the call soon.[/quote]

Morrison gets waived
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=181859&hubname=nhl[/quote]

There is a chance that Phillipe Sauve will get the call over LeNeveu.
Title: Lenevue Called Up to Coyotes
Post by: redhair34 on October 25, 2006, 04:24:21 PM
According to USA Today Lenny got the call up


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/st.htm
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 25, 2006, 04:37:52 PM
And in a matter of 48 hours, Cornell goes from having one NHLer to three surpassing Yale, Princeton, and Harvard in the process.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- Moulson mention in Union Leader
Post by: crodger1 on October 25, 2006, 06:23:57 PM
Each week Mark Morriss (add an S for extra savings?) writes an "Inside Source" column for the Union Leader.  This is from this week's write up

Quote from: Mark Morriss
Matt Moulson collected his first professional goal on Saturday and it was business as usual. He's an opportunist. Being in the right place at the right time is Matt's forte. He's a natural goal scorer and he will put a lot more pucks into net before the season is complete.


http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?articleId=f2efd2ca-b3b8-4739-baba-f608aa8d2ec5&headline=Inside+Source%3a+Effort+has+Monarchs+on+the+upswing

LGR!
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- Moulson mention in Union Leader
Post by: billhoward on October 25, 2006, 08:59:57 PM
[quote crodger1]Each week Mark Morriss (add an S for extra savings?) writes an "Inside Source" column for the Union Leader.  This is from this week's write up

Quote from: Mark Morriss
Matt Moulson collected his first professional goal on Saturday and it was business as usual. He's an opportunist. Being in the right place at the right time is Matt's forte. He's a natural goal scorer and he will put a lot more pucks into net before the season is complete.


http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?articleId=f2efd2ca-b3b8-4739-baba-f608aa8d2ec5&headline=Inside+Source%3a+Effort+has+Monarchs+on+the+upswing

LGR![/quote]

Man is a born natural to do color commentary. Next week he can note that Matt is some kind of player. And that he shows up for every game ready to play.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: BCrespi on October 25, 2006, 11:11:52 PM
[quote calgARI '07]And in a matter of 48 hours, Cornell goes from having one NHLer to three surpassing Yale, Princeton, and Harvard in the process.[/quote]

Unfortunately, and while this won't affect the Cornell tally most likely, Nieuwendyk left the Panthers win over the FLAT Rangers tonight early on.  Ranger announcers weren't sure of the severity of the injury.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Steve M on October 26, 2006, 09:28:42 AM
Adam Morrison is on waivers.  The Coyotes are likely to call up LeNeveu from San Antonio.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 26, 2006, 09:59:40 AM
[quote Steve M]Adam Morrison is on waivers.  The Coyotes are likely to call up LeNeveu from San Antonio.[/quote]

Mike Morrison.  Yotes could call up Phillipe Sauve as well - he has a bit more NHL experience.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- Moulson mention in Union Leader
Post by: Josh '99 on October 26, 2006, 02:11:42 PM
[quote crodger1]Each week Mark Morriss (add an S for extra savings?) writes an "Inside Source" column for the Union Leader.  This is from this week's write up[/quote]I think the last S is for "slap".
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: calgARI '07 on October 26, 2006, 03:14:21 PM
LeNeveu was officially called up today.  Morrison went unclaimed on waivers and was sent down.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: bigredtrumpet on October 26, 2006, 11:24:39 PM
Went to the NJ Devils vs. Florida Panthers game tonite...

was hoping to see Nieuwendyk in action but he was scratched... found out later he hurt his back in Wed nite's win over the Rangers...

Final Score NJ 2 - FL 0 ::nut::
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 27, 2006, 12:11:15 AM
[quote calgARI '07]LeNeveu was officially called up today[/quote]

He's in goal tonight and doing well. He has 1 goal allowed on 23 shots as the Yotes lead the Oilers 5-1.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on October 27, 2006, 08:10:53 AM
Final score 6-2 PHX last night.  Lenny stopped 32 of 34, and got the first star.  

There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Beeeej on October 27, 2006, 09:37:55 AM
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Final score 6-2 PHX last night.  Lenny stopped 32 of 34, and got the first star.  

There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.[/quote]

To save you all a bit of searching, the video clip is on this page:

http://www.phoenixcoyotes.com/flash_video/leneveu_postgame_1026.php
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Josh '99 on October 27, 2006, 10:40:25 AM
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Final score 6-2 PHX last night.  Lenny stopped 32 of 34, and got the first star.  

There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.[/quote]
LE-NE-VEU!  LE-NE-VEU!

:-D
Title: SI Nieuwendyk + Dryden Mention
Post by: Josh '99 on October 27, 2006, 11:16:10 AM
After the bit of coverage we saw about that guy in Montreal being the first player in the NHL to wear #84, the last two-digit number never worn in the NHL, SI's Brian Cazeneuve wrote a short article about the best player to wear each number in the NHL (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/brian_cazeneuve/10/25/best.numbers/index.html).  Joe makes the cut for #25, Dryden for #29.  Doug Murray is not yet the greatest wearer of #41, but I have no doubt he'll pass Stu Barnes within a couple years.  ::rock::

Edit:  No other school had more than one player listed.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: RatushnyFan on October 27, 2006, 12:31:17 PM
Lenny was solid in his first game.  Let in a weak goal to F. Pisani but that was after making two great saves on breakaways by A. Hemsky.  He had no chance on the second goal.  Gretzky has already indicated that he has the hot hand and will be starting versus the Rangers on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: CowbellGuy on October 27, 2006, 12:34:05 PM
Guess he'll get 2 wins in a row. *sob*
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: RichH on October 27, 2006, 01:00:06 PM
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.[/quote]

Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.  

C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on October 27, 2006, 01:04:21 PM
[quote RichH][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.[/quote]

Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.  

C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."[/quote]

Yeah, I thought the same thing.  Can't help but picture Nuke LaLouche everytime I see an interview.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Rita on October 27, 2006, 01:05:55 PM
[quote RichH][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.[/quote]

Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.  

C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."[/quote]

Anybody know if Kevin Costner is available to help Lenny with this aspect of his development? :-P
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: jtwcornell91 on October 27, 2006, 07:59:06 PM
[quote Rita][quote RichH][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.[/quote]

Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.  

C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."[/quote]

Anybody know if Kevin Costner is available to help Lenny with this aspect of his development? :-P[/quote]

[Insert Susan Sarandon joke here.]
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on October 28, 2006, 07:25:00 AM
[quote jtwcornell91][quote Rita][quote RichH][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]There's a post-game video clip of him on the Coyotes website.[/quote]

Hmm...he needs to work on his post-game interview cliches.  

C'mon, Lenny...by next month, I want you to master "we're just going to take it one game at a time..." and some version of "hard work" and "we never quit."[/quote]

Anybody know if Kevin Costner is available to help Lenny with this aspect of his development? :-P[/quote]

[Insert Susan Sarandon joke here.][/quote]

Oh, my!  :-)
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 28, 2006, 11:33:38 PM
Lenny is getting shelled by the Rangers 5-1 in the 2nd.  Seems like he's not doing that bad but the Phoenix "D" has left him out to dry.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Cactus12 on October 28, 2006, 11:46:40 PM
Yeah, he's actually playing descently. Phoenix is terrible (and the Rangers top lines are finally clicking)
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: scoop85 on October 29, 2006, 07:01:53 AM
I saw most of the first two periods and it was easily the Rangers most productive offensive effort of the season.  Lenny actually held his own durign the onlsaught (he stopped Betts off a breakaway), and a couple of the goals were off of weird deflections.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: scoop85 on October 29, 2006, 07:08:59 AM
Even the Great One thought Lenny played well despite the final (7-3 Rangers).

www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/15877088.htm
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 29, 2006, 05:48:51 PM
Doug Murray is playing in his first NHL game of the season this evening.  He already picked up a roughing penalty.:-)
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Sarli on October 29, 2006, 08:11:00 PM
He didn't stop at roughing...
Doug lands a few, or at least one (http://www.sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/recap/NHL_20061029_SJ@TB)
CBS recap has the photo
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: redhair34 on October 29, 2006, 08:18:54 PM
[quote Sarli]He didn't stop at roughing...
Doug lands a few, or at least one (http://www.sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/recap/NHL_20061029_SJ@TB)
CBS recap has the photo[/quote]

Yeah some of the Sharks fans over on HF "felt sorry" for Sarich.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Josh '99 on October 30, 2006, 12:03:40 AM
[quote Sarli]He didn't stop at roughing...
Doug lands a few, or at least one (http://www.sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/recap/NHL_20061029_SJ@TB)
CBS recap has the photo[/quote]Looks like Doug was happy to get back into game action!  Looking at the box score, the hooking penalty worries me more than the other two regarding the chances of Doug's continued playing time.

Edit:  Far be it from me to disagree with Wayne Gretzky.  Lenny played about as well as a goalie can play when he gives up 7 goals.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on October 30, 2006, 08:05:36 AM
Doug smash!

http://www.hockeyfights.com/cf1931/061029_murray_sarich.wmv
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: The Rancor on October 30, 2006, 01:11:56 PM
broken link bad!
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Liz '05 on October 30, 2006, 05:58:29 PM
It worked for me this morning.  Wow.  That guy had no chance against Doug - I don't think he got his arms up to protect his face, let alone return any fire.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: nr53 on October 30, 2006, 10:05:29 PM
65 lb difference... ouch
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: Avash on October 30, 2006, 10:19:55 PM
[quote The Rancor]broken link bad![/quote]

Same here, but if you paste the link into Windows Media Player (Open URL), it works
Title: the trigger
Post by: David Harding on October 31, 2006, 12:03:24 AM
The Sharks version http://www.sjsharks.com/news/news.asp?story_id=2727
[q]...On defense Doug Murray made his season debut as Josh Gorges was given the night off.
...
Minutes after the Sharks made it a 2-0 lead, Patrick Rissmiller looked to make the smart defensive play and chip the puck out of the Sharks zone. As soon as he cleared the puck, Lightning defenseman Cory Sarich took a run at Rissmiller, knocking the winger to the ice much to the chagrin of Murray. Sarich, who had sent Thornton to the ice in the first period with a vicious elbow, was challenged by Murray who had clearly seen enough. Murray clearly had the upper hand in the fight, landing several punches and eventually taking Sarich to the ice....
[/q]
Title: Re: the trigger
Post by: Robb on October 31, 2006, 12:18:01 AM
[quote David Harding]
 Murray clearly had the upper hand in the fight, landing several punches and eventually taking Sarich to the ice....[/quote]
Too bad college players are too "soft" for the NHL...  :)
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: ugarte on October 31, 2006, 01:48:26 AM
[quote Avash '05][quote The Rancor]broken link bad![/quote]

Same here, but if you paste the link into Windows Media Player (Open URL), it works[/quote]Thanks for the tip! (Did I see blood on the other guy? Let's flow red!)
Title: Re: the trigger
Post by: Cactus12 on October 31, 2006, 02:15:32 AM
The sharks website has a video recap of the game including the fight... I wouldn't want to fight Murray
Title: Re: sharks v. panthers
Post by: Rita on October 31, 2006, 07:50:53 PM
Currently on Versus (0-0 in the first).

I think I missed something.  When did Doug change to number 3?
Title: Re: sharks v. panthers
Post by: French Rage on October 31, 2006, 08:08:31 PM
[quote Rita]Currently on Versus (0-0 in the first).

I think I missed something.  When did Doug change to number 3?[/quote]

Whoa, I missed that, odd.

Doug has 4 minutes or so so far in the first.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: French Rage on October 31, 2006, 08:35:42 PM
Announcer mentions a great play by Murray stopping at the top of the offensize zone to pull a back-checker to him and away from the play along the boards.
Title: Re: sharks v. panthers
Post by: redhair34 on October 31, 2006, 08:38:48 PM
[quote French Rage][quote Rita]Currently on Versus (0-0 in the first).

I think I missed something.  When did Doug change to number 3?[/quote]

Whoa, I missed that, odd.

Doug has 4 minutes or so so far in the first.[/quote]

He looks good, save one bad giveaway at the begining of the game.
Title: Re: Alumni in the Pros -- October 2006
Post by: jkahn on October 31, 2006, 10:03:52 PM
Did a web search on Doug and found this on opentopia
[q]Doug Murray (born March 12,1980 in Bromma, Sweden) is an NHL hockey player, currently playing defense for the San Jose Sharks. A stay-at-home player who can dish out bone-crunching hits, he was drafted in the 8th round, 241st overall by the Sharks in the 1999 NHL Entry Draft.
From the 1999-2000 season to the 2002-2003 season he played for Cornell University. While at Cornell, he served as Captain his senior year and was twice named a first team All-American. In the 2003-2004 and the locked-out 2004-2005 season he played for San Jose's minor league affiliate, the Cleveland Barons, and contributed both offensively and defensively, leading the team in plus/minus and being second on the team in points for a defenseman. He also served as an alternate captain. [/q]