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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: Brian on March 26, 2006, 11:57:29 AM

Title: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Brian on March 26, 2006, 11:57:29 AM
Did anybody else see this?  Maybe there is finally going to be some officiating changes!

http://www.uscho.com/news/id,12455/BellemoreEarleToResignFromECACHL.html
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: schoaff on March 26, 2006, 12:00:32 PM
Ayup.

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,91862
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Brian on March 26, 2006, 12:02:41 PM
My first choice to go MURPHY!
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Chris \'03 on March 26, 2006, 12:03:26 PM
Can you be more specific?
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Will on March 26, 2006, 04:06:37 PM
[quote Chris '03]Can you be more specific?[/quote]
The Murphy that sucks. :-P
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: judy on March 26, 2006, 04:17:42 PM
[quote Will][quote Chris '03]Can you be more specific?[/quote]
The Murphy that sucks. :-P[/quote]

whether it be player or ref  ::laugh::
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Townie on March 26, 2006, 04:50:24 PM
[quote Brian]My first choice to go MURPHY![/quote]

Based on the Harvard game, Feola tops my hit list.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 28, 2006, 07:59:56 AM
[quote Townie][quote Brian]My first choice to go MURPHY![/quote]

Based on the Harvard game, Feola tops my hit list.[/quote]

Based onevery game I'm seen him call, Feola tops my list.  Players get hurt when he refs.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Give My Regards on March 28, 2006, 09:16:30 AM
[quote Will][quote Chris '03]Can you be more specific?[/quote]
The Murphy that sucks. :-P[/quote]

Can you be more specific? :-D
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 28, 2006, 05:00:56 PM
[quote fenwick][quote Will][quote Chris '03]Can you be more specific?[/quote]
The Murphy that sucks. :-P[/quote]

Can you be more specific? :-D[/quote]

Oh, just pick one.  They're interchangeable.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: KeithK on March 28, 2006, 06:21:50 PM
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82][quote fenwick][quote Will][quote Chris '03]Can you be more specific?[/quote]
The Murphy that sucks. :-P[/quote]

Can you be more specific? :-D[/quote]

Oh, just pick one.  They're interchangeable.[/quote]I actually think John Murphy is a pretty good ref.  For instance, he did a nice job with the Colgate semifinal.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: redhair34 on March 28, 2006, 07:20:01 PM
[quote KeithK]I actually think John Murphy is a pretty good ref.  For instance, he did a nice job with the Colgate semifinal.[/quote]

I agree.  In fact I'd go one step further and say he was the best ECAC ref we saw all year.  He refereed all three games against Colgate this year.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Dafatone on March 29, 2006, 09:34:22 AM
My picks to go are Feola, Hansen, maybe Dell, and... well, Feola again.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Trotsky on March 29, 2006, 10:00:15 AM
[quote redhair34][quote KeithK]I actually think John Murphy is a pretty good ref.  For instance, he did a nice job with the Colgate semifinal.[/quote]

I agree.  In fact I'd go one step further and say he was the best ECAC ref we saw all year.  He refereed all three games against Colgate this year.[/quote]

Agreed.  As a prominent Cornell hockey figure has said, "at least John Murphy knows the rules.  That's more than you can say for some of them."
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Beeeej on March 29, 2006, 10:07:40 AM
[quote Trotsky]As a prominent Cornell hockey figure has said, "at least John Murphy knows the rules.  That's more than you can say for some of them."[/quote]

Nov. 30, 1996: The Miami (OH) player with the puck loses his helmet, the Big Red back off knowing it's illegal for him to play without it and illegal for them to hit him while he lacks it, yet the ref fails to whistle the play dead; the helmet-less player passes through the slot to a teammate for the GWG.

The only other instance (that I can recall specifically, anyway) where I've understood the rules to say or mean something other than what the officiating crew did was when a Cornell player skated backwards into the offensive zone in advance of the puck but in complete control of it, and the play was whistled dead for offsides.

I suspect others here will have a number of other specific memories of refs getting things wrong?

Beeeej
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: andyw2100 on March 29, 2006, 11:15:12 AM
QuoteI suspect others here will have a number of other specific memories of refs getting things wrong?

Beeeej

A couple of years back at Lynah we were whistled for icing, while playing short-handed.
                      Andy W.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: RatushnyFan on March 29, 2006, 11:45:51 AM
Dan Ratushny got about 20 penalties in his career that were clean hits where the apparent infraction was that he hit someone too hard.  Over the boos of the Lynah Faithful, you could usually hear the piercing scream "FOR WHAT????" from our good friend Dan.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: canuck89 on March 29, 2006, 01:14:56 PM
Those would be my three choices as well.  Hansen and Feola were the worst this year in my mind; hansen probably if I had to pick between the two.  Dell was absolutely horrible last year though.  Let's see who moves into first place next year between the three. :-P
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: redhair34 on March 29, 2006, 01:21:38 PM
[quote andyw2100]
QuoteA couple of years back at Lynah we were whistled for icing, while playing short-handed.
                      Andy W.

IIRC, the same thing happened earlier this year when someone pulled their sieve at the end of the game and we were in the box.  Does this ring a bell?
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: DeltaOne81 on March 29, 2006, 01:24:51 PM
[quote redhair34][quote andyw2100]
A couple of years back at Lynah we were whistled for icing, while playing short-handed.
                      Andy W.[/quote]

IIRC, the same thing happened earlier this year when someone pulled their sieve at the end of the game and we were in the box.  Does this ring a bell?[/quote]

Yes, I was thinking that too. But I can't place it. Something makes me think it was an OOC game, maybe Niagra?
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 29, 2006, 02:09:07 PM
[quote DeltaOne81][quote redhair34][quote andyw2100]
A couple of years back at Lynah we were whistled for icing, while playing short-handed.
                      Andy W.[/quote]

IIRC, the same thing happened earlier this year when someone pulled their sieve at the end of the game and we were in the box.  Does this ring a bell?[/quote]

Yes, I was thinking that too. But I can't place it. Something makes me think it was an OOC game, maybe Niagra?[/quote]

I remember being there, so it would have been either Niagara or MSU game one.  IIRC, there were only a few seconds left, so the game would have ended had there been no whistle, and a faceoff at center ice would have given the opponent a chance at a goal they would otherwise not have had.  So the faceoff ended up in their zone.
Title: Re: ECACHL Officiating
Post by: Give My Regards on March 29, 2006, 04:47:42 PM
[quote Beeeej][quote Trotsky]As a prominent Cornell hockey figure has said, "at least John Murphy knows the rules.  That's more than you can say for some of them."[/quote]

[snip]

I suspect others here will have a number of other specific memories of refs getting things wrong?
[/quote]

As a matter of fact, yes -- John Murphy!  He, along with Peter Dawes (this was in '94, I think, during the NCAA's experiment with two refs and one linesman), botched the game at Colgate to an unbelievable degree.  To wit:  three faceoffs held in the wrong spot; two occasions in which the puck left the ice, struck something (the pressbox and the glass behind the bench), bounced back onto the ice and play continued; and a pair of fighting majors/DQ's, instead of roughing minors, handed out to two players for falling to the ice and holding on to each other with both hands, i.e. there was no way either of them could have thrown a punch.  I also heard later that one of the two refs whistled a penalty on a player and then proceeded to forget which player he had made the call on, so the team's coach had to designate someone to serve the penalty.

I saw John Murphy do the Colgate game at Lynah, and I do have to admit he's a lot better now than he was a dozen years ago... so maybe there's hope for some of the rest of them.

And to be fair, that performance in '94 was still nowhere near as bad as the guy in the late '80s who not only didn't know the rules but couldn't even count.  This was before the rules on coincidental minors.  At one point in the game, this fellow put two guys from each team in the box, with double-minors each -- then proceeded to have the teams skate 4-on-4, not 3-on-3.  It took over a minute, and several shouts from the scorer's table, for him to realize something was wrong.