So are there bulldozers out on the south side of Lynah digging up the ground already? It was supposed to start today (3/13/06) on the outside ... since the team has some need of the inside of the rink still for the next couple weeks.
Carl McKee says the expansion is at street level and the players walk up and down a flight of steps (with deep treads, one hopes).
Press Box, seats in section C, and penalty boxes are all gone. No digging yet on the south side yet, but it is fenced off and has construction equipment around.
Boy, they weren't kidding about starting right after the last home game.
Oh, wait: this is an endowed construction project. Suddenly it all makes sense. Sukath, his eyes uncovered! :)
Can someone stop by and take pictures occasionally for those of us interested in seeing progress? Too bad the Hotel School's live webcam can't see through Barton. :)
Cheers,
Kyle
[quote krose]Too bad the Hotel School's live webcam can't see through Barton. :)
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No, but a webcam is a great idea, and perhaps the AD could be convinced it would help the fundraising drive. I can't be the only person so dorky that I'd run it as my background. Am I?
Um... seriously... am I? I'm starting to scare myself.
I'd click on the Webcame once in a while to see what was going on, but I'd never admit to making it the wallpaper. That's depraved. Of course, Andy Warhol made an eight hour movie of an office building showing lights going on and off. But that was art.
Plus, you'd swear it was frozen most of the time, because all you see is two guys seating in row 8 with Dunkin Donuts coffee cups, and no motion.
[quote billhoward]Plus, you'd swear it was frozen most of the time, because all you see is two guys seating in row 8 with Dunkin Donuts coffee cups, and no motion.[/quote]
If they had Dunkin' Donuts coffee cups, that truly would be remarkable.
[quote Will][quote billhoward]Plus, you'd swear it was frozen most of the time, because all you see is two guys seating in row 8 with Dunkin Donuts coffee cups, and no motion.[/quote]
If they had Dunkin' Donuts coffee cups, that truly would be remarkable.[/quote]
the cups are only 40 minutes away :)
The more I think about this the more I think they should have sucked it up and paid to dig a deep foundation and put the locker rooms at ice level.
YES! I have no idea why this plan was ok'd.
[quote canuck89]YES! I have no idea why this plan was ok'd.[/quote]
I'm guessing Schafer thought it was ok.
Yost evidently has the same issue, and it doesn't seem to affect their recruiting. As an amateur player, I find walking up and down stairs (especially up, but ESPECIALLY down) irritating; but compared to college players, I am a completely unconditioned, scrawny, whiny little weakling who complains about everything anyway.
Besides, they will probably get much better stairs than I encounter: probably with low risers, deep treads, and the resulting gradual gradient. At that point, it probably doesn't matter, even from a safety perspective.
[Or maybe they're getting a freight elevator. That would work, too, except when we hear Arthur during the second intermission announce that "Due to mechanical difficulties, the team is stuck in the locker room elevator and will not be able to complete the game. Therefore, AD has added Dave, the dancing bears, Mike Teeter, and myself to the roster effective immediately. In goal, from China, will be that sheet of plastic with the four corner cutouts."]
Kyle
[quote krose]
maybe they're getting a freight elevator.[/quote]
A fireman's pole to come down, and a skate-proof trampoline to go up.
Alternatively, a happy-fun slide that shoots them right onto the ice.
that announcement would be followed by the mass suicide of most of the faithful.
I guess I keep coming back to the attractiveness of the design and the fact that since Bartels was completed in 1990 they have slapped on the Friedman weight room and now the Lynah addition. Can anyone at Cornell see down the road further than five or six years and anticipate future needs? Maybe when they built Bartels they could have expanded Lynah in that direction.
[quote RichH][quote krose]
maybe they're getting a freight elevator.[/quote]
A fireman's pole to come down, and a skate-proof trampoline to go up.
Alternatively, a happy-fun slide that shoots them right onto the ice.[/quote]
:-D
[quote nyc94]I guess I keep coming back to the attractiveness of the design and the fact that since Bartels was completed in 1990 they have slapped on the Friedman weight room and now the Lynah addition. Can anyone at Cornell see down the road further than five or six years and anticipate future needs? Maybe when they built Bartels they could have expanded Lynah in that direction.[/quote]Personally I really couldn't care less what the place looks like from the outside. It could look like the biggest dump in the world as long as they keep the inside pretty similar to what we have now.
As for expanding when Bartels was built, can anyone who was around then comment about the attendance in the mid eighties? Expansion has only been an issue because the team has consistently sold every ticket for 10 years. It certainly wasn't an issue in the late McCutcheon years. Since the Alberding plans were drawn up in the 80's, attendance then would be the relevant factor. Considering some of the weaker years in the 80's I wouldn't be surprised if the barn wasn't full every night every year, but I'll leave it to Greg or Jeff or someone to fill me in.
Keith, I was only thinking about new locker rooms when I mentioned expansion during the Fieldhouse construction, not more seats. Blast a tunnel through section F and there you go.
[quote nyc94]Keith, I was only thinking about new locker rooms when I mentioned expansion during the Fieldhouse construction, not more seats. Blast a tunnel through section F and there you go.[/quote]Oh, OK. But I think it's still relevant to think about the difference in standards back then. I think back then many fewer programs had the shiny new facilities that everyone touts now as being critical for recruiting. So the pressure to keep up with the Joneses wasn't there. Maybe Cornell should've been farsighted, but I find it hard to fault the AD back then (was Laing Kennedy there yet?) for that.
[quote nyc94]I guess I keep coming back to the attractiveness of the design and the fact that since Bartels was completed in 1990 they have slapped on the Friedman weight room and now the Lynah addition. Can anyone at Cornell see down the road further than five or six years and anticipate future needs? Maybe when they built Bartels they could have expanded Lynah in that direction.[/quote]
i think all of us know that cornell does not plan well, nor do they plan well in advance. the tearing up of tower road x 2.5 while i was an undergrad is a great example. didnt they improve the drainage at alumni fields in the 90's, now only to have a huge hole there now? i may be wrong with that one, but u get my point
Universities are also at much greater difficulties than the private sector in regards to long range planning. When Coach Schafer came the facilties were OK, not great. However we certainly were not a national power, nor could we have been planning to be. However he brought us there and rightfully needs better facilities. So here we go. Couldn't have planned it.
The Alumni fields, biotech and nano tech are other examples. Fifteen years ago who'd a thunk it? Now we need to do it, so... When a company needs to add on or start another plant, it's not often we get this kind of discussion about their facility. I haven't heard much discussion about Kodak maintaining the ambiance of their plants as they go from film to digital; all most people in Roch care about is whether there are jobs there. Now if the U of Rochester wanted to drastically change their campus, then there would be much discussion by people who really would not be significantly affected by whatever they did.
Universities have many masters, students, faculty, alumni, townspeople and workers, many of whom feel that they are the true important ones. Try it sometime, or think back when you were growing up, you were "important", wanted your rights, but your family often had different ideas. Sometimes you won, often they did.
[quote Dpperk29]that announcement would be followed by the mass suicide of most of the faithful.[/quote]
On the other hand, with Arthur skating defense, I'd get to announce.
Beeeej