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Title: Cornell 0 RPI 2
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 06:13:48 PM
1 16:41 RPI Eizenman (unassisted)
1 18:18 RPI Croxton (Colling, McWilliams)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: ursusminor on February 24, 2006, 06:16:45 PM
The lineups as posted by Jericho on USCHO.

CORNELL
Moulson-Bitz-Carefoot
Cam Abbott-Pegoraro-McCutcheon
Mugford-Chriss Abbott-Sawada
Scott-Kennedy-Barlow
Glover-Gleed
Salmela-Kindret
Davenport-Seminoff
McKee*-Chabot



RPI
Yurkewecz-Klerer-Morrisette
Uryadov-Eaves-Hussey
Colling-Eizenman-Croxton
Ornelas-AngersGoulet-Lord
Swanson-MCWilliams
Romfo-Luthi
Kipp-Farynuk
Lange*-Neubert-Alford
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 24, 2006, 06:19:44 PM
Looks like both O'Byrne and Pokulok are out.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: pfibiger on February 24, 2006, 06:20:25 PM
wait, so we're missing O'Byrne, Pokulok, _and_ Krantz? ugh.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: mjc on February 24, 2006, 06:27:47 PM
What happened to Krantz?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 24, 2006, 06:31:36 PM
Wonder how much ice time Davenport will get.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
[quote mjc]What happened to Krantz?[/quote]

Schafer said on the pregame show that he injured himself in the 1st period against Harvard.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 06:34:05 PM
Coach says Pegs and Bitz will drop back and play some D as they did at St. Lawrence.  He also mentioned that he changed up some of the systems and that we won't be able to forecheck as he'd like.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 24, 2006, 06:34:10 PM
[quote redhair34][quote mjc]What happened to Krantz?[/quote]

Schafer said on the pregame show that he injured himself in the 1st period against Harvard.[/quote]
Must have been after he rang one off the post.  What a difference a goal there would have meant.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 24, 2006, 06:35:40 PM
[quote redhair34]Coach says Pegs and Bitz will drop back and play some D as they did at St. Lawrence.  He also mentioned that he changed up some of the systems and that we won't be able to forecheck as he'd like.[/quote]
Would be nice if Some-Access subscribers could have heard the interview.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 06:37:34 PM
[quote Al DeFlorio][quote redhair34]Coach says Pegs and Bitz will drop back and play some D as they did at St. Lawrence.  He also mentioned that he changed up some of the systems and that we won't be able to forecheck as he'd like.[/quote]
Would be nice of Some-Access subscribers could have heard the interview.[/quote]

I was thinking that too as I listen to the voice telling me that "the stream you have requested is currently unavailable....." :-(
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 06:38:52 PM
[quote Al DeFlorio]Would be nice of Some-Access subscribers could have heard the interview.[/quote]

Yeah, but at least you have someone to give you an executive summary.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 24, 2006, 06:40:46 PM
[quote redhair34][quote Al DeFlorio]Would be nice of Some-Access subscribers could have heard the interview.[/quote]

Yeah, but at least you have someone to give you an executive summary.[/quote]
And at no charge, to boot. ::laugh::
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 06:41:13 PM
Audio is up.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 06:42:32 PM
We used to not pay and we heard the coach.  Now we pay and don't hear the coach.  Smells like vintage Cornell All-Access, and their "enhanced service."
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 24, 2006, 06:47:04 PM
[quote Trotsky]We used to not pay and we heard the coach.  Now we pay and don't hear the coach.  Smells like vintage Cornell All-Access, and their "enhanced service."[/quote]
Also of interest is the "surprise" factor in terms of what is going to be broadcast.  There's a "Watch" link after Saturday's lacrosse game with Binghamton, but when you click on it the game is not included in the list of upcoming games.  And there's no mention of a webcast in the game preview at CornellBigRed.com.  So you wind up sitting in front of the computer at 1pm tomorrow hoping and clicking.  What lousy customer service!  If I didn't love Cornell hockey I'd never give the insensitive, uncommunicative sons-of-bitches a lousy nickel.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 06:50:29 PM
Jason Moy (USCHO Bracketology and ECAC guy) says that if Cornell wins the ECAC championship we could be seeded anywhere from 4-8 for the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 06:51:22 PM
The 70's SNL skit said it all.

"We don't care.
We don't have to.
We're the phone company."
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: JDeafv on February 24, 2006, 06:52:58 PM
Anybody in IRC chat?  If so, what server?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 06:53:40 PM
should be fun considering we are missing 19'1" and 605 lbs of defense...
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 06:54:06 PM
he had been using irc://irc.undernet.org/lynah for the last few weeks
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 06:56:15 PM
Cornell Starters-
Moulson-Bitz-Carefoot
Salmela-Seminoff
McKee
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 06:56:34 PM
No GameTracker for this one?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: French Rage on February 24, 2006, 06:56:39 PM
For some reason the media player has no volume knob tonight.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (pregame)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 06:57:35 PM
[quote redhair34]Jason Moy (USCHO Bracketology and ECAC guy) says that if Cornell wins the ECAC championship we could be seeded anywhere from 4-8 for the NCAA tournament.[/quote]

[quote Dpperk29]should be fun considering we are missing 19'1" and 605 lbs of defense...[/quote]

Well, that tops my fun fact relating to our possible seed in NC$$ which was to note that the average temperature in Grand Forks, ND on March 24th is 30 degrees F. ;-)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: JDeafv on February 24, 2006, 06:57:56 PM
Thanks for the server.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 06:58:55 PM
Free audio here: http://wrpi.rpi.edu/realaudio/index.html
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: French Rage on February 24, 2006, 06:59:43 PM
RED!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:00:10 PM
Oh man, Dell's the ref.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: sockralex on February 24, 2006, 07:02:58 PM
Slow down RPI announcer!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:04:05 PM
And pronounce it SAL-mela, please.

PP for RPI
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:05:03 PM
Oh god, Seminoff goes off (penalty).  We're down two 2 real D's...  ::help::
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:07:02 PM
Killed
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 07:07:04 PM
We're back to full strength.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Jerseygirl on February 24, 2006, 07:07:34 PM
Do both of these RPI announcers have very slight speech impediments, or do I need to get my hearing checked? I'm being serious.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:08:44 PM
Jayson Moy used to do color on the RPI cast and he was great.  No idea who does it now, though.

(Edit: or was it Mike Machnik?  I forget.  I'm old.)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:09:54 PM
Haha "there are two Abbotts on the ice".
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:10:17 PM
Drt 1 Clk 0
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 07:11:05 PM
go TECH!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: sockralex on February 24, 2006, 07:11:12 PM
Q-pac 1 Yale 0
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:11:35 PM
12:28 to go in 1st, Cornell sounds tentative, and I don't blame them.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:13:01 PM
Good push there...
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: ursusminor on February 24, 2006, 07:13:08 PM
[quote Trotsky]Jayson Moy used to do color on the RPI cast and he was great.  No idea who does it now, though.

(Edit: or was it Mike Machnik?  I forget.  I'm old.)[/quote] Jayson does play-by-play sometimes. He'll be doing the Cornell-Union TV game tomorrow. RPI has used about six announcers this season. Kurt Stutt is doing play-by-play today, and Ed Der-something (can't spell it; call him Jericho) is doing color. Mike used to do Mmerrimack broadcasts.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:13:15 PM
Decent stretch by Cornell now, with some chances in the RPI zone.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:14:55 PM
Thunderstix (TM) Suck (TM)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:16:14 PM
9:01 left, Lange with a neat save on Topher.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 07:17:36 PM
This would be a nice weekend for the freshman to step it up offensively, as the will certainly see more ice time.  I don't think any of them have a point since the slu-clarkson home weekend.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 24, 2006, 07:17:42 PM
[quote Trotsky]Thunderstix (TM) Suck (TM)[/quote]

Correction:  Thunderstix (TM) Sux (TM)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:17:50 PM
7:58, Bitz and Moulson nearly combine.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:17:56 PM
What the hell was the announcer saying about scoreless?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:18:45 PM
[quote redhair34]This would be a nice weekend for the freshman to step it up offensively, as the will certainly see more ice time.  I don't think any of them have a point since the slu-clarkson home weekend.[/quote]

We were skating five frosh at once earlier tonight.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 07:19:11 PM
It sounds like RPI is wining the physical battle.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Ronald '09 on February 24, 2006, 07:19:14 PM
words of wisdom from the broadcaster

"it's tough to be scoreless when you're tied at 1"
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:20:09 PM
Salmela seems to be getting into the action aggressively, a lot.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 07:20:18 PM
5:55 left in the first period. still no score.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:23:23 PM
Ahh...good chance there for Abbott.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:23:40 PM
RPI scores
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 24, 2006, 07:23:53 PM
God damn.  We blew another 2 on 1.

And RPI scores.  Shit.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: PinkyGen on February 24, 2006, 07:23:54 PM
crap.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:24:10 PM
(Never mind.  Looks like I'm just behind.)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 07:24:36 PM
shoot. RPI takes a 1-0 lead. Sounds like on that shift we had 4 pylons out there. Oh dear.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: PinkyGen on February 24, 2006, 07:24:49 PM
You mean with changing the thread title? Sorry
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Jordan 04 on February 24, 2006, 07:26:35 PM
If he's way ahead, then don't keep refreshing the game thread if you're listening simultaneously  ::screwy::

Obviously there are folks listening in Ithaca.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:27:18 PM
DAMMIT! 2-0!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: sockralex on February 24, 2006, 07:27:19 PM
Q-piac 2 - Yale 0 and shit!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: imafrshmn on February 24, 2006, 07:27:45 PM
this is ugly
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 07:27:56 PM
I hate that horn! 2-0 at 18:18. :-(
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Jordan 04 on February 24, 2006, 07:28:02 PM
Yikes. Might be a loooong weekend.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 0 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:28:51 PM
"If you see Fenwick on the road, kill him."

(for the 1991 comparison)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:28:53 PM
RPI Penalty
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Jordan 04 on February 24, 2006, 07:29:02 PM
Cornell PP.  Huge chance to get one back here...
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 07:29:42 PM
Power Play with 1 min left in the 1st. Paging Mr. Matt Moulson. Would you please put the puck behind the RPI goalie?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:29:44 PM
We knew there were going to be goals, we're playing without defense.  The key is Cornell has to score n+1.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Trustnduzt on February 24, 2006, 07:30:38 PM
Not a good period
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 07:31:36 PM
End of the first. I hope Coach draws up something good for the last minute of the PP.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 07:33:25 PM
like a goal?

personally I hope he benches moulson for the rest of it... the kid has been so ineffective
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 07:33:47 PM
I hope he rearanges the dressing room after allowing their guy to beat 4 of our players and McKee.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (1st period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 07:33:52 PM
Anyone know the score of Colgate-Union?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 07:34:53 PM
[quote Dpperk29]like a goal?

personally I hope he benches moulson for the rest of it... the kid has been so ineffective[/quote]

That would be ineffective.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 07:36:33 PM
SLU 1 Sucks 0 end of 1st
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (1st period)
Post by: Omie on February 24, 2006, 07:37:27 PM
colgate-union scoreless

SLU 1- Sux 0
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (after 1st period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 07:37:55 PM
Has Moulson been that bad this game?  He hasn't done much in scoring recently, as he seems to get "easy" PP goals.  But I have to say he's been very impressive moving the puck up along the boards.  That's not what we're looking for Moulson to excel in, I know, but he's been doing something.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 1 (1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:37:56 PM
[quote redhair34]SLU 1 Sucks 0 end of 1st[/quote]

"Goodbye 12.  Goodbye 13.  Hello fooooooooourth...."  B-]
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (after 1st period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:39:17 PM
[quote Dafatone]Has Moulson been that bad this game?  He hasn't done much in scoring recently, as he seems to get "easy" PP goals.  But I have to say he's been very impressive moving the puck up along the boards.  That's not what we're looking for Moulson to excel in, I know, but he's been doing something.[/quote]

He hasn't been bad at all.  Peole are fixated on him because he's not scoring, but that's because he has three opponents in his sweater every night.

Get pissed at the other guys.  They're not scoring either, and they're open.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (after 1st period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 07:41:26 PM
they aren't named moulson... they aren't suppose to be able to take over a game and secure a win... moulson is
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (1st period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 07:41:53 PM
Q-pac gets another...up 3-0 on Yale
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (after 1st period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 07:48:21 PM
Penalty over. We had pressure, but nothing on the scoreboard to show for it.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (after 1st period)
Post by: Omie on February 24, 2006, 07:49:31 PM
and Mckee isnt supposed to let goals in... the whole team needs to step it up

put the abbots together and the all freshman line, both have shown to be effective
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:49:44 PM
Solid "LGR!" chant in the background.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: ursusminor on February 24, 2006, 07:50:15 PM
Trotsky,

Re the first post. It's spelled MCWilliams, not McWilliams. Don't ask me why. :-)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:51:03 PM
Great game for the Freshman to log experience, anyway.

Kindret with a decent chance, there.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: French Rage on February 24, 2006, 07:53:42 PM
[quote Trotsky]Solid "LGR!" chant in the background.[/quote]

By who though?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Liz '05 on February 24, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
[quote French Rage][quote Trotsky]Solid "LGR!" chant in the background.[/quote]

By who though?[/quote]

does it matter? LGR is LGR
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:55:52 PM
Hvd 1 SLU 1
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 07:58:32 PM
Sounds like some big saves by McKee to keep it 2-0.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 07:59:11 PM
Col 1 UC 0
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: colo83 on February 24, 2006, 07:59:45 PM
At a serious risk of denigration,  this is the same team as last year except for Downs and Cook. perhaps they were more important than we knew.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:00:00 PM
~12:00 left in the second. Face-off in the cornell zone
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:00:25 PM
[quote colo83]At a serious risk of denigration,  this is the same team as last year except for Downs and Cook. perhaps they were more important than we knew.[/quote]

Don't forget Hynes.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 08:01:18 PM
or Knoepfli, Iggulden, and Varteresian
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:01:27 PM
Col 2 UC 0

This is getting bad.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:02:46 PM
Well, they're getting lots of "hack at it in the crease" chances.  Haven't quit.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:03:14 PM
SLU 2 Hvd 1
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 08:03:20 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote colo83]At a serious risk of denigration,  this is the same team as last year except for Downs and Cook. perhaps they were more important than we knew.[/quote]

Don't forget Hynes.[/quote]

Or Iggy, Vart and Knopfli...They're especially important when we're without 3 of our starting defensemen.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Jordan 04 on February 24, 2006, 08:03:46 PM
3-0.  Yay.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:03:51 PM
No Goal! Still 2-0!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:03:53 PM
Clk 2 Drt 2.  No defense, there, either.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Jordan 04 on February 24, 2006, 08:04:14 PM
Whew.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:05:01 PM
Why was it waved?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:05:16 PM
Tyler Aims (sp)/rpi  goal waived off!!!  
Phew. Looks like we are indeed in for a long weekend.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Pete Godenschwager on February 24, 2006, 08:05:35 PM
Cornell bdcst. still doesn't know why it was waved off
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Omie on February 24, 2006, 08:05:41 PM
where's the offense? i thought we only had d-men out
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: HeafDog on February 24, 2006, 08:05:46 PM
[quote Jordan 04]3-0.  Yay.[/quote]

I have to admit, this made me laugh.  ::laugh::   I don't know why, it was just the way you said it.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: scoop85 on February 24, 2006, 08:06:05 PM
You know things are going bad when the only good news is a waived-off goal while down 2-0.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: ursusminor on February 24, 2006, 08:06:09 PM
[quote Rita]Tyler Aims (sp)/rpi  goal waived off!!!  
Phew. Looks like we are indeed in for a long weekend.[/quote] Tyler Eaves, cousin of the BC Eaveses.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:07:03 PM
[quote ursaminor][quote Rita]Tyler Aims (sp)/rpi  goal waived off!!!  
Phew. Looks like we are indeed in for a long weekend.[/quote] Tyler Eaves, cousin of the BC Eaveses.[/quote]

Freddy Meyer is a hack.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: colo83 on February 24, 2006, 08:07:10 PM
I totally agree that Iggulden graduat made a diff/
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:07:20 PM
7:57 left to go in the second period. Still no word on why the goal was waived off.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Avash on February 24, 2006, 08:07:40 PM
Goal was the result of a hand pass
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:08:19 PM
Hvd 2 SLU 2.  Go Crimson (pauses to barf).
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:08:56 PM
Cornell to go on PP.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 08:09:15 PM
Waved off because of a hand pass.  Not quite sure how the hand pass factored into the play, but it did.

RPI announcers get some credit for admitting that the hand pass wave-off was legitimate.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:09:47 PM
pp upcoming. Come on guys... LGR!!!!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: HeafDog on February 24, 2006, 08:10:02 PM
[quote Omie]where's the offense? i thought we only had d-men out[/quote]

Holy crap.  
(---.tvlres.jcu.edu.au)
Queensland, Australia.  Could this be a new record for the farthest away listener?  (Pardon me if someone's already mentioned this.)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:10:26 PM
We need this.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 08:10:59 PM
we need a miracle
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Omie on February 24, 2006, 08:11:16 PM
hahaha Im abroad... its 11:15am here saturday
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:11:28 PM
Several shots on goal during this PP, by both Moulson and Bitz. RPI clears with 30 seconds to go in PP.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: scoop85 on February 24, 2006, 08:11:50 PM
Great puck control on the PP, but very little on net.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:12:20 PM
[quote ursaminor][quote Rita]Tyler Aims (sp)/rpi  goal waived off!!!  
Phew. Looks like we are indeed in for a long weekend.[/quote] Tyler Eaves, cousin of the BC Eaveses.[/quote]

Sorry. Our announcer guy did say he was part of the famous hockey family. However, my audio quality varies at work and it didn't sound like Eaves to me.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:13:02 PM
Qpc 4 Yal 0.  Break up the Deer Ticks.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:13:31 PM
4:11 left in the 2nd
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:20:05 PM
End of 2.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Omie on February 24, 2006, 08:20:54 PM
it sucks if we end up getting only one point from the capital district for the regular season
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (2nd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:21:45 PM
[quote Omie]it sucks if we end up getting only one point from the capital district for the regular season[/quote]

Let's not give up quite yet. We could still get 5.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2006, 08:21:53 PM
Plenty of time.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: colo83 on February 24, 2006, 08:27:47 PM
Does any one have the credit to get to Grand Forks. Could be an adventure however.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Chris 02 on February 24, 2006, 08:30:39 PM
Even from here in central Iowa, it's about a nine hour drive.  Minneapolis was much closer last year!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: colo83 on February 24, 2006, 08:33:44 PM
Don't want or afford a single  prop  eh;   not that I can1
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: jaybert on February 24, 2006, 08:35:33 PM
[quote colo83]Does any one have the credit to get to Grand Forks. Could be an adventure however.[/quote]

does us airways fly there?  I still have free flight vouchers to use from getting bumped to/from ithaca
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:35:44 PM
I did a little searching on Expedia.com and it looks like Northwest is the only airline that flies into Grand Forks. It is also a Friday-Saturday regional, so depending on the flight schedule, you may need to take Thursday as a travel day too. If they have to be sent west I'm pulling for Green Bay and a 6 hr drive from IN.

Damn NC$$. You would hope they would have the common sense to put the regional that is most difficult to get to as a Sat-Sun regional. It might help the "cents" part of things too.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:35:58 PM
According to the Cornell radio broadcaster, we have won 32 of 47 faceoffs tonight. Scott 4 of 5, Pegs 9 of 11 (or 13...not sure), etc.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:40:14 PM
RPI penalty.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:41:01 PM
Freshman with energy!!! the kids draw a pp.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 24, 2006, 08:43:26 PM
[quote colo83]Does any one have the credit to get to Grand Forks. Could be an adventure however.[/quote]
If we don't start winning games, we'll be spending that weekend in Ithaca.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 24, 2006, 08:43:30 PM
United flies to Fargo.  That's an option if you have US Air miles.

The other option I've been considering is flying into Winnipeg.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:46:14 PM
12:43 left. Good chances for the first line, but they can't find the back of the net.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:47:36 PM
Dartmouth up 3-2 over Clarkson.

Colgate up 2-0 over Union.

Both games in the third period, obviously.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 08:48:16 PM
clarkson needs to make a comeback...
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Omie on February 24, 2006, 08:49:05 PM
we need to make a comeback
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:51:09 PM
McKee a save on a 2-1.

then a few min later some pressure by abbott and McC.

~ 10 min left. face off RPI end.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 08:53:42 PM
~8:00 Minutes to go...
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 08:55:03 PM
So why wasn't that a goal?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:55:45 PM
Bitz puts one in...goal light on for about three seconds, but ref never indicated goal. No goal, of course.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 08:57:00 PM
Sounds like Bitz took a shot, goalie made save, Bitz got a rebound that he knocked home, but the play had been whistled dead before that.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 08:57:11 PM
6:08 left in the third
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 08:57:38 PM
So the ref blew the call?  Not sure how else there could be a rebound unless Lange didn't have it...

Odd that there wasn't much of an objection from Cornell, unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:00:04 PM
Penalty against Cornell, with 4:35 left in third. Hooking on Seminoff.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 09:00:43 PM
perfect time for a shorty
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 09:01:11 PM
Well, crap.

That's a spot you can't take a penalty in, and have to really let McKee do his best.  Down two, we can't afford the time lost by a penalty.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Omie on February 24, 2006, 09:01:29 PM
send McC
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: scoop85 on February 24, 2006, 09:02:07 PM
We have so many strong flurries, but our inability to finish is painful to listen to.

Now a penalty on Seminoff ... well, at least Lacrosse gets underway tomorrow ;-)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:02:26 PM
[quote Dafatone]So the ref blew the call?  Not sure how else there could be a rebound unless Lange didn't have it...

Odd that there wasn't much of an objection from Cornell, unless I'm missing something.[/quote]

I'm just inferring from the original radio call. There was talk of a shot by Bitz, and then him gathering up his own rebound and putting it in. There wasn't a whole lot of detail. Sorry.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 09:02:28 PM
Cam with a short-handed attempt, not successful.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:03:23 PM
We're back to full strength.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 09:03:24 PM
2:52 left.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dpperk29 on February 24, 2006, 09:03:55 PM
high sticking against RPI...
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:04:18 PM
McKee to the bench, and a penalty on RPI. Now or never.

McKee to stay on bench. 6 on 4, empty net.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 09:04:58 PM
I'd pull McKee here.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:04:59 PM
Cornell timeout.

Gary Glitter.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 09:05:39 PM
We don't have anything to lose by this. Good call.

LGR!!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 09:05:44 PM
[quote Dafatone]I'd pull McKee here.[/quote]

Considering how our offense has looked...definitely
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:06:02 PM
McKee in net, for now.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:06:42 PM
McKee off now. Carefoot on.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (end of 2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 09:07:22 PM
McKee still in net? even  though we have control of the puck. Now he's pulled out.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:08:00 PM
RPI hits our post. 32 seconds remaining in pp.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 09:09:15 PM
We get called for too many men?  Bah.

That's a lame call to make for anything short of us simply trying to sneak a seventh man on.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:09:19 PM
Too many men on the ice against Cornell. We had seven skaters out there. Nice.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 09:10:03 PM
and we probably still couldn't score :`(
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: andyw2100 on February 24, 2006, 09:10:36 PM
And this one ends, 2-0.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 09:11:14 PM
So, we do anything wrong?  This sounded like Lange was just a wall.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 24, 2006, 09:12:04 PM
[quote Dafatone]So, we do anything wrong?  This sounded like Lange was just a wall.[/quote]

Somehow I'm beginning to get skeptical that every single goalie we face is virtually a wall against us. Out offense is just pathetic on some nights.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Jocie on February 24, 2006, 09:14:52 PM
Lets Go Red!!!!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: ursusminor on February 24, 2006, 09:17:24 PM
[quote Jocie]Lets Go Red!!!![/quote] to Schenectady? ;-)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: redhair34 on February 24, 2006, 09:18:03 PM
[quote DeltaOne81][quote Dafatone]So, we do anything wrong?  This sounded like Lange was just a wall.[/quote]

Somehow I'm beginning to get skeptical that every single goalie we face is virtually a wall against us. Out offense is just pathetic on some nights.[/quote]

I don't think I've ever heard an announcer say the word "wide" as much as Jason did tonight (as in we shot it wide).
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 24, 2006, 09:18:24 PM
[quote DeltaOne81][quote Dafatone]So, we do anything wrong?  This sounded like Lange was just a wall.[/quote]

Somehow I'm beginning to get skeptical that every single goalie we face is virtually a wall against us. Out offense is just pathetic on some nights.[/quote]
Right.  RPI'd given up 2.7 goals per game and we manage one in two games.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Rita on February 24, 2006, 09:18:42 PM
[quote Dafatone]So, we do anything wrong?  This sounded like Lange was just a wall.[/quote]

I was wondering about this too. Hot goalie or lack of offense? We had chances, but we do not seem to have a "sniper", a true "GO_TO" guy. McC was filling that role earlier this season.

So the combination of having a relatively inexperienced D-core compared to recent years, and an offense that isn't potent, means are coming up short in a lot of games, like this one and the at Princeton game. I think at this point, I'm leaning towards a "not very explosive" offense.

edit: Maybe "pathetic" like Al suggested  would be a better description rather than "not explosive".
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Jocie on February 24, 2006, 09:22:58 PM
come on cornell lets win this
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Oat on February 24, 2006, 09:41:39 PM
Oh-no! We suckagain!  ::worry::

Think positive guys. If we lose tomorrow, then we might not get a first-round bye in the ECAC playoff. So we might get to see more of Cornell awesome hockey next weekend! Here in Lynah!! :-} Yay

Ok fine. Seriously, I am counting on our team to do some damage tomorrow against Union. We should expect to see significant improvement in every aspect of the team. I don't know why, but that's just my gut feeling.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Pace on February 24, 2006, 09:50:08 PM
[quote Oat]
Think positive guys. If we lose tomorrow, then we might not get a first-round bye in the ECAC playoff. [/quote]

I was actually thinking about this. I think I saw some posts earlier saying we were guaranteed a buy. However, both Sucks and SLU(t) are 2 points behind us. Since they don't play each other tomorrow, a win for both of them and a loss for us would have all three of us at 27pts a piece. How is it decided then who doesn't get the buy? Does it go by GF in the ECAC RS?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2
Post by: Dafatone on February 24, 2006, 09:50:23 PM
We have the first round bye clinched.

Umm... don't we?

Anyone know if we win a tiebreaker against harvard?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 24, 2006, 09:55:47 PM
[quote Pace][quote Oat]
Think positive guys. If we lose tomorrow, then we might not get a first-round bye in the ECAC playoff. [/quote]

I was actually thinking about this. I think I saw some posts earlier saying we were guaranteed a buy. However, both Sucks and SLU(t) are 2 points behind us. Since they don't play each other tomorrow, a win for both of them and a loss for us would have all three of us at 27pts a piece. How is it decided then who doesn't get the buy? Does it go by GF in the ECAC RS?[/quote]

First tie breaker is head to head in the group.

We're 1-0-1 against SLU and 1-1 against Harvard. Making us 2-1-1.

Harvard is 1-1 versus us and 2-0 versus SLU. Making them 3-1.

SLU is 0-1-1 versus us and 0-2 versus Harvard. Making them 0-3-1.

Harvard would get 3rd, we'd get 4th, SLU 5th. We'd get the last bye..


Btw, its "bye", not "buy".
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Pace on February 24, 2006, 10:01:07 PM
[quote DeltaOne81][quote Pace][quote Oat]
Think positive guys. If we lose tomorrow, then we might not get a first-round bye in the ECAC playoff. [/quote]

I was actually thinking about this. I think I saw some posts earlier saying we were guaranteed a buy. However, both Sucks and SLU(t) are 2 points behind us. Since they don't play each other tomorrow, a win for both of them and a loss for us would have all three of us at 27pts a piece. How is it decided then who doesn't get the buy? Does it go by GF in the ECAC RS?[/quote]

First tie breaker is head to head in the group.

We're 1-0-1 against SLU and 1-1 against Harvard. Making us 2-1-1.

Harvard is 1-1 versus us and 2-0 versus SLU. Making them 3-1.

SLU is 0-1-1 versus us and 0-2 versus Harvard. Making them 0-3-1.

Harvard would get 3rd, we'd get 4th, SLU 5th. We'd get the last bye..


Btw, its "bye", not "buy".[/quote]


Thanks for clearing that up, Delta.

Not being a native English speaker, what is the origin of it being "bye" and not "buy"?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 24, 2006, 10:12:35 PM
[quote Pace][/quote]
Thanks for clearing that up, Delta.

Not being a native English speaker, what is the origin of it being "bye" and not "buy"?[/quote]

Using a little bit of guess work and a little bit of Merriam Webster.com - it says that "bye" in the sports meaning is an alternation of "by".

Now here's my guessing part: that would make sense as far as you get to "go by" (skip/pass) the first round (or two, etc). Calling it a "by" probably didn't seem intelligent enough, so it changed to "bye". And its always easier to add an 'e' on the end in English than to stick a 'u in the middle :)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Give My Regards on February 24, 2006, 10:15:17 PM
[quote DeltaOne81]
First tie breaker is head to head in the group.

We're 1-0-1 against SLU and 1-1 against Harvard. Making us 2-1-1.

Harvard is 1-1 versus us and 2-0 versus SLU. Making them 3-1.

SLU is 0-1-1 versus us and 0-2 versus Harvard. Making them 0-3-1.

Harvard would get 3rd, we'd get 4th, SLU 5th. We'd get the last bye.[/quote]

Your seedings are correct, but the procedure in a three-way tie is a bit different.  As noted above, Harvard gets the third seed based on head-to-head record among the three teams.  The process then starts over from the beginning to break the (now) fourth-place tie between Cornell and St. Lawrence.  Cornell wins this one based on head-to-head.  The starting-over step doesn't make a difference here, but it's not hard to come up with a scenario in which it would change the order of the seedings.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2
Post by: Give My Regards on February 24, 2006, 10:24:57 PM
[quote Dafatone]Anyone know if we win a tiebreaker against harvard?[/quote]

If the tie is with just Harvard (for third place), Cornell wins on the second tiebreaker, record against top 4 -- which would mean record against Dartmouth and Colgate, the top two teams in this case.  Cornell would be 3-1, Harvard 2-2.  If St. Lawrence makes it a three-way tie, then Cornell gets seeded behind Harvard. (see above)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 24, 2006, 10:27:59 PM
[quote fenwick]
Your seedings are correct, but the procedure in a three-way tie is a bit different.  As noted above, Harvard gets the third seed based on head-to-head record among the three teams.  The process then starts over from the beginning to break the (now) fourth-place tie between Cornell and St. Lawrence.  Cornell wins this one based on head-to-head.  The starting-over step doesn't make a difference here, but it's not hard to come up with a scenario in which it would change the order of the seedings.[/quote]

I thought you only started over if there was still a tie while knocking one off.

I.e. if Harvard won but Cornell and SLU tied in the H2H category, Harvard would get third, and instead of going on to record against top 4, you would start over with Cornell/SLU H2H.

But if the 3 way tiebreaker separates a 1/2/3 on its own then no reason to start over.

But I could be wrong :)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2
Post by: Chris 02 on February 24, 2006, 10:28:07 PM
Post moved to the postgame thread.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Give My Regards on February 24, 2006, 10:47:59 PM
[quote DeltaOne81]I thought you only started over if there was still a tie while knocking one off.

I.e. if Harvard won but Cornell and SLU tied in the H2H category, Harvard would get third, and instead of going on to record against top 4, you would start over with Cornell/SLU H2H.

But if the 3 way tiebreaker separates a 1/2/3 on its own then no reason to start over.

But I could be wrong :)[/quote]

Nope, they always start over with the remaining teams.  The idea is not to give a team a higher seeding in a three-way tie than they would have gotten if the tie were between only two teams.  Of course, it doesn't work in this case -- Cornell would beat Harvard in a two-way tie but gets seeded behind the Crimson in a three-way.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: billhoward on February 25, 2006, 09:02:25 AM
[quote Al DeFlorio][quote DeltaOne81][quote Dafatone]So, we do anything wrong?  This sounded like Lange was just a wall.[/quote]
Somehow I'm beginning to get skeptical that every single goalie we face is virtually a wall against us. Out offense is just pathetic on some nights.[/quote]
Right.  RPI'd given up 2.7 goals per game and we manage one in two games.[/quote]
a) Lange was good
b) It seemed as if we had two kinds of shots, those just wide (as mentioned on radio) and those right dead center on goal, where Lange was positioned.

McKee had one awesome save 8 minutes into the third. The puck was airborne, headed straight up after a blocked shot, Mckee turned around thinking it was behind, lost sight, it came down about 20 feet in front of the net in traffic, there must have been a pattern he saw even if not the shot coming, and McKee reflexively stuck out his left skate and pad and that's where the shot hit. Maybe lucky, maybe good. Come playoff time, he's going to be an asset.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2 (3rd period)
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2006, 10:07:46 AM
[quote fenwick]Nope, they always start over with the remaining teams.  The idea is not to give a team a higher seeding in a three-way tie than they would have gotten if the tie were between only two teams.[/quote]

That may be the idea, but if the three-way tie is caused by A>B, B>C, C>A, and A wins the first pass tiebreaker, then they have indeed been placed higher than C than they would have if it had only been a two-way tie.

It is totally arbitrary that if you get a first pass rank ordering of, say, A, C, B, you wouldn't just stick with it.  Having multiple passes is as silly as, say, using the first pass to determine the *worst* finisher, and then going up the chain with the next passes.  In fact, that would make more sense, since you'd get a supposedly "better" ordering at the top, which one would think would matter more.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2
Post by: andyw2100 on February 25, 2006, 11:49:40 AM
Three weeks ago tonight, after beating Colgate in Hamilton, did anyone here think that less than three weeks later we'd be discussing tiebreakers for fourth place?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2
Post by: redhair34 on February 25, 2006, 11:52:43 AM
[quote andyw2100]Two weeks ago tonight, after beating Colgate in Hamilton, did anyone here think that less than two weeks later we'd be discussing tiebreakers for fourth place?[/quote]

Gosh no...watching McCutcheon score the GWG at Starr was definitely the highlight of the season so far.  If our team can get back to the level we were playing that weekend, we'll be in great shape.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 RPI 2
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2006, 05:39:50 PM
[quote andyw2100]Three weeks ago tonight, after beating Colgate in Hamilton, did anyone here think that less than three weeks later we'd be discussing tiebreakers for fourth place?[/quote]

Did anyone think 75% of the on-the-ice-time of the defensemen would be in sick bay?

If anybody has a tradition of winning the ECACs from a non-pole position, it's Cornell.