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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: CowbellGuy on October 25, 2002, 03:23:32 PM

Title: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: CowbellGuy on October 25, 2002, 03:23:32 PM
As you can see above, there's a new option to see new posts. It was requested a long time ago and got it to work for another project so I ported it over. Should work for logged in users as well as cookies for non-logged in users. Sometimes you have to reload the page for it to send the correct info, but it seems to work fairly well. Let me know if there are problems.

Edit: Ditto for the number of views for each message.

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: jtwcornell91 on October 26, 2002, 12:11:48 PM
Excellent enhancement, Age.  Thanks! B-]

Title: Some people are never satisfied
Post by: nshapiro on October 28, 2002, 09:09:14 AM
Age,

Since you are now tracking which posts are new since someone's last visit, could you possibly put a "new" tag on the far right of the title line for each post that is new.

This would make it easy to scroll down to posts the user has not yet seen, without having to read or check the dates of each post.

Title: Re: Some people are never satisfied
Post by: CowbellGuy on October 28, 2002, 09:17:21 AM
Huh? Wha? Doesn't it already do that? At least in threaded view...

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: nshapiro on October 28, 2002, 09:40:55 AM
could it do that in the flat view as well?

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: jy3 on October 29, 2002, 09:29:31 AM
age
just noticed that the red (border etc) changes to darker red after u get off the main page. was this planned?
just curious :-)
thanks for the great work

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: jy3 on October 29, 2002, 09:29:49 AM
ps
actually after i post it is dark on the main page too

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 29, 2002, 09:32:59 AM
Mine's the same way.  Almost looks like...shudder...crimson. ::help::

Have we been hacked??

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: CowbellGuy on October 29, 2002, 09:39:56 AM
Well, I was just going for a less retina-piercing shade of red. Crimson similarity didn't quite strike me until you mentioned it though. Lemme try that again...

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 29, 2002, 10:04:28 AM
Better now.:-)

Agree with the retina impact observation.

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: rhovorka on October 29, 2002, 04:02:13 PM
I'm with Neil...I'm sure the "see new posts" feature is great for threaded view but for those of us who prefer flat view, it's pretty useless.  All I'd like is a "new" flag next to each new message.
Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: CowbellGuy on October 29, 2002, 04:11:22 PM
Unfortunately, its design does not lend itself to that without massive intervention. I looked at the code for a while yesterday and couldn't find an obvious, simple way to do it, so I'll try to make it happen at some point, but it's not a quick, easy request.

Title: Flat vs. Threaded
Post by: crodger1 on October 29, 2002, 05:35:45 PM
I used to be a flat view kind of guy, but this see new posts thing has me using the threaded view now.  I find myself scanning for those new messages much less now.

Keep up the good work, Age... this site keeps getting better and better.

LGR!
Title: Another new "feature"
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 01, 2002, 07:57:54 AM
In the last week or so the "new" label on thread names persists even after I look at the new postings on the thread (in "threaded" view).  It disappears eventually, but after it seemingly "thinks about it" awhile.

Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 01, 2002, 08:13:58 AM
Sometimes you need to hit reload.

Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 01, 2002, 08:29:02 AM
It's a browser bug. I never see that with IE, but it happens occasionally with Mozilla/Netscape 6+ (on Macs anyway).

Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: crodger1 on November 01, 2002, 10:30:09 AM
Also shows up that way with the browser Opera.
Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: Beeeej on November 01, 2002, 05:41:09 PM
...and on IE 5.1.4 for Mac.

Beeeej

Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: tml5 on November 03, 2002, 03:35:06 PM
Yeah, it happens periodically on IE 5.5 with win2k, but I suspect it'll clear right up if/when I ever get around to updating to IE6.  I'd go Mozilla but there are other irritating bugs, like the lack of back/forward buttons at random times (I haven't figured out the pattern, but sometimes they just don't appear - and no, it's not from opening a new browser window).
Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 04, 2002, 09:48:02 AM
I've never seen it happen on IE 5 for Mac. Odd

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: Chris Moberg \'79 on November 04, 2002, 10:34:38 AM
Age,
A conferencing system popular on many of the sites I belong to is vBulletin (by Jelsoft).  Come to think of it, UHSCO uses it too.  From what I understand, it allows for quite a bit of customization and is pretty cheap.  In particular, it has the flat view go to NEW.  You can go to NEW From the thread head in collapsed view, or from within the exploded flat view.

Chris
Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: jeh25 on November 04, 2002, 12:35:32 PM
Chris,

I believe that Age protyped a version of eLF using vBulletin and decided that phorum was a better choice.

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: Chris Moberg \'79 on November 04, 2002, 12:46:29 PM
Ah, I was not aware of that.  As often plagues a software selection, there is know clear cut superior product in all regards.

Even with a good tool, a site can be screwed up.  So kudos to Age for doing a bang up good job.

Chris
Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: cmoberg on November 04, 2002, 12:51:06 PM
One of the things I like about vBulletin is the ease with which you can make edits to your posts.  Like I need to do right now.  I double posted the BU ticket info.  Two threads running, with identical root content.  ARGH

I a quick look I could not find the tool to remove the second thread.

Chris
Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: cquinn on November 04, 2002, 12:54:41 PM
Also occurs on IE6 with WinNT and Win2k.
Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 04, 2002, 01:12:03 PM
[Q]I a quick look I could not find the tool to remove the second thread.[/Q]
I don't think eLF has a tool to remove posts, only to edit them, assuming you're logged in. You could then edit it down to nothing, but it would still remain as a blank post. I think only Age can entirely remove a post, which I remember from an infamous situation last season.

-Fred
Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: cmoberg on November 04, 2002, 01:27:18 PM
That is the conclusion that I came to. I have asked Age to remove the second post.  

This situation brings to mind an area for functional improvement. Starting a thread with a name that exactly matches an existing thread should raise a red flag.  

Chris
Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 04, 2002, 01:30:43 PM
The reason you can't delete a post is because (unlike vB) a topic is truly threaded, and if there are replies to a message or sub-thread, they would be orphaned if the parent message were deleted.

Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: cmoberg on November 04, 2002, 01:40:09 PM
Understood.  But in the case where there are no children, it seems reasonable to allow the author to delete the thread (single root node).  But the better answer is to not allow the double post in the first place.
Title: Re: New eLF Feature (make that Features)
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 04, 2002, 01:41:37 PM
For what it's worth, it's supposed to check for that. Might not apply to new threads though.

Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: Susan Newman 08 on November 04, 2002, 03:45:13 PM
I've had it happen using Neoplanet on WinXP

Title: Re: Another new "feature"
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 06, 2002, 02:03:52 PM
Problem should be fixed now. (Let me know if it's not)