Having just gotten back from my first trip to Lynah in 2-1/2 years, I have to say I'm pretty damn disappointed by the lack of enthusiasm of sections A and B (at least with the limited attendance probably affected somewhat by break).
On Friday, I stood in section E, and it was great: D, E, and F seemed to have their act together and cheered pretty much in unison, and often. Some good clever cheers and LOTS of heckling of Pesony from that end, too.
On Saturday, I started off in A about two rows behind Age, and dayummm, was it quiet whenever the Pep Band wasn't (rightly) shattering my eardrums. Very little cheering in general, anemic remote control goalie, precious little heckling, primarily reserved for "Clitsome". :) Maybe I'm not loud enough, but I wasn't able to get anything going. :P
So I went back to E for the third period. Loads better. :)
I have to say that the only real downside to sitting in E is that I was too far away from the band to hear it clearly, so I was embarrassingly off by almost a full step on the Gary Glitter "1-2-1234" deal (which no one else seems to do anymore, anyway). I really wish the band were either near the red line or at the east end, so the sound would reach the entire student section instead of being blocked by 1700 standing bodies and the press box. Maybe with the renovations...
But I gave in on all the cheer changes I think are downgrades ("diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeee!" and "See ya.......you goon!" come to mind) and achieved inner peace: better for all of us to be cheering the same thing than to get self-righteous about it.
Anyway, I had a great time, yadda yadda yadda. Nothing beats going home.
Cheers,
Kyle
Section B has the occassional flash of brilliance. Section A has been awful all season, half empty more often than not and without any personalities to lead cheers. I have sworn off the "(school) sucks" cheer for the rest of my life because I hear it so much and it sounds so asinine.
Section B was much better on Saturday night. The issue was actually more frat/sorority rush than it being the end of break. I thought the crowd was excellent on Saturday actually and the best it has been since the MSU weekend. We started some really good cheers last night too that caught on by the end. The "blue line/red line, idiot cheer" was particularly good (pointing the at the blueline or redline depending on it being icing or offsides and then pointing at the guy responsible and calling him idiot).
[quote calgARI '07]The issue was actually more frat/sorority rush than it being the end of break.[/quote]
I think rush in conjunction with people not getting back from break led to a pretty skimpy student section. Section D was extremely thin both games (especially in the back few rows). It's a shame we had to host the North Country teams this past weekend. Overall I've been fairly pleased with the crowd this year. I agree with you that the MSU crowd was the best of the season--which is odd considering the crowd should improve with "experience." Maybe the poor performance during the Capital District weekend quelled some of the fair-weather enthusiasm. I think the best crowds are still ahead of us (Colgate, Dartmouthl, Harvard, ECAC Playoffs).
I agree with Section A about the "insert school" SUCKS cheer. If everyone of those cheers was replaced with, "Lets Go Red!"(which at least in my mind NEVER gets old), I would be a happy man. Also, I've said it before and I'll say it again "Safety School" is the lamest cheer. It's mildly amusing against Harvard, Yale and Princeton, but against the likes of St. Lawrence, Q-pac, RIT, Niagra, etc. it just sounds snobish and bratty. Instead of "Safety School" why not just "Michigan Rejects" etc. (against MSU)? It's at least a little more creative and school specific.
Hey Kyle, glad to hear you enjoyed your trip. D, E, F, and G have been doing really well all season. A large, large group of true undergrad Faithful ended up there after the stampede fiasco. Those sections are filled with students sporting the Faithful T-shirts, so the good fans are easy to find there. As previously pointed out, the top several rows of A have been >50% empty for many games, which is sad because the band would love to let more people in. B has had its good nights and bad nights. And rush really did cut down on numbers this weekend, though I don't understand why they would purposely schedule against home hockey.
[quote krose]I have to say that the only real downside to sitting in E is that I was too far away from the band to hear it clearly, so I was embarrassingly off by almost a full step on the Gary Glitter "1-2-1234" deal (which no one else seems to do anymore, anyway). I really wish the band were either near the red line or at the east end, so the sound would reach the entire student section instead of being blocked by 1700 standing bodies and the press box. Maybe with the renovations...
[/quote]
I agree with you for acoustical reasons, but I'd hate to see a solidly reliable group of hecklers moved so far from the opposing goalie. There have also been several threads discussing the "advantage" of having us near the opposing locker room, though that may change with the renovations.
[quote Section A Banshee]Section B has the occassional flash of brilliance. Section A has been awful all season, half empty more often than not and without any personalities to lead cheers. I have sworn off the "(school) sucks" cheer for the rest of my life because I hear it so much and it sounds so asinine.[/quote]
section A just misses me, that's all :)
[quote Bryan '06]And rush really did cut down on numbers this weekend, though I don't understand why they would purposely schedule against home hockey.
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[sorority girl]
No sorority schedules against hockey, per se, as rush parties end in the late afternoon. Meetings about potential new members may take up hockey time, but I know last year, when I missed the Friday night game, it's because I was so tired from nightly parties and mentally exhausted from talking to and trying to remember everything about 15-65 girls per day and hoarse from trying to talk over 200 people for 8 hours and in pain from a week of very high heels that I simply forgot it was Friday and 7 pm. Rush sucks. I'd say I also suck for missing the game, but I'm a bigger hockey fan than most sorority girls and I understand how others would voluntarily skip it.
[/sorority girl]
Fraternity rush contacts were from 7-9. We couldn't leave our dorms on penalty of not receiving bids. I gave my ticket away instead.
[quote redhair34]I agree with you that the MSU crowd was the best of the season...[/quote]I take full credit. :-D
(And - shameless plug - if anyone can help me find tickets for the Harvard and Dartmouth games, I will do my best to make sure that A will be as good the last home weekend as it was the first home weekend. ::help::)
[quote jmh30]
(And - shameless plug - if anyone can help me find tickets for the Harvard and Dartmouth games, I will do my best to make sure that A will be as good the last home weekend as it was the first home weekend. ::help::)[/quote]
ditto for this for me...
games over break/at the end of break are always a tough draw. it would be a great community service if they did the "donate your tickets to local hockey kids" again. in an organized wayl...
[q]I simply forgot it was Friday and 7 pm.[/q]You actually forgot that it was time for a Cornell hockey game? How is that possible? You are hereby banished and excommunicated!!!!!!!! :-P :-D :-P
[quote KeithK][q]I simply forgot it was Friday and 7 pm.[/q]You actually forgot that it was time for a Cornell hockey game? How is that possible? You are hereby banished and excommunicated!!!!!!!! :-P :-D :-P[/quote]
You kid, but I never missed a game. In fact, I can probably count the few for which I wasn't there by the start of warmups on two hands (in unary).
Oh, that's right, I had no life. :)
Kyle
[quote KeithK] You are hereby banished and excommunicated!!!!!!!! :-P :-D :-P[/quote]
I live in Pensacola, Florida. Do you think I didn't already know this? ;-)
Once I actually got season tickets (ashamed to admit that I was a grad student by then) I never missed a home game for the remainder of my time on the hill (5 years). I can only remember one occasion where I wasn't there for warmups, but it could have been a couple of times.
[q]Oh, that's right, I had no life.[/q]I was a Ph.D. student. 'Nuff said.
I missed exactly one home game in my four years: a 0-7 loss to Providence on Nov 28, 1993. Looking at that score, maybe I didn't miss it after all (borrowing punchline from "Office Space"). :-P
I think the "Section O Sucks" is WAY overused this year.
Against Clarkson, yeah, definitly bring that one out. But against Niagara, Union, US 18 under team... definitly not neccessary to hear that one 10 times a game!
[quote Doug '08]I think the "Section O Sucks" is WAY overused this year.
Against Clarkson, yeah, definitly bring that one out. But against Niagara, Union, US 18 under team... definitly not neccessary to hear that one 10 times a game![/quote]
I second that.
[quote JasonN95]I missed exactly one home game in my four years: a 0-7 loss to Providence on Nov 28, 1993. Looking at that score, maybe I didn't miss it after all (borrowing punchline from "Office Space"). :-P[/quote]
"Peter, it looks like you've been missing a lot of work lately"
"I wouldn't say I've been missing it, Bob"
Well, I missed the games over winter break, but that was about it - although I did come up for a Vermont/Dartmouth winter break pair one year. I even skipped the housing lottery and did proxy one year because my number's time conflicted with a hockey game - maybe even playoff.
The only game I missed while I was in Ithaca, was Dartmouth, in early 2000 - that would be "the Nick Boucher Classic"... for some reason it was pushed to a weekday night (something to do with the elephant walk, maybe?), and I had my first class of a writing seminar that night. Hard to skip the first of a 10 person discussion class. And, well, I was a freshman.
[q]Hard to skip the first of a 10 person discussion class. And, well, I was a freshman.[/q]Well, if I could regularly sleep in one of my writing seminars you could probably have skipped one with a good reason (hockey). It's all about priorities and conveying them to your instructor (cue Jeff Kahn's exam story...)
But you were only a freshman.
If people that are in the student sections don't like the cheers being led, then start ones that you want to hear. The group of like 10 or 15 people in the middle of B start the vast majority of cheers but we beg other people to start them more. I almost collapsed on Saturday night from screaming so much. The problem is that not a lot of people in A/B are cheering much less starting cheers. When Lynah is silent on a stoppage, and nothing is happening, often I will just start yelling Section O sucks to give a tad bit of variety to the constant "insert sucks" (even though I love that cheer and don't think there could ever be too much). I think it's funny to constantly be ripping on/recognizing the visiting fans even if there are none just for the sake of getting A/B a pulse from time to time. Also as I said earlier, the pointing at the blue line/red line and then the culprit for offsides/icing and saying "idiot" was really funny and caught on pretty well. The Kill Red Kill cheer has also picked up a lot and can safely be said that it has been added to the rotation.
Listening to the web feeds, I noticed a big improvement in the fans for the Clarkson game over the SLU game. The fans didn't sound too bad for SLU, but they sounded very loud and energized for the Clarkson game. I know Clarkson is a bigger, long-term rival, but with SLU's spot in the standings and the PWR going into the weekend, I figured that game would be very energized as well. Not a knock, I just hope we can keep up the volume I was hearing on the Clarkson feed.
Personally, I think the (insert school) sucks, section O sucks, etc. are trite, boring, and overused. They have their place occasionally during each game, but we pride ourselves on originality and can certainly do better. At the ECAC's last year, I was sitting next to a couple of guys who were from Albany and there simply as good, college hockey fans. They loved our cheers like "Our team's sleeping", but weren't very impressed by the general "sucks" cheers being used over and over again. I'm glad the students are coming up with new ideas like the "Kill Red Kill" cheer. I am confident they can implement more good ideas like this to replace some of the recent, no longer applicable original ones like "Hey, Baby".
yeah...Baby (when are ya gonna KILL someone?") was a "goon"...he should have been recruited by Clarkson...lol.
It goes in cycles. Some classes, as a whole, just seem to be more imaginative than others. Maybe the "talented tenth" really fluctuates between 5% and 15%.
For the past couple of seasons, the students have been fairly unimaginative (and so the boilerplate and cruder cheers have taken over). This has happened before (mid 80's, mid 90's). It will pick up again.
[Q]"Our team's sleeping"[/Q]
Cheer of the weekend, without a doubt. :-D You know it's good when the cheer is inconsistent cause people keep laughing in the middle of it.
Right up there with other recent classics like, "Hey Harvard, all 6 of your jerk fans called..."
[quote Trotsky]It goes in cycles. Some classes, as a whole, just seem to be more imaginative than others. Maybe the "talented tenth" really fluctuates between 5% and 15%.
For the past couple of seasons, the students have been fairly unimaginative (and so the boilerplate and cruder cheers have taken over). This has happened before (mid 80's, mid 90's). It will pick up again.[/quote]
For example, I feel we had a pretty good crew in A/B that graduated in '04.
[quote DeltaOne81][Q]"Our team's sleeping"[/Q]
Cheer of the weekend, without a doubt. :-D You know it's good when the cheer is inconsistent cause people keep laughing in the middle of it.[/quote]
Maybe even cheer of the year. That was definitely a classic. We have created some great cheers to use on a regular basis, but it is tough to beat one that comes out of the blue like that. I told all of my friends and family about that one when I came home. Kudos to whomever actually thought of it.
Now that we have had over half a season to evaluate the effects of this year's ticket "line", does anyone have any comments on how it has affected the unity, frequency, and volume of the cheering this year? I know some rightfully pissed-off students predicted dire results after the original fiasco, but as the season has gone on it sounds like there may have actually been some benefits from spreading some of the truly Faithful around.
[quote cth95][quote DeltaOne81][Q]"Our team's sleeping"[/Q]
Cheer of the weekend, without a doubt. :-D You know it's good when the cheer is inconsistent cause people keep laughing in the middle of it.[/quote]
Maybe even cheer of the year. That was definitely a classic. We have created some great cheers to use on a regular basis, but it is tough to beat one that comes out of the blue like that. I told all of my friends and family about that one when I came home. Kudos to whomever actually thought of it.[/quote]
For this year I'd have to nominate..."Live Free DIE!" :-D
"The old man in the mountain called, he said 'aaaaahhhhhh!!'"
[quote cth95][quote DeltaOne81][Q]"Our team's sleeping"[/Q]
Cheer of the weekend, without a doubt. :-D You know it's good when the cheer is inconsistent cause people keep laughing in the middle of it.[/quote]
Maybe even cheer of the year. That was definitely a classic. We have created some great cheers to use on a regular basis, but it is tough to beat one that comes out of the blue like that. I told all of my friends and family about that one when I came home. Kudos to whomever actually thought of it.[/quote]
I wasn't at the game -- what was the meaning of that cheer?
[Q]"The old man in the mountain called, he said 'aaaaahhhhhh!!"[/Q]
That's a great one. I lived less than an hour from Franconia,NH in VT, when the Old Man fell. It was definitely a shock when, after about 3 cloudy, rainy days, all of a sudden there was no Old Man when the skies cleared again. There was a pile of rubble at the bottom of the cliff, but no one had heard or seen the rocks fall.
[quote HeafDog][quote cth95][quote DeltaOne81][Q]"Our team's sleeping"[/Q]
Cheer of the weekend, without a doubt. :-D You know it's good when the cheer is inconsistent cause people keep laughing in the middle of it.[/quote]
Maybe even cheer of the year. That was definitely a classic. We have created some great cheers to use on a regular basis, but it is tough to beat one that comes out of the blue like that. I told all of my friends and family about that one when I came home. Kudos to whomever actually thought of it.[/quote]
I wasn't at the game -- what was the meaning of that cheer?[/quote]
Cornell and Vermont played in the early game, while Harvard and Colgate went to a long overtime in the late game. That got Harvard good and tired for the championship the following day.
I'm sure the Old Man maintenance crew was the same speedy group that ran the restaurant we ate in before the game that didn't happen.
[quote Section A Banshee][quote DeltaOne81]"Our team's sleeping"[/quote]
Cornell and Vermont played in the early game, while Harvard and Colgate went to a long overtime in the late game. That got Harvard good and tired for the championship the following day.[/quote]
Not just a overtime, but 2... nearly 3:
http://www.uscho.com/box/?date=20050318&vis=col&home=hu&gender=m
Crazy third period too. Colgate tied it at 1 0:27 in, and Harvard took the lead twice, 2-1, and 3-2, only to be tied with 0:45 afterwards both times.
[Q]"Our team's sleeping"[/Q]
[Q] I wasn't at the game -- what was the meaning of that cheer?[/Q]
We had already beaten UVM 3-0 fairly easily in the early game (2005 ECAC's). Harvard and Colgate were in a really tough battle, with both teams really taking it to each other throughout the game. There were still more Cornell fans (at least more vocal) then there seemed to be fans cheering for either of these teams. Of course, we were all cheering for the teams to beat the crap out of each other so whichever team won would be dead for our game. We never figured we would get our hopes answered with multiple overtimes, but whenever a team scored we would all cheer for the team that was still down. I think we cheered louder than the Colgate fans when Colgate tied it twice in the 3rd period. I think sometime late in the 1st overtime (maybe early in the 2nd) the cheer came up. I think it was even later than 11:00 PM. Absolutely awesome. :-D
[quote Ack]I'm sure the Old Man maintenance crew was the same speedy group that ran the restaurant we ate in before the game that didn't happen.[/quote]
Ack, I'm hurt that they are insulting the current students creativity after our many hilarious cheers, and my new favorite your revolutionary war musket comment.
[quote cth95]I think sometime late in the 1st overtime (maybe early in the 2nd) the cheer came up. I think it was even later than 11:00 PM. Absolutely awesome. :-D[/quote]
I would curious so I looked it up :)
Friday, March 18, 2005
Colgate (CLG) vs Harvard (HAR)
Non-Conference Game
ECAC Hockey League Semifinal (Albany, NY)
Final Score: Harvard 4, Colgate 3 - 2OT
New Records: Harvard 21-8-3, Colgate 24-10-3
Referee: Alex Dell
Assistant Referees: Scott Whittemore, Chip MacDonald
Attendance: 7580
Start Time: 7:38 pm End Time: 11:42 pm Total Time: 4:04
Source: http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0405/boxes/mclghar1.m18
[quote Jacob '06]
Ack, I'm hurt that they are insulting the current students creativity after our many hilarious cheers, and my new favorite your revolutionary war musket comment.[/quote]
Revolutionary war musket comment?
[quote Ack]"The old man in the mountain called, he said 'aaaaahhhhhh!!'"[/quote]
Who remembers what the other two (three?) parts of that cheer were? It was definitely a very good one, and ought to be remembered for future years.
Yeah, it certainly didn't hurt our cause...by the beginning of the second overtime the teams looked like they could barely stand
[quote Liz '05][quote Jacob '06]
Ack, I'm hurt that they are insulting the current students creativity after our many hilarious cheers, and my new favorite your revolutionary war musket comment.[/quote]
Revolutionary war musket comment?[/quote]
"Hey _____, you shoot like a Revolutionary War musket- very inaccurately!"
Well Clarkson's fan section kept up with their "Here we go Clarkson..." for basically the whole game.
To mix things up from the "Section O sucks" some friends and I tried for the "get a new cheer" with the subsequent claps but it ended up being just our little section in the first few rows of A carrying it on. I don't know what the deal is with the rest of the section, it seems like too many people in A and B are just listening to other people not joining in. I know we can hear Ari and his group in the middle of B but most of the time we have to really listen hard to determine what is being said because they seem to be the only ones yelling.
And not like it hasn't been mentioned many times before, but people really need to show up on time. Section A has been dreadfully empty all year, and routinely has people showing up at 8 to try and fill in seats in the first five rows. I think we could understand a few seats in front of the band being empty for the obvious, but beautiful noise, but seats on the glass being empty into the second period? That just makes us look awfully disinterested.
[Q]"Hey _____, you shoot like a Revolutionary War musket- very inaccurately!"[/Q]
Are you actually able to enunciate that enmass? That would be hard to hear clearly even if only one person said it. It is a clever idea, but it seems like a lot of syllables for a group cheer. Maybe "Hey ___, You aim like a Scud missile! Off Target!". Same idea, but more concise. 11 vs. 21 syllables not counting the name.
[quote Liz '05][quote Ack]"The old man in the mountain called, he said 'aaaaahhhhhh!!'"[/quote]
Who remembers what the other two (three?) parts of that cheer were? It was definitely a very good one, and ought to be remembered for future years.[/quote]
There was "Keggy called", "I'm tapped".
I cant remember the third. I want to say it was something to do with Daniel Webster, but that may have been other cheers.
Or it may have been Jeb Bartlet related, since he was from New Hampshire.
Mike would know best, he put together most of it.
I was in A and didn't join in on "get a new cheer" because, frankly, who are we to talk?
Hugh Jessimen called: he said: BYE
My favorite was: Hey Harvard/Colgate, its 11 o'clock, do you know where your pillow is?
When harvard won it, there was minor harvard celebration, and then the whole rink was suddenly filled with 'LGR! LGR! LGR!' and you could just see the harvard fans getting very said as they remembered whose fans would be around tomorrow night too.
The next morning, my friend Jenn encounted Ryan Lannon in the pool of her hotel in d-town albany, and he begged the cornell fans to be nice to him.
No, it's just been me or a second voice. Thanks for the modern version though.
I see your point, but our whole idea was to change up the night's cheers so we could have a new one besides the standard and overused "Section O sucks"
Like Ari said, after too much cheering by yourself you are gonna get tired of it and little light headed to boot.
Keep thinking of good ideas. The only reason I thought of that is because you already came up with the basic idea. The biggest thing is to make them short and sweet so they work in a crowd setting.
I forgot about the "LGR" cheers after their game. I can't imagine how much that must suck to have won such a big game and, instead of hearing your fans going nuts, have to listen to fans rooting for a team that didn't even play in that game.
Damn, we're good. ::rock::
Long and complicated is great for one or two people to do at a stoppage when it's gotten pretty quiet. A really clever one can sometimes get half the rink laughing their asses off, including some of the players.
I think what would help the most would be a little bit of research/dissemination of some good cheers before the game. I was in G for the Clarkson game, and as soon as we saw Clitsome's name, we were trying to come up with a taunt that would be at least SOMEWHAT appropriate (and not get us kicked out). Unfortunately, we didn't come up with a good one that caught on.
Also - with McNulty breaking his stick the night before in a fit of rage after losing, we were contemplating a cheer of "break your stick" when things weren't going his way. However, we didn't think most people would get it.
As someone said, the Faithful are all spread out, and people on this board are sitting in all different sections. If we looked up some player info and posted some cheers on here a day or two before the game, then some people in each section would know what was up, and hopefully be able to pass it on to the others, either by cheering it themselves or by explaining why something like "break your stick" is funny. The impromptu cheers can be great, but other sections can't pick up on them if they have no idea what's being said.
[q]If we looked up some player info and posted some cheers on here a day or two before the game[/q]At least buy a program so you can heckle the guys by name instead of "Hey #23 - you suck!". Plus, you get early notice of exploitable names like Clitsome. You actually didn't come up with something to do with that? I'm disappointed.
The joke was obvious - verbalizing it without being too graphic is what proved difficult.
Dartmouth player names are the best because you can try to make sentences out of them. Johnson Offers Johnson Swallow.
I was a fan of the section A/B "Sieve wants Clitsome" durring a couple of times that Clitsome and Clarkson's sieve were alone talking at the net several times...
I'm nitpicking here but didn't Leggio start the night before. He was in net for the replay of the game they showed on channel 26 saturday afternoon. We were giving him crap about his play in that game before the line up announcements.
We got a wink and some kisses out of him, but being the backup at Lynah he can afford to not have his whole head in the game.
Unfortunately we never saw him get hit really hard, but we started "Clitsome got licked" anyways.
Thats the only Clitsome he can get....
You guys are slipping.
Grant is a sophomore so you've seen him before and have had since last year to come up with something. :-}
[quote Jacob '06]Dartmouth player names are the best because you can try to make sentences out of them. Johnson Offers Johnson Swallow.[/quote]
A classic. If only that game happened. One more chance.
[quote Jacob '06]Dartmouth player names are the best because you can try to make sentences out of them. Johnson Offers Johnson Swallow.[/quote]
I may have been the only one to notice this, but at the SLU(T) game, during the national anthems, the three players closest to the townie side, from left to right, were "Bagnall" "Rank" "Hogg". There's gotta be a joke somewhere in there.
Me and a few friends in G were yelling at McNulty to break his stick. Then... his stick broke, and he had to get a new one. Hilarious.
Even better, in the third period, he lost his stick and had to use another player's regular stick, and almost immediately gave up a goal.
I think the most Dartmouth players we wound up geting into one sentence went something like this:
Lovejoy Bellows, Offers to Swallow Devine Glass Johnsons
I was at both games this weekend. For SLU(t) I was unfortunately seated in section O because I had my godparents (huge Hershey Bears hockey fans) up for the game and that was the only way I could be sure to get three tickets. It wasn't too bad there though. I got to meet the sweater guy and the other St. Lawrence fans who were fun to talk to. My godparents loved the game, but section B/A sounded more like they were at a funeral at some points that night rather than at a hockey game.
For Clarkson, I managed to snag a section A ticket at the last minute from some helpful friends. I proceeded to my old home in the middle of section B since it was about 6:50 and the stands there were still plenty empty (unfortunately, as usual). The crowd in B seemed much more into it that night, but then I have some bias since I was there. Still, I found that other fans there were pretty quiet, which makes me wonder why they felt it was so important to get a section B ticket in the first place. Overall, I thought my time in B for the Clarkson game was way better than when I was there for the Union game, and it was a lot of fun.
There's plenty about the specific cheers that has already been said. I definitely agree that the "(insert school name here) SUCKS" is a bit overused, mainly because it's seemingly easy to lead (even though many botch the rhythm of it that a trained monkey could pick up). I like the cheer though and enjoy doing it, but I like to keep it for stoppages of play when the band doesn't play and the Faithful need to just make some noise. One thing that has really bugged me the past few years is the dejected silence that comes after we're scored upon instead of a powerful LGR. When I first started going to games back in 2000, that was probably the aspect of the Faithful that really struck me as a sign that I was joining some great fans. Even when we're scored on, our fans would show that the team wasn't beaten and we weren't going to let up. Why not? Because that's exactly what the other team wants to do whenever they come to Lynah - take the crowd out of the game. Gotta get going now, but it was nice to post.
- Ryan
[quote that loud guy with the hair]One thing that has really bugged me the past few years is the dejected silence that comes after we're scored upon instead of a powerful LGR. When I first started going to games back in 2000, that was probably the aspect of the Faithful that really struck me as a sign that I was joining some great fans. Even when we're scored on, our fans would show that the team wasn't beaten and we weren't going to let up. Why not? Because that's exactly what the other team wants to do whenever they come to Lynah - take the crowd out of the game. Gotta get going now, but it was nice to post.[/quote]
They don't do that in Lynah anymore?!? I've been to 4 away games this year, and all the away fans still do it. I haven't been to Lynah, in, oh, probably 14, 15 months though. I agree with Ryan. I always (and still do) love that.
If you guys can start the "Kill Red Kill", which apparently is catching on pretty well - good job on that - then you can certainly revive this. Please, bring that back!
[quote RichS]You guys are slipping.
Grant is a sophomore so you've seen him before and have had since last year to come up with something. :-}[/quote]
I'm with RishS here. Does no one buy a program anymore? RIT's captain's name is Hyman. I mean the possibilities are endless...and names like that don't come along every day.
If Schafer schedules Bentley (please no), Lynah can get a second crack at Tom Dickhudt ("Oh my God, there's a dickhudt on the ice!" "Hey coach, why'd you put your dickhudt out there. Put it away.") formerly of the US U-18 team back in '02.
He's only a freshman this year, so there's plenty of time.
[quote DeltaOne81]One thing that has really bugged me the past few years is the dejected silence that comes after we're scored upon instead of a powerful LGR.[/quote]
The crowd has cheered "LGR" after each opponent goal at every game I've been at the last few years. It's generally a little more subdued if Cornell if either up by a lot or down by a lot (although the latter hasn't happened at Lynah for a while). But when it's a close game, the crowd seems just as loud as ever to me.
One player specifically told me at an after glow that the players do hear it, understand it, and it is a lift.
[quote DeltaOne81]
If you guys can start the "Kill Red Kill", which apparently is catching on pretty well - good job on that - then you can certainly revive this. Please, bring that back![/quote]
There's probably no cheer that garners universal support, and "Kill Red Kill" is no exception. Particularly because we already have a three-syllable chant (LGR), I'm not a big fan of KRK, to say the least, and I wish we could have something different-sounding for the PK. (And yes, I'm more than happy to suggest alternatives, but haven't historically gotten much of an enthusiastic response.)
However, given that KRK seems to have achieved a critical mass, can we at least vary it so that it runs around the rink? I suggest that A/B take the first "Kill", D/E take the "Red", and the rest of the rink take the second "Kill". Or maybe the east side take the first "Kill", the north side take the "Red", and the west side take the second "Kill".
Yes, I know this will be hard to organize, but I still don't see why it would be impossible. Similar things are done at many other sporting venues. If people liked the idea and spread the word, I'm sure the chant could get going around the rink. It might start off with the first "Kill" left hanging a few times, but people would get the idea.
M...I...N...N.... uhhh...
sorry thats just the first thing that popped into my head
[quote nr53]M...I...N...N.... uhhh...
sorry thats just the first thing that popped into my head[/quote]
Minnesota is the best selling state for hooked on phonics.
[quote HeafDog]
There's probably no cheer that garners universal support, and "Kill Red Kill" is no exception. Particularly because we already have a three-syllable chant (LGR), I'm not a big fan of KRK, to say the least, and I wish we could have something different-sounding for the PK.[/quote]
Same here. I think a simple "Kill... kill... kill...,"low and menacing, whenever the opponent has the puck, would be fun and effective. Everybody hit the same note and vibrate the puck off the opponent's stick. :-D
[quote Jacob '06][quote nr53]M...I...N...N.... uhhh...
sorry thats just the first thing that popped into my head[/quote]
Minnesota is the best selling state for hooked on phonics.[/quote]
Hey, don't knock it...it worked for me
As someone in A...
It seems like most of our section's lethargic. I'm trying to start a telephone cheer during quiet stoppages in the third, and it works well when the band doesn't go on top. Unfortunately, above us (I'm in row 5, row 6 is great too) nobody really cheers.
Rows 6 and down are generally ok, other than the guy who insists on doing the motion for gary glitter backwards. It's pretty much accepted that the first motion is always with the right hand, but people up front can't really tell...
What REALLY bothers me is that after a goal I don't hear LGR. I remember last year in B we were quite noticeable, but then again last year we felt invincible. There happens to be a big clump of about 20 freshmen at the top of A that really bog things down.
These last two games, I had no voice... I promise I'll get back to heckling this friday. When I did have full voice last (I believe Princeton) I managed to have the ENTIRE section on this guy because I managed to make him acknowledge me. It was very noticeable, so every time he was nearby from then on the entire section erupted. Good times!
[quote BMac]I remember last year in B we were quite noticeable, but then again last year we felt invincible.[/quote]
Don't get spoiled :-P . We've been doing that since we were mediocre (and probably bad too, luckily that was before my time ;) ).
[quote DeltaOne81]
Don't get spoiled :-P . We've been doing that since we were mediocre (and probably bad too, luckily that was before my time ;) ).[/quote]
You're right on one count: we were definitely doing LGR after goals even when we were bad. I mean, you can only do "the refs **** sheep" so many times. ::pissed::
However, I'd say that you're wrong to think you're lucky to have missed the lean years. The more Cornell hockey, the better - I really have some fond memories of even "those" years... :-)
Also, the lean years make the good years indescribably sweet.
[quote Trotsky]Also, the lean years make the good years indescribably sweet.[/quote]
I'll extrapolate from the Dartmouth game, if you please. I'd rather not go through years of that.
We all hope you don't have to either...
[quote BMac]
Rows 6 and down are generally ok, other than the guy who insists on doing the motion for gary glitter backwards. It's pretty much accepted that the first motion is always with the right hand, but people up front can't really tell...[/quote]
Wow, I must be getting old if we've gotten to the point where there's a consensus "first hand" to that cheer.
[quote Liz '05][quote Trotsky]Also, the lean years make the good years indescribably sweet.[/quote]
I'll extrapolate from the Dartmouth game, if you please. I'd rather not go through years of that.[/quote]
OK, here are two thought experiments:
#1
Think of that Dartmouth game.
Imagine doing that 11 consecutive times.
You have just had a brief taste of January 23 - March 5, 1993.
#2
Think of the Princeton loss.
Imagine doing that for 20 straight regular season games against Harvard.
You have just had a brief taste of Fish 'N Fowl and Lynah East, in the decade from December 8, 1985 - February 10, 1995.
[quote Trotsky][quote Liz '05][quote Trotsky]Also, the lean years make the good years indescribably sweet.[/quote]
I'll extrapolate from the Dartmouth game, if you please. I'd rather not go through years of that.[/quote]
#2
Think of the Princeton loss.
Imagine doing that for 20 straight regular season games against Harvard.
You have just had a brief taste of Fish 'N Fowl and Lynah East, in the decade from December 8, 1985 - February 10, 1995.[/quote]
This ones probably not apt... unless you meant controlling the flow and getting the better of the play, shots, and attempts, while the other team clings to the lead and tries to kill off time... for 20 games in a row.
But with Harvard very good in the, oh, 89-ish time frame :), and Cornell's poor record at that point, I kind of figure that's not what you meant.
The Dartmouth game, in which we just didn't show up, is probably your much more legit example.
I needed an icky, painful loss, but not one quite so rotten on the scoreboard. My first thought was the Albany Harvard loss, but that's not apt because of the stakes. The Clarkson's QF loss captures the depression and letdown of all those losses, but that was a shock, and the Harvard losses became so depressingly inevitable that the shock was finally beating them in the 90 QF and then, of course, with Schafer.
Have we all said "thank you, Schafer," lately? Cuz we should.
Agreed. Can appreciate success much more when have experienced failure. Otherwise begin to take success for granted.
[quote Trotsky]I needed an icky, painful loss, but not one quite so rotten on the scoreboard. My first thought was the Albany Harvard loss, but that's not apt because of the stakes.[/quote]
You mean Lake Placid. We've swept the ECACs (every time we've made it there) since Albany.
I enjoy these occasional reflections back to the "dark days" of Cornell hockey. Personally, having witnessed firsthand the modern nadir of the program (as a member of the class of '95), I pretty much had resigned myself after the '94-'95 season to the belief that the team would never get anywhere near to its old glory. How happy am I that I was wrong.
I'll be at Lynah for this weekend's games --Friday cannot get here soon enough.
[quote jtwcornell91][quote Trotsky]I needed an icky, painful loss, but not one quite so rotten on the scoreboard. My first thought was the Albany Harvard loss, but that's not apt because of the stakes.[/quote]
You mean Lake Placid. We've swept the ECACs (every time we've made it there) since Albany.[/quote]
Huh. I hadn't thought of that. You're right, I must mean LP.
[q]But with Harvard very good in the, oh, 89-ish time frame :), and Cornell's poor record at that point, I kind of figure that's not what you meant. [/q]OTOH, Cornell was actually pretty good from 86-92 when Harvard was peaking (with the exception of Reycroft's last year in '87). It was only the last few years of the drought where Cornell teams were pretty bad.
Year W L T Pct
1986 21 7 4 .719
1987 11 16 0 .407
1988 19 9 0 .679
1989 16 13 1 .550
1990 16 10 3 .603
1991 18 11 3 .609
1992 13 10 4 .556
1993 6 19 1 .250
1994 8 17 5 .350
1995 11 15 4 .433
[quote Trotsky][quote jtwcornell91][quote Trotsky]I needed an icky, painful loss, but not one quite so rotten on the scoreboard. My first thought was the Albany Harvard loss, but that's not apt because of the stakes.[/quote]
You mean Lake Placid. We've swept the ECACs (every time we've made it there) since Albany.[/quote]
Huh. I hadn't thought of that. You're right, I must mean LP.[/quote]
Weren't the ECACs in Albany in 2002? I'm pretty sure they were. I missed them (keeping my perfect record of seeing every victorious Cornell ECAC championship game since 1980), but recall wishing I was in Albany that night.
[q]Have we all said "thank you, Schafer," lately? Cuz we should.[/q]Thank Schafer? But he's the losingest coach in Cornell hockey history! His 107 losses beats out McCutcheon's 105 and Bertrand's 104. So what if he's also coached the most games too (355 to Bertrand's 342).
(Just noticed these stats, so I couldn't resist pointing 'em out...)
[quote lhayes]
Weren't the ECACs in Albany in 2002? I'm pretty sure they were. I missed them (keeping my perfect record of seeing every victorious Cornell ECAC championship game since 1980), but recall wishing I was in Albany that night.[/quote]
No. They were in Placid through 2002.
I may be remembering incorrectly, but didn't we lose Manderville and Ratushny to team Canada in '92 or something like that. I know it put a huge dent in the program when they left. I was a freshman in '90-'91. I went to a bunch of games but was not a season ticket holder and did not know a lot about the team at that stage.
They were definitely at Lake Placid. It would have been tough to ski at Whiteface all day like I did and then go to the game after if the games were in Albany. I remember not really having anything to eat, figuring we would go out after the game. Then the game ran so late with the 2OT we had a hard time finding anything open. We got our sweet revenge in the inaugural Albany series with the '03 OT win, though. :-)
[quote lhayes]
Weren't the ECACs in Albany in 2002? I'm pretty sure they were. I missed them (keeping my perfect record of seeing every victorious Cornell ECAC championship game since 1980), but recall wishing I was in Albany that night.[/quote]
If you were wishing you were in Albany that night, I dunno why... its hard to wish you're in Albany even when there IS Cornell hockey there ;)
Definitely Lake Placid though, and I'm glad I got to see the ECACs in Lake Placid that once, even if it had to be that one.
[quote lhayes]I...recall wishing I was in Albany that night.[/quote]
Wow, you don't see that written or spoken often. :-P
Edit: Fred, we think a like. Enjoy Boston, ya bastahd! ;-)
I sit right in front of the band in A... it was pretty full on Saturday (it's more the far far left side that's empty). More importantly, every game I try to get the remote control goalie going as often as possible. It started to get to McNulty last weekend while their coach was bitching (he was swurving a bit to mess us up)... there's no better way to get a goalie's head out of the game. As for other cheers- LETS GO RED should be used after opponent goals, not section O sucks.
I agree, the remote control goalie has been lacking all year
It's one of my favorites, and McNulty proves that it can get goalies out of their personal routine. It may not have led directly to any goals in that game, but I believe it was Army last year where a late bendover cost the goalie position on a 2 on 1 and resulted in a goal.
and then there is always that dartmouth goalie...
Ah, little Nicky!
the problem with the remote control goalie, is that many people have turned it into just "bend over", instead of actually saying what the goalie is doing ("lean", "pose", "tap") after the initial circling. and then other people try to force their way, or just get frustrated with it. at least thats what I hear in the top of A...
[quote oceanst41]I agree, the remote control goalie has been lacking all year[/quote]
And there are more verbs than Skate, Turn, and Bend Over ...
Glide, Stop, Sweep, Tap, etc.
The band usually does them, but everyone else is already chanting Bend Over.
Edit: We're both psychic.
[quote KP '06][quote oceanst41]I agree, the remote control goalie has been lacking all year[/quote]
And there are more verbs than Skate, Turn, and Bend Over ...
Glide, Stop, Sweep, Tap, etc.
The band usually does them, but everyone else is already chanting Bend Over.
Edit: We're both psychic.[/quote]
I forget if it was Pesony or McNulty, but one of them made the bizarre addition of stretching upwards in the crease during his ritual. Yelling "stretch" by myself didn't really catch on, though.
[quote atb9]
Edit: Fred, we think a like. Enjoy Boston, ya bastahd! ;-)[/quote]
It's "bahstid", but I suppose I can't expect a "nycap.res.rr.com"-er to be an expert on the accent ;)
< digression >
Lois, sometimes its appropriate to swear
---- Flashback -----
- Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you god?
- I do... ya bahstid
--------------------
< / digression >
Back on topic, I agree about the remote control goalie having lost the flavor of the full routine. I still remember that Clarkson goalie with the tap-tap-tap-tap.
And was anyone else in D/E/F for the Maine game at Lynah in 2000-01? With the sweep, sweep,sweep on the opposing goaltender, who was trying to trick us? That was fun :)
Ive tried to do sweep, chug, tap, etc... both at lynah and on the road... for the last several years, but no one joins in. I've noticed lately though that "AND THEY STILL SUCK!" has caught back on at Lynah recently. So anything's possible!
[quote DeltaOne81]And was anyone else in D/E/F for the Maine game at Lynah in 2000-01? With the sweep, sweep,sweep on the opposing goaltender, who was trying to trick us? That was fun :)
[/quote]
And I believe he (I think his name was Morrison) gave up the last true Lynah Bounce goal in the third period of that game (it ended 1-1) before they redid the floor and boards that following summer.
Why has Cornell gotten away from the Tuesday before Thanksgiving HEA game?
[quote Chris '03]Why has Cornell gotten away from the Tuesday before Thanksgiving HEA game?[/quote]
Instead, it seems they try to schedule a pair of games for the weekend right after Thanksgiving. Now let's just hope that we can get higher quality opponents for that weekend in the future.
That was McNulty, and I think everyone was so thrown off by it that they broke into their own jeering. I heard a few cat calls, when he was going into the splits.
We tried for a few new additions as well, "drink water" comes to mind as well as the Niagara? goalie who skated to his crease then took a sharp turn and skating straight out and then backed into position. We got a "beep, beep, beep" going for that.
Well Niagara did beat UHN this year ::laugh::
[quote DeltaOne81]
This ones probably not apt... unless you meant controlling the flow and getting the better of the play, shots, and attempts, while the other team clings to the lead and tries to kill off time... for 20 games in a row.
But with Harvard very good in the, oh, 89-ish time frame :), and Cornell's poor record at that point, I kind of figure that's not what you meant.
The Dartmouth game, in which we just didn't show up, is probably your much more legit example.[/quote]
Actually there were plenty of games in that era when Cornell controlled the play and had multi-goal leads in some of the games, but Harvard always seemed to find a way to come back. Even during Harvard's National Championship year they only beat us at home when one of their players took a long pass as he left the penalty box and scored on a break away (which I believe led to a rule change the following year).
That's why the 1990 playoff victory when Harvard was behind us in the standings but announced they were "exstatic" to be playing Cornell was so sweet.
Peter Schoaff '90
[quote schoaff]Actually there were plenty of games in that era when Cornell controlled the play and had multi-goal leads in some of the games, [/quote]
If you are referring to the RS games, I can't think of even one game in which Cornell controlled the play or had a multiple goal lead. The only games during the 0-18-2 stretch in which Cornell looked like they even belonged on the same ice as Harvard were the two ties -- one of which we actually ought to have won (Harvard scored on a penalty courtesy of a late fish).
Woah there--take it easy.
At the start of the season, section A had a great deal of trouble with the Cornell police and the ushers in the section. Things have improved greatly, but there is the constant fear of being scapegoated when the CUPD is standing right below you. Many of the freshmen in the section became Gun-shy, and it has taken them a while to get their voices back. They're coming along nicely.
Also, chill out. Why the self-righteous "we're louder than you" rants? We're all cheering the same team. Take it easy...I hate it, I absolutely HATE it, when post-game discussion devolves into who-yelled-what.
("No, man, I was the one who yelled Let's Go Red at 10:32 in the third. When you did it, it was, like, totally lame, but when I did it, everyone joined in. Heh-heh....where's my girlfriend? Oh yeah, I don't have one...I'm gonna go cry alone.")
We should concentrate on being louder as a whole, and--take a look at your schedules--we should concentrate on being obscenely loud at Colgate.
You're wasting oxygen, complaining that people "cheered wrong."
HOORAY RED TEAM! (Doesn't that just piss you off?!)
-LJRED
[quote LaJollaRed]
("No, man, I was the one who yelled Let's Go Red at 10:32 in the third. When you did it, it was, like, totally lame, but when I did it, everyone joined in. Heh-heh....where's my girlfriend? Oh yeah, I don't have one...I'm gonna go cry alone.")
We should concentrate on being louder as a whole, and--take a look at your schedules--we should concentrate on being obscenely loud at Colgate.
You're wasting oxygen, complaining that people "cheered wrong."
HOORAY RED TEAM! (Doesn't that just piss you off?!)
-LJRED[/quote]
I got a laugh out of your post, and I think you made some very good points. But I have to reiterate or otherwise point out that there are those (like me) who feel that we used to be much more creative as a crowd, and that cheers like LGR, while our mainstay, are overused. It just seems like we don't have the variation we used to back in the mid-90s, for example.
Does that mean that we should stop cheering LGR, or sucks, or Section O sucks? No, of course not. It's just that it would be nice to change things up a little once in a while. There are a lot of cheers that just aren't heard much anymore in Lynah (and I'd list those cheers here, but something tells me that people aren't really that interested), and it's fine to replace them, as long as it doesn't mean being monotonous.
Again, though, I like your spirit, and I will be right there cheering with you. Hooray Red Team.
If you have a chance, you should list the cheers. As a (relatively) newer member of the Faithful, I'd be interested. Trying to bring back some old ones would be great.
[quote montague]If you have a chance, you should list the cheers. As a (relatively) newer member of the Faithful, I'd be interested. Trying to bring back some old ones would be great.[/quote]
http://www.elynah.com/?cheers
(jkahn, thanks very much for providing the link.)
There's a couple more that I don't think are on there (Age, any chance for an update to it?).
At the very second that a Cornell power play expires, and the opposing team's player emerges from the sin bin, we vent our frustration (and naturally, this is hopefully not a common occurrence) by yelling, " returns to full strength, AND THEY STILL SUCK." Everyone can participate in this entire cheer; it is not meant to be led by a single person.
(I've been trying to resurrect that one a bit, but not living in Ithaca anymore, it's a bit tough. I go to as many games as I possibly can.)
The other one that's noticeably absent is the "Good Bye" song. I have no idea what its official name is or was. And it's going to be very hard to get it going in Lynah, what with people being tossed for saying the word "asshole", so that's why it might be better to save it for road games. I mean, think of it this way: if you get tossed at the end of a road game, what are they gonna do? Take away your season tickets? (I did try it at the home Clarkson game, but always had to look around to make sure good old Earl the Section B Usher wasn't nearby.)
Good bye, ...
Good bye, ...
Good bye, , we hate to see you go (YOU ASSHOLES!)
It's a totally fun song. Works great to rub it in. I can't think of how I could possibly convey how the tune goes, however, so if anyone has any ideas along those lines, feel free to chime in. It's some old drinking song or barbershop quartet tune.
(And in the playoffs, we can obviously fire up some "Na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, good bye". (If we're about to win and send them golfing, of course.))
[quote HeafDog]At the very second that a Cornell power play expires, and the opposing team's player emerges from the sin bin, we vent our frustration (and naturally, this is hopefully not a common occurrence) by yelling, " returns to full strength, AND THEY STILL SUCK." Everyone can participate in this entire cheer; it is not meant to be led by a single person.[/quote]
I miss the days when " returns to full strength" was a regular PA announcement, and a much louder and easier call for the crowd's "...and they still suck!" response. Even when "Cornell returns to full strength" was the announcement, the response was "...and still sucks!"
Shame that doesn't happen anymore...
Beeeej
[quote HeafDog]
The other one that's noticeably absent is the "Good Bye" song. I have no idea what its official name is or was. And it's going to be very hard to get it going in Lynah, what with people being tossed for saying the word "asshole", so that's why it might be better to save it for road games. [/quote]
The reason it died was because it was specifically singled out by Coach Schafer at the start of the '96-'97 (or thereabouts) season as one of the cheers that needed to go. He also mentioned the cheer about the referee and sheep fornicating, as well as what gets said after "See ya."
At the road Quinnipiac game at Yale, I heard some people trying to start the "Good bye" song at the end.
I think the real song is "Good night, ladies (3x) We hate to see you go." if that helps anyone. That is a good idea. Maybe we could bring it back by substituting "You Goons", or something like that for A**holes. Or, in reference to the old McKenzie brother skits and particularly relevant with the number of Canadians in the ECAC, "You hosers". :-)
[quote RichH]
The reason it died was because it was specifically singled out by Coach Schafer at the start of the '96-'97 (or thereabouts) season as one of the cheers that needed to go.
[/quote]
Yeah, I remember that. Still, it's possible to only apply that to home games.
[quote RichH]
At the road Quinnipiac game at Yale, I heard some people trying to start the "Good bye" song at the end.[/quote]
I'll take credit for that one. :-D You gonna join us next time?
No, no, no.
I'm talking about the old cheers that have disappeared from the rotation. I'm not THAT new.
Well, the goalie/sieve and its variations have pretty much disappeared, to name a few. Goalie/sieve/post has still survived, somewhat, but this family of cheers used to be much more common, and the participation level used to be much higher. (And yes, "blue line/idiot" and "red line/idiot" are nice additions to the group.)
I've mentioned it before and know others don't miss it, but the the cheer I miss the most is Fight, Maim, Kill (and unlike Swanee it wasn't lead by the Tubas in the 80's no matter what everyone else remembers :-D).
I'm also with Beeej on missing the PA announcement. I think it was the 90-91 when they stopped announcing " returns to full strength" on the PA. A part of me died that day :`(
[quote schoaff]I've mentioned it before and know others don't miss it, but the the cheer I miss the most is Fight, Maim, Kill (and unlike Swanee it wasn't lead by the Tubas in the 80's no matter what everyone else remembers :-D).[/quote]
Who remembers it being led by the Tubas?! It was led by the trumpets, and on increasingly rare occasions still is.
Beeeej
[quote Beeeej]
Who remembers it being led by the Tubas?! It was led by the trumpets, and on increasingly rare occasions still is.
Beeeej[/quote]
That's exactly what I remember, but a year or two ago when I brought it up people from the pep-band swore it was a Tuba cheer which made me question my sanity.
[quote schoaff][quote Beeeej]
Who remembers it being led by the Tubas?! It was led by the trumpets, and on increasingly rare occasions still is.
Beeeej[/quote]
That's exactly what I remember, but a year or two ago when I brought it up people from the pep-band swore it was a Tuba cheer which made me question my sanity.[/quote]
Very much a trumpet cheer. The last time I remember doing it, most people stared awkwardly, while some started singing "[Goalie] is a great big sieve ..."
[quote HeafDog]There's a couple more that I don't think are on there (Age, any chance for an update to it?).[/quote]
I'm sorry. Does that look like my name at the top or e-mail address on the corrections line? :-P
[quote CowbellGuy][quote HeafDog]There's a couple more that I don't think are on there (Age, any chance for an update to it?).[/quote]
I'm sorry. Does that look like my name at the top or e-mail address on the corrections line? :-P[/quote]
Ah, quite true. I missed that part. I'll send him an email.
[quote HeafDog]At the very second that a Cornell power play expires, and the opposing team's player emerges from the sin bin, we vent our frustration (and naturally, this is hopefully not a common occurrence) by yelling, " returns to full strength, AND THEY STILL SUCK." Everyone can participate in this entire cheer; it is not meant to be led by a single person.[/quote]
I realize I am a little behind (timewise), but I wanted to give credit where credit is due...the guy a seat or two over from me (section b, row 5) does always do this cheer, and then others join in. (I am guilty of not getting my own timing right to do the begining of the cheer...)
on another note, after the opposing team scores, it seems to me LGR does get started...sometimes it is delayed, but it happens...
and finally, I know this has been discussed a million times before, but one problem with LGR is that people don't stay together (even when the band is keeping a beat--that baffles me), and it speeds up too quickly. I noticed this when I was sitting with a friend in sect L, and we had to decide which group's rythm we were going to follow...of course, I still don't know what to do about it, but that's my 2 cents.
I've been complaining (futilely) about the LGR speed up for over a decade now. Racing through it just seems idiotic. *shakes head sadly*
In fairness, it's likely that many can't hear the beat that the band is playing.
[quote LynahFaithfulS]
I realize I am a little behind (timewise), but I wanted to give credit where credit is due...the guy a seat or two over from me (section b, row 5) does always do this cheer, and then others join in. (I am guilty of not getting my own timing right to do the begining of the cheer...)
[/quote]
Well, back in the mid-90s, it was a joint effort, and was not started by a single person. It's different from winning-team/losing-team, which definitely calls for a single leader. Put it this way: how would you designate who starts the "returns to full strength" cheer? What happens if that person misses the cue, or isn't even at the game? Let's say it was supposed to be started by one person, but multiple parties attempted to start it at the same time. Upon hearing it being started by someone else, should one of those multiple parties stop? Unfortunately, the cheer is called for too often for uncontrolled designation of a single leader to be practical.
[quote HeafDog]Well, back in the mid-90s, it was a joint effort, and was not started by a single person. It's different from winning-team/losing-team, which definitely calls for a single leader. Put it this way: how would you designate who starts the "returns to full strength" cheer? What happens if that person misses the cue, or isn't even at the game? Let's say it was supposed to be started by one person, but multiple parties attempted to start it at the same time. Upon hearing it being started by someone else, should one of those multiple parties stop? Unfortunately, the cheer is called for too often for uncontrolled designation of a single leader to be practical.[/quote]
oh, no, I agree with you! I just wanted to say it's not dead.
(And as the season has gone on, more people are doing it, too.)
[quote LynahFaithfulS][quote HeafDog]Well, back in the mid-90s, it was a joint effort, and was not started by a single person. It's different from winning-team/losing-team, which definitely calls for a single leader. Put it this way: how would you designate who starts the "returns to full strength" cheer? What happens if that person misses the cue, or isn't even at the game? Let's say it was supposed to be started by one person, but multiple parties attempted to start it at the same time. Upon hearing it being started by someone else, should one of those multiple parties stop? Unfortunately, the cheer is called for too often for uncontrolled designation of a single leader to be practical.[/quote]
oh, no, I agree with you! I just wanted to say it's not dead.
(And as the season has gone on, more people are doing it, too.)[/quote]
Excellent. Carry on, then. :-D
/"it's not dead" reminds me of "The Cheat Is Not Dead"
At the other end of the rink (D,E,F,etc.), it is hard to hear the band's beat. However, most of the people in B around me tend to speed up. I get frustrated every time, but blame it on the fact that I am a music buff -- others aren't capable so I shouldn't get angry. In the same light, it is near impossible for most (music people or not) to keep from rushing once the band is drowned out. In my experience, it is just human nature to speed up with any simple rhythm pattern.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: It is because speeding up is simple and inevitable human nature that the drummer for the Pep Band should start the beat, go a few rounds, and then get the hell out of the way. You can blame it on the crowd as much as you want, but the drumbeat is, ultimately, a little too slow - so if the crowd is going to speed up no matter what the drummer does, the drummer needs to stop. Then it will sound like the crowd is chanting at one pace instead of many.
Beeeej