2 01:46 Clk pp Cayer (Sullivan, Genovy)
2 07:53 Cor Bitz 4 (Pokulok 4, Moulson 13)
2 11:33 Clk pp Zalewski (Guthrie, Clitsome)
2 14:29 Cor pp McCutcheon 6 (Pokulok 6, Seminoff 3)
3 10:09 Cor Chris Abbott 4 (Cam Abbott 7, Gleed 4)
3 12:16 Cor pp Moulson 13 (Scott 14, Bitz 11)
Audio works if you click that before the video link.
Got it, thanks.
Line shakeups tonight, according to GT:
Moulson-Bitz-Carefoot
Cam-Pegs-McCutcheon
Mugford-Chris-Sawada
Scott-Kennedy-Barlow
Pokulok-O'Byrne
Seminoff-Gleed
Glover-Krantz
McKee
It would be nice to see this ceremony.
Introducing new president. Jason says 1st chance to really get feel for Cornell as fans are cheering.
Crowd pumped as president and wife each given hockey jersey.
Thanks again to CSTV for their sterling service. I'm so glad it isn't a free, informal service anymore... when it actually worked.
I'm glad I didn't plan my evening around looking forward to going to my office to watch the game. ::rolleyes::
What I was told during the 2nd time I called CSTV: "They say it's working, but we're not getting any video either." I'm not entirely sure to whom "they" and "we" refer, but the CSTV representative did say video may be up sometime within the next 10-30 minutes. ::uhoh::
...and video is up. :-)
I was surprised by the video last night. While the resolution wasn't TV quality the motion was. There was no visible joppiness. Tonight seems more typical. Anyone else think the feed yesterday was exceptional?
[quote Ken '70]I was surprised by the video last night. While the resolution wasn't TV quality the motion was. There was no visible joppiness. Tonight seems more typical. Anyone else think the feed yesterday was exceptional?[/quote]
It was exceptional last night until mid-3rd period for me, when it became a strange combination of slo-mo and stop-action.
Yesterday was very good. I am getting different slices of the screen changing at different rates tonight. I have had problems with freeze-ups before, but I have never seen this.
I think the boys are talking about their dates on the break... :-D
Clarkson has nine SOG in seven minutes. ::uhoh::
[quote Trotsky]I think the boys are talking about their dates on the break... :-D[/quote]
That's what makes the feed worth it. :-P
Fist PP for Cornell at 8:58.
Rebound so wide open but couldnt get the stick on it. (Bitz I think)
Who's still injured tonight?
[quote ebilmes]Who's still injured tonight?[/quote]
Everyone apparently healthy.
Even strength. First unit did well. Second did nothing. SOSDD.
SOSDD?
Crowd seems very loud tonight.
Gotta love watching a live hockey game as a slide show.
[quote cth95]Crowd seems very loud tonight.[/quote]
It IS Clarkson, and most of them were there for the Syphilis Series.
[quote French Rage]SOSDD?[/quote]
aka SSDD
SSDD?
Same OLD Shit, different Day
[quote cth95]Gotta love watching a live hockey game as a slide show.[/quote]
Right-click the image, and choose Options-->Connection Speed = DSL. That should work.
Clarkson PP.
End of 1. Still no score.
Anyone catch what the crowd was yelling there?
"get a hot dog" ?
for cksn coach george roll
posting from my seat in section g....damn it feels good to be back watching live!
Clarkson back on the PP.
Another stupid penalty in the offensive zone.
Followed by a Clarkson goal 6 seconds into the PP.
Now Cornell on the PP.
BAck to even strength.
Nice to see Clarkson has gone from bad to worse with their jerseys.
Thanks. I'm playing with it now, but don't see much difference yet. Any suggestions for what speed to use? Not much of a computer whiz. Also tried on Firefox instead of Explorer without much difference. Last night didn't do anything yet had very good feed.
Bitz on the 4x4!
GOAL!!!!!
Bitz during the 4x4. Assist by Pokulok and Moulson.
2 07:53 Cor Bitz 4 (Pokulok 4, Moulson 13)
Delayed penalty on us, shot into the net, doesnt count of course.
Clarkson powerplay coming up.
These Clarkson announcers get me nervous any time something gets close to the goal.
Four players sent to the box - 2 for each.
[quote French Rage]Nice to see Clarkson has gone from bad to worse with their jerseys.[/quote]
Looks like Harley-Davidson U. with that goofy logo on the chest.
Correction. Gleed gets 4 (roughing and unsportsmanlike). Clarkson on a 5 on 3.
Clarkson Goal.
Even strength.
Clarkson (Paquette) misses an open net, and now Cornell pp upcoming.
Cornell Powerplay coming up. about six minutes left in the 2nd.
McCutcheon "rips it"!
2-2!
McCutcheon on PP. Clarkson announcers pissed at no obstruction called on Cornell. Assist by Pokulok and Seminoff.
[quote French Rage]McCutcheon "rips it"!
2-2![/quote]
DS, DD.;-)
Goal Red!!!! 2-2.
Great pp, yet again. O'Byrne and Sasha on the points really gives it an interesting look.
I think that was Sasha and Seminoff.
Tripping. Cornell pp upcoming.
CU PP again.
[quote Al DeFlorio][quote French Rage]McCutcheon "rips it"!
2-2![/quote]
DS, DD.;-)[/quote]
Love it.
Immediate even-up call. We go to 4x4.
And, after 8 seconds of PP, penalty on Pokulok.
We really are giving them too many breaks with these dumb penalties.
McNulty guesses right on the Cam Abbott shot -- that was close.
Wonder if our president also saw the Cornell - Columbia basketball game. That'd be natural for a Hawkeye fan. Wonder how the Lynah Faithful compare to the Iowa hoops fans? I think Cornell is in a league with, say, Duke hoops fans, cheering the home team and dissing everything else, such as the visting team, its fans, the officials ...
Iowa has a pretty fair wrestling program, no? That'd be something in common.
Interesting. Both Abbotts out together.
Another damn trip at center ice.
Another penalty...
End of a busy period with half a penalty left.
Announcer w/Jason says seems to be calling a little tight w/ calls for not so obvious things that he hasn't seen
SLU 2 Colgate 1, late 2nd period.
There's the horn. End of 2, tied at 2. Shots are 23-20 Red.
Clarkson with 1:08 of PP to start the third.
[quote billhoward]Iowa has a pretty fair wrestling program, no?[/quote]
Yes, but it's not dominant like it was in the Dan Gable-coached (and wrestled) eras.
[quote cth95]Announcer w/Jason says seems to be calling a little tight w/ calls for not so obvious things that he hasn't seen[/quote]
Who is that guy? I missed the introduction.
SLU 2 Colgate 2, end of 2.
[quote cth95]Announcer w/Jason says seems to be calling a little tight w/ calls for not so obvious things that he hasn't seen[/quote]
yeah, but he also said that right after the blatant trip at center ice. if he's not looking at the part of the ice with the puck he's going to miss a lot of the ref's calls.
I was wondering the same thing. He joked about getting a jersey when the President did, since it is his first time at Lynah, too.
I haven't seen more than a couple of minutes of continuous video this whole game (including all 4 goals), so I will leave any judgements to those of you who can actually tell what's going on.
Video quality varies more with the load on the network especially what your neighbors are downloading, if you've got a cable connection, which is shared bandwitdh back to the central office. Maybe lots of people tonight are getting the Country Music Miss America Pageant, or something. There's only so much you can do at your end.
Do make sure you crank up the speed of your local connection (mentioned on a nearby post) by right-clicking on the image and choosing a fixed higher speed. It may be better than letting the computer try to auto-set.
A glutton for punishment, I've been trying to pipe the output to a big screen TV. If you do that, go for the highest quality connection: PC or HDMI if the TV has it, else component (three video cables), else SVideo, else composite (the single yellow RCA cable (plus two audio jacks). Some PCs and laptops have trouble outputting a video window onto a second display, so you should load the video feed early to make sure it works right. Oh, I forgot, CSTV believes in just in time delivery feed.
Thanks for the advice. I have played with every DSL setting, but none seem to make much difference. I managed to lock up my computer and have to completely shut it down and restart it during the 2nd Cornell goal. My feed is usually so-so with occasional skips, but tonight I have had essentially zero continual motion.
For those who dont know, the band who sounds like every person is playing a different song is the Clarkson band.
Where'd Ted (?), the color guy, come from who's helping out Jason Weinstein? He's been pretty honest aobut the flaws he sees in both teams and it's maybe getting on Jason's nerves. At one point in the second, he says it looks like McKee didn't see the last couple shots but he was in the right place when the puck him, that or the defense was screening McKee. Imagine that, suggesting a Cornell player was less than perfect. Then McKee makes an awesome save and Jason notes, right away, "McKee certainly saw that one."
[quote billhoward]Oh, I forgot, CSTV believes in just in time delivery feed.[/quote]
"In time" and "CSTV" don't belong in the same sentence.
I noticed that sound. Glad to have correctly guessed it wasn't ours. Too fast also.
Make the game the only thing running on your PC other than the eLynah window. Close off Outlook, Word, etcetera. That shouldn't have an impact since XP is rock solid, as we're all told ... but never can be too safe.
I did all those things just to be safe, but I am glad you posted because I was wondering if it would make a difference.
Chrysler logo looks like that, too. Also one of the aircraft engine makers, I think. There's a LOT to be said for Cornell's simplicity, inlcuding the jerseys never look dated.
Game on. We're about a minute into the 3rd.
Back to even strength.
Cornell band is the one making music.
Colgate up 3-2 on SLU.
I bet Cornell is using cheap cameras, eg $500 or $2,000, not $10,000, and they have trouble dealing with the relatively low light at Lynah. Watch a replay of the Harvard game (upcoming) feed when broadcast quality cameras are used because it's a televised game. You'll still get the pixellation and low-res, but there'll be much better shadow detail and a dark jersey such as Clarkson's will be green not off-black.
15 minutes left in the 3rd.
I can deal with a fairly poor image. I only ask that I can actual see the game as movement instead of occasional still images.
Kennedy hustle draws a penalty. Cornell pp.
10:58
Cornell going on the PP.
Phantom even-up call.
Come on Red!!!
Chris Abbott!
3-2
Even up call. Damn.
Abbott shrugs off the phantom call and gives us the lead!!!
Edit: Chris
Abbotts on a 4x4 are just wonderful.
Slashing on Clarkson.
Is it 4x4 again now?
2 01:46 Clk pp Cayer (Sullivan, Genovy)
2 07:53 Cor Bitz 4 (Pokulok 4, Moulson 13)
2 11:33 Clk pp Zalewski (Guthrie, Clitsome)
2 14:29 Cor pp McCutcheon 6 (Pokulok 6, Seminoff 3)
3 10:09 Cor Chris Abbott 4 (Cam Abbott 7, Gleed 4)
Phantom call??
[quote Al DeFlorio]Abbotts on a 4x4 are just wonderful.[/quote]
Definitely, they got the speed and coordination we need in a situation like that.
Tubas!
Tubas!
Shots 7-1 Cornell this period.
The interference on Pokulok that brought it down to 4x4 in the first place.
Moulson!!
Piling it on.
Clarkson goalie = n00b
Yeah Baby! 4-2 !!!
3 12:16 Cor pp Moulson 13 (Scott 14, Bitz 11)
Oh, and the shots are now... 8-1. :-)
Schafer needs to show the guys the film of both third periods, saying, "see what happens when you finish your checks? See?!?" :-)
6:15 left. Cornell back on the PP!
Giveaway in front leads to Cornell taking the even-up penalty. Probably a good one to take.
Fans are awesome tonight! Even though last night was big game, can hear Gary Glitter a capella and all the chants much better tonight.
Other announcer keeps saying how Clarkson has no legs left.
'gate up still, 13ish left.
B-U-T-full glove save my McKee on a 3 on 1.
Huge save McKee.
[quote Ben Rocky 04]'gate up still, 13ish left.[/quote]
SLU ties it at 3.
Now about 5 min left there.
SLU-Colgate tied at 3. I guess we want SLU??
stupid game tracker
[quote Ben Rocky 04]stupid game tracker[/quote]
:-)
Watching it on tv while listening to the Big Red on the radio.
stupid living south of the mason dixon line. 'whats hockey?'
[quote French Rage]SLU-Colgate tied at 3. I guess we want SLU??[/quote]
Not sure. Colgate is a borderline TUC. If they stay a TUC, we have the potential to get two more TUC wins.
[quote Ben Rocky 04]stupid living south of the mason dixon line. 'whats hockey?'[/quote]
Been there; done that; never again. Took days to learn we won the 1980 ECACs.
Whoever is in the booth, he scored for the Washington Generals. ::screwy:: ::screwy::
Sullivan and O'Byrne both given 2 + 10 minutes. Hit the showers.
[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Ben Rocky 04]stupid living south of the mason dixon line. 'whats hockey?'[/quote]
Been there; done that; never again. Took days to learn we won the 1980 ECACs.[/quote]
How could you miss it? The NASCAR channel had it on the screen ticker.
Net is empty...
2:33 left...let's hold on...
Hot Abbott on Abbott action...
Sligtly off the subject, but is this projected win going to give us another microscpic elevation in the PWR
Jason was advertising upcoming Globetrotters game at Newman, and other announcer said he played one game for Generals against Globetrotters when was working at Massachusetts radio station. Said made one free throw. Missed 2nd because was pantsed.
[quote Trotsky]Hot Abbott on Abbott action...[/quote]
...going after Clitsome.
Sorry, couldn't be helped :-P
1 minute left
[quote colo83]Sligtly off the subject, but is this projected win going to give us another microscpic elevation in the PWR[/quote]
Assuming Clarkson stays above .500 RPI, should give us a TUC, but our RPI is too low for that to give us more than a couple flips, at the verrry most.
1:22 left
Colgate wins in overtime 4-3
Guess I'm being naive, but if we didn't move much by beating SLU, when is it posible to get up in the PWR? retty good question from a part Buffalo
Colgate/SLU in OT
Holy Cross beat Dartmouth. ::help::
And that's a final.
LGR!!!
Colgate wins in OT.
[quote Al DeFlorio]Holy Cross beat Dartmouth. ::help::[/quote]
Holy...Cross! ;-)
I thought George Roll was supposed to change the Clarkson attitude? It looked like the same chippy and cheap team out there to me...
I awaays appreciate your cogent comments AL; as mature fans hopefully we have a different perent perspective although considered rational!
[quote Tub(a)]I thought George Roll was supposed to change the Clarkson attitude? It looked like the same chippy and cheap team out there to me...[/quote]
...nice win, but please just shut up if you don't know what you are talking about.
[quote Drew][quote Tub(a)]I thought George Roll was supposed to change the Clarkson attitude? It looked like the same chippy and cheap team out there to me...[/quote]
...nice win, but please just shut up if you don't know what you are talking about.[/quote]
OK, I'll be quiet. First just let me go shoot some pucks at the opposing goalie well after the final whistle. Or maybe on my way down the ice I'll flop around and try to draw a penalty or two.
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82][quote Al DeFlorio]Holy Cross beat Dartmouth. ::help::[/quote]
Holy...Cross! ;-)[/quote]
on a shorty no less
....don't know how you will have the time to do that as you hold my best player's head and run him into the boards. Take your win, it was a good win but don't run the coach and and the school as chippy.....
....poor form after a win.
[quote Tub(a)][quote Drew][quote Tub(a)]I thought George Roll was supposed to change the Clarkson attitude? It looked like the same chippy and cheap team out there to me...[/quote]
...nice win, but please just shut up if you don't know what you are talking about.[/quote]
OK, I'll be quiet. First just let me go shoot some pucks at the opposing goalie well after the final whistle. Or maybe on my way down the ice I'll flop around and try to draw a penalty or two.[/quote]
Look, let's all relax. Cornell and Clarkson are both great programs with winning traditions who play hard. Things get heated when they play each other; it just happens. Nobody got hurt, nobody got DQed, and we'll do it again in Potsdam in a few weeks.
[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Ben Rocky 04]stupid living south of the mason dixon line. 'whats hockey?'[/quote]
Been there; done that; never again. Took days to learn we won the 1980 ECACs.[/quote]
Hey, between DirecTV and high-speed internet, it's a lot better now.
I thought Clarkson looked a lot cleaner than last year and there seemed to be less flagrant diving which was a nice change. Even if there was a late shot it hardly would make the game a dirty one.
On a somewhat different topic did anyone think that they were watching a different team this weekend? They were flying. Great hockey. Great win.
He's just upset about their new jerseys. :-}
I guess you'd be an expert on that having watched a few of Schafer's teams in earlier years. ::rolleyes::
Weren't the penalties 15-14 tonight with both head coaches upset with somne of the calls that were made...and not made?
[quote Rich S]I guess you'd be an expert on that having watched a few of Schafer's teams in earlier years. ::rolleyes::
Weren't the penalties 15-14 tonight with both head coaches upset with somne of the calls that were made...and not made?[/quote]And... thread closed.
Actually, they aren't "new" jerseys at all. They are throwbacks from many decades ago, I don't recall the exact year but note that the program is 83 years old.
"Goofy"? I think the logo is close to what's called "Art Deco" style so maybe it dates back to the 20s and 30s.
"Goofy"? You mean like the bear you guys (mostly) didn't like? THAT was goofy...:-D
I like art deco. It aint art deco. It's goofy.
[quote Rich S]"Goofy"? You mean like the bear you guys (mostly) didn't like? THAT was goofy...:-D[/quote]
Hey, don't insult our goofy bear! That's our job! :-D
[quote Rich S]Actually, they aren't "new" jerseys at all. They are throwbacks from many decades ago, I don't recall the exact year but note that the program is 83 years old.[/quote]
Well, some throwbacks should just be thrown back. (Remember the mustard monstrosities Canada wore at the last World Cup?)
Quote"Goofy"? You mean like the bear you guys (mostly) didn't like? THAT was goofy...:-D
We never put that bear on our hockey jerseys. (It's bad enough the women's team started wearing those awful Big Red Wings sweaters PSP was selling.)
Bob Ahlfeld said the jerseys were based on those from the 20's.
[quote KeithK]Bob Ahlfeld said the jerseys were based on those from the 20's.[/quote]
Someone on the Round Table referred to them as "third jerseys."
Yes, third jerseys that will be auctioned at the end of the season. So really no different in principle than the alternate jerseys that we wore not too long ago, except that Clarkson has worn these more than once.
Actually, one of the players, Kolu, designed it to replicate the 1928 jersey. It will be auctioned off after the Cornell game in Potsdam.
[quote Drew]Actually, one of the players, Kolu, designed it to replicate the 1928 jersey. It will be auctioned off after the Cornell game in Potsdam.[/quote]
That's pretty cool. Any known reason why he chose 1928?
yes, ergo my reference to "Art Deco" style which is in sync with someone else's reference to the Chrysler logo.
And, a bit OT...what better example of Art Deco is there than the Chrysler Building in NYC?
I didn't think that Clarkson's third jerseys were bad at all -- especially when you consider how awful some of their other recent kits have been (like all variations with yellow as the primary color).
What makes the Clarkson uniform situation so tragic isn't the lameness of any individual version. It's the fact that they keep changing. How can a program with such a fantastic tradition -- and with such an awareness of that tradition -- be so hung up on trying to chase the latest embarrassing hockey fashion trend or institutional re-branding initiative? It doesn't bother me when UNO or Wayne State hauls out a trendoid new kit every third year -- they don't have a tradition to violate. But Clarkson shouldn't be doing that. To me, the sweater with the Rangers/Wisconsin/NMU-style diagonally lettered name will always be the Clarkson look.
[quote RichS]And, a bit OT...what better example of Art Deco is there than the Chrysler Building in NYC?[/quote]
The Chyrsler spire is classic art deco. I guess the wingy-thing logo is, too -- it's from 1924. But I still think the Clarkson wingy thing is goofy.
The mid'80s home Clarkson jersey and the home UVM jersey of the same period are my favorite hockey jerseys of all time.
The entire Chrysler Bldg...interior and exterior is quintessential art deco just to clarify but certainly the spire and gargoyles are the most visible pieces.
Referring to the Clarkson mid 80s jersey...is that the one with the script "Clarkson" across the chest?
I was "raised" on the block letter version of the early 70s (and I think they were used for all 4 of my undergrad years) and will always like that but most of the others since have been okay too. Notable exception was the Dallas Stars version of about 5 years ago which had the mustard rather than gold look.
When I asked Coach Morris about it, he acknowledged that "they didn't come out exactly like we expected." lol...Yeah they were pretty awful.
By the way, it's "gold", as in "Golden Knights" not yellow. If you check the color charts, I believe the manufacturers indicate that. That's what I was told anyhow. ;-)
[quote Hillel Hoffmann]I didn't think that Clarkson's third jerseys were bad at all -- especially when you consider how awful some of their other recent kits have been (like all variations with yellow as the primary color).
What makes the Clarkson uniform situation so tragic isn't the lameness of any individual version. It's the fact that they keep changing. How can a program with such a fantastic tradition -- and with such an awareness of that tradition -- be so hung up on trying to chase the latest embarrassing hockey fashion trend or institutional re-branding initiative? It doesn't bother me when UNO or Wayne State hauls out a trendoid new kit every third year -- they don't have a tradition to violate. But Clarkson shouldn't be doing that. To me, the sweater with the Rangers/Wisconsin/NMU-style diagonally lettered name will always be the Clarkson look.[/quote]
You are 100% correct. You have no idea how infuriating it is to a fan. Don't get me started on the yellow jerseys.
[quote RichS](1) Referring to the Clarkson mid 80s jersey...is that the one with the script "Clarkson" across the chest?
(2) By the way, it's "gold", as in "Golden Knights" not yellow. If you check the color charts, I believe the manufacturers indicate that. That's what I was told anyhow. ;-)[/quote]
(1) Not the one I'm talking about, no. I'll try to find a picture. I alo really love the old style vertical lettering, but that was on a jersey before my time.
(2) We're talking about the junior high school locker puke mustard color from the first "third jersey," right? Other than a Western Michigan jersey of about 15 years ago, that's gotta be the ugliest color I've ever seen on... well... on anything.
(3) Cornell also had a series of horrendous jerseys in the fashion-challenged 70's. One looks like the Where's Waldo? band sweaters, and another has a script "Cornell" scrawl that looks like a pee wee team. Thankfully, the return to the classic sweaters appears to be permanent.
Well, yellow jerseys probably would show up better on a Webcast than the green that becomes black (thank you CSTV). 'course, come faceoff time, any canine in the stands would probably get excited seeing six fire hydrants. Smart dogs at Lynah sitting in the home sections would see five hydrants and a yellow sieve.
God bless Cornell's timeless jerseys. Pass that along to the football team.
Hillel,
Most if not all of the recent changing can be ascribed to the short term (Thank God!) reign of the prior AD, Sean Frazier, who despite having U Maine on his resume, had no clue about D1 hockey and even less of an idea about the terrific Clarkson tradition to which you refer.
His tenure was marked by "marketing" efforts, many of which were misguided, did little or no good, and upset many loyal alumni.
To which diagonally lettered Clarkson jersey are you referring? The script version made an rc and I don't recall any diagonal lettered version being used for a long period of time.
It's "gold" not yellow and it's used because the official colors are "green and gold."
[quote billhoward]Pass that along to the football team.[/quote]
Got that right. There was a time when the CU football jerseys looked great. I don't know how they got "black" out of "Carnelian red and white."
[q]It's "gold" not yellow and it's used because the official colors are "green and gold."[/q]I thought it was the "Yellow Knights"? Yeah, that has a nice ring to it. :-D :-P
Trotsky,
(1) Vertical lettering? I don't recall one like that. Did you mean horizontal or diagonal?
(2) Yes, the mustard-colored ones were in the Dallas Stars style if I recall correctly or am I confusing it with the Michigan style script? One of those definitely had the "puke mustard" color and was almost universally disliked by Techers and Tech alumni.
(3) I had long since forgotten about the red's 70's versions that you mention until a couple of years ago when this topic came up.
As much as I like the classic stability of the uniform, imagine my "horror" when I took this HS coaching job last year and the first thing the AD shows me is the unis with the cornell scheme! Yikes, I even have to sometimes don a red turtleneck in the colder rinks we play in. I do manage to sneak it on under a Clarkson sweater...white with small green letters so NO puke yellow! :-)
I meant "diagonal."
I believe this is the one Trotsky, Page 98 (5of 7)
http://www.clarksonathletics.com/Pdfs/mhock/2005/10/19/Tradition.pdf
[quote RichS]To which diagonally lettered Clarkson jersey are you referring? The script version made an rc and I don't recall any diagonal lettered version being used for a long period of time.[/quote]
I'm probably describing it poorly: It wasn't diagonal lettering, it was block letters arranged diagonally, like the Rangers, Wisconsin, and (traditional) Northern Michigan uniforms. That's what Clarkson wore in the Ceglarski period, and then again in the early-mid 1980s.
[quote RichS]It's "gold" not yellow and it's used because the official colors are "green and gold."[/quote]
You/they can call it gold, but y'all know it ain't gold. Marketing can lie, but eyes cannot. Let me make it easy for you:
Gold: bullion, a pharoah's treasure, the Dome of the Rock, Notre Dame.
Yellow: Velveeta, pus, fluffy chicks, Clarkson.
[quote Drew]I believe this is the one Trotsky, Page 98 (5of 7)
http://www.clarksonathletics.com/Pdfs/mhock/2005/10/19/Tradition.pdf[/quote]
Hey, that's great!
In the 80's section: the one in the top right box is the one I meant. The one in the central image is the classic diagonal which I never saw in person, but which, much like Wisconsin, is timeless and gorgeous.
I would have been thrilled if they stayed with the "arched" one you refer to, (which was worn during my time there).
The diagonal is classic.
[quote Hillel Hoffmann]You/they can call it gold, but y'all know it ain't gold. Marketing can lie, but eyes cannot. Let me make it easy for you:
Gold: bullion, a pharoah's treasure, the Dome of the Rock, Notre Dame.
Yellow: Velveeta, pus, fluffy chicks, Clarkson.[/quote]And to beat Rich to the punch, we are well aware that our unis are "red" not Carnellian.
carnellian: carnellian
red: rubies, love and blood
Hillel,
It had to be early in Lenny's tenure at Tech that they wore diagonally-lettered jerseys. I'll ck the book at home toknight. In my "Lenny years" (70-72) , they wore the arched "Clarkson" design. And trust me, in those days, it was "gold" that met the eyes, not yellow. And with gold Cooper helmets too.
I can't recall the term of art for colors...is it "Pantone"...someone help me here...but I was told that the uni companies call the Tech color "gold" or whatever the industry name for it is.
That's the quasi official version I heard a number of years back from Tech. :-)
well there you go, punching me again...ouch! lol...
So why arent they called the "big carnellian"?
However, "carnellian: carnellian"?
Didn't you learn in grade school (or at cornell?) that you can't define a word by using the word?
Hey, I couldn't resist. :-D
A fairly young guy (mid 20's?) was wearing a jersey similar to the one in the top photo in my skate last night. It had gold, arched, block letters and gold shoulder boards. I don't know what year it was, but it looked pretty good. I haven't seen him before, and I play in net so I didn't get a chance to ask him about it.
Velveeta is orange.
I can confirm that. My wife just made grilled cheese sandwiches recently with Velveeta, not one of my favorite "foods" and it definitely looked like "Syracuse Orange" not "Clarkson Gold."
:-D
wait a sec...as a netminder, you have the perfect opportunity to meet him.
Trip him....gently of course...as he skates near the crease. That's what I often did, and am proud to say, rarely got called.
[quote RichS]I can confirm that. My wife just made grilled cheese sandwiches recently with Velveeta, not one of my favorite "foods" and it definitely looked like "Syracuse Orange" not "Clarkson Gold."
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Either way, it tastes like Schenectady.
That probably wouldn't have gone over well since he was on my team. He was almost always a forward, so he never was very close anyway. If he shows up next week I will ask him. I have been wearing a mesh practice jersey since it has been pretty warm this year (even most of the indoor rinks have pretty big temperature differences), but maybe I will throw on my new Chabot jersey next time.
no way man...I've been to Schenecta-@#$% as my Union buddies used to call it years ago and Velveeta is delicious compared to that.
Please...don't mention Troy next...lol
[quote RichS]no way man...I've been to Schenecta-@#$% as my Union buddies used to call it years ago and Velveeta is delicious compared to that.
Please...don't mention Troy next...lol[/quote]
Ah, finally something that Central NY and the North Country can agree on... dissing the Capital Region.
Can't we all just get along? ;-)
ah come on...everybody knows us goalies don't play with a full deck. So next time he screens you on a point shot, skate out, get in his face and then ask about the jersey.
Where do you play?
well, it's a respectful diss from me. Back in '74 after Tech absorbed a 9-3 thrashinfg at HFH, I nearly had to spend a night on a park bench in downtown Troy.
But that's a story for another day. Maybe next month in Albany. :-D
Good point. I just play pick-up rec games in Plattsburgh and Chazy, NY right now. Would like to get into a "B" league, but at the moment all of the teams are set for goalies. I have only been playing regularly for a year, but I played occasionally a few years back in Utica on nights when there was only one goalie. Always wanted to play hockey growing up, but played basketball whole life. Much cheaper. Played street hockey often as a kid and was always goalie for that so decided to stick to it when I started playing for real. I like the challenge of being the last resort, especially on break-aways. Wish I could have afforded real hockey when I grew up. Also, not too many opportunities in S.E. Connecticut in the '80's.
[quote KeithK]Yes, third jerseys that will be auctioned at the end of the season. So really no different in principle than the alternate jerseys that we wore not too long ago, except that Clarkson has worn these more than once.[/quote]
And, BTW, those "third jerseys" of ours were also butt-ugly. Makes me glad we don't tinker with the design on a regular basis.
[quote Trotsky][quote billhoward]Pass that along to the football team.[/quote]
Got that right. There was a time when the CU football jerseys looked great. I don't know how they got "black" out of "Carnelian red and white."[/quote]
With the exception of Princeton's helmet, Ivy League football uniforms have gotten lamer and lamer over the last 15 years. I miss the diagonal-striped crew P on the Penn helmet, the coat of arms on the Brown helmet, even the crazy D-in-the-front for Dartmouth.
Useless FYI: Velveeta was invented (do you "invent" cheese?) in Orange County, NY.
[quote JasonN95]Useless FYI: Velveeta was invented (do you "invent" cheese?) in Orange County, NY.[/quote]
That explains the color.
You answered your own question...read the label and you'll see it's not "really" cheese. Something tells me you knew that already...:-D
The same way so many pro teams in all sports decided they need black in their unis. The Knicks, Devils, and Mets, e.g.
Thank God for the Yankees! :-)
[quote jtwcornell91]With the exception of Princeton's helmet, Ivy League football uniforms have gotten lamer and lamer over the last 15 years. I miss the diagonal-striped crew P on the Penn helmet, the coat of arms on the Brown helmet, even the crazy D-in-the-front for Dartmouth.[/quote]
Harvard and Yale have kept theirs the same for a long time, and I think that's a good thing. What's lame is a new look every few years.
[quote RichS]The same way so many pro teams in all sports decided they need black in their unis. The Knicks, Devils, and Mets, e.g.
Thank God for the Yankees! :-)[/quote]
Although the Yankees are occasionally guilty of wearing their dark blue practice jerseys in games. Stick with the pinstriped whites at home and the greys on the road.
[quote RichS]
Thank God for the... delete "Yankees", insert "Red Sox"! :-)[/quote]
How many teams at any level have good 3rd jerseys. Look at the yellow Bruins jerseys. At least the Sox red jerseys aren't horrible, but they certainly aren't the classics of the normal unis.
Talk about thread drift. :-}
[quote cth95]
At least the Sox red jerseys aren't horrible, but they certainly aren't the classics of the normal unis.[/quote]
Actually, they are horrible. If the sports gods wanted major league baseball teams to wear red, blue, orange or any other colored tops--or tops that don't button down the front--they wouldn't have had to invent softball.
true. See, if you guys had just believed me when I said the color is "gold", then Drew would never have had to mention "orange" re: Velveeta and we'd still be on topic. :-)
How did you do that?:-(
Put the Yankkes back!
And btw, any Red Sox jersey is horrible by definition. :-}
I don't like them, but they could be worse. They do have sleeves unlike some of the newer jerseys. I don't think red is a bad color, however. Especially as related to this forum :-) , and that it is far better than yellow.
Really?
I can't recall ever having seen them in a game. But if so, I agree.
Aren't they actually what they warm up in during BP, etc rather than practice jerseys?
better than yellow perhaps but no way is it better than gold and that's what Tech wears! ;-)
By the way, just to add some irony here. One of my high school's biggest rivals wore green and gold, although not quite the same shade of green. I grew up hating that color combo; until I got to Potsdam of course.
Anyone here dislike red pre-college?
[quote RichS]How did you do that?:-(
Put the Yankkes back!
And btw, any Red Sox jersey is horrible by definition. :-}[/quote]
Just busting you with a little cut-and-pasting in the quote. I couldn't resist. I wasn't expecting such a reaction. Thanks for the good laugh.
I hate the Yankees, but I do respect both the Sox and Yankee classic styles. I am glad that there is now a little red mixed into to the Sox away unis, unlike in the 80's when the "Boston" was just dark blue with no border, though. Those were too boring.
Sorry about the thread drift everyone else.
What...no telephones down south? :-}
As far as I know, the Yankees do not wear blue tops in games except during spring training. They only started doing that fairly recently too. When I was a kid I was very proud of the fact that my team didn't wear cheesy practice jerseys in Florida games.
The Red Sox red jerseys are absolutely awful. The Mets orange is worse, but their both horrid. I'd almost rather watch the Pirates in their 1979 mustard uniforms or the Astros in the orange rainbow.
Whatever his other faults (and he has many, many, many) at least Steinbrenner firmly believes in Yankee tradition. I'm not worried about new style uniforms in the Bronx while he's alive.
[q]Useless FYI: Velveeta was invented (do you "invent" cheese?) in Orange County, NY.[/q]Of course you can invent cheese. Someone just did it a few thousand years ago.
I actually had maroon for my high school color. Talk about supporting your biggest rival now. I thought darker colors like that and dark green seemed classier and less cheap back then, but I quickly appreciated how red on a classy (and classic) jersey really stands out well. I think poor designs are easier to get away with with less vibrant colors as shown by some of our crappy football jerseys people mentioned. Incidentally, I have always found this true of cars as well. A bright red Nissan Sentra (just to pick an econobox) looks cheap, while a red Porsche looks classy. A maroon Sentra isn't a Porsche, but looks at least somewhat tasteful. My dad went to Clarkson, so I have always had a t-shirt or two from there with some green and yel.. (excuse me) gold.
Must be the Spring Training games that John was thinking of because in a regular season game, I've never seen them wear blue. And I'm also hoping that George never succumbs to suggestions to have the name on the back of the jersey!
The Pirates were the first to wear the God-awful double knit jobs...the once that let us all know how "big" Willie Stargell really was. Far worse than those or the '79 version or even the Astros rainbow ones was, in my opinion, the disaster the Padres wore.
Speaking of mustard.
After years of wearing Yankee pinstripes, I wonder how Graig Nettles felt dressing like a clown?
[q]And I'm also hoping that George never succumbs to suggestions to have the name on the back of the jersey![/q]As Michael Kay would say, "No name.........of course."
QuoteJTW wrote:
Although the Yankees are occasionally guilty of wearing their dark blue practice jerseys in games.
I was ready to jump in and say only in spring training - but then I scanned down and I see Keith and Rich S. have also weighed in on that accord.
[quote RichS]After years of wearing Yankee pinstripes, I wonder how Graig Nettles felt dressing like a clown?[/quote]
Filthy rich.
[quote RichS]
Anyone here dislike red pre-college?[/quote]
I was remarkably consistant in team colors. My high school was red & white (the Rams), as was my junior high. I guess that makes sense though, cause they were the only high school and junior high in town.
Of course, my only experience with red & hockey (never watched HS hockey) was the Red Wings, who I despise - because they won twice in a row, and because Brendan Shanahan's a douchebag (I grew up a Whalers fan). And, on the Whalers note... the Hurricanes, because Karmonos is an even greater douchebag who's wet dream is to own the Red Wings - but since he couldn't afford them, he figured he'd just buy a small market team, move them, and make the new uniforms look like the Wings.
So therefore, the first time I saw the Red step into Lynah, I had to overcome the natural revulsion to the color scheme on ice. Didn't take long though :)
Of course, all this means I still have a soft spot for green & blue. Not enough of that in hockey anymore.
Not a surprising response but I don't recall that he signed for a lot more than the riches he already had earned in the Bronx. Or was it actually less than George paid him?
[quote RichS]Not a surprising response but I don't recall that he signed for a lot more than the riches he already had earned in the Bronx. Or was it actually less than George paid him?[/quote]It was exactly what George had signed him for. I'd long thought that Nettles signed as a FA, but baseball-reference.com lists it as a trade: Nettles for Dennis Rasmussen and PTBNL (minor leaguer Darin Cloninger).
Rasmussen is or was the answer to a trivia question which had something to do with his being a lefty who won 20 games as a Yank.
Is Darin C a relation to Tony Cloninger? Tony is the answer to another great trivia question.
More thread drift, eh?
[quote RichS]
Tony is the answer to another great trivia question.
More thread drift, eh?[/quote]
Since you're playing jeopardy, the question is "Name the only pitcher and first National Leaguer to hit 2 grand slams in a game?"
[quote jkahn]
Since you're playing jeopardy, the question is "Name the only pitcher and first National Leaguer to hit 2 grand slams in a game?"[/quote]
Coulda sworn that was Bob Gibson. I know he's the answer to *another* trivia question about a pitcher and two homeruns. Maybe the only P to hit two homeruns in a WS game?
I can't recall the term of art for colors...is it "Pantone"...someone help me here...but I was told that the uni companies call the Tech color "gold" or whatever the industry name for it is.
In the trade there is a uniform definition of colors. The colors would be Pantone ____, something alpha numeric. Thus one can specify an exact Pantone color for Clarkson's yellow. There is a seperate pantone book that would have metalic colors where one could find gold and silver.
-WillR
[quote RichS]More thread drift, eh?[/quote]
Even John Spencer doesn't want to touch this one. ;-)
[quote billhoward]I bet Cornell is using cheap cameras, eg $500 or $2,000, not $10,000, and they have trouble dealing with the relatively low light at Lynah. Watch a replay of the Harvard game (upcoming) feed when broadcast quality cameras are used because it's a televised game. You'll still get the pixellation and low-res, but there'll be much better shadow detail and a dark jersey such as Clarkson's will be green not off-black.[/quote]
Last year, i2Sports (or whatever the hell they're called) was using couple-year-old $2000ish prosumer Canon crap in the corners. The team camera was an even older, even crappier rented lump, but not as old and crappy as the one with the burned-out CCD I was getting the feed from when I ran the webcast. Bandwidth and framerate aside, image quality is up against a very thick glass ceiling given the source. The one game I did with the feed from a professional crew for a televised game was so markedly better it was shocking, even without touching the bitrate. As long as you have monkeys pointing crappy cameras in a dark rink, the outcome is very predictable.
Ok, Thanks...so all I have to do now is find the # for Clarkson's Pantone GOLD! :-D
Beat ya to it.:-D
I previously mentioned his name yesterday in this thread, I believe.
now THAT's a great trivia question which was repeated a lot during his years coaching in the Bronx.
A fellow Whaler's fan! Not too many of us around, although there are more than I would have expected. I saw all three Howes play when I was a little kid. Agree with you on Shanahan (certainly no Dineen) and definitely on Karmanos. What an a**hole he was when made the offer about keeping the team if a certain number of season tickets were bought. Fans did an awesome job, doubling season tickets for last season in Hartford, but, of course, all that did was add to Karmanos's pockets since he obviously never intended to honor the deal.
[quote RichS]However, "carnellian: carnellian"?
Didn't you learn in grade school (or at cornell?) that you can't define a word by using the word?[/quote]I didn't, Rich. I defined the color carnellian by the gemstone carnellian.
nah, you still can't do that. :-)
Sure he can. But he should post a picture of the gemstone to make it clear...
And many of us just have to look at our right hand to see an example. It's the stone in the traditional class ring.