It's not an option in the poll, but my vote would be for (1) hockey; (2) tickets; and, (3) other Cornell sports. Personally, I have little interest in discussing topics like John Spencer on eLynah, but if there's enough "other" demand, then make (4) other miscellaneous.
I don't think there's enough interest here in any other single Cornell sport to justify its own forum--especially in the sport's off-season--but there probably is sufficient interest among lacrosse, football, and, for a few of us at least, wrestling, to justify an inclusive forum for "other sports." Such a forum would also provide a place for the occasional thread on some of the sports that receive infrequent mention here at times when there is something noteworthy to be reported or discussed.
I like that break down and agree with you about the "other" column. I don't look to this forum for non-Cornell or non-hockey information.
Please use the "John Spencer is Dead" Forum to discuss OT topics.
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Putting other sports in a separate message list would be fine if it generates crtical mass. It might. If not, I don't have a problem with the football and lacrosse threads right here, especially since they're in the off season for the most part.
There should either be a John Malkovich Is Stuck Betwween Floors list for esoteric, non-sports, non-Cornell discussions, or it just shouldn't get posted, and if it does, it should be moved out of the main list. And no, there's nothing wrong with a sysop also being arbiter and editor of taste - democracies with no rules and no policing don't stay free and open for long.
Yes, there should be a separate ticket forum.
[quote billhoward]And no, there's nothing wrong with a sysop also being arbiter and editor of taste - democracies with no rules and no policing don't stay free and open for long. [/quote]
I get the feeling that Age doesn't want to have to police ELF a lot, save for extreme situations. And he probably doesn't trust any of us to do it either.
It's a most charitable thing he has done making eLynah available - sheesh, I almost typed evailable - and it's understandable to want to limit your time invested beyond what's currently sunk. We'll see what happens during lax season, if the Other Sports list gets used for lax or if it stays on the main forum.
I like the new set up. Admittedly, it is because of my own somewhat obsessiveness, but I like to have all of the hockey threads read and marked off. When other threads are included I may not really feel like reading some of them, but it bugs me to leave them marked as unread. When they are in other fora it doesn't bother me to not read them right away.
I know, certainly not much of an argument to put against everyone else's reasons.
P.S. Maybe we need a separate "Rich S." forum for those on here to argue with him when his and your productive interactions break down into trading insults. :-D
I don't mind the once in a while or timely OT-marked post on other Cornell Sports or hockey in general. I might not even know that we had a kickass wrestling squad if it were not posted here.
If we must live with another forum for other Cornell Sports (sigh) then let's make sure it is for Cornell sports. Right now they are discussing the Rose Bowl and non-Cornell college football all mixed in with Cornell Sports.
I would humbly suggest that the "Other Sports" forum be a "Other Cornell Sports or Hockey" forum. Otherwise it is just as irrelevant as John Spencer. There are plenty of places for that.
[quote Roy 82]If we must live with another forum for other Cornell Sports (sigh) then let's make sure it is for Cornell sports. Right now they are discussing the Rose Bowl and non-Conrell college football all mixed in with Cornell Sports.
I would humbly suggest that the "Other Sports" forum be a "Other Cornell Sports or Hockey" forum[/quote]
Good point. I was inferring that the new forum was for this, but it is not clear and may not be.
[quote Roy 82]I would humbly suggest that the "Other Sports" forum be a "Other Cornell Sports or Hockey" forum. Otherwise it is just as irrelevant as John Spencer. There are plenty of places for that.[/quote]
That was my suggestion in the thread-opener. I also don't object to having other Cornell sports discussed in the main forum--with the obligatory OT notation. I agree that the Rose Bowl is of about as little relevance here as John Spencer.
Once there's a separate not-Cornell-hockey sports forum, there's the danger you're already seeing, that it goes all over the place. When the OT posts were on the main hockey forum, there's some self-restraint because you needed to not go too far overboard.
Gee, what's with the thread nazi's all of a sudden... Oh no! They're discussing the wrong OT sports on the wrong OT sports forum! We must put an end to this!
I definitely agree with Bill, that by putting the OT forums, its encouraging OT posting. Rather than the very rare OT post here, they're now a regular feature elsewhere. Plus its leading to all this anal retentiveness about what goes where.
[quote DeltaOne81]Gee, what's with the thread nazi's all of a sudden... Oh no! They're discussing the wrong OT sports on the wrong OT sports forum! We must put an end to this![/quote]
Godwin's Law notwithstanding, I think you're taking the meta-discussion too personally. Multiple fora is a new structure for us, so it's natural to sort of feel around everyone's take for how the division should work, to work out what the consensus is.
It didn't really seem to me that we needed an OT. Unlike many other forums, its rare threads get bumped to the second page until they are truly dead. (The one exception is the ticket thread, which by all means should have its own forum).
At least bring Cornell Sports back on to the main page. I like just seeing the score, even without opening the thread.
[quote jtwcornell91][quote DeltaOne81]thread nazi[/quote]
Godwin's Law notwithstanding,[/quote]
It was more a Seinfeld reference... is there a Jerry's Law? :-P