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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: colo83 on January 05, 2006, 09:08:53 AM

Title: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: colo83 on January 05, 2006, 09:08:53 AM
Where does one go, this year, to find the computers rankings? Thanks.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: jtwcornell91 on January 05, 2006, 09:45:46 AM
Actually, I just tossed this up last night (which means it might not be bullet-proof; please email jtw24 with problems) http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?rankings.diy

Other sites have less-geeky, more-friendly versions of assorted rankings as well.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Omie on January 05, 2006, 02:24:46 PM
This site has RPI, PWR, KRACH Rankings that get updated to the minute.

http://siouxsports.com/hockey.php

Also in the PWR rankings if you click on the school it will show all the comparisons for that school by which ones they won or lost.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: ursusminor on January 05, 2006, 04:27:06 PM
Another site with those rankings and several others http://www.rpihockey.net/misc.rank1.shtml.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: French Rage on January 05, 2006, 05:19:58 PM
If I read the PWR right, Niagara becoming a TUC and improving our TUC record will only flip the Harvard comparison.  Otherwise, we still lose our loses due to a poor RPI and common opponents.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: jtwcornell91 on January 05, 2006, 06:57:33 PM
BTW, we should be thankful our game against RIT doesn't count, since even a win would almost certainly hurt our RPI.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Trotsky on January 06, 2006, 11:44:17 AM
[quote jtwcornell91]we should be thankful our game against RIT doesn't count[/quote]
Pardon?
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Give My Regards on January 06, 2006, 11:59:22 AM
[quote Trotsky]
Pardon?[/quote]

He said, "we should be thankful our game against RIT doesn't count" :-)

(I think it's been mentioned before, but as a new DI team RIT is serving a two-year probationary period of some sort, and will not be eligible for the NCAA tournament until 2007-08.  Ineligible teams are not counted in the RPI/PWR rankings.)
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Chris 02 on January 08, 2006, 12:53:13 PM
I noticed this morning that http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr.php and http://www.rpihockey.net/misc.rank1.shtml have vastly different rankings for Cornell.  I wonder if one of them incorporated the game we now have played against RIT and the other didn't.  From reading on here, I understand the game will not be included in the pairwise computation due to RIT not playing the requisite number of D-I games.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 08, 2006, 01:04:17 PM
[quote Chris 02]II wonder if one of them incorporated the game we now have played against RIT and the other didn't.[/quote]
Both seem to think we're 9-3-2 (a .714 percentage), which is the record discounting the RIT game.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: ursusminor on January 08, 2006, 05:01:40 PM
It looks like the RPI on the North Dakota page has not been adjusted for quality wins even though there are columns where this could be taken into account. Note that there are two RPI columns and they are identical.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: jtwcornell91 on January 08, 2006, 07:06:01 PM
[quote Chris 02]From reading on here, I understand the game will not be included in the pairwise computation due to RIT not playing the requisite number of D-I games.[/quote]

Actually, I think they play enough games, they're just on probation because it's their first year in D1.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: KeithK on January 08, 2006, 08:30:55 PM
O count 25 DI games on RIT's schedule, plus two against Robert Morris (in the same boat they are) and DIII games against Oswego, Fredonia and Geneseo.  Twenty is the minimum, so they meet that standard.
Title: RIT/RMU
Post by: jtwcornell91 on January 08, 2006, 10:55:40 PM
[quote KeithK]two against Robert Morris (in the same boat they are)[/quote]

Actually, I think RMU is in a different boat.  They were already D1, but had no varsity hockey team, while RIT already had a hockey team, but were D3.  So RIT has probation and RMU does not.
Title: Re: RIT/RMU
Post by: KeithK on January 09, 2006, 03:35:31 AM
That distinction doesn't really make sense to me.  I would think starting a program is the same thing whether you're moving up from DIII or starting from scratch.  but who says NC$$ ruls have to make sense?
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: ursusminor on January 09, 2006, 03:45:07 AM
I think that the distinction is that RMU is a D-I school in all sports while RIT is a D-III school playing D-I hockey.
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Robb on January 09, 2006, 09:49:18 AM
Yeah, ursa - I think we understand WHAT the distinction is, just not WHY that should be a distinction.   ::screwy::
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: ursusminor on January 09, 2006, 11:32:25 AM
[quote Robb]Yeah, ursa - I think we understand WHAT the distinction is, just not WHY that should be a distinction.   ::screwy::[/quote] D-III schools haven't been properly blessed by the NCAA heirarchy. :-D
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: jy3 on January 09, 2006, 03:08:34 PM
some interesting tidbits I noticed.
LSSU and Cornell have no common opponents. hopefully this will go CUs way when LSSU play mich state at the end of the year. they would need to take no more than 1 point.
hahvahd and SLU(T) can be flipped with wins in the ECAC, especially over them :)
uvm has some tough games ahead...
fsu losing to mich state would be helpful
and of course the big red winning out would be quite helpful. it is early and not every team is connected by common opponents so that should change things.
gonna be interesting.
now to find a home game to which i can go :)
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Trotsky on January 09, 2006, 03:25:38 PM
Winning out would be 14 + 4 = 18 games!  Man, I'll just take a sweep this weekend...
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Josh '99 on January 09, 2006, 04:15:19 PM
[quote jy3]and of course the big red winning out would be quite helpful. it is early and not every team is connected by common opponents so that should change things.[/quote]Bit early to be talking about winning out, isn't it?
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: KeithK on January 09, 2006, 04:40:35 PM
[quote Trotsky]Winning out would be 14 + 4 = 18 games!  Man, I'll just take a sweep this weekend...[/quote]No, winning out would be 14 + 4 + 4 = 22 games.  National Champions, baby! :-D  (But I know what you were getting at...)

Edit: Twice in one day.  I really should stop posting at work.  *shakes head sadly*
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Give My Regards on January 09, 2006, 06:01:44 PM
[quote KeithK]No, winning out would be 14 + 4 + 4 = 18 games.[/quote]

There are three kinds of people in the world:  those who can do math, and those who can't  ;-)
Title: Re: Rpi ratings etc.
Post by: Josh '99 on January 09, 2006, 11:13:38 PM
[quote fenwick][quote KeithK]No, winning out would be 14 + 4 + 4 = 18 games.[/quote]

There are three kinds of people in the world:  those who can do math, and those who can't  ;-)[/quote]Huh, I would've figured JDeafv would've made the analogous joke about binary by now.  :-D