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Title: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: daredevilcu on November 21, 2005, 04:06:52 PM
USCHO:
1   Michigan   (31)   9-1-1   787   1
2   Wisconsin   ( 8)   9-1-2   760   2
3   Colorado College   ( 1)   11-2-1   728   3
4   Maine      9-3-0   678   4
5   Vermont      9-2-0   572   8
6   Boston College      5-3-1   569   6
7   Minnesota      6-3-3   515   10
8   North Dakota      8-5-1   479   7
9   New Hampshire      7-4-1   450   9
10   Miami      7-2-1   440   12
11   Cornell      4-3-1   421   5
12   St. Lawrence      9-3-0   353   15
13   Denver      5-5-2   320   11
14   Harvard      6-2-0   278   19
15   Colgate      7-2-2   245   17
16   Alaska-Fairbanks      5-3-2   202   14
17   Bemidji State      8-2-0   137   16
18   Michigan State      5-5-3   103   13
19   Clarkson      8-3-1   90   NR
20   Boston University      3-4-1   74   18
Others Receiving Votes: Providence 56, Ferris State 37, Ohio State 30, Northern Michigan 29, Rensselaer 26, Mercyhurst 8, Nebraska-Omaha 4, Union 3, Minnesota-Duluth 2, Niagara 2, Quinnipiac 1, St. Cloud State 1


INCH:
1. Michigan
2. Wisconsin
3. Colorado College
4. Maine
5. Vermont
6. Minnesota
7. Boston College
8. North Dakota
9. Miami
10. UNH
11. Harvard
12. Colgate
13. Denver
14. SLU
15. Alaska-Fairbanks
16. Clarkson
17. Cornell
18. Bemidji State
19. Providence
20. Ferris State

Dropped Out: Michigan State, Northern Michigan, Lake Superior State

Bubble-licious: Dartmouth, Ohio State, Rensselaer, Michigan State
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2005, 04:10:58 PM
Largest difference I can recall between the polls.

Edit: oh, never mind, it's INCH.  I'd expect USAToday to be in the 11-13 range.
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: redhair34 on November 21, 2005, 04:18:32 PM
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

 oh, never mind, it's INCH[/q]

 (thinking of their power ratings over the past few seasons)::laugh::
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: duffs4 on November 21, 2005, 04:19:06 PM
Maybe now we can get the bullseye off our back.
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: daredevilcu on November 21, 2005, 04:35:13 PM
As far as I can tell, the USA Today rankings aren't out yet.  I think the INCH rankings are a little extreme.  I find it hard to believe that Cornell should drop below ALL the other ranked ECACHL teams (particularly Clarkson since we haven't really played anyone of consequence yet).
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: RichH on November 21, 2005, 04:43:46 PM
I always take the INCH "Power Rankings" to be more of a subjective measure of team momentum...whatever that means.
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: marty on November 21, 2005, 04:45:51 PM
[Q]daredevilcu Wrote:

 As far as I can tell, the USA Today rankings aren't out yet.  I think the INCH rankings are a little extreme.  I find it hard to believe that Cornell should drop below ALL the other ranked ECACHL teams (particularly Clarkson since we haven't really played anyone of consequence yet).[/q]

On the other hand, why would the USCHO poll have us above



(http://www.colgate.com/Colgate2in1/US/Framework/images/Products/product_icyblast.jpg)


::screwy::
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: KeithK on November 21, 2005, 04:59:51 PM
We're above Colgate because we were ranked #5 last week and they were #17.  It means that the voters had higher expectations for us than they had for the guys from hamilton.  It's November - expectations still have a lot to do with poll rankings.  Rightly so, because there's lots of time to play up to expectations.
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 21, 2005, 05:36:40 PM
[Q]KeithK Wrote:

 We're above Colgate because we were ranked #5 last week and they were #17.  It means that the voters had higher expectations for us than they had for the guys from hamilton.  It's November - expectations still have a lot to do with poll rankings.  Rightly so, because there's lots of time to play up to expectations.[/q]

Let's see how many times we can say expectations in a paragraph. :-P
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: KeithK on November 21, 2005, 05:40:03 PM
[q]Let's see how many times we can say expectations in a paragraph. [/q]I'm an engineer.  Rules against reuse don't apply in technical writing.  Or at least that's what I tell myself. :-P

Edit: It's all a question of expectations.  :-D
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 21, 2005, 05:43:15 PM
[Q]KeithK Wrote:


I'm an engineer.  Rules against reuse don't apply in technical writing.  Or at least that's what I tell myself.  

Edited 1 times. Last edit at 11/21/05 05:40PM by KeithK.[/q]

Only for the bigger words.;-)
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: Josh '99 on November 22, 2005, 01:06:58 AM
[Q]duffs4 Wrote:
Maybe now we can get the bullseye off our back.[/q]I don't think any figurative bullseye has been the problem.
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: RichH on November 22, 2005, 01:34:12 AM

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine
Men's College Hockey Poll - Nov. 21, 2005
                   Last Weeks in
No. Team        Points      Record   Week  top 15
1.  Michigan        506 (31)    9-1-1    1       8
2.  Wisconsin        477 (3)       9-1-2    2      8
3.  Colorado College   445      11-2-1    3       8
4.  Maine       408       9-3-0    4        8
5.  Vermont       346       9-2-0    9       6
6.  Boston College    314       5-3-1    5       8
7.  Minnesota       285       6-3-3   10       8
8.  North Dakota    258       8-5-1    8       8
9.  New Hampshire    233       7-4-1    7       8
10. Miami (Ohio)    228       7-2-1   11       4
11. Cornell      160       4-3-1    6       8
12. St. Lawrence    139       9-3-0   15       2
13. Denver       96       5-5-2   12       8
14. Harvard       82       6-2-0   NR       3
15. Colgate      35       7-2-2   NR       1

Others receiving votes: University of Alaska Fairbanks, 29; Clarkson
University, 12; Bemidji State University, 11; Mercyhurst College, 6;
The Ohio State University, 4; Boston University, 3; Michigan State
University, 3.
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: Harrier on November 22, 2005, 02:46:23 PM
I miss the ranking of the top 10 collegiate hockey teams.  Lets face it - this is not basketball where there are a million programs.  I put a fair amount of faith in their ability to rank the top 10 teams...when you get to the 15 and 20 top programs in hockey you are getting to the middle-of-the-road teams in the college hockey landscape and lots more subjectivity...not to mention the mediocrity of the "bubble" teams at that point.  CU was clearly expected to be a top 10 team and they clearly are not at this point - though the team could certainly get there.
Title: Re: 11/21 Polls/Rankings
Post by: KeithK on November 22, 2005, 04:21:24 PM
I second the idea that top 20 is ridiculous.