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Title: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: HeafDog on November 15, 2005, 05:50:11 PM
What's a good way to get score updates on one's cell phone via text message (for the only team we care about, obviously)? Do ESPN or Yahoo offer anything like this?  Are any eLynah folks out there currently subscribing to such a service?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: pfibiger on November 15, 2005, 06:11:40 PM
cstv offers it, but it's just thescore at the end of the game. sometimes you get it 15 minutes later, sometimes you get it the next day.

http://www.cstv.com/wireless/alerts.html
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: Tub(a) on November 15, 2005, 06:11:54 PM
I don't know about text score updates for college hockey, but they have updates on 800-555-TELL for free.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: Beeeej on November 15, 2005, 06:24:24 PM
[Q]HeafDog Wrote:
Are any eLynah folks out there currently subscribing to such a service?[/q]

When I can't be at a game or follow it online, I often subscribe to my brother.  He's very reasonably priced.

Beeeej
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: underskill on November 15, 2005, 06:25:45 PM
you can get it through cingular also
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: GTSnowracer on November 15, 2005, 06:56:40 PM
There is a wap.elynah.com....does anybody know if it would be possible to stick scores up there somehow?  Can't find college hockey scores anywhere on cell phone internet.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 15, 2005, 07:39:41 PM
[Q]GTSnowracer Wrote:

 There is a wap.elynah.com....does anybody know if it would be possible to stick scores up there somehow?  Can't find college hockey scores anywhere on cell phone internet.[/q]

Yeah you can, although it may be provider specific (Cinguar).

The key is internet and net text messaging. The text messaging options that are available, as Phil said, only are after the game and may take who knows how long to show.


Anyway, there's this "Scoreboard" option on my cell phone (not obviously affiliated with ESPN or anything) that has about every score ever. From the major leagues to Grapefruit League baseball to Arena Football and CFL to college hockey. Some scores will just say "start time: 7 PM" all game, but most are updated pretty well.

The 'View URL' function for the main Scoreboard page gives me:
http://dmxml.infospace.com/_1_37KT9603T2RUK6__cingular.wap/redirs_xhtml.xhtml?pgtarg=spt

If it works, bookmark it :)

If you're on Cingular, just go to wireless web on your phone, then Sports (5), then Scoreboard (8).
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: redhair34 on November 15, 2005, 08:23:20 PM
Speaking of score updates...(pathetic attempt at relating with current thread)

Sucks leads BC 3-0 in 2nd period...all 3 goals on the pp
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: redhair34 on November 15, 2005, 08:42:57 PM
Sucks leads 4-1 end of 2nd
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: Tub(a) on November 15, 2005, 08:43:22 PM
[Q]redhair34 Wrote:

 wow Sucks leads 4-0 now[/q]

Awesome.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: redhair34 on November 15, 2005, 09:41:15 PM
BC scores three unanswered goals but Sucks still leads 4-3 with about 4mins. left in the 3rd...lets hope BC doesn't pull a Cornell
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 15, 2005, 09:47:52 PM
You guys must be lying... according to GameTracker the game hasn't started yet... and GameTracker never lies!  ::nut::
Title: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: redhair34 on November 15, 2005, 09:54:22 PM
Sucks gets an ENG in the final seconds.  According to USCHO posters BC dominated the 3rd period but Sucks was able to hold on.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 15, 2005, 09:58:21 PM
[Q]redhair34 Wrote:

 Sucks gets an ENG in the final seconds.  According to USCHO posters BC dominated the 3rd period but Sucks was able to hold on.[/q]
Harvard held on thanks to a great save by the crossbar with 30 or so seconds to go.  ENG goal came shortly thereafter.

Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 15, 2005, 10:03:36 PM
Am I crazy to think the ECAC may actually have something this year?
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: Tub(a) on November 15, 2005, 10:05:52 PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 Am I crazy to think the ECAC may actually have something this year?[/q]

The WCHA 8-ball says: "Signs point to Yes."
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: jy3 on November 15, 2005, 10:08:30 PM
isnt  there a 1800 number for scores?
1-800-555-tell
sports
college hockey
cornell
not always well updated...
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 15, 2005, 10:25:45 PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]GTSnowracer Wrote:

 There is a wap.elynah.com....does anybody know if it would be possible to stick scores up there somehow?  Can't find college hockey scores anywhere on cell phone internet.[/Q]
Yeah you can, although it may be provider specific (Cinguar).

The key is internet and net text messaging. The text messaging options that are available, as Phil said, only are after the game and may take who knows how long to show.

Write a cron job to query USCHO or CHN's score page every 10 minutes, and when it has a new result, access the web or email interface to your cell phone's text messages.[/q]

Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: judy on November 15, 2005, 10:42:28 PM
[Q]pfibiger Wrote:

 cstv offers it, but it's just thescore at the end of the game. sometimes you get it 15 minutes later, sometimes you get it the next day.[/q]

And sometimes, the game is for example...Cornell 5, Princeton 3. The score comes to you as Cornell 3, Princeton 5. There's a bit of a difference in those scores...like a win.

I signed up for something a couple of years ago...with whatever was the predecessor to last year's edition of of "give us money and we give you access to games, scores, highlights, extras" etc. with, I want to say OCN.  collegehockey something or other, yup that's helpful. I think it got swallowed into the whole cstv thing (like ya know how your credit cards or mortgage might get sold to another company)...
So, this was from that first season when Cornell, Brown and Princeton were going into the "pay for coverage" business model as I get scores for these three schools.
I don't really trust them which is why I still end up asking someone to give me updates.

Edit: ya, it did get taken over by cstv.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: HeafDog on November 15, 2005, 11:56:08 PM
[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

Write a cron job to query USCHO or CHN's score page every 10 minutes, and when it has a new result, access the web or email interface to your cell phone's text messages.[/Q]
[/Q]

I guess that's the best we'll be able to do for now.  If I get around to doing it and test it out and it's working well, I'll let people know.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: pfibiger on November 16, 2005, 10:41:38 AM
[Q]HeafDog Wrote:

 [Q2]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

Write a cron job to query USCHO or CHN's score page every 10 minutes, and when it has a new result, access the web or email interface to your cell phone's text messages.[/Q]
[/Q]
I guess that's the best we'll be able to do for now.  If I get around to doing it and test it out and it's working well, I'll let people know.[/q]

I was thinking that it'd be almost as easy to write a web app that you could tie to elynah logins w/ age, and let people subscribe to sms updates and then allow people who are sitting around listening to / watching the game to send score updates to the group from the app. So it wouldn't just be an end game score, as long as the total # of smses was sane, you could have updates every time the score changed. The only relatively complex part of the problem is making sure that updates happen, while not allowing duplicate data (two people issuing the same update).

Ok, maybe it would be more work..but it'd also be way cooler :)
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: GTSnowracer on November 16, 2005, 12:43:38 PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
Anyway, there's this "Scoreboard" option on my cell phone (not obviously affiliated with ESPN or anything) that has about every score ever. From the major leagues to Grapefruit League baseball to Arena Football and CFL to college hockey. Some scores will just say "start time: 7 PM" all game, but most are updated pretty well.

The 'View URL' function for the main Scoreboard page gives me:


If it works, bookmark it [/q]

Awesome, it worked!  Thanks a lot (btw, i have Verizon, i just added DeltaOne81's link to my favorites in my phone)
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: ninian '72 on November 16, 2005, 02:06:08 PM
If at all.  Didn't receive any scores at all last weekend.  Judy's right about taking scores with a grain of salt.  Last spring the Lynah East score they sent out was Cornell 1 Sucks 0.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: HeafDog on November 16, 2005, 02:55:57 PM
[Q]pfibiger Wrote:

...allow people who are sitting around listening to / watching the game to send score updates to the group from the app. So it wouldn't just be an end game score...[/Q]

And this would be necessary because USCHO or CHN's page doesn't update during the game all the time, right?  Or are you suggesting this so as to just get score updates more quickly than those sites?
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: Liz '05 on November 16, 2005, 04:56:40 PM
[Q]HeafDog Wrote:

 [Q2]pfibiger Wrote:

...allow people who are sitting around listening to / watching the game to send score updates to the group from the app. So it wouldn't just be an end game score...[/Q]
And this would be necessary because USCHO or CHN's page doesn't update during the game all the time, right?  Or are you suggesting this so as to just get score updates more quickly than those sites?[/q]

Speaking from zero experience with this matter:
Possibly to allow you to get more info than those pages.  Presumably eLynah users could send out the score along with the goal info.  For example:
"Cornell 1, Union 0
4:48 1st, Moulson (Scott, Bitz) PPG"
or whatever the correct format for that is.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: judy on November 16, 2005, 05:02:54 PM
[Q]Liz '05 Wrote:

Possibly to allow you to get more info than those pages.  Presumably eLynah users could send out the score along with the goal info.  For example:
"Cornell 1, Union 0
4:48 1st, Moulson (Scott, Bitz) PPG"
or whatever the correct format for that is.[/q]

Mailing list from the game's designated updater.
US cell phone numbers can be emailed...for example, Verizon is @vtext.com
This comes to you as a text message.

I've got the domains for most of the other carriers somewhere in my email archive as I've done this a few times for people. This does not mean I'm volunteering to do this for all future games.

Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: HeafDog on November 16, 2005, 05:28:23 PM
[Q]judy Wrote:

 [Q2]Liz '05 Wrote:

Possibly to allow you to get more info than those pages.  Presumably eLynah users could send out the score along with the goal info.  For example:
"Cornell 1, Union 0
4:48 1st, Moulson (Scott, Bitz) PPG"
or whatever the correct format for that is.[/Q]
Mailing list from the game's designated updater.
US cell phone numbers can be emailed...for example, Verizon is @vtext.com
This comes to you as a text message.

I've got the domains for most of the other carriers somewhere in my email archive as I've done this a few times for people. This does not mean I'm volunteering to do this for all future games.

[/Q]

Judy, when you get the chance, please post that information about email address equivalents for US cell phones.

Also, yes, I wouldn't hold you to volunteering to post the information for every game.  The point is to come up with something that is completely automated, from subscription to unsubscription to seeing the goods on your cell.  With this in mind, there's a good chance that an automated solution would not be able to have details such as those Liz described.  But the more human intervention any solution requires, the more of a pain it is to keep going once it's set up, not to mention the fact that it potentially opens up the risk of sabotage (with bogus postings) or duplicate text messages with the same info.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: judy on November 16, 2005, 08:02:44 PM
The major carriers:
AllTel
 <10digitphonenumber>@message.alltel.com

Ameritech/SBC Paging
 1way = <10digitphonenumber>@paging.acswireless.com
2way = <10digitphonenumber>@airmessage.net

AT&T Wireless  Blackberry or SMS =
username@mobile.att.net  or
<10digitphonenumber>@mobile.att.net
The address(es) are case sensitive and must be in lower case letters.

Cingular Wireless  Blackberry or SMS =
<10digitphonenumber>@mobile.mycingular.net

Nextel  Phone = <10digitphonenumber>@messaging.nextel.com

Qwest  <10digitphonenumber>@qwestmp.com

Sprint PCS  Phone = <10digitphonenumber>@messaging.sprintpcs.com

TMobile  <10digitphonenumber>@tmomail.net

Verizon Wireless Cellular  <10digitphonenumber>@vtext.com

Note that I had found these almost a year ago. I don't really know the liklihood of stuff like this changing. I know at least the Verizon one works. I have no idea how this works with number portability. I was using this at my old job to send txt messages to myself when stuff stopped running or otherwise broke

So all we need now is a database of people's phone numbers and carriers and possibly some sort of job.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: billhoward on November 16, 2005, 08:33:48 PM
Last year when I was traveling, someone at eLynah or even realLynah would send me scores updates to my phone. It is more efficient than worrying about CSTV or ESPN or someone sending out scores. The occasional typos and multiple exclamation points made it all the more authentic.

Usually you can negotiate with the friend to send you scores after each period, or scores as they happen, or scores after each period and then anything in the final period that's exciting, say if the score is close, or if it's any goal scored against Harvard.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: RichH on November 16, 2005, 08:46:38 PM
[Q]judy Wrote:

So all we need now is a database of people's phone numbers and carriers and possibly some sort of job. [/q]

Or some method of "signing up" to recieve score updates for a particular game, and a designated person to send them out to the distribution list on that night.  This person could be a rotating list of volunteers from game to game.


Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: RichS on November 17, 2005, 12:14:55 PM
But of course, a shot that hits the crossbar or post is not a SOG...and thus there was no "save".

In case anyone here did not know that.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 17, 2005, 12:41:13 PM
[Q]RichS Wrote:
 But of course, a shot that hits the crossbar or post is not a SOG...and thus there was no "save".

In case anyone here did not know that.[/q]


I know you and Al don't get along, but I'm gonna try to head this one off before it starts.

[Q]"great save by the crossbar"[/Q]

Al specifically said it was a save by the crossbar, not by the goalie. It's a separate 'stat' from the goalie saves in the box score. Yes, we know that. Take your unnecessary, inappropriate cheap shots elsewhere please.

I hope that completes the discussion.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: HeafDog on November 17, 2005, 02:43:10 PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]RichS Wrote:
 But of course, a shot that hits the crossbar or post is not a SOG...and thus there was no "save".

In case anyone here did not know that.[/Q]
I know you and Al don't get along, but I'm gonna try to head this one off before it starts.

[Q2]"great save by the crossbar"[/Q]
Al specifically said it was a save by the crossbar, not by the goalie. It's a separate 'stat' from the goalie saves in the box score. Yes, we know that. Take your unnecessary, inappropriate cheap shots elsewhere please.

I hope that completes the discussion.[/q]

Al, RichS, and DeltaOne81, please threadjack somewhere else.  This thread is for score updates on a cell phone.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 17, 2005, 03:32:48 PM
[Q]HeafDog Wrote:

 [I hope that completes the discussion.[/Q]
Al, RichS, and DeltaOne81, please threadjack somewhere else.  This thread is for score updates on a cell phone.[/q]
Screw you.  redhair posted several updates on the Harvard game on this thread and I added an additional observation to it.  Learn to read.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: Rich S on November 17, 2005, 03:52:05 PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]RichS Wrote:
 But of course, a shot that hits the crossbar or post is not a SOG...and thus there was no "save".

In case anyone here did not know that.[/Q]
I know you and Al don't get along, but I'm gonna try to head this one off before it starts.

[Q2]"great save by the crossbar"[/Q]
Al specifically said it was a save by the crossbar, not by the goalie. It's a separate 'stat' from the goalie saves in the box score. Yes, we know that. Take your unnecessary, inappropriate cheap shots elsewhere please.

I hope that completes the discussion.[/q]

The only "cheap shot" taken here was by you.

Al and I 'not getting along' has nothing to do with my response.  I even said that I made the post in case anyone here does not know that".  That is in no way a "cheap shot".

You didn't head off anything; rather you tried to instigate something.  Take your "unnecessary, inappropriate" and unwanted comments elsewhere.  Please.

A separate stat in the boxscores for crossbars dinged?  I'd like to see that.  Where?

I'd say Al made the comment in an unofficial reference in the sense that the bar saved the shot or saved the goalie's butt.   But in an official sense, a "crossbar save" is an oxymoron given the definitions of "save" and "shot on goal".  As an old goalie and goalie coach I think I know these things.

Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: HeafDog on November 17, 2005, 04:08:53 PM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]HeafDog Wrote:

Al, RichS, and DeltaOne81, please threadjack somewhere else.  This thread is for score updates on a cell phone.[/Q]
Screw you.  redhair posted several updates on the Harvard game on this thread and I added an additional observation to it.  Learn to read.[/Q]

Thank you for the heartfelt response.  You're right.  redhair34, please don't threadjack.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: KeithK on November 17, 2005, 04:13:12 PM
Come on people.  Don't start flame wars when they're not necessary.  Even if there was a little teasing in Rich's initial comment (I read it that way initially) it was extremely innocous.  I doubt anyone would've blinked if I'd made the same comment.  Don't be too quick to see fights - you'll end up starting them as often as not.

I would like to see a post save stat though.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: redhair34 on November 17, 2005, 06:00:23 PM
 [Q2]HeafDog Wrote:


Thank you for the heartfelt response.  You're right.  redhair34, please don't threadjack.[/q]


I sincerely apologize most honorable thread creator; forgive my most unfortunate error in judgment ::rolleyes::


If you are viewing the thread in a flat view click "switch view" on the top of your screen.  Now you will see that my initial post and all subsequent relevant replies are linked to a single response.  Now all you have to do is refrain from reading any additional posts under my initial response and you won't be bothered by posts unrelated to "Score updates on one's phone? "  If this doesn't satisfy you then please resume your gentle sobbing.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: KeithK on November 17, 2005, 06:21:58 PM
[q]If you are viewing the thread in a flat view click "switch view" on the top of your screen. Now you will see that my initial post and all subsequent relevant replies are linked to a single response. Now all you have to do is refrain from reading any additional posts under my initial response and you won't be bothered by posts unrelated to "Score updates on one's phone? " If this doesn't satisfy you then please resume your gentle sobbing. [/q]:`(  But :`(  I :`(  don't :`(  like :`(  threaded :`(  view.
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: redhair34 on November 17, 2005, 07:26:32 PM
You're not alone :-P
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 18, 2005, 10:05:48 AM
If that post was not meant as a shot at Al, I apologize.

I/we've accussed Rich before of always looking for a negative connotation and if I am guilty of the same, I should realize it and keep an eye out for that behavior in myself now and in the future.

I intended to head off a dispute before Rich & Al got into one of their back and forths, but if I caused the problem, I am certainly big enough to admit my mistake.


P.S. Just for clarification, I didn't intend to say that "saves by crossbar" is a stat in a box score, I intended to say that "saves by crossbar" is different from the "saves by goalie" stat, the latter of which you would find in a box score. Just so you don't think I'm crazy :-)
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: HeafDog on November 18, 2005, 10:32:54 AM
[Q]redhair34 Wrote:

  [Q2]HeafDog Wrote:


Thank you for the heartfelt response.  You're right.  redhair34, please don't threadjack.[/Q]
I sincerely apologize most honorable thread creator; forgive my most unfortunate error in judgment  


If you are viewing the thread in a flat view click "switch view" on the top of your screen.  Now you will see that my initial post and all subsequent relevant replies are linked to a single response.  Now all you have to do is refrain from reading any additional posts under my initial response and you won't be bothered by posts unrelated to "Score updates on one's phone? "  If this doesn't satisfy you then please resume your gentle sobbing.
[/Q]

Kind of sounds like clicking "Switch View" is just about as easy as clicking "New Topic" would have been for you.  It's just three links over to the left.  Try it sometime.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 18, 2005, 10:40:17 AM
Yeah, but it's still an annoying View to use :-P
Title: Re: Sucks 5 BC 3 FINAL
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 18, 2005, 12:00:32 PM
[Q]KeithK Wrote:

 Come on people.  Don't start flame wars when they're not necessary.  Even if there was a little teasing in Rich's initial comment (I read it that way initially) it was extremely innocous.  I doubt anyone would've blinked if I'd made the same comment.  Don't be too quick to see fights - you'll end up starting them as often as not.[/q]

Amen!

[Q]I would like to see a post save stat though.[/q]

During the mini-trough of the late 90s, we were playing from behind a lot and accumulated a good amount of empty-net time with only one goal against.  It became an amusing  diversion to keep track of the empty net's GAA.  It was better than half of Clarkson's goalies. :-D This was also the season of the Nick Boucher incident, as a result of which the empty net ended up with a save and an assist. :-D
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: ninian '72 on November 03, 2006, 01:36:24 PM
Time to revive this one again.  CSTV is only offering football and basketball scores so far this season.  The Cingular links for collegiate and all other sports I tried are dead.  Any other options out there for text message scores?  I can't always be near a computer Friday/Saturday nights, and have come to rely on these messages.
Title: Re: Score updates on one's phone?
Post by: underskill on November 03, 2006, 01:46:55 PM
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/info/?d=wireless

that has a link to their score updates for cell phones