::banana::
Yes they do!
I'll see your ::banana::, and raise you ::banana::::banana::
Someone should make a dancing red banana with a HARVARD SUCKS sign.
If anybody cares, Harvard sucks even further as the Cornell University Rugby Football Club beat Harvard at our new pitch this weekend to advance to the final 4 of the Northeast regional.
LGR
Further evidence of Harvard's suckitude is always welcome.
Dartmouth swallows.
http://athletics.dartmouth.edu/sports/m-hockey/mtt/swallow_kevin00.html :-}
As a former rugger, albeit only while in grad school, I care. Thanks for the update.
Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history?
[Q]XXX Wrote:
Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/q]
There's certainly a history, though I'll leave it to others to explain that. I can understand the Yale rivalry, what with The Game and all. But Dartmouth? Why?
[Q]XXX Wrote:
Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/q]
So then why so few students at the recent Dartmouth game? I was there. They weren't.
Recent years Harvard has seemed to care a bit. When I first lived in Boston in fall of 98, Lynah east would be almost entirely Cornell. When I left Boston in 2004, it was much closer to 50/50. Their fans were coming out for that game, not many others from what I saw. I thnk they care now, if only because the atmosphere there for that game is actually fun!
[Q]redhair34 Wrote:
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Hmm, so for signs, do I go with "YACEY'S MOM HAS GOT IT GOING ON" or "SWALLOW SWALLOWS"?
[Q]jbeaber1998 Wrote:
Recent years Harvard has seemed to care a bit. When I first lived in Boston in fall of 98, Lynah east would be almost entirely Cornell. When I left Boston in 2004, it was much closer to 50/50. Their fans were coming out for that game, not many others from what I saw. I thnk they care now, if only because the atmosphere there for that game is actually fun![/q]
Wouldn't you want a chance to see the team that loses in the first round of the NCAAs every year?
Harvard fans probably cross themselves whenever Cornell skates on the ice, or shows up in force in Boston. Our being there reminds them of that darkest Cantabridgean fear, that a computer error wrongly sent out the thick envelope from Harvard Admissions, and through some kind of Groundhog Day mixup they'll live their college years over again but in Ithaca, or Providence, or Middlebury ... and they'll have to earn those A's.
Cornell alums don't have that fear. Only that nightmare when we come back on campus that we still have due that last required paper for graduation.
[Q]XXX Wrote:
Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/q]
Yale, yes. Dartmouth? In what, Divison I-AA Drinking?
Nothing compares to football among the Harvard community, but hockey is second, with Cornell and the Beanpot the main source of what little energy the students can manage after an entire day saving the world one joint at a time in the Square.
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XXX Wrote: Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/q]
Snarky comments aside, this is a fair question. (Although if you could care less, that implies that you do care some...sorry...pet peeve)
Frankly, there's little argument to infiltrate the all-encompassing grandness of the Harvard-Yale rivalry. I can't say from first-hand experience, but it's a hunch that it exists in some form in all aspects of campus life. From centuries old New England academic superiority that no doubt crosses over to the legendary gridiron rivalry. (Personally, Army-Navy and Harvard-Yale are my 2 favorite football rivalries). As much as it burns Princetonians, who so desperately want to be included, Harvard-Yale is about as great and storied a rivalry as one could hope for.
When only considering Men's Ice Hockey, however, it's been a 2 horse race for the better part of 40 years now. A back-of-the-envelope tabulation of Ivy League hockey championships since the formal organization of the Ivy League in 1956-57:
Harvard 19
Cornell 18
Yale 6
Brown 5
Dartmouth 5
Princeton 1
Penn 0
Columbia What Me Worry?
Source: http://ivyleaguesports.com/sports/ivy-champs.asp?intSID=8
As you can see, it's obvious there are 2 dominant programs. Two heavyweights butting heads for that long...there's going to be a lot of hate. On the Cornell campus, hockey is the marquee sport. Not so in Cambridge. The result? A so-called (for the fans) one-sided rivalry.
That said, CU teams, fans, and Canadian recruiting practices have often succeeded in giving sports writers from the Crimson fits. Besides the now infamous Volonnino article, this has been going on for decades. Credit to Scersk '97 for his research this past spring:
fans, Lynah
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=248526
Attendance, 9300
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=250113
One of First griping on Canada
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=172589
Harvard being outcheered
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=251015
Sour Grapes on our National Title
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=250695
reference to frats and ag school, Harvard gets own canadian goalie
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=494633
Love Story, Cornell and Dartmouth win
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=351070
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=351389
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=351597
NCAA against Canadians
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=351588
Lumping Clarkson with Cornell and Canadians
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=351588
The McGuinn Crimson Cup and ineligibility
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=351807
Undefeated team not invincible, typicality of "we're number one" chants
at Watson
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=351828
1970 team crushes harvard at Lynah
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352289
Harkness leaves
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352892
Nice on the Yacey's Mom one, but I'm pretty sure he graduated. They're starting Sean Samuel now, I think.
[Q]daredevilcu Wrote:
Nice on the Yacey's Mom one, but I'm pretty sure he graduated. They're starting Sean Samuel now, I think.[/q]
Dammit! I'm getting too old.
[Q]RichH Wrote:
[Q2]XXX Wrote:
Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/Q]
Snarky comments aside, this is a fair question. (Although if you could care less, that implies that you do care some...sorry...pet peeve)
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I was going to say something more along the lines of "let's point at the Cantab's poor language skills and laugh." ::laugh::
i think the reason you're seeing more harvard "fans" at lynah east has been due to harvard's ticket policies these past years. (remember- the 6page package, not selling to visiting teams, etc). this year may return to the cornell trend due to that online glitch, in which i suspect that most of the seats they hoped to sell to townies went to elynah people who saw the link online.
yeah, i was really looking forward to yacey's mom but realized he had graduated as well. we'll start a separate thread for signs/cheers
-mike
So you're thinking of a sign, "Dov, You're Gone, We Miss You, and You Still ... "?
[Q]A-19 Wrote:
i think the reason you're seeing more harvard "fans" at lynah east has been due to harvard's ticket policies these past years. (remember- the 6page package, not selling to visiting teams, etc). this year may return to the cornell trend due to that online glitch, in which i suspect that most of the seats they hoped to sell to townies went to elynah people who saw the link online.
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The ticket package two years ago was one thing, but what did they do last year that made it more like 50/50? Not saying nothing was done, but I'm wondering what the strategy was.
I agree, we have a larger chance this year to bring it more back Cornell's way than in the recent past, due to 'the glitch'.
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Cornell alums don't have that fear. Only that nightmare when we come back on campus that we still have due that last required paper for graduation. [/q]
You have that nightmare, too? ::scared:: I thought I was the only one. ::whistle::
Oh Bill, that's priceless...in a self-serving sort of way, of course...:-D
But today, I'm wondering how anyone could say "Harvard sucks"?
Just last night, one of your favorite Cantabs, Dominic Moore, scored a Gretzky-like goal from behind the goal line with three secs left in regulation to tie it up for the Rangers against Florida.
Today, I "love" Harvard...in a self-serving sort of way as a Rangers fan. :-}
[Q]Rich S Wrote:
Oh Bill, that's priceless...in a self-serving sort of way, of course...
But today, I'm wondering how anyone could say "Harvard sucks"?
Just last night, one of your favorite Cantabs, Dominic Moore, scored a Gretzky-like goal from behind the goal line with three secs left in regulation to tie it up for the Rangers against Florida.
Today, I "love" Harvard...in a self-serving sort of way as a Rangers fan. [/q]
Actually, he scored a DMoore-on like goal. See Hahvahd @ Cornell, February 1, 2002.
[Q]RichH Wrote:(Although if you could care less, that implies that you do care some...sorry...pet peeve)[/q]That's funny. My pet peeve is people getting exercised about the intentional, sarcastic use of an expression to mean its exact opposite. ("Literally," "fat chance," "I love you," etc.) It has a long tradition as idiomatic English. I'd be shocked if it didn't happen the same way in other languages.
"Was that irony?"
"I don't even know anymore."
[q]That's funny. My pet peeve is people getting exercised about the intentional, sarcastic use of an expression to mean its exact opposite. ("Literally," "fat chance," "I love you," etc.) It has a long tradition as idiomatic English. I'd be shocked if it didn't happen the same way in other languages.[/q]Some people may use it sarcastically, but I suspect the majority just use it ignorantly. So I'm with Rich here. :-P
[Q]KeithK Wrote:
[Q2]That's funny. My pet peeve is people getting exercised about the intentional, sarcastic use of an expression to mean its exact opposite. ("Literally," "fat chance," "I love you," etc.) It has a long tradition as idiomatic English. I'd be shocked if it didn't happen the same way in other languages.[/Q]
Some people may use it sarcastically, but I suspect the majority just use it ignorantly. So I'm with Rich here. [/q]Whether it is sarcastic or ignorant is somewhat besides the point. (Though I would argue that more people use the expressions sarcastically than you do.)
It is idiomatic; nobody is confused about the speaker's meaning. Slate had a column about the use of "literally" a few weeks ago (http://www.slate.com/id/2129105/fr/rss/).
Regardless of whether it's idiomatic and has a history of usage, I still think it's a stupid usage. Just my not so humble opinion, of course.
Moore had two more for the Rangers tonight. Did these two remind you of any of his goals while at Harvard?
[Q]Rich S Wrote:
Moore had two more for the Rangers tonight. Did these two remind you of any of his goals while at Harvard? [/q]
Life's too short to waste time watching Ranger games.
[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:
Life's too short to waste time watching Ranger games.[/q]
That explains Kevin Weekes.
The nuances of the English language aside, Harvard sucks!
Intesting note, and rare show of respect for the rivalry, from wednesday's Crimson:
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And for all the fan hype leading up to Friday’s Cornell gameâ€"it is, after all, The Game for Harvard hockeyâ€"Saturday’s contest against Colgate should not be lost in the shuffle. [/q]
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=509798
Also, a bit off topic, the crimson ran a column blasting one of the sun's columns.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=508700
I'll be first in line to criticize the Sun most of the time, but it seems like the piece in the Crimson was a little much.
[q]In a column published in the Cornell Daily Sun, staff writer Tim Kuhls broached an interesting topic of Ivy debateâ€"athletic scholarshipsâ€"and proceeded to make himself look like an idiot.[/q]
Article in Wednesday's Crimson refers to the Cornell-Hahvard game in Lynah East as 'The Game' of Hahvard hockey. Perhaps some of them care?
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=509798
[Q]ugarte Wrote:
It is idiomatic; nobody is confused about the speaker's meaning. Slate had a column about the use of "literally" a few weeks ago.[/q]
I believe Steve Rushin had an article (Air & Space?) in SI a year or two ago about the misuse of the word "literally" in sports reporting/broadcasting. Not prepared to do a search for it right now, however. It was quite funny.
[Q]ugarte Wrote:
[Q2]RichH Wrote:(Although if you could care less, that implies that you do care some...sorry...pet peeve)[/Q]
That's funny. My pet peeve is people getting exercised about the intentional, sarcastic use of an expression to mean its exact opposite. ("Literally," "fat chance," "I love you," etc.) It has a long tradition as idiomatic English. I'd be shocked if it didn't happen the same way in other languages.[/q]
I'm very confident that the initial use here wasn't intentional (nor was its use ironic, sarcastic, or funny). It's a very commonly misused idiom. It should be "Harvard students couldn't care less."
[Q]Chris '03 Wrote:
I'll be first in line to criticize the Sun most of the time, but it seems like the piece in the Crimson was a little much.
[Q2]In a column published in the Cornell Daily Sun, staff writer Tim Kuhls broached an interesting topic of Ivy debateâ€"athletic scholarshipsâ€"and proceeded to make himself look like an idiot.[/Q]
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Mein Gott. I didn't go back to re-read the Sun article, but the Crimson article that it spawned is borderline unreadable. My favorite gem:
[Q]There are myriad angles from which to attack this ponderous dilemma.[/Q]
Keep in mind that at this point he hadn't even mentioned that there was a dilemma, much less that it was a "ponderous" one. What the heck is a ponderous dilemma, anyway?
Ah well, at least I'll now know a ponderous article about athletic scholarships when I see one...
or Devils games so far this year!
ever hear of ESPN's Sport Center? :-D
[Q]Robb Wrote:
Mein Gott. I didn't go back to re-read the Sun article, but the Crimson article that it spawned is borderline unreadable. My favorite gem:
[Q2]There are myriad angles from which to attack this ponderous dilemma.[/Q]
Keep in mind that at this point he hadn't even mentioned that there was a dilemma, much less that it was a "ponderous" one. What the heck is a ponderous dilemma, anyway?
Ah well, at least I'll now know a ponderous article about athletic scholarships when I see one...[/q]
"Ponderous dilemma" is a phrase one uses when trying to look a lot more intelligent than one actually is in all likelihood.
Put it another way: O-ver-rate-d *clap clap clapclapclap*. :-D
Harvard Sucks.
It had to be said from a Sucks IP address...:-D
::banana:: ::banana:: ::banana::
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Cornell alums don't have that fear. Only that nightmare when we come back on campus that we still have due that last required paper for graduation. [/q]
lol, so u have this recurrent nightmare as well?!
just to make sure everyone understands hahvahd sucks
::drunk::
*
Bump. Harvard still sucks.
::banana:: ::banana::
And the dancing bananas still agree.
my wife wanted me to add for her, harvard still sucks
Four days!!!
Beeeej
[quote Beeeej]Four days!!![/quote]
AND THEY STILL SUCK! :-) :-P
Three days.
[quote Trotsky]Three days.[/quote]
And sucks still sucks.
sucks! ::dribble::
TWO DAYS!!! ::rock::
Beeeej
Bump... less than 90 minutes :-D