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Title: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 12:45:28 PM
There's a gametracker for this one, which looks like it might be a "last team with the ball wins" offensive fest.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 12:49:00 PM
So far nothing on the video webcast.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Rita on October 22, 2005, 01:05:37 PM
No cornell video but brown audio.
it is me or them? i was able to get video for the hahvahd game a couple of weeks ago....
so i'm leaning more towards "THEM".
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 01:07:35 PM
[Q]Rita Wrote:

 No cornell video but brown audio.
it is me or them? i was able to get video for the hahvahd game a couple of weeks ago....
so i'm leaning more towards "THEM". [/q]
I'm on hold calling the CSTV customer service.  I note there's nothing on Gametracker, either.

Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 01:10:45 PM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]Rita Wrote:

 No cornell video but brown audio.
it is me or them? i was able to get video for the hahvahd game a couple of weeks ago....
so i'm leaning more towards "THEM". [/Q]
I'm on hold calling the CSTV customer service.  I note there's nothing on Gametracker, either.[/q]

Good luck with that. 35 minutes to get a "we are out of ideas" last week.

Nothing yet for me either!!!
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:15:30 PM
Early 1Q:
Cornell (1-1)  7 Brown (1-1) 0
Dartmouth (0-2)  7 Columbia (0-2)  0
Princeton (1-1)  9 Harvard (1-1)  3

Later:
Yale (2-0) at Penn (2-0)
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 01:15:34 PM
I can't speak to the accuracy of this, but the person I spoke with at the customer service number said that "Cornell canceled the feed on us."  Brown is providing an audio feed.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:17:33 PM
2Q:
Dartmouth 7 Columbia 3
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 01:17:47 PM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 I can't speak to the accuracy of this, but the person I spoke with at the customer service number said that "Cornell canceled the feed on us."  Brown is providing an audio feed.[/q]

Quality. I don't like getting what I pay for anyways  ::screwy::

EDIT: I can't access the Brown audio w/o paying. This is messed up.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:18:55 PM
The audio feed off the Cornell site sounds like a rotary phone being dialed.  What's the URL for the working Brown feed?
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: DeltaOne81 on October 22, 2005, 01:20:29 PM
Where are you guys accessing audio? Even when I click on 'Listen', the only choice I get is the video feed.

Edit: I get the same story from CSTV (and as soon as I described the problem the guy said, "Cornell?"), someone's gotta get their act straight if they expect us to pay for this.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Rita on October 22, 2005, 01:31:27 PM
I thought i heard the brown announcers say that the game was not being televised, and that would explain why no video feed.

Since i'm at work most weekends, i did cough up the $$$ for all-access football thus I can access the brown audio.  (apparently north-west/central indiana  is not in the range for norte dame games over the radio. maybe hoosiers consider southbend to be a suburb of chicago... who knows).

however, if you only signed up for the cornell all access, you probably won't have access.

btw, did anyone find out what the deal is for all-access hockey? I sent an email but they didn't answer my question, and i  won't have time to follow up on it until the week of the 31st. however, any advice on who to talk to etc. would be appreciated.

Rita
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:34:01 PM
From ESPN:

Cornell 7 Brown 7, end of 1Q
Title: Re: [FB] 2d Q: Cornell 10, Brown 7
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 01:35:00 PM
Gametracker is working. Cornell just kicked at 37yd FG to start the 2d Quarter.

Cornell 10, Brown 7.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 01:35:10 PM
Gametracker, now up, shows Cornell up 10-7 on a field goal after a deep drive stalled.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: RichH on October 22, 2005, 01:37:15 PM
Well, that's great.  I was going to buy the all-access today in preparation for hockey season, but reading this, I'm leaving my credit card in my wallet.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:39:30 PM
Scoring so far

Cor Kuhn 4 run; Weitsman.
Brn DiGiacomo-Schreck 24 pass; Morgan.
Cor Weitsman 37 FG.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:42:03 PM
Brn Morgan 25 FG.

10-10.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:42:54 PM
Princeton 17 Harvard 10, 2Q.
Title: Re: [FB] Q2: Brown 10, Cornell 10
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 01:42:56 PM
Brown settles for a 25 yard FG after having a TD called back because of a holding penalty. Tie game. 11:29 remaining in the 1st half.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 01:47:21 PM
Hartigan has 13 yards in 7 carries.  83 yards passing hurting us.  Also kickoff and punt returns for huge yardage.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 01:49:05 PM
Cornell kick coverage is apparently awful. For the third straight time, Brown starts their drive in Cornell territory. Losing the field position battle against a team that can move the ball is going to hurt.

EDIT: As if on cue, Cornell stops Brown, but a good Brown punt leaves Cornell starting its drive on its own 3 yard line.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:58:55 PM
Interesting that Brown declined a Cornell delay penalty to make the punt tighter.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 01:59:55 PM
Hah!  Brown starts on their own 1.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 02:00:06 PM
As if on cue, the Big Red says "field position this, ugarte" and has a sustained drive that ends with a punt that starts Brown on its own 1.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 02:00:15 PM
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

 Interesting that Brown declined a Cornell delay penalty to make the punt tighter.[/q]

Didn't work. :-P
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 02:03:45 PM
Interception Cornell! Matt Grant stops a Brown drive by picking off the ball at the Cornell 27.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: DeltaOne81 on October 22, 2005, 02:04:32 PM
[Q]Rita Wrote:

btw, did anyone find out what the deal is for all-access hockey? I sent an email but they didn't answer my question, and i  won't have time to follow up on it until the week of the 31st. however, any advice on who to talk to etc. would be appreciated. [/q]

Rita,

where you the one that started the other thread about it that I responded to? There was a press release earlier in the season saying that Cornell hockey and football video would be included. Hopefully you see this response :)

The athletic department will get an email from me this week.
Title: Re: [FB] Halftime: Brown 10, Cornell 10
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 02:04:52 PM
Time expires. 10 - 10 at the half.

The teams are moving the ball up and down the field, but not quite the scoring bonanza that a lot of people (including me) expected.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 02:06:58 PM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
The athletic department will get an email from me this week.
[/q]
Just sent a short one to Noel.  Expect a response sometime after Thanksgiving.

Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 02:18:12 PM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
The athletic department will get an email from me this week.
[/Q]
Just sent a short one to Noel.  Expect a response sometime after Thanksgiving.[/q]
This Thanksgiving?
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 02:24:52 PM
[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 [Q2]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
The athletic department will get an email from me this week.
[/Q]
Just sent a short one to Noel.  Expect a response sometime after Thanksgiving.[/Q]
This Thanksgiving?[/q]
Some Thanksgiving.

Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 02:33:44 PM
I think we've got "false start" down pat.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 02:34:55 PM
Looking over the Gametracker, it appears that Brown's kick return play involves pitching/lateraling/reversing the ball. Pretty effective so far.

They squandered the field position they got, though. Cornell with a fair catch on the 16 turned into a 15 yard return with a personal foul on Brown.

Cornell's first drive of the third quarter starts on their own 31.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 02:41:40 PM
After stopping Brown, Cornell once again starts the drive on their own 3. Dammit!

Update before posting: Cornell picks up 7 on the first play and 11 on the second, so they are out of the shadow of the goalpost already.

EDIT: Almost to midfield. Maybe I should just stop bitching about field position.

Nah.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 02:48:41 PM
[Q]ugarte Wrote:
EDIT: Almost to midfield. Maybe I should just stop bitching about field position.

Nah.[/q]
A 50-yard drive starting at midfield--instead of the 3--would be nice.

Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 02:49:59 PM
Helluva drive, I'd say.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 02:53:27 PM
Kickoff coverage really sucks.  Did we scout them?

Giving up a TD on the ensuing kickoff after finishing a 97-yard drive for the go-ahead score must really be deflating.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown 17 at Cornell 17 (3Q)
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 02:54:20 PM
(I just realized that Al only implied that we scored a TD at the end of a 97 yard drive. We did, including a 4th and 3 conversion from midfield.)

Brown answers by returning the kickoff for a TD. Cornell kick coverage continues to stink.

2:33 left in the 3d.

(EDIT 2: Al also realized this. Which, since we may be the only two people currently reading the thread, makes the constant editing amusing. To me, anyway.)
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 02:55:54 PM
We've got the 21-yard kickoff return down pat, too.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Rita on October 22, 2005, 02:58:29 PM
Hi delta one,
Actually, I was wondering about listening to feeds from other schools besides cornell.
I tried 2 weeks ago to listen to a udenver game, but was denied access. I haven't tried, too hard since then, but will be able to try tonight.

With REAL AUDIO, if you bought the college sports pass ($13.95/month v. ~ $5.00 per month single school access) you could listen to every sport with an audio feed from all the schools in their network, hockey, mens/womens hoops, football etc.  I am NOT impressed with cstv. The is an all "all" access football pass for $60, and apparently there will be an all "all" access pass for hoops.

Thus, if say i wanted to listen to norte dame hockey, i would have to buy the norte dame school all access pass, however, the nd football games are covered by the $60 i already shelled out for all "all" access football.

Rita
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:01:27 PM
[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 I think we've got "false start" down pat.[/q]

Obviously. We got another to end the 3d quarter. End of 3, Cornell 17, Brown 17.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown 17 at Cornell 17 (4Q)
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:03:02 PM
Bad news: We had to punt.
Good news. Fair catch.

Brown starts at their own 12.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown 17 at Cornell 17 (4Q)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 03:04:12 PM
Fumble recovery at their 18!
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:04:21 PM
Brown fumbles! Cornell ball on the Brown 18! Let's GO RED!!!
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 03:06:03 PM
[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 Brown fumbles! Cornell ball on the Brown 18! Let's GO RED!!![/q]
Quick TD!

But now we have to kick off.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 03:09:02 PM
No.  Not an 85-yard TD pass.  This is too much.
Title: Re: [FB] Cornell 24, Brown 24 (4Q)
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:09:23 PM
Siwula for 6, Siwula for 9, Siwula for 3. Touchdown Cornell!

Cornell 24, Brown 17.

And before I can post, Brown scores on an 85 yard pass. 24-24.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:10:40 PM
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but the video is now up. ::cuss::
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:11:28 PM
1Q Cor Kuhn 4 run; Weitsman.
1Q Brn DiGiacomo-Schreck 24 pass; Morgan.
2Q Cor Weitsman 37 FG.
2Q Brn Morgan 25 FG.
3Q Cor Kuhn 1 run; Weitsman.
3Q Brn Markey 92 kickoff return; Morgan.
4Q Cor Siwula 3 run; Weitsman.
4Q Brn DiGiacomo-Schreck 85 pass; Morgan.

24-24, early 4Q.  Cornell driving at mid field.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 03:12:36 PM
The dreaded "false start" again.:-(  ::help::
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:13:13 PM
Big pass play to about midfield.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:16:50 PM
Drive stalled at the Brown 47. Punt to the 10, stopped on the 10. Good coverage this time, I guess.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:18:09 PM
3 and out for Brown, they'll punt from their EZ.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:18:41 PM
Crap.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:18:41 PM
Time for a good return of our own.

I don't see anything in Gametracker, but I don't like the looks of Greg's "Crap."
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 03:19:01 PM
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

 3 and out for Brown, they'll punt from their EZ.[/q]
And we cough up the fair catch.

Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:19:05 PM
oh god.

bobbled snap on the Brown punt, Cornell player called for fair catch as he was running backwards, fumbled as one would expect. Brown ball on the Cornell 30.

Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:20:19 PM
flea flicker completion to the cornell 12, great catch.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:22:01 PM
Brown 3rd and 3 from the 5 -> TD
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:22:16 PM
Princeton 27 Harvard 24, F.
Northwestern 49 Michigan State 14, F (yikes).
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:23:06 PM
Hardigan 5 run gives Brown their first lead of the game.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:23:16 PM
Brown punches it in. 30-24 BRown, kick pending.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:23:54 PM
[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 Brown punches it in. 30-24 Brown, kick pending.[/q]
Kick is good. 31-24.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:24:04 PM
Dartmouth 17 Columbia 6, F.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:25:12 PM
Jackson ran about 80 yards to get it to the 25.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:27:25 PM
Kuhn hit from behind, fumble, Brown ball at the Cornell 20ish.

Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Al DeFlorio on October 22, 2005, 03:27:50 PM
We're giving away a game we should have won.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:28:35 PM
Ugh. Cornell fumble on its own 23. 6:17 remaining. That could be death.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:29:08 PM
Still plenty of time, but we need a hold and a missed FG.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:29:24 PM
Defense doesn't seem interested in stopping the same running play two plays in a row. 1st and goal from the 9.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:30:06 PM
TD Brown, another run. This should do it, 5:01 left in the game.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:30:30 PM
Hardigan 10 TD run; good night and good luck.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:33:23 PM
Brown 38, Cornell 24. *Sigh*

Undone by awful special teams and a very poorly timed turnover.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:34:35 PM
3rd and 1 already, at about the Cornell 40
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Tub(a) on October 22, 2005, 03:34:59 PM
1st down, ball at the 47 with 4:25 left.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:36:39 PM
4th and 3 on the 46.  This is it.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Trotsky on October 22, 2005, 03:37:08 PM
Incomplete.  Oh well.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:40:44 PM
Cornell has begun calling desperation timeouts. 2:55 remaining. 3d and 13 for Brown at their own 43. One TO left.
Title: Re: [FB] Final: Brown 38, Cornell 24
Post by: ugarte on October 22, 2005, 03:50:51 PM
Wrap it up. Brown 38, Cornell 24 in a game that the Red could have won. Probably setting up Brown v. Penn to decide if the championship is split between them or if Penn takes it themselves.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Scersk '97 on October 22, 2005, 06:34:46 PM
Bah, I predict that two losses will "win" (tie for) the championship for only the third time in the history of the League.  Let's go parity!

Of course, in my mind, this all depends on a Big Red Franklin Field victory to tie it all up.  I won't say "improbable Franklin Field victory," since, contrary to my instincts, we're not that bad in games against Penn when the Ivy title is on the line (defined as having a chance to win or share the title if things go our way on the last weekend):


Year  H/A  Winner     Ivy Champ(s)
1958  A    Cornell    Dartmouth
1971  A    Cornell    Cornell/Dartmouth
1980  H    Cornell    Yale
1986  H    Penn       Penn  (Ivy Bowl)
1988  H    Cornell    Penn/Cornell  (Ivy Bowl)
1990  H    Cornell    Cornell/Dartmouth
1995  A    Penn       Princeton
1999  A    Cornell    Yale/Brown
2000  H    Penn       Penn (Ivy Bowl)

My perceptions are skewed probably due to being in the stands for two crushing, championship-losing games against Penn.  (1995 and 2000.)

Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995!  
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 23, 2005, 02:47:31 AM
[Q]Scersk '97 Wrote:
1990  H    Cornell    Cornell/Dartmouth[/Q]
That was a great game. Running on the field isn't as much fun as climbing over the glass, but it was still pretty f'n great. Seeing how big Chris Cochrane was in person shocked the hell out of me.

[Q] Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995![/q]
Would it have mattered? Didn't Penn beat us by 40?
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Scersk '97 on October 23, 2005, 05:38:22 PM
[Q]ugarte Wrote:
[Q2]Scersk '97 Wrote:

Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995![/Q2]
Would it have mattered? Didn't Penn beat us by 40?[/Q]
Yep.  The top of the standings before the game were:

Cornell     5-1
Princeton   5-1
Penn        4-2
Dartmouth   4-2

We were playing Penn and Princeton was playing Dartmouth.  Obviously, all teams involved had something to play for.

Seeing that we were being dismantled by Penn, Princeton, with some time yet remaining, kicked a field goal from the one on first and goal to tie and win the title.  First and goal.  First and goal! Pardon my language, but I consider that a real pussy move--worthy of the "Tigers."

My nascent dislike of Princeton and the clubby smarminess for which it stands took a giant leap towards mature hatred that day.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: ugarte on October 23, 2005, 06:14:40 PM
[Q]Scersk '97 Wrote:

 [Q2]ugarte Wrote:
[Q2]Scersk '97 Wrote:

Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995![/Q]
Would it have mattered? Didn't Penn beat us by 40?[/Q]
Yep.  The top of the standings before the game were:
Cornell     5-1
Princeton   5-1
Penn        4-2
Dartmouth   4-2
We were playing Penn and Princeton was playing Dartmouth.  Obviously, all teams involved had something to play for.

Seeing that we were being dismantled by Penn, Princeton, with some time yet remaining, kicked a field goal from the one on first and goal to tie and win the title.  First and goal.  First and goal! Pardon my language, but I consider that a real pussy move--worthy of the "Tigers."

My nascent dislike of Princeton and the clubby smarminess for which it stands took a giant leap towards mature hatred that day.[/q]
Aha. Still that was a really odd Cornell team. I think we won our five games by a total of 9 points, mostly because of missed short FGs and XPs. Getting a piece of that title would have been weird.
Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: Scersk '97 on October 23, 2005, 06:42:30 PM
[Q]ugarte Wrote:
Still that was a really odd Cornell team. I think we won our five games by a total of 9 points, mostly because of missed short FGs and XPs. Getting a piece of that title would have been weird.[/q]
The year before was strange as well.  That was the 6 and 0 / 0 and 4 season.  But Penn was running away with the league that season, so it didn't hurt as much.

In 1995, actually, we handled Brown, Yale, and Columbia rather well.  You must be thinking of the close wins vs. Harvard and Dartmouth.  We also had a very close loss against Princeton.  In the mist, whilst driving for a winning score, I'll remember, "Joyce goes down!  Joyce goes down!  Joyce goes down!"

Considering what had happened the week before the Penn game http://www.tbrw.info/boxScores/box19951111.html, and what was to happen later on http://www.tbrw.info/boxScores/box19960316.html, I can't really complain too much about that year.  I know a certain friend of mine who wears a 96 Cornell football jersey who has some unresolved issues, though... :)



Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: jtwcornell91 on October 26, 2005, 06:28:19 PM
[Q]ugarte Wrote:
Aha. Still that was a really odd Cornell team. I think we won our five games by a total of 9 points, mostly because of missed short FGs and XPs. Getting a piece of that title would have been weird.[/q]

I think you're thinking of the 2000 team, not 1995.

Title: Re: [FB]Brown at Cornell
Post by: jtwcornell91 on October 26, 2005, 06:29:53 PM
[Q]Scersk '97 Wrote:

 [Q2]ugarte Wrote:
[Q2]Scersk '97 Wrote:

Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995![/Q]
Would it have mattered? Didn't Penn beat us by 40?[/Q]
Yep.  The top of the standings before the game were:
Cornell     5-1
Princeton   5-1
Penn        4-2
Dartmouth   4-2
We were playing Penn and Princeton was playing Dartmouth.  Obviously, all teams involved had something to play for.

Seeing that we were being dismantled by Penn, Princeton, with some time yet remaining, kicked a field goal from the one on first and goal to tie and win the title.  First and goal.  First and goal! Pardon my language, but I consider that a real pussy move--worthy of the "Tigers."

My nascent dislike of Princeton and the clubby smarminess for which it stands took a giant leap towards mature hatred that day.[/q]

Actually, I remember celebrating the news that Princeton had come back to tie it.  It meant we didn't get a share of the Ivy title, but dammit, it also meant Penn didn't get one either!