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Title: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: Trotsky on June 08, 2005, 01:35:40 PM
http://baseball-almanac.com/college/cornell_university_baseball_players.shtml

11 Cornell alumni have made it to the majors.  None has played since 1944, and the large majority played prior to the First World War.
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: Trotsky on June 08, 2005, 01:37:37 PM
Naturally, the first Cornellian ever to play in the majors, John Humphries, was a Canadian.  :-)
Title: My favorite CU close brush with a cup of coffee
Post by: Hillel Hoffmann on June 08, 2005, 03:24:51 PM
My man Marlin McPhail '78 gets an A for effort. He had, what, about a decade in the minors? (Mostly at the AAA level.) Poor guy got stuck in the Expos organization behind the dude who holds about a gazillion franchise records, Tim Wallach. I think Marlin's still with the Mets organization now as a scout or coach or something.
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: min on June 08, 2005, 03:54:35 PM
small point: are the Fast Facts listed in the page indeed facts? i mean, where is "give my regards to davy" among the fight songs?
 
i don't think i ever heard of the first two fight songs while on the hill!
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: CowbellGuy on June 08, 2005, 04:48:04 PM
The second two are played at most hockey games. I think Cornell Victorious has pretty much been abandoned though.
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: jtwcornell91 on June 08, 2005, 08:53:42 PM
[Q]CowbellGuy Wrote:

 The second two are played at most hockey games. I think Cornell Victorious has pretty much been abandoned though.[/q]

Is it no longer played in postgame concerts after football victories?
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: Tub(a) on June 08, 2005, 10:16:57 PM
[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

 [Q2]CowbellGuy Wrote:

 The second two are played at most hockey games. I think Cornell Victorious has pretty much been abandoned though.[/Q]
Is it no longer played in postgame concerts after football victories?[/q]

The new coach requested that we play the New Cornell Fight Song instead.
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: jtwcornell91 on June 08, 2005, 10:32:31 PM
[Q]Tub(a) Wrote:

 [Q2]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

 [Q2]CowbellGuy Wrote:

 The second two are played at most hockey games. I think Cornell Victorious has pretty much been abandoned though.[/Q]
Is it no longer played in postgame concerts after football victories?[/Q]
The new coach requested that we play the New Cornell Fight Song instead.[/q]

Erm, okay.  Any reason given for abandoning 90 years of tradition?
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: Jerseygirl on June 08, 2005, 10:53:48 PM
Maybe much like the slumping player who one day decides to put his left sock on first instead of his usual right sock, Coach Knowles decided to be a little superstitious and tweak a few "traditions" that hadn't been working out so well lately.

Or maybe he just didn't like the song.
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: Tub(a) on June 09, 2005, 08:09:53 AM
[Q]Jerseygirl Wrote:

 Maybe much like the slumping player who one day decides to put his left sock on first instead of his usual right sock, Coach Knowles decided to be a little superstitious and tweak a few "traditions" that hadn't been working out so well lately.

Or maybe he just didn't like the song.[/q]

Yeah, I think it was part of a "new attitude."
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: Lauren '06 on June 10, 2005, 08:46:42 AM
[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

 [Q2]Tub(a) Wrote:

 [Q2]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

 [Q2]CowbellGuy Wrote:

 The second two are played at most hockey games. I think Cornell Victorious has pretty much been abandoned though.[/Q]
Is it no longer played in postgame concerts after football victories?[/Q]
The new coach requested that we play the New Cornell Fight Song instead.[/Q]
Erm, okay.  Any reason given for abandoning 90 years of tradition?[/q]
Especially strange since he's a Cornell graduate.  Maybe he took "you can't call it Cornell Victorious, IT'S A JINX" a little too seriously during his first go around on the hill.
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: KenP on June 10, 2005, 09:51:43 AM
My Old Cornell is played at several events.  http://www.rso.cornell.edu/marchingband/songs/myoc.mp3

Haven't heard Cornell Victorius as often.  http://www.gleeclub.com/experience/music/soc/07.mp3
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: JS \'93 on June 13, 2005, 10:46:58 PM
Anyone know how many Ivy Leaguers are now playing in MLB?

I only know of one player right now (there must be more??)--Chris Young--SP--Texas Rangers--Princeton Grad and 6'10" Rookie that has great potential and very solid stats to date.  

I know Doug Glanville was from Penn, but I believe he is retired.    
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: KeithK on June 13, 2005, 11:21:36 PM
Using the same Baseball Almanac site:
Princeton
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: KeithK on June 13, 2005, 11:26:56 PM
Using the same Baseball Almanac site, it seems to be only 2:
Princeton - 1 (Chris Young)
Dartmouth - 1 (Mike Remlinger)
but I can't seem to get a page for Penn.  I won't swear that the BA site is canonical, but it is thorough.

Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: RichH on June 14, 2005, 12:17:44 AM
[Q]JS '93 Wrote:

 Anyone know how many Ivy Leaguers are now playing in MLB?

I only know of one player right now (there must be more??)--Chris Young--SP--Texas Rangers--Princeton Grad and 6'10" Rookie that has great potential and very solid stats to date.  

I know Doug Glanville was from Penn, but I believe he is retired.    [/q]

I'm quite certain that Brad Ausmus went to Dartmouth, and I remember watching Mark DeRosa destroy Cornell in football as Penn's QB.  Doug Glanville signed a minor league deal with the Yankees this year, but was released during spring training.  You can call it "retirement" if you wish.

A much better statistical-oriented website also has a collegiate section: http://www.baseball-reference.com/schools/

Several years ago, I remember reading/hearing a rumor that there was an Indians pitcher (from the 1990's) who attended Cornell for his freshman year before transferring somewhere else....some quick mind-jogging and research shows that it was Charles Nagy.  According to Uncle Ezra, http://ezra.cornell.edu/posting.php?timestamp=881211600#question11

[Q]Charles Nagy did not graduate from Cornell, but did spend some time in Ithaca at CU as a first-year student.  Nagy played defensive back on the freshman football team in 1985, then transferred to the University of Connecticut to play baseball.[/Q]

There's also an article about Cornellians currently toiling in the minors near the bottom of this page:  http://cornell-magazine.cornell.edu/Currentissue/depts/Currents.html
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: Pete Godenschwager on June 14, 2005, 07:46:38 AM
Then there's this guy:
http://cornellbigred.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/061205aaa.html

He must've been hot as crap in that uniform this weekend!

Title: Re: ECAC in MLB
Post by: RichH on June 14, 2005, 08:42:27 AM
Just to tie in relevance, I can think of two MLB pitchers who excelled at hockey.  

One, Kirk McCaskill was captain at UVM and a Hobey Baker finalist in 1982.  He was a 4th round pick in both hockey and baseball drafts.  He wound up having an 11-year pitching career with the Angels and White Sox.  http://www.hockeydraftcentral.com/1981/81064.html
[Q]Wore No. 21 at Winnipeg's training camp in 1983, but failed to impress Winnipeg coach Barry Long, who commented "McCaskill plays hockey the way he plays baseball -- once every four days."[/Q]
The other, Tom Glavine, enrolled at Lowell, but turned down a hockey scholarship there to persue his baseball career.  He was drafted in the 4th round in the NHL draft and 2nd round in the MLB draft.  After 2 Cy Young awards, a World Series MVP, and an outside chance at reaching the 300 win club, I'd say he made the right choice.
http://www.hockeydraftcentral.com/1984/84069.html
Title: Re: [OT] Cornellians in MLB
Post by: Trotsky on June 14, 2005, 12:39:37 PM
[Q]Pete Godenschwager Wrote:
He must've been hot as crap in that uniform this weekend!
[/q]

Now that is a cute old man. :-)   I can imagine the event organizers, in the stands, thinking "ohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdieohgodpleasedon'tdie..."
Title: Hockey playing Baseball Players
Post by: jkahn on June 14, 2005, 05:21:51 PM
Another baseball player who was a star high school hockey player was Richie Hebner, third baseman mostly for the Pirates.  From the Boston area, he purportedly was offered contracts by both the Bruins and Red Wings organizations, but chose baseball and had a long successful career.  At the time of his choice in the late '60's, I think there was only one other American in NHL (Tommy Williams), so the chances of success probably seemed slim to most American kids, and he obviously had great baseball skills as well.

One Cornell shortstop did turn out to by a pretty good NHLer - Ken Dryden.  I suppose many younger folk reading here might not know he was a two sport Cornellian.