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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: jeh25 on March 28, 2002, 09:22:45 AM

Title: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: jeh25 on March 28, 2002, 09:22:45 AM
Seems to me that our crack research team should be able to out do the ESPN staff.

I'll start the ball rolling.

Men's Ice Hockey: 1967,1970  (2nd place: 1969, 1972)
Men's Lacrosse: 1971,1976,1977  (2nd place:1978, 1987,1988)

Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: kaelistus on March 28, 2002, 11:47:24 AM
And I think that's it...

Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: Chris 02 on March 28, 2002, 12:32:20 PM
Women's Polo won a national championship last year.  I'm not sure about other years though
Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: CowbellGuy on March 28, 2002, 12:35:03 PM
Not an NCAA sanctioned championship. According to the NCAA, Cornell has just the 5 listed:

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/champs_listing1.html

Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 28, 2002, 12:35:29 PM
Men's and women's polo have won a slew of national championships, but not NCAA-sanctioned.  Crew has won a bunch of IRA titles, but, again, not NCAA.  Cornell wrestlers have won eight or ten individual weight classes at NCAAs, but never the team championship.

Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: jeh25 on March 28, 2002, 01:35:36 PM
Neat Link.

Looks like Yale is the place to go if you wanna play golf.  ::yark::

School      -  Men's Golf - Total # of Championships
Harvard     -    6        -   8
Princeton   -    12       -   20
Yale        -    21       -   27


Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: pat on March 28, 2002, 02:28:00 PM
But according to the NCAA site, Harvard has 8. Obviously ESPN, which lists them as having 111, isn't worried about which ones are "sanctioned."
Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: jeh25 on March 28, 2002, 02:51:40 PM
Well, ESPN also claims harvard has 2 lacrosse titles in the 1880's.  I suspect the Harvard SID took NCAA titles to mean "national titles of any sort" considering the NCAA wasn't founded until the 1920-30's and the 1st NCAA lacrosse title was won by Cornell in 1971.

Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: Dave \'02 on March 31, 2002, 02:41:30 AM
I checked out the link and they list Coed Sports.  What Coed Sports, aside from track and field, are there?  And, at least in high school, while men and women both competed, they didn't do so correctly and were scored separately.
Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: Dave \'02 on March 31, 2002, 02:44:31 AM
Nevermind.  Apparently there's skiing, rifle, and fencing.  Any others?
Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: Robb on March 31, 2002, 10:11:54 AM
Not sure what you mean, Dave.  Back in my day (90-94), men's and women's fencing were scored and tracked separately.  There were three men's events (foil, epee, and sabre) with 9 bouts in each weapon, for a total of 27 bouts.  At the time, women only fenced foil with 16 bouts.  Many times we would come back from Princeton, Penn, etc, with the women having "won" the meet 10-6 or so and the men having "lost" the meet 7-20ish (yes, we truly sucked).  I never heard of anyone adding up the men's and women's results for a total (in this example) of losing 17-26.

 For logistical purposes, the teams travelled together and competed at the same time, but they were separate teams, even for NCAA qualification.  Logically, since Cornell has no men's team, this must still be the case, else how could we compete with other schools with only half a team?

Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: jeh25 on March 31, 2002, 10:57:31 AM
I believe the rifle events are truely coed. As in, they could give at rat's ass about the gender of the team members.

I find it amusing that UAF has won the last 4 NCAA riflery championships. Amazingly enough, this is not a record as West Virginia has won 6 straight.

Title: Fencing
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 31, 2002, 10:58:25 AM
Hmm, the NCAA championships page says fencing has been a coed championship since 1990.  Maybe the national tournament works differently than the regular season?

Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: marty on April 06, 2002, 11:53:34 AM
So  a string of poloponies can't get you an NCAA title Ralphie boy?  Is Polo not of the NCAA?

http://www.cornellsun.com/articles/5223/
Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: DeltaOne81 on April 06, 2002, 01:51:00 PM
From last year's article:
QuoteA seven-goal outburst in the third chukker sealed the 24-11 victory for the Red, which captured its second straight national title and ninth in the program's storied history.

So I wonder how many "unsanctioned" (shall we say, Harvard-esque) national titles Cornell has?
Title: Unsanctioned titles
Post by: jtwcornell91 on April 06, 2002, 02:06:28 PM
Poor Harvard is getting no credit for the AHCA women's hockey title they won before the NCAA started officially sanctioning the championship.  NPR mentioned that UMD had won both National Championships in women's hockey; see the following recent HOCKEY-L post for more:

http://lists.maine.edu/cgi/wa?A2=ind0204&L=hockey-l&F=&S=&P=2676

Title: Re: Complete List of All Cornell NCAA Titles
Post by: zg88 on April 06, 2002, 04:20:45 PM
Speaking of "co-ed sports":  While polo is not technically "co-ed", the article linked in Marty's post suggests pseudo-co-ed-ness in the sport.  While the inclusion of both men's & women's coverage in a single article is no doubt due in part to the sport's relatively "minor" status on campus (fan-wise), the fact that the same four schools are mentioned in both genders' coverage (CU, Colorado State, Texas A&M, UVa) indicates that men's & women's polo are probably very closely related (semi-integrated??) at most, if not all, schools.  (Just a guess:  Is this because both teams ride the same horsies??? (My vast expertise in this area is just shinin' through, ain't it?))  :-))

I can't believe I just wrote this much about polo...  ::laugh::  (Although, I do seem to remember getting sucked into it last year about this time, too...  (Hey, if you contend for national championships -- even in polo -- you get noticed!)  :-)