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Title: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: Chris 02 on March 21, 2005, 04:39:33 PM
Final USCHO.com/CSTV Division I Men's Poll
March 21, 2005

   Team        (First Place)    Record  Pts   Last Week
 1 Denver               (17)    28-9-2  569     2
 2 Boston College        (7)    25-6-7  520     4
 3 Colorado College      (6)    29-8-3  517     1
 4 Cornell               (8)    26-4-3  503     3
 5 Michigan              (1)    30-7-3  473     4
 6 New Hampshire               25-10-5  362     7
 7 Minnesota                   26-14-1  336     6
 8 Harvard                      21-9-3  296     8
 9 Ohio State                  27-10-4  269    10
10 North Dakota          (1)   22-14-5  250    13
11 Boston University           23-13-4  212     9
12 Maine                       20-12-7  172    12
13 Wisconsin                   23-13-4  155    11
14 Colgate                     25-10-3  103    14
15 Dartmouth                   20-13-2   17    NR

Others Receiving Votes: Northern Michigan 12,
Vermont 10, Mass.-Lowell 7, Bemidji State 6,
Alaska-Fairbanks 4, Mercyhurst 4, Michigan State 3

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
March 21, 2005

   Team                           Pts (1st) Last  Record  Wks In Poll
 1 University of Denver            483 (18)   2   28-9-2   25
 2 Boston College                  441 (6)    4   25-6-7   25
 3 Cornell University              436 (8)    3   26-4-3   23
 4 Colorado College                431 (2)    1   29-8-3   25
 5 University of Michigan          412        5   30-7-3   25
 6 University of New Hampshire     319        7  25-10-5   25
 7 University of Minnesota         291        6  26-14-1   25
 8 The Ohio State University       233        8  27-10-4   23
 9 Harvard University              228        9   21-9-3   14
10 Boston University               188       10  23-13-4   17
11 University of North Dakota      186       13  22-14-5   24
12 University of Maine             170       12  20-12-7   24
13 University of Wisconsin         134       11  23-13-4   25
14 Colgate University               88       14  25-10-3   18
15 Northern Michigan University     11       15  22-11-7    8

Others receiving votes: University of Vermont 8,
University of Alaska Fairbanks 8, Dartmouth College 5,
Mercyhurst College 5, University of Massachusetts Lowell 1,
Michigan State University 1, Bemidji State University 1.

Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: ugarte on March 21, 2005, 04:41:26 PM
Blah blah meaningless blah blah on the ice blah blah.

I am pissed that we won our conference tournament and fell behind BC.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: Ack on March 21, 2005, 04:42:11 PM
Someone thinks highly of North Dakota.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: BCrespi on March 21, 2005, 04:43:26 PM
Rodney Dangerfield-ed yet again, hehe.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: billhoward on March 21, 2005, 04:45:56 PM
Hot damn: Four top-15 teams from the ECACHL plus one HM ... three in the NCAAs ... and Dartmouth or Vermont as first alternate had Mercyhurst been unable to serve.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: KeithK on March 21, 2005, 04:46:21 PM
[q]I am pissed that we won our conference tournament and fell behind BC.[/q]Yeah, but they won theirs too.  Whatever.  
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: KeithK on March 21, 2005, 04:50:03 PM
[q]... and Dartmouth or Vermont as first alternate had Mercyhurst been unable to serve.[/q]So does that mean if we can round up a Brute Squad to head to Erie then we get four teams in?   :-D
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: TCHL8842 on March 21, 2005, 04:53:30 PM
Wow we fell 2 spots in the polls in these last weeks and we did not even lose.  I guess more eastern voters went towards BC rather than us, also the western vote we would probably around 5-7 spots on their voting.  Even though it is useless, it is amazing the voters thought less on our team when we only gave up 3 goals in the last 4 games.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 21, 2005, 04:53:32 PM
20 bucks says that Cornell falls a spot next week even if they win both games this weekend!
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: CowbellGuy on March 21, 2005, 04:54:12 PM
I'll take that easy money. This was the last poll.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: KeithK on March 21, 2005, 04:58:57 PM
Was it US Today that continued to have polls after the tournament had started two years ago? I'm pretty sure there was a final poll from one of the two sources after the tournament was over.

OK, it looks like it was pre-FF only:
http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,21431,21431#msg-21431
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 21, 2005, 04:59:45 PM
Are you sure?  I thought they do one more.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: Will on March 21, 2005, 05:17:11 PM
[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 Are you sure?  I thought they do one more.[/q]

I'm pretty sure Age is right.  It'd be pointless to do one more poll next week, since by then only four teams will be left.  (Well, it's always pointless to do polls, but you know what I mean.)
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: CowbellGuy on March 21, 2005, 05:42:10 PM
Look at the very first word of the very first post in this thread.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: KeithK on March 21, 2005, 07:08:51 PM

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll

March 21, 2005

   Team                           Pts (1st) Last  Record  Wks In Poll
 1 University of Denver            483 (18)   2   28-9-2   25
 2 Boston College                  441 (6)    4   25-6-7   25
 3 Cornell University              436 (8)    3   26-4-3   23
 4 Colorado College                431 (2)    1   29-8-3   25
 5 University of Michigan          412        5   30-7-3   25
 6 University of New Hampshire     319        7  25-10-5   25
 7 University of Minnesota         291        6  26-14-1   25
 8 The Ohio State University       233        8  27-10-4   23
 9 Harvard University              228        9   21-9-3   14
10 Boston University               188       10  23-13-4   17
11 University of North Dakota      186       13  22-14-5   24
12 University of Maine             170       12  20-12-7   24
13 University of Wisconsin         134       11  23-13-4   25
14 Colgate University               88       14  25-10-3   18
15 Northern Michigan University     11       15  22-11-7    8

Others receiving votes: University of Vermont 8,
University of Alaska Fairbanks 8, Dartmouth College 5,
Mercyhurst College 5, University of Massachusetts Lowell 1,
Michigan State University 1, Bemidji State University 1.

Note that this is not specifically listed on USCHO as the final poll (though it still might be).
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: ben03 on March 21, 2005, 07:59:07 PM
Poll = Pointless Opinions Lacking Logic ;-)
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: KeithK on March 21, 2005, 08:03:42 PM
They may be pointless, but seeing the records listed like that points out that we are guaranteed to finish the season with fewer losses than any other Division 1 hockey team. (That and $600+ will get me to Minneapolis...)
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: Trotsky on March 21, 2005, 08:41:22 PM
If 2003 is a guide, USA Today continues polling through the end of the tournament, while USCHO is done for the year: http://www.tbrw.info/2003/polls/2003_poll_history.html
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 22, 2005, 10:22:00 AM
[Q]KeithK Wrote:

 [Q2]I am pissed that we won our conference tournament and fell behind BC.[/Q]
Yeah, but they won theirs too.  Whatever.  [/q]

We've actually violated one of the Laws of Poll Dynamics: teams that win shouldn't fall in the poll, even if the teams below them beat stronger opponents.  (This law is one of the reasons polls are a bad way to evaluate performance, and came up in the BCS discussions season before last.)
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: RatushnyFan on March 22, 2005, 02:48:27 PM
[Q]Ack Wrote:

 Someone thinks highly of North Dakota.[/q]

I think highly of them.  Great goaltender.  They're almost on par with CC and Denver the way they're playing.  But it wasn't my vote.
Title: Re: Polls 3/21/05
Post by: KeithK on March 22, 2005, 03:10:44 PM
That is, assuming they play him.  They've been alternating Parise and Lamoureux and have continued the rotation into the playoffs even though Lamoureux hasn't won since January.  Parise played in the PIG and the Consy last weekend (NoDak wins) and Lamoureux played in the semi (NoDak loss, in OT).  Though on second thought, Lamoureux's stats are virtually identical to Parise's: both have .914 Sv% and the difference in GAA is 0.04.  Maybe the team hasn't played with as much confidence in front of the freshman?  Or maybe the losses are dumb luck.  Anyway, maybe it doesn't matter who NoDak puts in goal this weekend.