See the second part of this link: http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/7Archives/Tourneys/wchasemi_0327.htm
And the accompanying video....
http://www.gopherpucklive.com/video/HirschCC.mpg
he's an honorable mention for the a hockey "darwin" award. yeah, i would say he's got some "issues".
WOW! Now that should make Sportscenter!
He's Minny's leading scorer too...
Can you say Nervous Breakdown? I want to hear the story behind the story on this one....I wonder if USCHO has any info in the forums
Woah...major weird.
so I clicked on the video first...big mistake...I was laughing at first when I realized the goal was empty and then cringed when he went barrelling into the cage...I hope the kid is okay and I really hope we don't have to play them for a bunch of reasons
Is Hirsch playing tonite?
no...out coach's decision i believe.
So the website hosting the video clip (a Gopher fan site) pulled the file for obvious reasons.
Anybody have it cached on their computer from viewing it the other day? I don't, but I'd be happy to host it for a week to make sure all our fans get the chance to see it. It really is one of the funnier things I've seen in a while (assuming the kid actually is okay).
There is a good deal of speculation that he is done for the season.
I smell a cheer from the faithful coming on. :-D
New link: http://home.comcast.net/~gomer_p/HirschCC.mpg
Any further developments? That is hilarious.
[Q]French Rage Wrote:
New link: [/q]
The "New Link" to video doesn't seem to be working any more. Anyone have another?
Thanks.
Andy W.
[Edit-Delete] Saving this for such time as it would make any sense to discuss.
For the week: http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kjp32/HirschCC.mpg
Please don't pass the link out to USCHO boards, etc. Let's keep it friendly.
The first time it was funny. By the third time it was sad. Assuming it was not a psych-out-the-opponents stunt (Mike Schafer's cracking a pre-sawn stick over his head), he's got some real serious issues to deal with.
In a selfish sense it couldn't have come at a better time for Cornell, but I think we'd rather beat a Minnesota team that's whole (assuming we get past OSU and Minnesota gets past Maine.) If Minnesota folds on the first day, I think the Cornell fans can have their pick of seats Sunday.
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
If Minnesota folds on the first day, I think the Cornell fans can have their pick of seats Sunday. [/q]
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. We still have to get past Ohio State, and even if we are favored to do so, neither Minnesota nor Maine will be pushovers. And let's not forget that Maine is one of the few teams to actually put three goals past McKee in a single game this season (along with Boston College and--I still can't believe I'm saying this--Princeton). Cornell may be just four wins away from a national title, but those four wins will likely be the hardest games of these players' lives thus far.
[Q]Will Wrote:
[Q2]billhoward Wrote:
If Minnesota folds on the first day, I think the Cornell fans can have their pick of seats Sunday. [/Q]
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. We still have to get past Ohio State, and even if we are favored to do so, neither Minnesota nor Maine will be pushovers. And let's not forget that Maine is one of the few teams to actually put three goals past McKee in a single game this season (along with Boston College and--I still can't believe I'm saying this--Princeton). Cornell may be just four wins away from a national title, but those four wins will likely be the hardest games of these players' lives thus far.[/q]Touchy, touchy. I do believe the requested caveat immediately preceded the single sentence reproduced above:
[q]Bill actually wrote: In a selfish sense it couldn't have come at a better time for Cornell, but I think we'd rather beat a Minnesota team that's whole (assuming we get past OSU and Minnesota gets past Maine.) If Minnesota folds on the first day, I think the Cornell fans can have their pick of seats Sunday.[/q]Some cultures pepper every sentence and comment with "Inshallah" (God willing), or "may the winds of fate speed you on your journey." It seemed as if once for two sentences was enough. Also, the post didn't guarantee the Cornell ice hockey team would be playing Sunday. It suggested that Cornell ice hockey fans, who are of course true fans of the game, would be there and would have their pick of seats if the not-so-golden Gophers got picked off Saturday.
Truce?
My bad. I basically ignored the first part of your statement and focused on the end part. I apologize.
(Considering how late I posted the message that got your attention, it was damned lucky I included the caveat that bailed me out in the morning. And I also remembered to keep to myself the belief that the Cornell defense is going to pos -- oops, never mind.)
From USCHO, a quote from the local Minny fish wrap:
"Hirsch (11-33-44) has not been with the team since going home with his parents Friday night, and it's highly unlikely he will play this weekend."
On first sight this was one of the funnier things I’ve ever seen at a hockey rink … but on second thought, it’s what in the hell would cause a 21-year-old accomplished D1 hockey player to pull such a stunt that really concerns me. I’m sure many people (probably mostly Maine fans at the moment) are thinking, “Well at least they won’t have their leading scorer†but that’s a crappy way to win IMHO. Not knowing his situation we can only hope he’s doing all right. Sorry for the semi-rant but something about laughing at that just doesn’t sit well with me.
carry-on :-)
[Q]Some cultures pepper every sentence and comment with "Inshallah" (God willing)[/Q]
I believe we should instead use "Inschafer". :)
It gets more disturbing.
This was posted on USCHO. I tried to find an original, substantiated report but could not. If this is rumor-passing, I apologize in advance.
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3/23/05
Hirsch Hospitalized with Nervous Breakdown
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Those reports indicate that Hirsch had become deeply influenced by the film “The Passion of the Christ,†the controversial Mel Gibson-directed film about the last 12 hours of the life of Jesus of Nazareth.
We’re also told that the 21-year-old had told his teammates that, “We have to get the devil out of the building†and words to that effect.
Reportedly, Hirsch was also crying on the bench during Friday night’s game.
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Three observations:
1) As a parent, I really hope this kid and his family (who are going to need it just as much) get the therapy they need, and that this story has a positive ending.
2) If you're seeing Satan skulking around the Zamboni door anywhere but Harvard (where he has an endowed chair), your rational powers have been put on waivers.
3) Culturally revealing how the article seems to endorse a male crying on the bench as a sign of incipient nuttiness.
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:
3) Culturally revealing how the article seems to endorse a male crying on the bench as a sign of incipient nuttiness.[/q]
Well, I notice that the article doesn't mention exactly when during the game he was crying. If it was during warm-ups or something, that'd be a little odd.
Beeeej
It's also a male hockey player. Culturally revealing perhaps, but I suspect that crying on the bench is pretty rare among male college hockey players.
This is kind of like quoting the Daily Show but here we go anyway:
http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/7Archives/News/hirsch_0328.htm
INCH is reporting that Tyler Hirsch practiced with the team today.
On the other hand, if he plays, as some people have speculated, he's fair game as far as I'm concerned.
Frankly, you'd be derelict in your duty if you didn't harass him on the ice. Not that I'd ever expect that from you, Josh.
[Q]KeithK Wrote: Frankly, you'd be derelict in your duty if you didn't harass him on the ice. Not that I'd ever expect that from you, Josh.[/q]I disagree, if this kid even might have a psych problem, you don't want to put him over the top. Think about your own kid, if he was having trouble would you want someone else to harass him and make him lose it.
[Q]Jim Hyla Wrote:
[Q2]KeithK Wrote: Frankly, you'd be derelict in your duty if you didn't harass him on the ice. Not that I'd ever expect that from you, Josh.[/Q]
I disagree, if this kid even might have a psych problem, you don't want to put him over the top. Think about your own kid, if he was having trouble would you want someone else to harass him and make him lose it.[/q]
not to mention the 8,000+ minnesota fans sitting all around you ::uhoh::
i still think we should leave this alone.
What was the situation? I saw the video feed but don't know what was going on...
Some UVM fans on USCHO called Cornell fans low class. They were being prudish whiners.
This, however... this would be low class.
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
Some UVM fans on USCHO called Cornell fans low class. They were being prudish whiners.
[/q]
How exactly were we being prudish whiners?
[Q]Will Wrote:
How exactly were we being prudish whiners?[/q]
The UVM fans that were complaining were. Complaining about the usage of the word 'sucks' and that the cheers were 'negative' and all the typical stuff from people who don't understand that college hockey is actually fun ;)
If I were a fan of a different team, I would hate us.
I'm not, so I don't.
Big deal.
USHR reports that he will not return to the lineup this weekend and they speculate that the film The Passion of the Christ has had a profound impact on his actions. This thing just gets weirder and weirder.
Update on Hirsch from USCHO makes it seem unlikely he'll play
http://www.uscho.com/news/2005/03/23_010457.php
It seems to be a moot point now, but if he played, I don't see why he shouldn't be fair game. If Hirsch, his family, and his doctors are ok with him playing, there has to be some accountability to go with that. If there really is a problem, he shouldn't be playing. Should we not pick on anyone on the off chance we might exacerbate some nascent condition. It would be horribly irresponsible to let him play if there's a problem, and that's where the culpability ends.
[Q]CowbellGuy Wrote: It seems to be a moot point now, but if he played, I don't see why he shouldn't be fair game. If Hirsch, his family, and his doctors are ok with him playing, there has to be some accountability to go with that. If there really is a problem, he shouldn't be playing. Should we not pick on anyone on the off chance we might exacerbate some nascent condition. It would be horribly irresponsible to let him play if there's a problem, and that's where the culpability ends.[/q]If the guy is depressed he could still play hockey, but I think it would be irresponsible to taunt him about being depressed. As another example, if a guys sister committed suicide, would you think it OK to taunt him about that? Now those are just examples but I hope you get my idea. It reminds me of some of our fans who were booing HVD after we had beaten them. In poor taste, IMHO.
Trying to exorcise demons in the rink? Wow!
::help::
[Q]Jeff Hopkins '82 Wrote:
Trying to exorcise demons in the rink? Wow![/q]
That's better than the USCHO poster who thought he was exercising the demons.
If a guy has a funny looking apple, is it ok to make fun of his oranges? I don't think we're talking depression here. Either he checked his marbles at the door or he's just an idiot. I don't think it's the latter, so I don't think he should be playing, since it was a hockey game that made him snap.
[Q]Jeff Hopkins '82 Wrote:
Trying to exorcise demons in the rink? Wow!
[/q]
I am so tempted to say something funny from the movie The Exorcist , but I'll refrain myself....
Like all, I really hope he's going to be okay...
[Q]nyc94 Wrote:
[Q2]Jeff Hopkins '82 Wrote:
Trying to exorcise demons in the rink? Wow![/Q]
That's better than the USCHO poster who thought he was exercising the demons.[/q]
*sniff* Thank you for that. It feels good to laugh that hard.
Good thing no one else is home....
[Q]CowbellGuy Wrote:
If a guy has a funny looking apple, is it ok to make fun of his oranges? I don't think we're talking depression here. Either he checked his marbles at the door or he's just an idiot. I don't think it's the latter, so I don't think he should be playing, since it was a hockey game that made him snap.[/q]Whether he plays or not should be between the coach, his doctors, his parents and himself. Whether we harass him is up to us and I think you all know my opinion.