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Title: Polls 2/21
Post by: ganderson on February 21, 2005, 04:40:29 PM
USCHO.com/CSTV Division I Men's Poll
February 21, 2005

   Team           (First Place)    Record   Pts   Last Week
 1 Denver                (16)       22-7-2   563     1
 2 Cornell                (14)       20-4-3   531     4
 - Colorado College (6)         25-6-3   531     3
 4 Michigan              (4)         24-7-3   477     5
 5 Boston College                 19-6-5   431     2
 6 Wisconsin                         21-9-2   392     6
 7 New Hampshire                22-7-3   369     8
 8 Ohio State                        23-8-3   288     7
 9 Boston University             20-10-2 247     11
10 Mass.-Lowell                  19-7-4    243     13
11 Harvard                          17-7-2    205     9
12 Minnesota                       20-12-1 201     10
13 Colgate                           22-8-2  172      12
14 Maine                              16-10-6 45       14
15 Northern Michigan           16-9-7  36        NR

Others Receiving Votes: North Dakota 34, Dartmouth 14,
Vermont 12, Nebraska-Omaha 4, Bemidji State 2,
Michigan State 2, Alabama-Huntsville 1





Wow.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21 (Cornell tied @ #2)
Post by: billhoward on February 21, 2005, 04:46:42 PM
Three ECAC teams in the top 15 plus two HMs out of 12 isn't bad. If only RPI (ratings not the safety school) followed up the ladder so nicely for Cornell.

  Team        (First Place)    Record  Pts   Last Week
 1 Denver               (16)    22-7-2  563     1
 2 Cornell              (14)    20-4-3  531     4
 - Colorado College      (6)    25-6-3  531     3
 4 Michigan              (4)    24-7-3  477     5
 5 Boston College               19-6-5  431     2
 6 Wisconsin                    21-9-2  392     6
 7 New Hampshire                22-7-3  369     8
 8 Ohio State                   23-8-3  288     7
 9 Boston University           20-10-2  247    11
10 Mass.-Lowell                 19-7-4  243    13
11 Harvard                      17-7-2  205     9
12 Minnesota                   20-12-1  201    10
13 Colgate                      22-8-2  172    12
14 Maine                       16-10-6   45    14
15 Northern Michigan            16-9-7   36    NR

Others Receiving Votes: North Dakota 34, Dartmouth 14,
Vermont 12, Nebraska-Omaha 4, Bemidji State 2,
Michigan State 2, Alabama-Huntsville 1

Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: Trotsky on February 21, 2005, 04:49:17 PM
I know it will be Sneddon, and I know I'm biased, but still I'm pretty sure who ECAC COTY ought to be.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21 (Cornell tied @ #2)
Post by: ben03 on February 21, 2005, 04:50:33 PM
age, there's an echo in this thread too ... ::nut::
Title: Re: Polls 2/21 (Cornell tied @ #2)
Post by: KeithK on February 21, 2005, 04:56:14 PM
Yes, but this echo has better formatting.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21 (Cornell tied @ #2)
Post by: ben03 on February 21, 2005, 05:01:19 PM
not going to argue that :-)
Title: Re: Polls 2/21 (Cornell tied @ #2)
Post by: ganderson on February 21, 2005, 05:02:26 PM
Yeah, yeah, my bad.  :P
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: jy3 on February 21, 2005, 05:03:39 PM
lol i can never get a good format like that :)
usa today isnt in yet. I am impressed by the #2 ranking. this season more and more echoes of two years ago :)
usa today still not in.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/usatmen.htm
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: Pete Godenschwager on February 21, 2005, 05:22:45 PM
Looking at the USA Today poll, I had no idea Colorado had a hockey team.  Go Buffaloes!  :-P  
On that note, didn't USA Today used to spell out the whole name of the university/college?  They still do with Boston College and Dartmouth College, but the others are just "Minnesota" and "Ohio State".  

Edit:  On the link above, to the actual USA Today site, the full name is not used.  However, the USA Today poll that's linked on USCHO does have the full names.  Odd.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: Chris 02 on February 21, 2005, 05:22:47 PM
It's called using

Preformatting
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: KeithK on February 21, 2005, 05:28:24 PM
Not to mention "College of the Holy Cross".
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: JordanCS on February 21, 2005, 05:35:16 PM
I like the respect the program is getting, but I have to feel we are being overrated.  We have played a pretty weak schedule, especially the last few games, while the WCHA teams are beating each other up.  If I had to put us somewhere, I'd put us around 4th or 5th.  If I had my way, I'd like to win the ECAC, and go to the tourny as a #1 seed, but as the 4th number 1, so we can kind of sneak up on people.  I'd much rather have opponents underestimate us than overestimate us come tourny time.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: ganderson on February 21, 2005, 05:44:22 PM
I have a feeling that once the PRW has shaken out we will be 4th-6th.  It would be great to go into the Tourney as a #1 seed, but if we do it would definatly be the 4th #1.  

I too would love to win the ECAC, but my greatest fantasy for the season would be getting to the Frozen Four again.  I think that would justify all the respect the program is getting (and of course would keep us nice and visible for recruiting purposes.)

P.S.  I hate that there's no spell checker on eLf.  :S  
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: billhoward on February 21, 2005, 06:01:36 PM
There is a roundabout spell checker if you write long missives (like I create anything else? ) in Word, which also allows you to actually be able read what you're typing if you no longer have eagle eyes, and then paste it into ELF. (Making sure Word doesn't mess up any open or close quotes in the process.)

I wanted to be first to post the poll but I really wanted to put the formatting in (*and* make sure it works by hitting the Preview button) so you got there first. If you put [ PRE ] (no spaces) before the poll tabular material and then  [ /PRE ] (no spaces) after it, you've got it formatted so it's easier to read.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: jy3 on February 21, 2005, 06:03:12 PM
[Q]Chris 02 Wrote:

 It's called using

Preformatting



Edited 2 times. Last edit at 02/21/05 05:23PM by Chris 02.[/q]


yes, using the [ ] pre and /pre tags. but i cant get it to work for some reason. :)

still no usa today poll. strange. they must be celebrating at the memorials in DC :)
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: jy3 on February 21, 2005, 06:29:09 PM
usa today, will attempt preformatting

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 21, 2005

   Team                           Pts (1st) Last  Record  Wks In Poll
 1 Colorado College                461 (10)   3   25-6-3   21
 2 University of Denver            460 (10)   2   22-7-2   21
 3 Cornell University              453 (12)   4   20-4-3   19
 4 University of Michigan          407 (2)    6   24-7-3   21
 5 Boston College                  367        1   19-6-5   21
 6 University of Wisconsin         352        5   21-9-2   21
 7 University of New Hampshire     320        8   22-7-3   21
 8 The Ohio State University       253        7   23-8-3   19
 9 Univ. of Massachusetts Lowell   216       13   19-7-4    9
10 Boston University               204       11  20-10-2   13
11 Harvard University              169        9   17-7-2   10
12 University of Minnesota         157       10  20-12-1   21
13 Colgate University              141       12   22-8-2   16
14 University of Maine              57       14  16-10-6   20
15 Northern Michigan University     27       NR   16-9-7    4

Others receiving votes: University of North Dakota 23,
University of Nebraska Omaha 8, Dartmouth College 2,
University of Vermont 2, College of the Holy Cross 1.
::help::
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: jy3 on February 21, 2005, 06:29:52 PM
it worked! :)
nice
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: Faithful07 on February 21, 2005, 06:33:07 PM
CC loses and moves up to #1? How is that fair?
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: finchphil on February 21, 2005, 06:36:09 PM
Interesting that the team with the most first place votes, Cornell (12), ends up third in the poll.  Must be a lot of volatility at the top!
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: Rosey on February 21, 2005, 06:37:29 PM
Note that Cornell got the most first place votes in the USA Today poll.  I have to admit it's nice when I can say to my coworkers that Cornell is the "top ranked team in the country" when they see me strolling around on Fridays with my jersey on, but honestly: how many of you are confident that Cornell is really the first or third best team in the country?  I haven't seen enough out-of-conference play to know! **]

Kyle
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: RichH on February 21, 2005, 06:37:47 PM
[Q]Faithful07 Wrote:

 CC loses and moves up to #1? How is that fair?[/q]

Look at the total points.  Positions 1-2 are only one voting point apart, and 1-3 are eight voting points apart.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21 (Cornell tied @ #2)
Post by: jeh25 on February 21, 2005, 07:58:20 PM
[Q]Posted by ganderson on February 21, 2005 05:02PM (---.drama.yale.edu)


 Yeah, yeah, my bad.  [/q]

Adam, Ivy League, huh?
:-P ::twitch:: ;-)
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: jeh25 on February 21, 2005, 08:00:10 PM
[Q]jy3 Wrote:

 [Q2]Chris 02 Wrote:

 It's called using

Preformatting



Edited 2 times. Last edit at 02/21/05 05:23PM by Chris 02.[/Q]
yes, using the [ ] pre and /pre tags. but i cant get it to work for some reason. [/q]

And they let him prescribe drugs! Scary, eh? ;)

Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: billhoward on February 21, 2005, 08:00:45 PM
Probably a lot of us who'd rather play Boston College again than Michigan State.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: djs on February 21, 2005, 10:41:48 PM
[Q]finchphil Wrote:

 Interesting that the team with the most first place votes, Cornell (12), ends up third in the poll.  Must be a lot of volatility at the top![/q]

It seems from the USA Today poll that there are a bunch of people really high on Cornell (those 12 first place votes) and a bunch of people who think we're not top four material.

My inner Cornell geek tells me that 483 total points minus 15 times 12 first place votes leaves 273 points for the other 14 votes.

273/14 is about 11.4 points/vote.

So that's an average rank of 3.6 for those 22 votes.

Which, according to alot of people even here, is a more likely representation of where we stand.

Of course, you can always blame the WCHA bias     :-P
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: billhoward on February 21, 2005, 10:56:19 PM
Probably a bunch of western voters put Cornell way down, while the easterners didn't stick it to CC or Denver. Thus Cornell getting lots of #1 votes but not being in first overall.

Our getting all those #1 votes is going to be extra ammo for St. Lawrence and Clarkson this coming weekend. That and a chance to mess up the nation's longest unbeaten record. Fortunately, we all know McKee and the Cornell D are going to post a pair of shu--

... hey, what happened, all of a sudden my monitor went dim just as I was typing "shu-" ... sheesh, there it goes again. It's as if some force field was trying to take control of the PC.
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: CowbellGuy on February 22, 2005, 09:10:04 AM
Are you sure you're not just blacking out from all the aforementioned wine?
Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: jeh25 on February 22, 2005, 10:06:26 AM
[Q]CowbellGuy Wrote:

 Are you sure you're not just blacking out from all the aforementioned wine?[/q]

I figured it was all the windows spyware.... ;)

Title: Re: Polls 2/21
Post by: jkahn on February 22, 2005, 02:19:20 PM
[Q]djs wrote:
It seems from the USA Today poll that there are a bunch of people really high on Cornell (those 12 first place votes) and a bunch of people who think we're not top four material.

My inner Cornell geek tells me that 483 total points minus 15 times 12 first place votes leaves 273 points for the other 14 votes.

273/14 is about 11.4 points/vote.[/q]
It's actually 453-15x12, but since the 273 answer is correct, I assume that's a typo.
Also, it's 22 other votes, not 14 (although it looks like you divided by 24), so 273/22 = 12.4
[q]djs wrote:
273/14 is about 11.4 points/vote.
So that's an average rank of 3.6 for those 22 votes. [/q]
Actually, 11.4 points/ vote would be an average rank is 4.6. However, since the actual result is 12.4 points/vote, the 3.6 average for the 22 votes is correct.