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Title: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 06:41:12 PM
1  02:04 Cor   Moulson 17 (unassisted)
1 12:37 Cor   Moulson 18 (Hynes 18)
2  02:00 Cor pp   Cook 7 (Knoepfli 10, Pegoraro 10)
3  07:57 Cor pp   Moulson 19 (Krantz 5, Cook 11)
3 18:45 UC   Poirier (unassisted)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Union 0 (pregame)
Post by: ben03 on February 19, 2005, 06:55:59 PM
someone needs to explain the PWR for the color guy ... he's a little confused  ::screwy::
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Union 0 (pregame)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
I was thinking that myself actually, I don't really understand everything behind it.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 06:59:34 PM
Yeah, that was pretty bad.

Cam, Sasha and Ryan still out.  :-/
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: French Rage on February 19, 2005, 07:03:12 PM
So is this the real game thread? :-D
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:08:03 PM
Nice Hynes-Moulson combo results in a goal.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: kaaren on February 19, 2005, 07:08:10 PM
MOULSON!!!!!


LGR!!!
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:10:08 PM
Iggulden penalty.

Scoring on the first Cornell goal:

1  02:04 Cor   Moulson 17 (unassisted)

Hynes fed Moulson and Mayotte made the save, but then the puck slid out and the UC D failed to notice it; Moulson just flipped it in.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:14:01 PM
Cook gets a charge, Cornell kills the 5x3.  Several odd man rushes on the kill for Cornell.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: French Rage on February 19, 2005, 07:15:22 PM
pk over
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:16:18 PM
"No shirt guy"?
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 07:17:34 PM
Idk, i think its thier new way of advertising cornell laundry. I was confused by it yesterday too ::screwy:: .

BTW greg, i did realize your thread was up. AND that its the better one ;-) .
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:17:38 PM
Hynes drawns a penalty, Cornell pp #1.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:24:59 PM
Then Cornell goes briefly on 5x3; UC kills both penalties.  Each team 0x2 early.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:26:22 PM
Moulson off a giveaway; 2-0.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 07:26:37 PM
MOULSON GOAL!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: kaaren on February 19, 2005, 07:27:10 PM
MOULSON on a giveaway!


LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Mike Hedrick 01 on February 19, 2005, 07:28:43 PM
Anyone know when Cornell last had a natural hat trick?
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 07:30:19 PM
Not much comment on the radio (middle of a commercial) but a stellar save by Mckee.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:32:43 PM
Here are the recent hat tricks: http://www.tbrw.info/games/cornellHatTricks.html

Nieuwy's on 2/28/87 was natural.  I'd bet it has happened since; I just don't have all the boxes.  Yet. ;-)
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: French Rage on February 19, 2005, 07:35:04 PM
So either McKee had the puck there or the net got pushed off before it went in.  Radio guys thought it was the latter at first but now the former.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: upperdeck on February 19, 2005, 07:36:47 PM
I get the feeling that with Union giving is so many odd man rushes we have gotten caught up in a very loose game and giving union too many chances..
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:38:41 PM
This, however, is easily the greatest natural hat trick in Cornell history: http://www.tbrw.info/boxScores/box19700321.html
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (1st)
Post by: pfibiger on February 19, 2005, 07:43:11 PM
Greg,

Is that box score complete? For some reason, I thought I'd seen a box for that game that showed Lodboa's 3 goals as even-strength, PP, and SHG. Of course, after I thought that, I wasn't able to find that box again.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (end 1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:45:50 PM
The early boxes I got from the Ithaca Journal, and sometimes they do not indicate the strength of the goal.  So, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (end 1st)
Post by: jy3 on February 19, 2005, 07:54:46 PM
checking in. i like the score :)
has the game been pretty even? looking at the shots 13-10, seems like more than cornell usually gives up -> onion getting good chances or just low quality shots?
lgr!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:56:03 PM
From the audio, it sounds like Cornell had a large advantage in the play, with Union having a couple of flurries.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 07:57:39 PM
Harvard up big on SLU now, 3-0.

Cornell pp with Moulson pulled down.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Union 0 (2nd)
Post by: kaaren on February 19, 2005, 07:59:39 PM
COOK!!!!!!!!!!


LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 08:01:54 PM
Scoring:

1  02:04 Cor   Moulson 17 (unassisted)
1 12:37 Cor   Moulson 18 (Hynes 18)
2  02:00 Cor pp   Cook 7 (Knoepfli 10, Pegoraro 10)

The announcment was for Krantz, but the announcers say it was Cook all the way.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 08:05:13 PM
Cornell kills a penalty, pp's now Cor 1x3 UC 0x3.

Man that laundry ad is annoying.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 08:13:18 PM
Another great McKee save while audio was on break...
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 08:22:12 PM
UC with several quality chances tonight; 18 SOGs.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 19, 2005, 08:39:03 PM
What's going on?
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 08:41:04 PM
cage girls are leaving the ice.

Now the ice is empty ::nut::
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: French Rage on February 19, 2005, 08:44:07 PM
did they not do the alma mater?  wtf?
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 08:46:21 PM
I like Jason, but he's gotta bone up on his playoff understanding.  "If they win, Cornell clinches a co-championship... discounting Harvard..."  Yikes.

How about, "if Cornell wins tonight, they clinch at worst a tie in points with Colgate, and since they win the tie-breaker, they clinch 2nd."
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 19, 2005, 08:51:44 PM
I thought we had the tie-breaker with sucks.  Are we tied on the tie-breaker?
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 08:58:17 PM
i'm pretty sure we have the tiebreaker, but if we lose out next weekend, they can still beat us. I think... thats atleast how i understood it.

Cornell on the PP.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: kaaren on February 19, 2005, 09:00:03 PM
MOULSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Hat trick!!!!!!!!!


LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 09:00:14 PM
MOULSON HAT TRICK!!!!!
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: French Rage on February 19, 2005, 09:00:30 PM
Well, we asked for it, we got it!
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 09:00:58 PM
MOULSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
::banana::


BTW, another really good use of the dancing banana :)
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: billhoward on February 19, 2005, 09:02:05 PM
Bitch, bitch, bitch. The announcers say Union is complaining about a Cornell delay of game ... for Cornell fans throwing hats on the ice (in the wake of Moulson's hat trick).
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd) (McKee B2B shutouts?)
Post by: billhoward on February 19, 2005, 09:04:35 PM
Does McKee have a weekend shutout or even back to back shutouts?
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 09:06:51 PM
Cornell audio dead.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (end 2nd)
Post by: billhoward on February 19, 2005, 09:07:33 PM
What does it matter theoretically? There is no way (okay, there was 1991) Cornell could not get at least one point in its final two-game weekend against the league's bottom feeders and thus clinch the RS title.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: ganderson on February 19, 2005, 09:08:12 PM
Anyone know the origin of the term "hat trick" (and willing to share it with the rest of us?)
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 09:08:45 PM
Note to the Woofing Gods: every Cornell hockey fan on Earth disavows Bill's previous comments and will dutifully sacrifice him if called upon to do so.  Just say the word.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd) (McKee B2B shutouts?)
Post by: David Harding on February 19, 2005, 09:08:54 PM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 Does McKee have a weekend shutout or even back to back shutouts?



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/19/05 09:05PM by billhoward.[/q]


St Lawrence 1/29/04, Colgate 2/4/05
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20042005&team=28&gender=m
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on February 19, 2005, 09:09:45 PM
billhoward:  the reason elynah needs an "ignore poster" feature :-P  (for the hockey gods, i mean...)
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 09:10:28 PM
Back.  7:32 to go, 4-0.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: Ivyman on February 19, 2005, 09:11:06 PM
Has anyone kept track of all the times the feed has gone down?  especially at the end of the game?

I would be happy to file a class action suit as soon as I settle my current divorce...:-(
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 19, 2005, 09:11:56 PM
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

 Note to the Woofing Gods: every Cornell hockey fan on Earth disavows Bill's previous comments and will dutifully sacrifice him if called upon to do so.  Just say the word.[/q]

The word is given.  And if his previous question blows McKee's S.O., that sacrifice becomes "with extreme prejudice."

Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 09:12:57 PM
I'd do my duty and travel from Florida for said sacrifice
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: billhoward on February 19, 2005, 09:13:21 PM
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:  Note to the Woofing Gods: every Cornell hockey fan on Earth disavows Bill's previous comments and will dutifully sacrifice him if called upon to do so.  Just say the word.[/q] When you were 4, didn't you ever stand on top of your bed and yell, "There are NO monsters in my closet!"? And then dive under the covers and lie really, really still?

BTW the announcers are talking about the back to back shutout, too. I'm safe. I'm not alone.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: David Harding on February 19, 2005, 09:13:50 PM
[Q]ganderson Wrote:

 Anyone know the origin of the term "hat trick" (and willing to share it with the rest of us?)[/q]

Ask Yahoo says it's an old cricket tradition.
http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20010823.html

The Maven's Word of the Day agrees
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19990126

Dates from the the 1870's.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: jy3 on February 19, 2005, 09:13:53 PM
moulson with the hatty, that is sweet :) keeps proving he among the top o-men in the league +- country :)
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 09:17:50 PM
So that just means we have mass sacrifices though right?
kinda like jumping off the bridge... just cause everyone else is doing it?
But then if its into bebe lake, i guess its ok if you can deal with the toxic looking foam ;).
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 09:18:20 PM
You'll only be safe in 2:24.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on February 19, 2005, 09:20:02 PM
off with his head.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd) (postmortem)
Post by: billhoward on February 19, 2005, 09:20:26 PM
[Q]Jeff Hopkins '82 Wrote:

 [Q2]Trotsky Wrote:

 Note to the Woofing Gods: every Cornell hockey fan on Earth disavows Bill's previous comments and will dutifully sacrifice him if called upon to do so.  Just say the word.[/Q]
The word is given.  And if his previous question blows McKee's S.O., that sacrifice becomes "with extreme prejudice."

[/q]To be clear *all* blame is attributed to the short jerk from New Jersey (whose wife still loves him dearly, regardless), there were three requests for this weekend:

- 2 PPG [edit: points per game (average) not power play goals] for Moulson to continue on pace to 100 points  by end of junior year (now has 4 for the weekend)
- hat trick for Moulson
- 2 shutouts for Cornell and Mckee (oops, sorry)

[further edit Sunday ayem] Hmm, woke up with a sharp pain in in my shoulder, as if 3836 voodoo pins had been stuck in it. OTOH, one sees elsewhere on the forum other mea culpas from fans ready to head for th exits after saying, "Yep, McKee has this one locked up."
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 09:20:37 PM
Where's the mob meeting?
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 09:22:48 PM
I know what we should hoist to the rafters in three weeks...
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: billhoward on February 19, 2005, 09:23:38 PM
Why me for blowing the shutout? It will be easier to attack the announcers, who mentioned it a half-dozen times.  
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on February 19, 2005, 09:25:24 PM
They're announcers...they're supposed to.   Fans, on the other hand, get strung up by their unmentionables for this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd)
Post by: kaaren on February 19, 2005, 09:25:40 PM
Bill, I think you're a marked man.  The world is just too small.  


LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 09:27:08 PM
I wish Jason would shut up; I want to hear Arthur announce the seniors.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: Rosey on February 19, 2005, 09:27:39 PM
Jason, please shut up... good lord, let's hear Arthur.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: Trotsky on February 19, 2005, 09:28:57 PM
OK, postgame thread going up.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: ganderson on February 19, 2005, 09:33:58 PM
USCHO reports the final score as Cornell 4, Union 0.
Wish they knew something I didnt.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 0 (3rd) (McKee B2B shutouts?)
Post by: ninian '72 on February 19, 2005, 09:38:42 PM
We shouldn't have brought this one up!  :-(
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: billhoward on February 19, 2005, 09:40:12 PM
Thank you, iMax or MixedUpI sports for keeping the senior night feed alive even after the music died.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: puff on February 19, 2005, 09:41:16 PM
i agree. i just wish it hadn't cut out in the middle of the alma mater
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: hatrick on February 19, 2005, 11:20:36 PM
Does anyone know how the ladie that got hit with the puck is doing tonight? it looked really bad.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: ugarte on February 19, 2005, 11:51:38 PM
[Q]hatrick Wrote:

 Does anyone know how the ladie that got hit with the puck is doing tonight? it looked really bad.[/q]Her medical condition should be kept confidential.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: Ken71 on February 20, 2005, 12:52:24 AM
I was across the ice, so we couldn't really see what was happening, but we all were very concerned about how long it took to get her out of there.   Does anyone know why it took so long?

Even after they had the gurney waiting at the top of the stairs (and it took quite a while for that to happen), it seemed like an awful long time before they tried to move her out.

I have to wonder how much of a distraction it was for the plarers - it certainly was a distraction for those close enough to see what was going on.

Ken '71
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: billhoward on February 20, 2005, 08:21:55 AM
If there's a debate on putting netting along the *sides* of the rink, the severity of injuries to spectators may be at issue. Individual's privacy vs. public's need to informed debate.

I'm not a doctor (but then not all doctors are emergency medical personnel either). Even though the papers and TV almost always say "Paramedics raced the patient to Mass General ... " often it's more important to stabilize the victim, not rush them away from where they were hurt. And so the ambulance doesn't always race (it could get in an accident); in some cases where EMTs deal with an emotional family, they race down the block, turn the corner, and then proceed at a more reasonable pace.

You want a spine board under a person who fell, etcetera. Fast response of trained EMTs to reach the injured person counts for more than fast time into the ambulance or fast time to the hospital. Not every time but for most accidents and injuries that require medical transport.

Let's hope the person who got hurt is recovering. Cornell has had enough tragedy already with spectators hit by pucks. I hate end netting but there it does make sense.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: Will on February 20, 2005, 09:57:07 AM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:

Even though the papers and TV almost always say "Paramedics raced the patient to Mass General ... " [/Q]

That'd be pretty amazing here in Tompkins County. :-P


[q]Let's hope the person who got hurt is recovering. Cornell has had enough tragedy already with spectators hit by pucks. I hate end netting but there it does make sense. [/q]

Those of us who were in the visitors' section at the game at Colgate a few weeks ago (perhaps ever? That was only my second @Colgate game) were pretty much risking our lives to watch that game.  The netting around that end was so low (perhaps half as high as the netting at Lynah), I seriously feared for my life.  During warmups, a woman in the third row or so was hit by a puck.  Luckily she was able to walk out of there, as opposed to going out on a stretcher.  She was later able to return to the game, so I guess it wasn't that serious.  (I recall that right before she left, she was complaining about having to miss the game to treat the injury.  Now THAT's a true fan.)  Nevertheless, I told her to sue.  She probably wouldn't win due to the standard legalese that come with tickets (even though the printed tickets did NOT have a little blurb on the back like Cornell tickets do), but the publicity might be enough to get Colgate to actually put a decent net around the ends of the rink.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: billhoward on February 20, 2005, 10:40:16 AM
Hit by a puck where the rink installed end zone netting but not high enough to protect the fans? That's a case where the plaintiff at least has a reasonable case of making a legal case. The boilerplate legalese on the ticket doesn't provide blanket immunity.

When I sat in end zone seats in days before netting, I was conscious of watching pucks coming my way and also in the direction of my girlfriend if she was chatting up her friend ... but I could also see how I could be inattentive and get nailed if I attended enough games.

But I also used to ride a bike without a helmet and now wouldn't think of doing that. The world's changing. As we run out of some of the old-standby natural things to die from - polio, TB, influenza (could be making a comeback), childhood colds, smallpox - I think we've become more conscious of what's left: auto accidents, homicides, suicides, falls. Thus bicycle helmets, seat belts, and rink netting.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: Will on February 20, 2005, 10:52:50 AM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:

When I sat in end zone seats in days before netting, I was conscious of watching pucks coming my way and also in the direction of my girlfriend if she was chatting up her friend ... but I could also see how I could be inattentive and get nailed if I attended enough games.

[/q]

I can imagine that sometimes, even if one is completely attentive to the game and where the puck is, it might not be enough.  Imagine a misplaced slapshot, or a shot deflected into the stands, or heaven forbid the glass just isn't strong enough.  And occasionally, a visiting player will get so miffed at the home fans, he'll toss a puck blatantly right at the fans, which happened last night.  (I think it was Olivier Bouchard who did it, but don't quote me on that.  And as I type this, I wish I had known what this guy's first name was last night, because I would have mocked him mercilessly about it.)
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: billhoward on February 20, 2005, 10:55:20 AM
The shot that injured the spectator was deliberate, or an unrelated puck flip?
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: Will on February 20, 2005, 11:23:27 AM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 The shot that injured the spectator was deliberate, or an unrelated puck flip? [/q]

Oh, I didn't mean to confuse you.  The shot that injured the townie spectator was totally unrelated (I believe it was even flipped up by one of our guys during a clearing attempt, accidentally of course).  The alleged Bouchard shot was flipped at the students.
Title: Re: Cornell 4 Union 1
Post by: David Harding on February 20, 2005, 07:46:37 PM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
When I sat in end zone seats in days before netting, I was conscious of watching pucks coming my way and also in the direction of my girlfriend if she was chatting up her friend ... but I could also see how I could be inattentive and get nailed if I attended enough games. [/q]
Inattentive?  Look at it this way: every once in a while McKee sometimes misses a puck coming his way!

[q] But I also used to ride a bike without a helmet and now wouldn't think of doing that. The world's changing. As we run out of some of the old-standby natural things to die from - polio, TB, influenza (could be making a comeback), childhood colds, smallpox - I think we've become more conscious of what's left: auto accidents, homicides, suicides, falls. Thus bicycle helmets, seat belts, and rink netting.[/q]
I shudder when I think of my formative years sitting in the front row of Lynah before they put up glass around the sides.