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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: Greg Berge on November 04, 2004, 09:57:03 AM

Title: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Greg Berge on November 04, 2004, 09:57:03 AM
http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13291403&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517518&rfi=6&xb=kiyat

Brown-Quinnipiac
Yale-Brown
Harvard-Dartmouth
Cornell-Colgate
Princeton-Yale
SLU-Clarkson

OK, wait a minute, that makes no sense.... ;-)
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Greg Berge on November 04, 2004, 10:01:28 AM
I assume they meant:

Cornell-Colgate
RPI-Union
SLU-Clarkson
Dartmouth-Harvard
Princeton-Quinnipiac
Brown-Yale
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Josh '99 on November 04, 2004, 10:14:23 AM
Really?  Since they had Brown paired with Q as the first listing, I figured they were going for:

Cornell-Colgate
Harvard-Dartmouth
Brown-Quinnipiac
Yale-Princeton
RPI-Union
Clarkson-SLU

Edit:  Which would seem to make sense given that Hamden is (if only marginally) closer to Providence than New Haven is.  Also breaks up fewer existing partnerships.
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Greg Berge on November 04, 2004, 10:17:27 AM
According to the USCHO thread, it is in fact Brown-Yale; Harvard-Dartmouth; Quinnipiac-Princeton.  People are already complaining that it makes no sense.
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Josh '99 on November 04, 2004, 10:19:43 AM
[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:

 According to the USCHO thread, it is in fact Brown-Yale; Harvard-Dartmouth; Quinnipiac-Princeton.  People are already complaining that it makes no sense.[/q]Well, it DOES make no sense.  ::nut::
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Greg Berge on November 04, 2004, 10:20:48 AM
Here's the section of the article:

(snip)

There’s a chance Quinnipiac could play all of its games at Ingalls.

The ECAC announced the Bobcats will join with Princeton as league travel partners. Yale, which has been paired with Princeton for more than a decade, will partner with Brown while Harvard and Dartmouth will match up starting next season.

McDonald said the school is close to securing the Hartford Civic Center for its inaugural ECAC home game against Harvard on Nov. 4, 2005. The Bobcats may also use the same venue to play host to Dartmouth the following evening.

If construction goes according to plan, Quinnipiac’s new 3,500-seat hockey arena is scheduled to open in January 2007 with a game against â€" who else â€" Yale
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Will on November 04, 2004, 10:25:53 AM
The obvious problem is that you either get two moderate-sized pairs (Brown-Yale and Q-Princeton) or one really close pair and one really far pair (Yale-Q and Brown-Princeton).  There's no good solution, and I don't think any solution particularly makes sense.  Then again, in the latter plan, it actually gives Princeton a sporting chance to do well in the conference. :-D
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 04, 2004, 10:39:02 AM
[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 [Q2]Greg Berge Wrote:

 According to the USCHO thread, it is in fact Brown-Yale; Harvard-Dartmouth; Quinnipiac-Princeton.  People are already complaining that it makes no sense.[/Q]
Well, it DOES make no sense.   [/q]
Choosing Quinnipiac made no sense in the first place.

Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 04, 2004, 11:48:07 AM
I think they decided to return to the old days of Yale-Brown, so long as they were returning to the old days of Harvard-Dartmouth. The difference is travel times between Hamden and New Haven is trivial. In fact, actually travel time wise, New Haven is probably close to both, since its on 95... from Hamden you're gonna have to go down to New Haven to get on 95 to head north to Brown, or south to Princeton. So travel-wise it was a wash.
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: jeh25 on November 04, 2004, 11:56:58 AM
[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 Really?  Since they had Brown paired with Q as the first listing, I figured they were going for:

Cornell-Colgate
Harvard-Dartmouth
Brown-Quinnipiac
Yale-Princeton
RPI-Union
Clarkson-SLU

Edit:  Which would seem to make sense given that Hamden is (if only marginally) closer to Providence than New Haven is.  Also breaks up fewer existing partnerships.



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 11/04/04 10:16AM by jmh30.[/q]

Actually, Hamden is farther from Providence travelwise... by about 10 minutes.



Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 04, 2004, 11:58:44 AM
[Q]jeh25 Wrote:

 [Q2]jmh30 Wrote:

Actually, Hamden is farther from Providence travelwise... by about 10 minutes.[/q]

The Connecticut contingent (well, me formerly, at least) strikes again ;-)
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: Josh '99 on November 04, 2004, 12:41:44 PM
Alright, I'll certainly cede to the Connecticut folks on the travel time issue.  The map I looked at made Hamden look (again, at best, marginally) closer to Providence, but that was pure as-the-crow-flies distance.  If what you guys are saying is right, then this does make the most sense.  (As opposed to, say, Yale-Quinnipiac and Brown-Princeton).
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: ursusminor on November 04, 2004, 02:13:46 PM
Having Yale and Quinnipiac in different pairings also allows for the possibility of QU using Yale's rink when they are on the road.
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: A-19 on November 04, 2004, 03:40:26 PM
well, the harvard weekend certainly got a bit more interesting
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: nyc94 on November 04, 2004, 03:54:57 PM
[Q]A-19 Wrote:

 well, the harvard weekend certainly got a bit more interesting[/q]

And time consuming - for me anyway.

Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: jeh25 on November 04, 2004, 05:34:01 PM
[Q]ursaminor Wrote:

 Having Yale and Quinnipiac in different pairings also allows for the possibility of QU using Yale's rink when they are on the road.[/q]

I assume the Yale women normally use Ingalls when the men are travelling.

Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: KeithK on November 04, 2004, 07:05:39 PM
[q]I assume the Yale women normally use Ingalls when the men are travelling. [/q]Depends on when their games are.  Judging by this year, the Yale women already play their Saturday games at 4pm (looks like a standard ECAC thing) and have a couple of Sunday games.  I can imagine a deal where the Yale women play Saturday/Sunday for a year or two, with Yale presumably getting payment or a part of the gate.  Or else the opposite.
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: JDeafv on November 04, 2004, 11:21:30 PM
This makes no sense - the current system would split up 3 of the current partners, the following system would only split up 2.  

Why not:
Cornell-Colgate (duh)
RPI-Union (duh)
SLU-Clarkson (duh)
Brown-Harvard (convenient for Southwest cheap tickets and only 1 hour apart)
Dartmouth-Yale
Princeton-Quinnipiac

The Dartmouth-Yale pair is only marginally farther than Dartmouth-Brown, and it keeps Harvard-Brown together.


Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: billhoward on November 05, 2004, 12:16:44 AM
[Q]JDeafv Wrote:

 This makes no sense - the current system would split up 3 of the current partners, the following system would only split up 2.  

Why not:
Cornell-Colgate (duh)
RPI-Union (duh)
SLU-Clarkson (duh)
Brown-Harvard (convenient for Southwest cheap tickets and only 1 hour apart)
Dartmouth-Yale
Princeton-Quinnipiac

The Dartmouth-Yale pair is only marginally farther than Dartmouth-Brown, and it keeps Harvard-Brown together.


[/q]

Isn't the Ivy basketball pairing Harvard-Dartmouth and Yale-Brown already?
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: KeithK on November 05, 2004, 01:22:17 AM
[q]Isn't the Ivy basketball pairing Harvard-Dartmouth and Yale-Brown already? [/q]Yes.
Title: Re: 2005-06 ECAC Traveling Partnerships
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 05, 2004, 01:23:43 AM
Personally, I was hoping for a Princeton-Dartmouth travel partnership. :-P