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Matt Connors, a Junior at Nichols School inBuffalo has committed to Cornell. H e will begin play in the 2005 season.

Who?  Do you have any stats on him?  Position?  How town? Etc.:-)

All I could find on the kid is that he plays RW and is 6'1", and played on the gold medal winning 'western new york' team in the empire state games.

Is this kid Larry Pierce v3.0? (Sammy P being the new & improved Larry Pierce v2.0)

[Q]jeh25 Wrote:

 Is this kid Larry Pierce v3.0? (Sammy P being the new & improved Larry Pierce v2.0)[/q]

Hmm...  if Larry Pierce v1.0 had a sister who won the Hockey Humanitarian Award, and Larry Pierce v2.0 won it himself, does that mean Larry Pierce v3.0 will have to win it twice?

The 2005 season is the upcoming (04-05) season.  Presumably, this guy is coming in Fall '05.

A little more info:

6’1”, 195 lb. Matt Connors, a fast, high-scoring wing with Nichols School and the Buffalo Saints midget major team, has committed to Cornell for the fall of ’05.

Connors, a right shot from Buffalo Grove, NY, is a big get for Cornell. He’s an exciting player who creates numerous chances with his speed, often breaking free for a breakaway. His size and ability to finish round out the picture. Last year, Connors played a combined 70 games for Nichols and the Saints, and finished with a 78-51-129 line. The other schools in Connors’ final five were Maine, Michigan State, Yale, and Dartmouth.


Do speed and Cornell go together? ;-)

Beating out Maine and Michgian State is sweet.

Hey, beating out Yale and Dartmouth is pretty good too.  Obviously, I want better players to go to the ECAC, but if they're going to go the ECAC, they'd better come to Cornell! :-D

ignore.

I believe the Nichols School is a prep school in Massachussetts.  Did he graduate from there, and then move onto Buffalo for Juniors?  It's about time Schafer picked up a solid prep player, Paolini being the last one.

The Nichols School is in Buffalo not Massachussetts (and they def play quality hockey).

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

 The Nichols School is in Buffalo not Massachussetts (and they def play quality hockey).[/q]
Right.  

The 67-68 team played in a holiday tournament at Nichols against Waterloo and Toronto.  The 1-0 OT win against the latter was very meaningful to the players as Toronto was the defending Canadian college champion and Cornell the defending American champ, and most of the Cornell team hailed from Ontario.

[Q]Mark Wrote:

He’s an exciting player who creates numerous chances with his speed, often breaking free for a breakaway. His size and ability to finish round out the picture. [/q]


So I guess, in a couple of years, we might score a shorthanded goal!  ::nut::

With prep school numbers like that, he looks like Ryan Moynihan v2.0.  Let's hope he has an even better Cornell career (note: not meant to disparage Moynihan in any way).

Didn't Jason Dailey '98 come from the Nichols School?  
Boy are we going to be nasty these next few years.  It won't be long before we are the clear-cut premier program in the league (like Harvard 80's and Clarkson 90's).

Tim Vanini was a Nichols School grad.

Both Dailey and Vanini went to Nichols.  Another thing they have in common:  Both made bad clearing attempts that directly led to opponents scoring GW OT goals against us.  Vanini in 1991 against SLU in the ECAC semis, and Dailey in 1997 against Yale at home.
Lets hope Connors does not follow this tradition.

[Q]JT Wrote:

 Both Dailey and Vanini went to Nichols.  Another thing they have in common:  Both made bad clearing attempts that directly led to opponents scoring GW OT goals against us.  Vanini in 1991 against SLU in the ECAC semis, and Dailey in 1997 against Yale at home.
Lets hope Connors does not follow this tradition.[/q]
I remember all too well the infamous Dailey pass-through-the-slot resulting in a goal that time.  I think that's the only time I ever heard a Cornell player booed by its own fans.

Cheers,
Kyle

My bad, Vanini ran into Jim Crozier (our goalie) resulting the GW goal being scored.

But Vanini also scored a game-tying goal against Harvard at Lynah in the regular season, off a face-off with a few seconds to go, back when anything other than a loss by Cornell was unexpected (2/9/91).

Other Nichols alums include Peter Ciavaglia (Harvard; IMO, best player on 1989 NCAA champion), Scott Thomas (Clarkson), Ryan Sittler (Michigan and son of Darryl) and Jeff Schulman (Vermont; scored winning goal vs. eventual national champ Harvard in 1989 ECAC semifinals).  And OT, Christian Laettner.

If Connors is as good as Jason Dailey, I would be thrilled. Even if he gives up a game winning goal a few times. Jason played an integral part of the team that got us the '96 and '97 championships.

But has Cornell committed to Matt Connors? In theory, at least, one has to apply, Cornell checks out your grades and SATs, and says yea or nay, sometimes as early as December, but not in July. Or is this a deferred admission (although your note says he's a junior, so probably not)?

I'm a little hazy on how many wildcard admissions the coaches get now, if this still exists, but I think the applicant still has to have some academic functionality so he can get through Cornell.

It could mean that the kid has strong enough grades/scores that he's very likely to be admitted when he does apply, even if he hasn't yet.

Salmon Arm SilverBacks release....

QuoteEvan Barlow Secures NCAA Scholarship
September 20th, 2004: Second year forward Evan Barlow has accepted a Division 1 NCAA Scholarship with Cornell University in New York. Barlow will begin his first season with the Cornel Big Red next September. Evan will join former SilverBack player Mitch Carefoot who was drafted earlier this summer by the Atlanta Thrashers in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft. Cornell University is located in thaca, New York. Evan played in 56 games last season for the SilverBacks scoring 22 goals, 29 assists for 51 points and 129 penalty minutes. Barlow wears #39 for the Backs

http://www.sasilverbacks.com/roster.php?pid=26

[Q]MikeR Wrote:

 Salmon Arm SilverBacks release....

[Q2]Evan Barlow Secures NCAA Scholarship
September 20th, 2004: Second year forward Evan Barlow has accepted a Division 1 NCAA Scholarship with Cornell University in New York. Barlow will begin his first season with the Cornel Big Red next September. Evan will join former SilverBack player Mitch Carefoot who was drafted earlier this summer by the Atlanta Thrashers in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft. Cornell University is located in thaca, New York. Evan played in 56 games last season for the SilverBacks scoring 22 goals, 29 assists for 51 points and 129 penalty minutes. Barlow wears #39 for the Backs[/Q]
http://www.sasilverbacks.com/roster.php?pid=26[/q]

I know we're supposed to give Canadians a free pass on their inability to distinguish between an athletic scholarship and financial aid, but can we at least ask that they consistently spell "Cornell" (and "Ithaca") correctly? ::nut::

A projected recruit listed on http://www.ontariodraft.com/article34.html , Matt Beca of Oakville. I think they are saying that they think  he will commit to Cornell, not that it has happened.

Matt Beca-RC Oakville (OPJHL) 5'10  160  3-6-86          

2004-2005 STATS:
38-16-26-42-21

2003-2004 STATS:
49-15-30-45-30

As I understand the system, coaches "commit" to recruits in the sense that they advise admissions that a particular player is a "recruited" player (at one of the schools my son has dealt with, the coach referred to it as "sponsoring" the student athlete for admissions).  The player still has to be admitted based on university admission standards (meeting the academic index, etc.), but being a recruited athlete is plus (a big plus, I suspect) in the file.

I was looking for information about Matt Beca, checking to see if he was listed on Heisenberg's undrafted players section..and was checking out who had/hadn't committed in the USNTDP.

Anyway, I found this bit in a on hockeyscouting.ca article about a highly regarded d-man in the NTDP. He's an upstate kid (grew up in Auburn, played for a junior club in Syracuse):

http://www.hockeyscouting.ca/main/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=1&pid=963

Chad Morin on what College he is planning to attend:

"I haven't made a decision, and right now, I'm not leaning towards any particular schools. I don't really see the need for early commitments, but now it's getting to that point in my school career where I have to start looking into some schools. Obviously schools like BU and BC are top notch, as well as other Hockey East clubs like Maine or New Hampshire. Cornell is a first class school with a great program real close to home. To be completely honest, I just don't know yet. I like to stay focused on one thing at a time, and right now that's getting ready to go for next season. The rest should fall into place."

and then saw in the comments that people believe he's deciding between BU, BC and Cornell. (yes it required poking through the html source since the google cache of the article breaks the javascript.)

If I recall correctly, Morin is somehow related (cousin, perhaps?) of JD Forrest of BC.  My cousins grew up with them in Auburn, and as JD's career was progressing, they'd always say, "but Chad is supposed to be better..."

BC doesn't have room for Morin, they're filled at defense next year and the following:

Sr.Peter Harrold   So.Todd Perry
Fr.Brett Motherwell   So.Mike Brennan
Fr.Tim Kunes   Fr.Tim Filangieri
Fr.Anthony Aiello   So.Brian O'Hanley


BU has one spot:

Sr.Jekabs Rehdlis   Jr.Sean Sullivan
So.Dan McGoff   Jr.Kevin Schaeffer
Sr.Danny Spang   Fr.______
Jr.Thomas Morrow   So.Kevin Kielt

Cornell will need to replace Downs and Cook next year.   Thus far we have commitments and projections from no defensemen: http://www.tbrw.info/2006/2006enteringPlayers.html

Certainly a defenseman or two need to be added, but they'll still be in good shape with Gleed (greatly exceeded expectations last year, IMO), O'Byrne, Glover, Krantz, Pokuluk, and Salmela.  O'Byrne will theoretically be a top pair guy as could Gleed and possibly Krantz.  Again, they will need to add one or two defensemen, but they'll still be alright evan after losing Downs and Cook.

- Barlow is off to a bit of a slow start stats-wise with 1 goal and 2 assists in 6 games and is 7th on Salmon Arm in scoring.  He has missed 3 games either due to injury or being scratched (most likely the former).
- Nanaimo is off to an outstanding start going 8-1 thus far.  Mugford still seems to be in a checking role as he is 8th in team scoring with 4 goals and 2 assists in 9 games.
- I can't find Connors' numbers anywhere.  He is listed as playing for Applecore at Heisenberg's site but he is not on the roster so I don't know where he is.
- Matt Beca (not on Heisenberg's site yet for Cornell) is off to good start with 6 goals and 6 assists in in 5 games for 4th in team scoring.
- Chad Morin (another non-guaruntee for Cornell) has 1 goal and 2 assists in 5 games with the U18 team.

Connors line of 9/26 is 10-1-5-6-6. See http://www.applecorejunior.com/Juniors/SUBPAGE/FRAMEPAGES/PAGES/Stats04_05.htm

Connors is out 4 weeks w/ some unspecified injury [from applecorejunior.com]. He recorded 3 assists in the game before he was injured.

from sasilverbacks.com:
"Evan Barlow received a match penalty at 9:48 of the 3rd period for a vicious cross check and is out of the SilverBacks lineup for a minimum of three games."

doesn't sound like he was the one being injured...

Not very impressive at all when you look at some of the other guys' numbers.

[Q]Go Red Wrote:

 Not very impressive at all when you look at some of the other guys' numbers.[/q]

Was thinking the same thing but it is early in the season.  It should be noted that Beca and Morin both seem to be first rate prospects and getting both of them would totally change the complexion of the recruiting class.  With both of them, all of the sudden, the other guys are all solid pickups instead of average ones.

New recruit Evan the vicious cross-checker is the brother of Harvard's Blair the...

Connors' stats have not been updated from the OHA tournament I believe. His stats should be 10gp-2-11-13pts. Hope that helps. Go Big Red!!!

Evan Barlow came back from the suspension and has been getting his stat line back in order. A 3 assist game was followed by a 2 goal 1 assist game and most recently a 2 goal 2 assist game.

his line is now 9-6-7-13-19

http://www.sasilverbacks.com/

I just found out from a usually reliable source that Cornell has received a commitment from Colin Greening of Upper Canada College (a prep school in Toronto).  I suppose that I should be happy that he's going to an ECAC school, but I am not since Cornell beat out RPI among others. :`(

last year's stats from USHR 32-41-73
LW    6' 1    180    03/09/86    St. John's, NL Canada  

[Q]ursaminor Wrote:

 I just found out from a usually reliable source that Cornell has received a commitment from Colin Greening of Upper Canada College (a prep school in Toronto).  I suppose that I should be happy that he's going to an ECAC school, but I am not since Cornell beat out RPI among others.  

last year's stats from USHR 32-41-73
LW    6' 1    180    03/09/86    St. John's, NL Canada  [/q]

Just out of curiosity, how did you find this out?  USHR?

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how did you find this out?  USHR?[/q] As I said "a usually reliable source". :-D USHR mentioned that Clarkson, Cornell, and RPI were in the hunt for Greening some time ago. They haven't mentioned him since then.

Congrats to Cornell for getting him. From everything that I can determine, he is an excellent player.

[Q]ursaminor Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how did you find this out?  USHR?[/Q]
As I said "a usually reliable source".  USHR mentioned that Clarkson, Cornell, and RPI were in the hunt for Greening some time ago. They haven't mentioned him since then.

Congrats to Cornell for getting him. From everything that I can determine, he is an excellent player.[/q]

So this is early Early Decision?

FWIW, Heisenberg's site is now listing Greening for Cornell. I doubt this makes it any more official than ursaminor's info did, and for all we know it was plucked from here/uscho.

http://members.aol.com/cheisenber/Recruit05.htm

Well in their defense, I have never seen a recruit listed there that did not end up being accurate so I'll take his reporting as near-fact.  Based on Ursaminor's past posts, he definitely has a legitimate inside track and will take his reporting as near-fact as well.

Chris Heisenberg is usually a reliable source. ;-)

(There is, of course, his grandfather's uncertainty principle, so you can't be sure.  :-})

Heisenberg lists another Cornell recuit, that being Mike Kennedy out of the Western Ontario League.  I think it's Junior B.  He's 6'2, 175 with 17-9-26 in 46 games last year.

I just dont get that. Very modest numbers in a Junior B league and he gets recruited to one of the best schools and teams in the nation? why?

[Q]mjh89 Wrote:

 I just dont get that. Very modest numbers in a Junior B league and he gets recruited to one of the best schools and teams in the nation? why?[/q]

I was thinking the same thing.  Maybe he fits a certain role very well.  
One has to think they are done looking for forwards for next year with five committed already and only three graduating.  That would give Cornell 17 forwards next year.  Seems like too many.  Maybe a couple of those guys are for 2006.

You can't judge the package from the numbers. He may be the greatest faceoff man since Nieuwy.  He may be a checking demon on skates.

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

 The Nichols School is in Buffalo not Massachussetts (and they def play quality hockey).[/q]

If anyone remembers him I believe Phil Nobel, a player from the late 80's early 90's was from Nichols as well.

26 points in 46 games as a forward? Defenseman?

listed as a center

Colin Greening and Matt Connors made the NHL CSB Players to Watch list http://centralscouting.nhl.com/csmenu.nsf/public?openframeset&login=1

If it asks:

username: public access
password: hockey 2004

It's theoretically possible to move a guy back from F to D.

[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:

 It's theoretically possible to move a guy back from F to D.[/q]Wow, I guess so:-P . The reason I mentioned on another thread, that I was interested in Dan Lodboa's #14 jersey, was because of that very point. He was a good forward on the 67-68 team, as a soph. The next season Coach Harkness "moved him back" to D. All he did was to become an All-American, at D, for the 1970 team. Not that those things are as likely in modern ;-)  times, but it certainly worked then. As an aside, that same year, 68-69, Coach Harkness moved Steve Giuliani from D to F.

[Q]Jim Hyla Wrote:

 [Q2]Greg Berge Wrote:

 It's theoretically possible to move a guy back from F to D.[/Q]
Wow, I guess so . The reason I mentioned on another thread, that I was interested in Dan Lodboa's #14 jersey, was because of that very point. He was a good forward on the 67-68 team, as a soph. The next season Coach Harkness "moved him back" to D. All he did was to become an All-American, at D, for the 1970 team. Not that those things are as likely in modern   times, but it certainly worked then. As an aside, that same year, 68-69, Coach Harkness moved Steve Giuliani from D to F.[/q]

Harry Orr was another All-American D whom Ned moved from F.  I think Bruce Pattison might have been a forward before his varsity tenure as well.  My recollection on Giuliani is the reverse, Jim.  Last year's media guide lists him as a W in 67-68 and 68-69, and then a D/W in 69-70.

I'm guessing the transition would be tougher today than it was then, but I'm not sure I can give any good reasons why.

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]Jim Hyla Wrote:

 [Q2]Greg Berge Wrote:

 It's theoretically possible to move a guy back from F to D.[/Q]
Wow, I guess so . The reason I mentioned on another thread, that I was interested in Dan Lodboa's #14 jersey, was because of that very point. He was a good forward on the 67-68 team, as a soph. The next season Coach Harkness "moved him back" to D. All he did was to become an All-American, at D, for the 1970 team. Not that those things are as likely in modern   times, but it certainly worked then. As an aside, that same year, 68-69, Coach Harkness moved Steve Giuliani from D to F.[/Q]
Harry Orr was another All-American D whom Ned moved from F.  I think Bruce Pattison might have been a forward before his varsity tenure as well.  My recollection on Giuliani is the reverse, Jim.  Last year's media guide lists him as a W in 67-68 and 68-69, and then a D/W in 69-70.

I'm guessing the transition would be tougher today than it was then, but I'm not sure I can give any good reasons why.[/q]Al, I got my info from the old Intercollegiate Hockey Newsletter. As an aside, did you ever get that? It was published for years by Don T. Birkmayer, out of Troy. Anyway, his Nov. 26, 1968 edition lists Giuliani as switched fron defense. I'll try and look it up further, but not now,

[Q]Jim Hyla Wrote:
Al, I got my info from the old Intercollegiate Hockey Newsletter. As an aside, did you ever get that? It was published for years by Don T. Birkmayer, out of Troy. Anyway, his Nov. 26, 1968 edition lists Giuliani as switched fron defense. I'll try and look it up further, but not now,[/q]
I remember the Intercollegiate Hockey Newsletter, but never subscribed.  

As I recall, when Ned switched Orr to defense, he moved Paul Althouse from defense to forward--so there was at least one "reverse" conversion.  Interesting swap.  Speed and quickness from F to D; size from D to F.

FWIW, Don Birkmayer, the longtime RPI PA announcer, retired a few years ago and moved to Ithaca of all places.  

Lodboa played left wing his entire sopomore year, '67-'68, then played only left defense thereafter.  At the beginning of his junior year he had no shot from the point whatsoever, to the point where it was almost comical.  However, all of the sudden (I'm sure after a lot of practice), he had this great slapshot which showed up at a Christmas break tournament in Boston.  Everyone had been overplaying Bruce Pattison, who had an awesome shot from the right point, and this made us absolutely awesome with the two of them out there, especially on the power play.  I remember returning to Ithaca after the break to report the good news about Lodboa's development.
As far as Giuliani, he also started as a forward, and my recollection is that he moved back mid-way through his sophomore year, after playing on a line with Garth Ryan and John Hughes for the first half of the season.   Based upon what others have said here, perhaps it was the middle of his junior year though.  However, other than Pattison, Giuliani, Lodboa and Lowe, I can't think of any other defenseman for the '68-'69 year (maybe Ian Orr but he didn't get any playing time), so I think the change came earlier, and I'm sure it was a mid-year switch for him.

[Q]jkahn Wrote:

However, other than Pattison, Giuliani, Lodboa and Lowe, I can't think of any other defenseman for the '68-'69 year (maybe Ian Orr but he didn't get any playing time), so I think the change came earlier, and I'm sure it was a mid-year switch for him.[/q]
The roster in last year's media guide shows Richard Fullan as a defenseman in 68-69, but I have no recollection of him playing.  Of the four you named above,  two (Lodboa and Giuliani) started their Cornell careers as forwards, and somewhere I believe I read Pattison was at one time a forward, too (but that could also be totally inaccurate).

FWIW, I have the program for the Cornell game at RPI on 12/4/68 (won by RPI in OT, BTW :-D ) showing the following defensemen dressed for Cornell: Lowe, Fullan, Lodboa, Duthie, Pattison, and Orr. Fullan and Pattison started.

[Q] Al wrote:
 I believe I read Pattison was at one time a forward, too (but that could also be totally inaccurate). [/Q]
I believe the only time Bruce played forward on the varsity was a game at Colgate in '68-'69 where he played center, which seemed strange to all of us there, and almost like Ned and Bruce decided to have a little fun against a weaker opponent.  We won 7-0 and he played well.  He may have been a forward as a freshman though.  

[Q]jkahn Wrote:

 [Q2] Al wrote:
 I believe I read Pattison was at one time a forward, too (but that could also be totally inaccurate). [/Q]
I believe the only time Bruce played forward on the varsity was a game at Colgate in '68-'69 where he played center, which seemed strange to all of us there, and almost like Ned and Bruce decided to have a little fun against a weaker opponent.  We won 7-0 and he played well.  He may have been a forward as a freshman though.[/q]
Sorry.  I meant to say either before he came to Cornell or perhaps as a freshman.  Ned did like mobile, active defensemen who could join in the offense.  His forwards were well-trained--under fear of God-knows-what--to swing back and cover for a rushing or pinching defenseman.

I emailed the guy who runs ontariodraft.com, curious if he had any more solid info about Matt Beca, and he said:

"Our guess is as good as yours to be honest, that
article was meant to be a fun pre-season projection,
and for the most part, has no inside track whatsoever
... it was an educated guess. One thing is for sure,
where ever Matt ends up, he'll be a dandy. Very solid
hockey player."

So it looks like that projection doesn't carry too much weight :)

Also, Evan Barlow's scoring line is now:
13-9-8-17, good for 2nd on the team in ppg.

Mike Kennedy's current line:
16-7-9-16

both this:

http://www.bchl.bc.ca/leagues/1413/graphics/college05.pdf

and this:

http://www.ajhl.ca/education/99-00_uscb.html

list a new recruit, currently playing with the Drayton Valley Thunder of the AJHL.

Taylor Davenport
DEFENCE
HT: 5'10" WT: 175
D.O.B.: Apr. 15,1985
HOMETOWN: Okotoks, AB

so far this year:
21-4-8-12-42

One of his teammates was just picked up by Princeton.

Good to see it's a defenseman.  At 5'10, he could very well be the Downs replacement.  
One has to think one or two of the five forwards listed for next year will not come until 2006.  If all five come and there are no more forwards added, then that would give the team 17 forwards.  That sure seems like a lot.

Does this mean we'll have two T. Davenport's (although one will be in net) and two C. Abbott's? Let confusion reign

Well, they're certainly not related - separated by 1000+ miles and only three months at birth.

Davenport has been added on Heisenberg's website.  Interesting to note that the date listed for his commitment is June 2nd, yet he was just added.

Updated recruit stats:

Evan Barlow is #3 in scoring on the Salmon Arm Silverbacks:
21-18-13-31

Matt Connors had a hat trick last weekend, I think this stat line is old:
18-6-8-14

Mike Kennedy
23-11-14-25

Taylor Davenport
30-5-10-15

Colin Greening is tough to find stats on, UCC doesn't have much of an athletics web presence. So it's hard to judge the recruiting class since the two 'A' prospects of the class were either injured for a large part of the season (Connors) or have no stats online (Greening).

from an older ushr.com bit about Greening:

"Upper Canada College star power forward Colin Greening, a 6’1” LW from St. John’s, Newfoundland, has reportedly been offered a full scholarship by RPI. Clarkson and Cornell are also in the picture…"

I think Greening could end up being a Moulson-type guy that comes in under the radar from a Junior B team.
Barlow appears to have the potential to be a big time scorer.

I agree that barlow has big scoring potential but Moulson haad over 100 points in junior B's and she was the league MVP. but yea i think he probly is going to be pretty good just not another Moulson.

[Q]billy bob Wrote:

 I agree that barlow has big scoring potential but Moulson haad over 100 points in junior B's and she was the league MVP. but yea i think he probly is going to be pretty good just not another Moulson.[/q]

Well then maybe Connors will be another Moulson because his numbers last year in Junior B were unbelievable at 78 goals and 51 assists in 70 games.

Ive seem video of connors from the salmon arm website and he looks like a vesce type player.

what does that mean?  Because I don't remember Connors being tiny.  Over six feet, right?  And almost 200 pounds?  Sounds very un-Vesce like.  Is he a faceoff guy?  Does he control the puck?  Is he a hitter with that weight?

Billy Bob was probably writing about Evan Barlow, who plays for the Salmon Arm Silverbacks.

I'll take another Moulson (and how many times have we said that before...), but projecting scoring between levels is notoriously hit or miss.  The alltime leading scorer in the Canadian juniors, beyond Gretzky, Bossy, or Lemieux, is the immortal Patrice Lefebvre.

i meant barlow. sorry

no worries, I should have spotted the mix up with the name and team and put things together but I didn't.

Evan Barlow had a good night the other night, 3 goals and 2 assists against the Vernon Vipers.

From the BCHL forum:
"(Salmon Arm) Evan Barlow (3 goals & 2 assists) was by far the Silverbacks best player, Barlow had tones of ice to use his speed and skill to create lots of great scoring chances."

Nothing new on Heisenberg's site, but since Cornell is still light on incoming blueliners, this guy would be the perfect addition to the defensive corps  :-)  :

Joe Finley-LD Sioux Falls (USHL) 6'7 226 6-29-88

put a camera on his helmet and Coach can get some great birds eye film to review!  Wow, that is tall.  Maybe he can play some powerforward and tight end?

[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:

 Nothing new on Heisenberg's site, but since Cornell is still light on incoming blueliners, this guy would be the perfect addition to the defensive corps    :

Joe Finley-LD Sioux Falls (USHL) 6'7 226 6-29-88



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 01/08/05 02:04PM by Greg Berge.[/q]

If that guy came to Cornell, it would probably give them the biggest blueline in North America, including NHL.

One thing is for sure, Cornell needs to add at least one more blueliner to the recruiting class.

He's from S. Dakota.  Power forward is out.  He can't jump.  ::rolleyes::

The freaky part is he's still just 16.  By the time he stops growing...  ::help::

...he can play center.  They don't need to jump.

ok, here we go:

http://www.nanaimoclippers.com/newsarticle.php?id=114


First year Nanaimo Clipper Defenseman Jared Seminoff has accepted an offer to attend Cornell University in the Fall of 2005. Jared has registered 5 goals and 16 assists in his innaugural season with the Clippers and will be joining current teammate Tyler Mugford in Cornell next season.

Seminoff was a teammate of Pokulok's last year on the Notre Dame Hounds.

from his nanaimo signing announcement:

Jared Seminoff. 6’ 195 lbs. A 1986 birth date defenseman from Nelson who played the past two seasons for the Notre Dame Hounds Jr. A team. Jared is a friend of Clipper d-man Chris Kestell and comes with strong attributes for an ’86 with over 100 games of Junior A under his belt. Jared is a ‘strong, solid defender with excellent offensive upside and will make an instant impact with his physical play’ says Coach Bestwick. ‘Jared is a first class person, a great athlete and is a prototypical Clipper’ who will instantly become a fan favourite. We look to Jared for his consistent play and decision making ability and will work with Jared to become more involved offensively.

Gotta love the Nanaimo pipeline.

my column this week talks about the need to sign at least one more blueliner.  i expect one more still.

I don't know how reliable this is, and it may be for '06 instead of '05...but someone on the USCHO thread about Wisconsin recruiting said this about Chad Morin:

"Are you sure we are still in the running for Morin? I was told Cornell had the inside track on him."

Morin with Davenport and now Seminoff would be an outstanding defensive group and it would give Cornell one of the top recruiting classes in the NCAA.

Looks like former Big Red assistant coach Jamie Russell plans on taking the "size" coveted by Coach Schafer out west to the Huskies.
Take a look at his recruits:

John Schwarz-RD (12/31/04) Ft.McMurray (AJHL)
6'3 210 -85

Michael Teslak-G (12/24/04) Prince George (BCHL)
6'3 205 -85

Justin St.Louis-RC (11/17/04) Trail (BCHL)
6'2 180 4-9-85

$Philip Axtell-RW (11/10/03) Cedar Rapids (USHL)
6'5 255 8-13-86

$Eli Vlaisavljevich-D (10/18/03) Lincoln (USHL)
5'11 176 11-3-85

Wow, their goalie, Teslak, is bigger than one the defender, Vlaisavljevich (and his name)...I don't think he'll be hitting people...unless Teslak pulls a Leeor Shtrom

[Q]atb9 Wrote:

 Wow, their goalie, Teslak, is bigger than one the defender, Vlaisavljevich (and his name)...I don't think he'll be hitting people...unless Teslak pulls a Leeor Shtrom[/q]
Sticks in my mind that Dryden was 6'4", 205.

Is Morin the huge guy we were talking about a week or two ago?

No, Morin is smaller blueliner in the National Development Program.  I think he is the youngest player on the U18 team although I am not totally sure about that.  Regardless, he is a highly-touted recruit.

Morin is listed as being 5'11" & 186. He's 16 (doesn't turn 17 until mid-April) and from Auburn, NY. Sounds like he'd be a great addition to the Big Red.

Can't get the link to work...

thanks for changing the subject title...certainly makes finding the right post easier...

So do we know if Morin would be 05 or 06?  It sounds like Ari is including him in 05 but man, he is young.

It does sound like he'd be in next year's class, but I don't know what his academic standing is. He will be 17 by the time the fall semester begins so it's possible he'll be ready this year.

Weirdly, Heisenberg just added a second defenseman to the recruit list:

Jared Seminoff-RD (1/10/05) Nanaimo (BCHL)
5'11 185 2-27-86
60-5-16-21-78
(58-2-10-12-103 2003 All-Rookie Team)

Yes, *another* Nanaimite.

[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:


Yes, *another* Nanaimite.[/q]

That'll make 6 (Hynes, Bitz, O'Byrne, Sawada, Mugford, Seminoff). Former Clippers: Hornby, LeNeveu.

Does Ithaca still get to use the name "Little Red"?  :-P

Greg,

Back on page one we were discussing him yesterday..the thread flipped to page 2 and the discussion shifted, so he sorta disappeared.

there's a link to the announcement from the clippers, and a couple bits of info about him.

does the order of players listed under the leagues sections of heisenberg's site represents his rankings?

[Q]bern Wrote:

 does the order of players listed under the leagues sections of heisenberg's site represents his rankings?[/q]

Yes, but take it with a grain or two of salt. I once asked him about this and he says that he attempts to rank the players but admits that he doesn't know that much about the western players.

[Q]ursaminor Wrote:
Yes, but take it with a grain or two of salt. I once asked him about this and he says that he attempts to rank the players but admits that he doesn't know that much about the western players.[/q]*insert joke about uncertainty here*

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

*insert joke about uncertainty here*
[/q]

Policeman: License and registration please.
Dr. Heisenberg: What seems to be the problem officer?
Policemen: Do you have any idea how fast you were going?
Dr. Heisenberg: No, but I know where I am....

[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:

 The freaky part is he's still just 16.  By the time he stops growing...   [/q]

Didn't David Robinson put on like 6 inches while at Annapolis?

[Q]jeh25 Wrote:

 [Q2]jmh30 Wrote:

*insert joke about uncertainty here*
[/Q]
Policeman: License and registration please.
Dr. Heisenberg: What seems to be the problem officer?
Policemen: Do you have any idea how fast you were going?
Dr. Heisenberg: No, but I know where I am....[/q]

One could also argue that because of Dr. Heisenberg's car being at speed, Doppler shift made the red light still appear yellow.

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 [Q2]jeh25 Wrote:

 [Q2]jmh30 Wrote:

*insert joke about uncertainty here*
[/Q]
Policeman: License and registration please.
Dr. Heisenberg: What seems to be the problem officer?
Policemen: Do you have any idea how fast you were going?
Dr. Heisenberg: No, but I know where I am....[/Q]
One could also argue that because of Dr. Heisenberg's car being at speed, Doppler shift made the red light still appear yellow. [/q]

Ummm. Wouldn't that mean he was doing like .11c?

Even CowbellGuy doesn't drive that fast....

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 [Q2]ursaminor Wrote:
Yes, but take it with a grain or two of salt. I once asked him about this and he says that he attempts to rank the players but admits that he doesn't know that much about the western players.[/Q]
*insert joke about uncertainty here*
[/q]

In case there's anyone on here who doesn't know, Chris is the grandson of *the* Heisenberg.  Such a shame - just think what Werner could've accomplished if he'd applied himself to sports...  

::stupid::

[q]Chris is the grandson of *the* Heisenberg[/q]
You're joking, right?  Cuz if you're not... well... that is SO beyond cool...

A hidden ball trick you'd never see on instant replay?

Greg,

He definitely is Werner's grandson. Chris's father is Jochen Heisenberg, a physics prof at UNH.

Here is a link to a Hockey-L message http://lists.maine.edu/cgi/wa?A2=ind0202&L=Hockey-L&P=R4645&I=-3 where Chris defended his grandfather to an earlier message http://lists.maine.edu/cgi/wa?A2=ind0202&L=Hockey-L&P=R4426&I=-3 .

[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:

 [Q2]Chris is the grandson of *the* Heisenberg[/Q]
You're joking, right?  Cuz if you're not... well... that is SO beyond cool...[/q]

Yeah - something that only someone with a cat named Kepler could truly appreciate!  Then again, my gf says that if she ever has a son she wants to name him Copernicus, so it could be worse...

"Among goaltenders, Ben Bishop, a 6-foot-5 goaltender from Texas who is currently uncommitted, is highest among college or college-bound players at No. 7. "

http://www.uscho.com/news/2005/01/14_009621.php

I just saw 6'5" and Texas and got interested...Since we're now looking for another goalie, anyone know anything about Ben Bishop?

[Q]atb9 Wrote:

 "Among goaltenders, Ben Bishop, a 6-foot-5 goaltender from Texas who is currently uncommitted, is highest among college or college-bound players at No. 7. "



I just saw 6'5" and Texas and got interested...Since we're now looking for another goalie, anyone know anything about Ben Bishop?[/q]

Looks like he's going to Maine...but might not if Howard stays

http://www.bangornews.com/news/templates/?a=104828&z=225

From the Bangor News article, it looks like USCHO missed the fact that he committed in early December.  Sorry for not fact checking sooner...

Dartmouth makes a huge signing today according to Heisenberg: KEVIN SWALLOW.
Don't forget, Grant Clitsome will be at Lynah with Clarkson on Friday night.

It doesn't matter if he's at Lynah on Friday if no one on his team can find him...

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:  Dartmouth makes a huge signing today according to Heisenberg: KEVIN SWALLOW. Don't forget, Grant Clitsome will be at Lynah with Clarkson on Friday night.[/q]

You had us looking up the name to be sure it wasn't a spoof. Actually both of them. They sound like actors in a really low-rent porn movie.

I thought it was usually more of a concern that people on the other team can't find him.

way over jmh30's head jersey!;-)

Well, he's never written a sex column...

You don't have to kiss up to jerks on the way up if you're not planning to be coming back down. They'll still plant stuff about you on the Page Six column.

[Q]The Rancor Wrote:
 way over jmh30's head jersey! [/q]Umm...  no, actually not.

I wouldn't worry about it, jmh30.  Not all of us missed your joke on the joke.  And I'm certain there wasn't a woman on eLF who missed the significance.  :-D

In the "Scouting Harvard" thread, someone said there was a defenseman, David Inman, on the USNTDP team who was considering Cornell, Harvard, & Yale.

the original post:
http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,44278,44876#msg-44876

According to Heisenberg's site, he just chose Yale.  I wonder if we're done with defensemen (and are just looking for another goalie), or if we'll add one more. I guess part of that depends on whether we're still in the Chad Morin sweepstakes, and whether he's headed to college next year or in '06.

i was bored to death last night and reviewed all the past info on the morin sweepstakes

supposedly he originally said BC, maine, wisconson, cornell and sucks were on his list, but as of early january he personally said the names of BC, BU, maine, UNH, and cornell, which in his own words was a "first class school with a great program close to home"...but it was too early for him to make a decision

it sounds like he is thinking about college next year and not '06, but really since that uscho post from the wisconson thread, the one stating cornell was rumored to have the inside track, there doesn't seem to be any new info...unless we have inside sources somewhere

I think they will add another defenseman for '05.

good article on Matt Connors in the Buffalo News today - my wife found it and showed it
to me just now. pretty sweet.

some nice tid bits

recruited by 38 schools DI, 6 foot 1 205lbs, accepted early decision, 40th ranked US player for THIS YEARS draft and 103rd North American

this one is great: "On the first day college coaches could contact potential recruit, Connors received phone calls from 19 Division I coaches,while Cornell's delegation sat in his Buffalo living room" - sweet!

basically he chose CU b/c he wants an Ivy education to fall back on, fell in love with Lynah and loved the atmosphere.

not sure if u all posted this info, but i thought it was cool.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050126/1019577.asp

Clearly it's hard to predict offensive production with recruits, but Evan Barlow has really picked up his production (he's got 31 goals and 23 assists in 37 games), and both Matt Connors and Colin Greening appear to be highly regarded and heavily recruited offensive players...next year's incoming class could add some serious firepower.

Yeah, big time recuiting class coming in.  Barlow, Greening, and Connors all seem to be top line talents and Mike Kennedy is also ranked for the draft.  With nobody graduating off the top two lines, Cornell will likely have one of the top five offenses in the NCAA.  It's been said before, but next year is THE year.

More reason to see the striking similarities between this season and 01-02...that season preceded the freshman year of Moulson, Hynes, the Abbotts...holy crap, next year might be awesome.

How does this look:

Moulson-Scott-Connors
Barlow/Greening-Pegoraro-Hynes
Abbott-Abbott-Sawada
Carefoot-Kennedy-Bitz


O'Byrne-Seminoff
Pokuluk-Gleed
Krantz-Davenport/Glover

They are getting pretty deep on the right side with Hynes, Sawada, Carefoot,  Bitz, and McCutcheon with Connors coming in as well.  The left side is also deep, but Abbott and Moulson will both be seniors.  I do think we'll see a similar type lineup as 02-03 when there was a freshman playing on every line.  Looking at the defense, I think even more that there will be one more freshman blueliner in the fall.

Evan Barlow added another goal and assist in tonight's 4-4 tie.

The "local minimum" of Schafer's classes is getting stronger over time.  Whether this represents the maturation of his recruiting network or the team's increasing reputation, it provides security for staying in the upper echelon.

One opinion of the 'A' level players brought in, by Fall:

'97 none
'98 Underhill, Kozier, Ladouceur
'99 McRae, McRae, Baby, Murray, Paolini (!)
'00 Vesce
'01 LeNeveu, Cook, Knoepfli
'02 Moulson, Hynes, Abbott, Abbott
'03 McKee, Bitz, O'Byrne
'04 Sawada, Pokulok, Scott

There have been three waves of Cornell strength since Mike took over.  The '96 and '97 titles were won by McCutcheon players responding to Mike's coaching.  The '02 and '03 teams were won by the class of '03.  The continuing strength is distributed evenly over all classes, and that's why there hasn't been a regularly-scheduled precipitous dropoff like '87, '93, or '98.

Your point is well-taken, but as far as "A" level players are concerned, I don't think I'd have Kozier, Matt McRae, Chris Abbott, or Bitz on that list.  Knopfli, Cook, and Ladouceur are  borderline.

That's why it's "one opinion." ;-)

I disagree very strongly about Kozier, though.  He was the poster child for "great player destroyed by injuries."  When he was a freshman, a lot of us were convinced he would be gone to the NHL by his junior year.

I thought Vinnie Auger was the poster child for "Great player destroyed by injuries".

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 I thought Vinnie Auger was the poster child for "Great player destroyed by injuries".[/q]
I'd agree with that.  Most creative Cornell forward in the Schafer era, in my opinion.

OK.  There are two.

[Q]pfibiger Wrote:

 Clearly it's hard to predict offensive production with recruits, but Evan Barlow has really picked up his production (he's got 31 goals and 23 assists in 37 games), and both Matt Connors and Colin Greening appear to be highly regarded and heavily recruited offensive players...next year's incoming class could add some serious firepower.[/q]

What other teams were interested in Greening?

pokulok - seminoff ( a given since they played together )
o'byrne - krantz
gleed - davenport

Not sure what side Davenport shoots on, but based on Heisenberg's listings, Seminoff, Krantz, O'Byrne, and Gleed are all RD while Pokuluk, Glover, and Salmela are LD.  Hopefully Davenport is a LD and I still think another defenseman is coming for next season.  Of note is that Morin is listed at LD.  Of course it is not absolutely necessary to play blueliners on their natural side as Krantz has played most of the season on LD I believe.

Chad Morin had a goal and a fighting major against canisuis last friday night.

Box score:

http://www.collegehockeystats.com/0405/boxes/mcnsu181.j21

the blurb about Greening from last August on ushr.com was

[Q]Upper Canada College star power forward Colin Greening, a 6’1” LW from St. John’s, Newfoundland, has reportedly been offered a full scholarship by RPI. Clarkson and Cornell are also in the picture[/Q]

There may have been other schools interested as well, but that was what little had been heard about him before he appeared on Heisenberg's site.

looks like Morin isn't headed to school until 2006. From this story on uscho.com:
http://www.uscho.com/news/2005/01/27_009753.php

[Q]Inman's Yale commitment leaves forward Phil Kessel, defenseman Chad Morin and goaltender Billy Blase as the only uncommitted players on the United States Under-18 program. Morin will remain in Ann Arbor for another year before going to school in the fall of 2006.[/Q]

15 penalties called on that one melee.  Talk about frus-trat-ed.