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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: jy3 on May 17, 2004, 11:13:39 PM

Title: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: jy3 on May 17, 2004, 11:13:39 PM
surprised this wasnt posted yet.
adam wrote a great article on the options the ecac has now that basically the ADs called for hockey independence.

http://www.uscho.com/news/2004/05/17_008514.php

test removed to help uscho as suggested by the author :)
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: Greg Berge on May 17, 2004, 11:23:47 PM
That's the best article Adam's written for USCHO.

Very good news -- now, strike while it's hot, complete our Glorious Revolution, and create an entirely new league.
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: adamw on May 18, 2004, 12:32:14 AM
Thanks all.  But could you just post the link.  In addition to helping USCHO by doing so, it appears you posted the article in preformatted text, which is blowing out the page.
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: jy3 on May 18, 2004, 12:52:33 AM
sure adam lemme change that now. i can adjust the pre too :)
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: jy3 on May 18, 2004, 12:55:28 AM
fixed
the link is there too. sometimes people complain when only the link is there without text :)
great article btw:-D
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: KeithK on May 18, 2004, 01:58:21 AM
[q]sometimes people complain when only the link is there without text [/q]I always wonder why.  It's HTML, you can't click a hyperlink?
Nice article.  I'd be thrilled if half of what you suggest comes to pass.
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: adamw on May 18, 2004, 01:58:26 AM
Thank you.  I didn't realize some people complain when there's only a link.  I realize the intentions are usually pure, but it's technically a copyright violation to post the full text.  Anyway - thanks again.
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: DeltaOne81 on May 18, 2004, 03:46:17 AM
People complain when there's not text when it's a site you have to register at... NY Times, Washington Post, Wall St Journal. Yeah, that's technically copyright, but I don't think forums have ever been gone after for it.

For for an article for USCHO, it's not necessary :-).
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: jtwcornell91 on May 18, 2004, 08:06:49 AM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 People complain when there's not text when it's a site you have to register at... NY Times, Washington Post, Wall St Journal. Yeah, that's technically copyright, but I don't think forums have ever been gone after for it.[/q]

There's a third option, which has the advantage of being "technically" legal, which is to paraphrase the article rather than copying the whole thing.

Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: Tom Pasniewski 98 on May 18, 2004, 08:45:24 AM
I feel a discussion on copyright law coming on.  Perhaps we need a 'Paraphrase This Message' button just like 'Quote this message'.  It would then proceed to leave in only every fourth word or something like that.  Are people who take facts and analyze them on here or who take facts and add opinions writing material that could be copyright protected if they wanted it to be.

I would suspect, without first-hand knowledge, that USCHO would like to keep track of page hits for overall interest in a site, interest in a specific month (important in the slower season even if there is no offseason for USCHO) and interest in a specific author and posting the whole article would take away some of those hits from people who otherwise support the site and the author 12 months a year.
Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: jtwcornell91 on May 18, 2004, 09:04:16 AM
[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:
I would suspect, without first-hand knowledge, that USCHO would like to keep track of page hits for overall interest in a site, interest in a specific month (important in the slower season even if there is no offseason for USCHO) and interest in a specific author and posting the whole article would take away some of those hits from people who otherwise support the site and the author 12 months a year.[/q]

Not to mention advertizing.  There is no dead tree edition of USCHO (okay, there's a magazine, but that's not what's keeping them afloat), so ads are the only place they get money from, and if people copy their articles wholesale, those who read them don't see the ads that paid for the article in the first place.

Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: billhoward on May 18, 2004, 09:30:49 AM
Nice piece. More to the point than some of the other stuff on USCHO (all writers; no one in particular) or, say, the discourse that ran in the Schenectady paper recently that in 20 paragraphs essentially said three our four schools are mulling what they'll do and the local guy on the hockey committee is quoted as saying they'll give it all thoughtful consideration.

That's a problem when a newspaper doesn't have someone assigned full time to college hockey. In fact, I don't think anyone has that, not even the Boston Globe.

That's what makes the Web all the more valuable - readership doesn't have to be limited to one paper's geographic area.

Title: Re: ECAC Mulling Options on uscho
Post by: jy3 on May 18, 2004, 08:03:14 PM
yeah but i didnt have time to paraphrase

anyway, check out the link if u havent :)