Anyone know if next year's schedule has been established yet? If I recall correctly, we should be playing two games at BU (in the old rink) and the Everblades will be stacked (Maine, St. Cloud and Boston College) - so our out of conference schedule should be very strong.
Can't wait 'till next year.
See http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,28299
cool, but I think I was asking if the OOC? were filled in yet ...
I heard two games at Mich State next year, to be reciprocated by Mich State travelling for two games at Lynah.
[Q]CUAround Wrote:
I heard two games at Mich State next year, to be reciprocated by Mich State travelling for two games at Lynah. [/Q]
If that's true, that's an excellent move. Michigan State is a great program with a lot of history and has made ten of the last eleven NCAA tournaments. It should be a great series, both years.
[Q]Big Red Colonel Wrote:
Anyone know if next year's schedule has been established yet? If I recall correctly, we should be playing two games at BU (in the old rink) and the Everblades will be stacked (Maine, St. Cloud and Boston College) - so our out of conference schedule should be very strong.
Can't wait 'till next year.
[/Q]
04-05 OOC schedules are starting to be posted on the following thread at USCHO:
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?s=9c3bceffe798cfeaf0d436f5a615090c&threadid=35556
I've plowed through this looking for Cornell games on other teams' schedules without luck, although there is some speculation that BU may substitute a series with Colorado College for the Cornell set. (Based on recent history, I suppose this makes sense for them. If they're going to get beaten, it probably hurts their PWR less if this is at the hands of a WCHA team.) Anyhow, following this thread may be the quickest way to get this information, even if it is a little labor-intensive.
[Q]Will Wrote:
If that's true, that's an excellent move. Michigan State is a great program with a lot of history and has made ten of the last eleven NCAA tournaments. It should be a great series, both years. [/Q]
Heads up to the bandies: Start learning "The Victors" now.
[Q]ninian '72 Wrote:Heads up to the bandies: Start learning "The Victors" now.
[/Q]Didn't they already learn it for the Buckeyes?
[Q]Didn't they already learn it for the Buckeyes?[/Q]
Yes, it was also the same day OSU lost to Michigan in football, a double spit in the face. Too bad they got the last laugh that night...
[Q]ninian '72 Wrote:
[Q2]Will Wrote:
If that's true, that's an excellent move. Michigan State is a great program with a lot of history and has made ten of the last eleven NCAA tournaments. It should be a great series, both years. [/Q]
Heads up to the bandies: Start learning "The Victors" now.
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 04/02/04 10:41AM by ninian '72.[/q]
After how many times we heard it last April, I'm about as excited to hear that song again as I am to see the NCAA commercials.
according to the tenative schedule, looks like army and sacred heart to open up the regular season
[Q]chris '06 Wrote:
according to the tenative schedule, looks like army and sacred heart to open up the regular season[/q]
Goody. That will help Cornell's SOS.
It just makes the Everblades that much more important to next year's at large chances.
Not exactly what I was hoping for, but oh well.
Is this "tentative schedule" posted anywhere? And are those games home or away?
It is certainly a good opportunity to improve Cornell's play against the MAAC/Atlantic Hockey conference. I think 1-1-2 is their all time record (win over Quinnipiac, loss to Sacred Heart, Ties with Quinnipiac and Mercyhurst) but I might be forgetting a game or two.
[Q]chris '06 Wrote:
according to the tenative schedule, looks like army and sacred heart to open up the regular season[/q]
I trust Sacred Heart is a home game not away. Otherwise we'd have to leave for the game now and start asking directions. Not to be an old school snob, but Yale has been around long enough to know where it's located; SH's first generation of trees are only now fully grown.
You have to really *dig* around their sports site to find out where the school is located if you come in or Google in via the SH sports home page. In one place it says the Bishop of Bridgeport founded SH (okay, but it's not in Bridgeport, but that at least tips you off to Connecticut) ... another place says it's a suburban campus (well, yeah, that's all Connecticut, plus Hartford and Bridgeport) ... another place tells you about its satellite campuses but not the location of the main campus. So after getting sidetracked to the SH Butt Print Sports Shorts page (it's the school nickname printed on the back, not, ah, something the cheerleaders did to raise money) it's in Fairfield. (OK, if you go to sacredheart.edu directly it's at the bottom.)
Not to rag on SH, because there are a lot of blemished Web sites out there. Like the ECAC, the NCAA (try its hockey or lacrosse archives). And they all use way-too-small fonts. Microsoft promises that will be fixed (users can scale up fonts w/o messing up dialog boxes) with its Longhorn release of 2006. Actually, they've stopped saying 2006, which is never a good indicator.
BH
And once again I find myself wasting time here when I should just do useful work and wait six months for the season to start.
Don't hate on Fairfield. That's where I'm from.
Yep, can't miss the blue sign on 95 in Fairfield with all of Sacred Heart's sports teams, um, accomplishments. Connecticut likes to do that. Quinnipiac in Hamden on 91 and well, I guess they'll have to amend UConn's on 84 after tonight or wait till tomorrow night to see how the women do.
Connecticut: The state that ________ fans have to drive through after losing to the __________. So as not to be biased, I'll leave it at insert Red Sox or Yankees into either blank.
[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:
Yep, can't miss the blue sign on 95 in Fairfield with all of Sacred Heart's sports teams, um, accomplishments. Connecticut likes to do that. Quinnipiac in Hamden on 91 and well, I guess they'll have to amend UConn's on 84 after tonight or wait till tomorrow night to see how the women do. Connecticut: The state that ________ fans have to drive through after losing to the __________. So as not to be biased, I'll leave it at insert Red Sox or Yankees into either blank.[/q]
Better to spend the money on that than "Highway workers -- Give 'em a break" or "Drive with caution." And more likely than, "Hartford -- Home of the first civic center with a sunroof."
Better still to keep a bunch of signs around reading, "I-95 bridge out - again." Sheesh. Although NJ should talk -- we had a bridge over I-78 near Newark Airport burn down in the 1990s. Typical Jersey - a garbage dump under the bridge caught fire. Most of NJ's highway sign money is going toward creating Highway Safety Zone areas where speedings are doubled. It would be cheaper to post where the fines aren't doubled.
[q]Connecticut: The state that ________ fans have to drive through after losing to the __________.[/q]
It could also be the state some Cornell fans have to drive through after losing to UHN (in Worcester).
Not that I'm bitter or anything ::nut::
JH
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
And they all use way-too-small fonts. Microsoft promises that will be fixed (users can scale up fonts w/o messing up dialog boxes) with its Longhorn release of 2006.[/q]
Ah, but there's technology for this right now. Use a lower resolution! =P
i saw the schedule when i was meeting with gene nighman for some information on the line
those games appeared to be the first regular season home games, preceded by the red/white and exhibition
those games are followed by brown/harvard and then away at mich st and dartmouth/vermont
that's all i can remember, although he said they were looking for possibly one more OOC
[q]those games are followed by brown/harvard and then away at mich st and dartmouth/vermont
that's all i can remember, although he said they were looking for possibly one more OOC[/q]
2 vs. MAAC, 2 in FL, and 2 @ MSU, plus 22 league games would leave one more spot.
I'd be real disappointed if we are going to play Army and Sacred Heart and not play a Hockey East team or another pair with a CCHA team. It wouldn't be such a big deal if we played the same number of games that schools outside of the Ivy League play (though I happen to believe nobody should begin playing until November 1st), but given our limited schedule and the current doormat status of the ECAC I'm not so sure this is a good idea. There's no guarantee we'd win these games either - if we as fans are not thrilled about it, why would we expect the team to be thrilled about it? No matter how well the team prepares I simply can't see them playing with the same energy level against Sacred Heart as they would against UNH.
Now, if we were in some sort of preseason tournament with these teams included among some others I would not be upset at all; but that will never happen.
I'll stop whining now.
On a brighter note, is anyone else planning on playing hookey on Thursday so they can watch the WCHA championship game?
Cheers,
Mike
We'll get some good ones in Florida. With BC, St. Cloud, and Maine in Florida, those games will likely make or break our SOS.
How we do in Florida technically has no effect on our SoS or how RPI or PWR measure it. It will affect our final ranking though :-D
[Q]KeithK Wrote:
How we do in Florida technically has no effect on our SoS or how RPI or PWR measure it. It will affect our final ranking though [/q]
Or is it that Florida (Everblades) tournament games count on RPI because they're real games ... with the exception of that if the game ends in a tie after one OT aqnd the winner is determined by a shootout, it goes down in the books as a tie for both teams in RPI rankings. Which means Cornell was fortunate to have won in OT not in the shootout this past year.
::laugh:: That's funny - the second WCHA championship game featuring all different teams. Do you mean in person or on tv? If you mean in person, then no. If you mean on tv, then no :-P But I'll be at the evening game and hopefully the championship game if some nice fan from the evening losing team sells me their ticket for cheap.
Have fun at the games. I'll be playing hookey to watch at home. It was cool being in Albany for the regionals two weeks ago - I heard about a dozen or so Cornell fans shout "Red!" during the anthem. I'd love to hear your thoughts on Cornell fan presence as well as the overall atmosphere when you get back.
Cheers,
Mike
well, it will be an adventureous road trip.. just be careful going over the bridges on I-95.
For those who would normally take 95: might I suggest taking 91-691-84 or cutting over to rt. 15 (Merritt Pkwy).... =/
[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:
I guess they'll have to amend UConn's on 84 after tonight or wait till tomorrow night to see how the women do. [/q]
:D
UCONN: 2 teams, 2 national champions. History was made tonight. :D
Don't underestimate the impact of RPI overrating teams that rack up good records against weak schedules. Holy Cross helped Maine's SOS more (per game) than any opponent besides BC and Minnesota:
http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?2004/current/crit.Me
Don't take the Merritt! When there's an accident on 95, the Merritt is a parking lot. I can only imagine what it's like now.
JH
Actually I was on 95 south two days after the bridge 'burned' - traveling between Boston and the Philly area - with all the warning signs they had up to avoid the area, I figured no one would be on 95 and I was right and sailed through the detour in Bridgeport in about 10 minutes. The rest area in Fairfield had 12 bored McDonald's workers hanging around just hoping to serve somebody. By the next night, northbound was already reopened. Yeah, it was a quick trip to Philly. I'll take Route 15 aka the Merritt in portions, over battling oil tankers for lane positioning any day on 95. Though I know it's a mess during rush hours.
Yep, congrats to UConn - basketball is all they have in Storrs. Maybe the men will get the northbound rest area dedicated after them and the women the southbound rest area. Personally Route 320 between I-84 (exit 71) and Storrs is a favorite of mine - once you get past the mega truck stop - it's all hills, curves, fog, deer - best driven in the middle of the night if you know the road - take your foot off the brake and see how airborne you can get on those hills.
So Middlebury wins the DIII men's and women's hockey titles. UConn wins men's and women's DI basketball titles, Minnesota has the DI women's title - who would have thought it would be the Minnesota men's hockey team that would not complete the triple double. Though I guess Minnesota-Duluth is in the same state.
I'm not sure if this was posted elsewhere, but the Everblades tourney games will be December 28 and 29
[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:
Yep, congrats to UConn - basketball is all they have in Storrs. [/q]
My brother currently attends UCONN... his away message two nights ago was: "There are 2004 miles between Storrs and San Antonio. Coincidence? I think not." ::laugh::
On the way back from New Haven last night, rather than the electronic signs giving out traffic information, they all congratulated UCONN :)
OK, somebody had to say it:
The Oka-Force was with them
(Did I just sleep through the crowd views and miss it, or was no one from UConn geeky and creative enough to make that sign? BTW, please don't tell my daughter that I was.):-P
From my [limited] experience with UCONN games, I've learned 3 "cheers" that they do:
1. U-C-O-N-N (making the letters with their arms, reminiscent of the YMCA dance), UCONN! UCONN! UCONN!!
2. When the other team commits a foul, point to the opposing player: You! You! You! You! Awwwwww YOU!
3. When a Husky is attempting a foul shot, arms up in the air... if it goes in, arms down accompanied by "WHOOSH!"
...based on that, I wouldn't be surprised if no one made the sign. *shrug*
Regardless of what one thinks about their fans' creativity, the teams certainly don't lack for fan support.
Oh, definitely! :)
Tickets to games at the Civic Center are hard to come by... not to mention ones for games at Gampel. At least any given bar will be showing Husky games :)
[Q]dss28 Wrote:
Oh, definitely!
Tickets to games at the Civic Center are hard to come by... not to mention ones for games at Gampel. At least any given bar will be showing Husky games [/q]
I never actually attended any of their games, but in my 20+ years in CT I became a fan. It was great when the local channels carried their games. I miss it now that I'm in MA. UConn basketball is only on when it's a nationally-televised game or if they're playing someone like BC. Damn, Boston may consider themselves a great sports town, but I'm here stuck with no UConn and watching the likes of the friggin' Sox instead of the Yankees. And tonight: GO HABS!
Well it's real easy to root for the two winningest franchises in sports history. ;-)
Your home town pride really shows through :-P
I wish I didn't care about Boston sports teams but I do - so much heartache.
Connecticut is what separates me and the rest of my family. Sometimes the state's too big and sometimes the state's too small if you know what I mean. Kind of sad when the tallest building the state of Conn. is attached to a casino - UConn play any basketball at Mohegan Sun this year?
Tomorrow's BC-Maine tickets are going for six times what Denver-Duluth tickets are going for. E-A-G-L-E-S. EAGLES! EAGLES! EAGLES! - led by the guy in the Superman outfit. Whatever - as long as they put some past Jimmy boy
[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:
Well it's real easy to root for the two winningest franchises in sports history.
Your home town pride really shows through
I wish I didn't care about Boston sports teams but I do - so much heartache.
[/q]
Them's fightin' words, pardner. My hometown pride is exactly why I root for the Yankees. Grew up in NY and have been a fan since I was 4. I'd sooner die than root for the Sox. I hope my great great grandchildren are long dead before a WS crown ever comes to Boston.
As for the Canadiens, blame Ken Dryden. I never followed pro hockey until I went to Cornell. I missed Ken by a couple years, but all the news we ever got about the pros was about Ken in Montreal. So the Habs became the adopted hometown team. I'd say being loyal for 30+ years, even through the bad times, isn't a bad record. Besides, I never could stomach the Rangers or the Slimelanders (that "dynasty" that endured by the grace of one funny bounce of the puck).
May the Babes, Buckies, Buckners, and Boonies torment you forever.
[Q]CUlater 89 Wrote:
Regardless of what one thinks about their fans' creativity, the teams certainly don't lack for fan support.[/q]And what they lack in creativity, they more than make up for in the ever-elusive constant VOLUME. I've never been to Storrs, but I've been to MSG a few times to see the Huskies play St. John's. SJU rarely sells out the Garden when they aren't a top 20 team (Alumni Hall is almost always full), but Connecticut fans pack the house.
It isn't like Lynah East at the Garden, but it is pretty damn close.
[Q]Big Red Colonel Wrote:
cool, but I think I was asking if the OOC? were filled in yet ...[/q]
More chatter at uscho:
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?s=4ff06e30915dc1733d924de32fb1e1fc&threadid=35556&perpage=15&pagenumber=2
Again mentions Red traveling to East Lansing for two, instead of a BU matchup. Also, discusses Cornell participating in Niagara tournament with Niagara, Princeton, Yale. Games split between Rochester and Buffalo.
I don't see us leaving florida anytime soon ... but that could just be me:-)
[Q]
Again mentions Red traveling to East Lansing for two, instead of a BU matchup. Also, discusses Cornell participating in Niagara tournament with Niagara, Princeton, Yale. Games split between Rochester and Buffalo.
[/q]
A Niagara tournament the last week of November would not conflict with an Everblades tournament the last week of December. But if the Niagara tournament is Niagara, Princeton, Yale, and Cornell, it's not going to help Cornell's power ranking. Two opponents are in our conference, the third is a hockey powerhouse in waiting (and waiting? And is this in some way exempt from the Ivy limit of total games to be played?
It will not be expensive; certainly the team bus can make it up and back on one tank of fuel. Is there any publicity in Ontario that a Niagara tournament generates that would help recruiting?
guess that's what i get for not looking into what is when ... ::nut::
A tournament with Yale and Princeton? Ewwwwwwwwww. That would be horrible. I don't mind playing a game or maybe two against CHA or AHA teams. But games against the ECAC are to be avoided at all costs. I'd say that even if the league had the RPI of the WCHA.
Princeton may have to go to the local high school to recruit players with some defections to other schools and well, taking the Princeton coaching job is akin to, I don't know what, but suffice it to say, Princeton will be last in the preseason polls because for UVM, it just doesn't matter. Adam has some commentary on the Princeton situation in his column this week. With conversations with people this past weekend it doesn't look like Moore from Colgate is going to take the Princeton job - not that I know if he's even being considered. Any rumors over on the USCHO boards? Anybody over there even care about Princeton?
[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:
Any rumors over on the USCHO boards? Anybody over there even care about Princeton?[/q]
Maybe we can start our own rumor. I heard Princeton is dropping Division I hockey, and the ECAC will be 10 teams in the 05-06 season.
Can anyone tell me when Cornell will release their official schedule?
So that would be grade and hockey deflation :-P
Actually the rumor isn't true but all of you wannabes have one more day to apply:
(clearly that's why they're not winning - it's less than a 40-hour a week job and I thought there were 40-hour weekends involved and work within the framework of the ECAC - hmmm...framework is an interesting choice of words)
http://jobs.princeton.edu/openjobs/pu_jobdesc.asp?ReqNo=04-0003479
Requisition No. 04-0003479
Head Coach-Men's Ice Hockey
Department: Athletics
Location: Main Campus
Employment Status: Full-Time
Hours per week: 36.25
Work Days: Monday - Friday
Grade: ADC020
Overtime Eligible: No
Date Opened: March 11, 2004
Responsibilities
Princeton University's Department of Athletics announces an opening for a full-time head coach of men's hockey. Responsibilities include all aspects of coaching, program planning, game management, team organization, recruiting, fund raising and alumni relations.
Requirements
The position requires a bachelor's degree or advanced degree and a successful background in coaching hockey, preferably with several years of playing experience at the collegiate and/or professional level. Demonstrated leadership skills and the ability to manage team dynamics also are required. The coach must be able to work and communicate with students, faculty, staff, administration and alumni, as well as work within the framework of Princeton University, Ivy League, ECAC and NCAA policies and procedures. CPR, AED, and first aid certification is required subsequent to the date of hire.
Applications must be received before April 16, 2004.
Before we all go applying...two questions:
What's AED? (next to CPR)
What's the salary?
Maybe Mazzoleni should apply. That way he wouldn't have to worry about losing to Princeton anymore...
Has anyone called the hockey office and asked if there's a (tentative) schedule available and if not yet, when?
[Q]What's AED? (next to CPR)[/Q]
Automated external defibrillation
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Has anyone called the hockey office and asked if there's a (tentative) schedule available and if not yet, when? [/q]
Yes, I emailed Sue about this. As soon as I hear back I'll post it.
[Q]Chris 02 Wrote:
What's AED? (next to CPR)[/q]
I think it stands for Bronze Swimming Certificate, Silver Swimming Certificate.
:-D
Well if you missed the chance to apply for the men's hockey opening, the men's basketball team is now in need of a head coach too:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1786108
::screwy::
Edit: That would be Princeton for anyone taking a very quick glance.
This has been the worst guarded secret in DC for the last month. Everybody expected JT3 to come to Georgetown. Hopefully he can turn the Hoyas around -- they've been atrocious.
ahh ... georgetown ... has been doing right well for themselves. they can stay right where they are thanks :-P
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Is there any publicity in Ontario that a Niagara tournament generates that would help recruiting? [/q]
I went out for the Punch Imlach last year, (UNH, Lowell, Niagara, Canisus), the only reason it recieved a mention on the news in Buffalo was because Niagara beat UNH the second day, total attendence for each game was 250-300 (and that may be high balling it).
oooh a niagara tourney would rock since i am moving to buffalo. all games in buff none in rochester please :)
[Q]jy3 Wrote:
all games in buff...please[/q]
Uh...I'm not touching that one with a twenty foot pole. :-P
LOL
that was a great use of shortened language huh? ::help:: ::nut::
So, do we have any confirmed dates and opponents for the NC games now?
Check the following link at uscho for the 04-05 schedule. Looks complete, except for Thanksgiving weekend.
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?gender=m&season=20042005&team=28
[Q]ninian '72 Wrote:
Check the following link at uscho for the 04-05 schedule. Looks complete, except for Thanksgiving weekend.
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?gender=m&season=20042005&team=28[/q]
28 games listed. Just one to add.
That schedule would seem to be pretty accurate based on reports. Also, with 28 games already in there, that would mean a first-round game against Yale or Princeton over Thanksgiving, exempt from the 29-game limit rule and allow Cornell a 30-game regular season schedule.
Or maybe Al's right - I've found he often is.;-)
The one benefit I can see to having Army on our schedule is that I might finally get to use the "Warm up the tank" cheer. :-D
Seems like either USCHO is down or filtering is affecting my connection. If someone has a copy of the schedule, might they mind posting it here? Thanks.
Here's a simple copy and paste. I'll leave it to someone else to better format the list.
Fri 10/29/2004 Army (nc) 7:00 ET
Sat 10/30/2004 Sacred Heart (nc) 7:00 ET
Fri 11/05/2004 Harvard 7:00 ET
Sat 11/06/2004 Brown 7:00 ET
Fri 11/12/2004 @ Michigan State (nc) 7:05 ET
Sun 11/14/2004 @ Michigan State (nc) 2:05 ET
Fri 11/19/2004 @ Vermont 7:00 ET
Sat 11/20/2004 @ Dartmouth 7:00 ET
Fri 12/03/2004 Yale 7:00 ET
Sat 12/04/2004 Princeton 7:00 ET
Tue 12/28/2004 vs SCSU/BC/Maine (nc) (1)
Wed 12/29/2004 vs SCSU/BC/Maine (nc) (1)
Fri 01/07/2005 @ Brown 7:00 ET
Sat 01/08/2005 @ Harvard 7:00 ET
Fri 01/14/2005 @ Union 7:00 ET
Sat 01/15/2005 @ Rensselaer 7:00 ET
Fri 01/21/2005 Dartmouth 7:00 ET
Sat 01/22/2005 Vermont 7:00 ET
Fri 01/28/2005 Clarkson 7:00 ET
Sat 01/29/2005 St. Lawrence 7:00 ET
Fri 02/04/2005 @ Colgate 7:00 ET
Sat 02/05/2005 Colgate 7:00 ET
Fri 02/11/2005 @ Princeton 7:00 ET
Sat 02/12/2005 @ Yale 7:00 ET
Fri 02/18/2005 Rensselaer 7:00 ET
Sat 02/19/2005 Union 7:00 ET
Fri 02/25/2005 @ St. Lawrence 7:00 ET
Sat 02/26/2005 @ Clarkson 7:00 ET
(1) - Everblades Classic (Estero, FL)
That looks like a good schedule. Hosting Army and Sacred Heart the first weekend is good, because it will give the team some time to get in synch before playing Harvard, Brown and then the a tough road weekend against Michigan State. The 3 other teams in the Everblades are all solid and will help the strength of schedule. We're playing all road games during semester break which is also good. I only wish we had a couple NC home games against a team from a power conference.
[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:
That schedule would seem to be pretty accurate based on reports. Also, with 28 games already in there, that would mean a first-round game against Yale or Princeton over Thanksgiving, exempt from the 29-game limit rule and allow Cornell a 30-game regular season schedule.[/q]
How would a game against Yale or Princeton be exempt from the 29 game limit? The only exemption I ever remember seeing us take is the foreign tour exemption. I didn't think the Ivies allowed any exceptions to their limit.
So is the team going to go to the MSU/Wisconsin football game on the off day? It may be tough to get a hotel around east lansing that weekend...
Crazy Big Ten football throwing other sports out of whack.
Maybe MSU could be persuaded to set up their outdoor rink in Spartan Stadium :-D :
http://www.detnews.com/2001/msu/0110/09/d11-312582.htm
[Q]Chris '03 wrote:
It may be tough to get a hotel around east lansing that weekend... [/Q]
A quick search turned up a $71 AAA rate at the Marriott TownPlace Suites in East Lansing. Book now before it's too late.
http://marriott.com/property/propertyPage.mi?marshaCode=LANTS
Note: the "LANTS" needs to be part of the link above, but doesn't seem to be treated as such.
since my atlas is at home, anyone know off hand how far it is from lafayette IN to east lansing michigan?
would be nice to see 3, maybe 4 cornell games this year. i'll be at the everblades tourney again with my nephew, who btw, apparently says "sieve, sieve, sieve" when his red table hockey team (cornell) scores against the blue team.
thanks,
Rita
[Q]Rita Monde Wrote:
since my atlas is at home, anyone know off hand how far it is from lafayette IN to east lansing michigan?
[/q]
Who needs Atlases when you have the internet? According to Mapquest it's 278 miles or 4:30 driving time (prob closer to 4 hours then).
Cut and pasted from my original in Nov..
The only "holes" are presumed exibition weekend of 10/22-23, Red/White the weekend before, and one last game over Thanksgiving (I'm voting for Al on that one.)
All at 7:00 except Everblades and the Mich St as listed
The 2004-2005 CU Schedule
Fri Oct 22,04 Ex?
Sat Oct 23,04 Ex?
Fri Oct 29,04 Army
Sat Oct 30,04 Sacred Heart
Fri Nov 5,04 Harvard
Sat Nov 5,04 Brown
Fri Nov 12,04 @Mich St 7:05
Sun Nov 13,04 @Mich St 2:05
Fri Nov 19,04 @Vermont
Sat Nov 20,04 @Dartmouth
Sat Nov 27,04 OOC?
Fri Dec 3,04 Yale
Sat Dec 4,04 Princeton
Tue Dec 28,04 Everblades vs SCSU/BC/Maine
Wed Dec 29,04 Everblades vs SCSU/BC/Maine
Fri Jan 7,05 @Brown
Sat Jan 8,05 @Harvard
Fri Jan 14,05 @Union
Sat Jan 15,05 @RPI
Fri Jan 21,05 Dartmouth
Sat Jan 22,05 Vermont
Fri Jan 28,05 Clarkson
Sat Jan 29,05 St. Lawrence
Fri Feb 4,05 @Colgate
Sat Feb 5,05 Colgate
Fri Feb 11,05 @Princeton
Sat Feb 12,05 @Yale
Fri Feb 18,05 RPI
Sat Feb 19,05 Union
Fri Feb 25,05 @St. Lawrence
Sat Feb 26,05 @Clarkson
Fri Mar 4,05 ECAC
Sat Mar 5,05 ECAC
Fri Mar 11,05 ECAC
Sat Mar 12,05 ECAC
Fri Mar 18,05 ECAC
Sat Mar 19,05 ECAC
Fri Mar 25,05 NCAA
Sun Mar 27,05 NCAA
Thur Apr 7,05 NCAA
Sat Apr 9,05 NCAA
OOC = Out of Conference
Here's hoping I did it right.
Are the Michigan State games a Friday/Sunday affair? Is that to avoid some potential conflict with a Saturday night football game?
Maybe we can get a single game with another team from Hockey East over Thanksgiving as a SOS booster.
If it is to be a Hockey East team, the only team it can be is UMass-Lowell.
On Saturday, 11/27/04:
Boston College is playing Northeastern
Boston University is out at Colorado College
Maine is playing at Dartmouth
Massachusetts is out in Denver
And the 2nd Annual Dunkin Donuts Coffee Pot moves to Thanksgiving Weekend and will have Providence and Merrimack participating.
That leaves only Lowell.
You forgot UNH is at Vermont. If we do schedule a Thanksgiving weekend game, it will likely be another AH team a la Mercyhurst this past year. Here is the composite schedule of all games that USCHO has listed thus far for Thanksgiving weekend (let's hope it formats correctly):
11/26/04 Robert Morris at Rensselaer nc 7:00 ET Rensselaer/HSBC Holiday Hockey Tournament (Troy, NY)
11/26/04 Sacred Heart vs Air Force nc 4:00 ET Rensselaer/HSBC Holiday Hockey Tournament (Troy, NY)
11/26/04 Brown at Clarkson ec 7:00 ET
11/26/04 Merrimack vs Union nc Dunkin' Donuts Coffee Pot (Providence, RI)
11/26/04 Holy Cross vs Providence nc Dunkin' Donuts Coffee Pot (Providence, RI)
11/26/04 Harvard at St. Lawrence ec 7:00 ET
11/26/04 North Dakota at Michigan Tech wc 7:05 ET
11/26/04 Minnesota-Duluth at St. Cloud State wc 7:05 CT
11/26/04 Mercyhurst at Colgate nc 7:00 ET
11/26/04 Boston University at Denver nc 7:35 MT
11/26/04 Massachusetts at Colorado College nc 7:35 MT
11/26/04 Lake Superior at Northern Michigan cc 7:35 ET
11/27/04 Air Force/SHU at Rensselaer nc 4:00/7:00 ET Rensselaer/HSBC Holiday Hockey Tournament (Troy, NY)
11/27/04 Robert Morris/RPI vs Air Force nc 4:00/7:00 ET Rensselaer/HSBC Holiday Hockey Tournament (Troy, NY)
11/27/04 Robert Morris/RPI vs Sacred Heart nc 4:00/7:00 ET Rensselaer/HSBC Holiday Hockey Tournament (Troy, NY)
11/27/04 Air Force/SHU vs Robert Morris nc 4:00/7:00 ET Rensselaer/HSBC Holiday Hockey Tournament (Troy, NY)
11/27/04 Harvard at Clarkson ec 7:00 ET
11/27/04 Holy Cross/Prov vs Union nc Dunkin' Donuts Coffee Pot (Providence, RI)
11/27/04 Holy Cross/Prov vs Merrimack nc Dunkin' Donuts Coffee Pot (Providence, RI)
11/27/04 Union/Merrimack vs Holy Cross nc Dunkin' Donuts Coffee Pot (Providence, RI)
11/27/04 Union/Merrimack vs Providence nc Dunkin' Donuts Coffee Pot (Providence, RI)
11/27/04 Maine at Dartmouth nc 7:00 ET
11/27/04 New Hampshire at Vermont nc 7:00 ET
11/27/04 Brown at St. Lawrence ec 7:00 ET
11/27/04 North Dakota at Michigan Tech wc 7:05 ET
11/27/04 Minnesota-Duluth at St. Cloud State wc 7:05 CT
11/27/04 Mercyhurst at Colgate nc 7:00 ET
11/27/04 Massachusetts at Denver nc 7:05 MT
11/27/04 Boston University at Colorado College nc 7:05 MT
11/27/04 Northern Michigan at Lake Superior cc 7:05 ET
11/27/04 Boston College at Northeastern he 7:00 ET
I noted UNH in my notes and then forgot to include them. I forget UNH exists sometimes :) Anyway, looks like Sacred Heart, Robert Morris and Mercyhurst are taken. Could be Quinnipiac or Holy Cross but didn't someone mention somewhere and of course I'm too lazy to look it up that we were possibly playing in a Yale, Princeton, Niagara tournament over Thanksgiving and since none of those teams are listed as playing over Thanksgiving, this is still possible?
Check the following link at uscho for chatter about this tournament:
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35556&perpage=15&pagenumber=5
Yep, that's what I thought.
If this is the schedule, Cornell's challenge is pretty clear: to make the NCAAs it will have to win the ECACs (always possible) or get there based on RPI and quality wins. You can see from the schedule the opportunity for quality wins outside the ECAC amounts to about four: the two Michigan State games awful early in the season, and the two Everblades classic games with SCSU, Maine, and BC. Army and Sacred Heart are not going to be quality wins, and given last year's up and down history in the early season, there could be some non-quality non-wins.
Canisius added on 11/23 at home. That's 29, folks:
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?gender=m&season=20042005&team=cor
In addition to the...addition....of Canisius (yawn), we're playing an exhibition game on 10/22 against McGill
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?gender=m&season=20042005&team=cor
Yet another year with a crappy NC schedule, combined with a mostly-crappy ECAC schedule. ::screwy:: As I've said numerous times, if you want to compete with the big boys, you need to play them more regularly.
Kyle
well, with 2 against MSU, and 2 against BC/SCSU/Maine its and against HC (ecac next year?) its not that bad. at least Canisus' SOS will be boosted by games against NoDak... ::rolleyes::
[Q]krose Wrote:
Yet another year with a crappy NC schedule, combined with a mostly-crappy ECAC schedule. As I've said numerous times, if you want to compete with the big boys, you need to play them more regularly.
Kyle[/q]
Could it be some teams would just as soon not play a wild card like Cornell? Cornell has a good year, we're going to be tough to beat. (Well, unless the other team isn't very good.) Cornell has an off year, we're going to be a tough team to beat. So the other team's coach and athletic director are probably recalling Clint Eastwood and "Was that five bullets or six he fired? ... Are [we] feeling lucky today?" If I wanted to play a team from central/upstate New York that starts with C-O, I think I'd choose the Red Raiders.
[q]Could it be some teams would just as soon not play a wild card like Cornell?[/q]I doubt the top programs are really afraid to play Cornell. ITop programs want to play tough teams. I'd say the regular presence of lower ranked teams on the schedule has more to do with several other factors:
- Length of season. Everyone elese (non-Ivy) starts in October and plays a lot of non-conf games then. We can't schedule a team in that time frame, which makes it harder to schedule games.
- Two game series. The Western teams tend to play two game series. With fewer non-conf games to work with Cornell may be less willing to sign up for a two game set.
- Home/away agreements. Many of the teams Cornell has played out of conference either play in Lynah or have had multi year home and home agreements. It might not be that hard to schedule a game at Yost, but getting Michigan to come to Lynah is a lot harder. Schafer may not be very willing to schedule road games without reciprocity. (Is MSU slated to come to Lynah in '05?)
Just my three or four cents.
The teams that made last year's NCAA tournament played an average of 13 games against other tournament teams -- Cornell played 5. Cornell, btw, had the best winning % against tournament teams, compared to the field.
The Ivies either need to let their teams make up the game reduction or the ECAC needs to get smaller, thus allowing more OOC games (or both). Otherwise Cornell, and any other ECAC team, will always be at a disadvantage when it comes tournament time.
More games would be better, and more ranked opponents would be better, but it is not as if the program is crashing and burning without them. Schafer is doing a good job with what he has, and he may well be deliberately scheduling confidence-building games, especially after what transpired at home last year.
[Q]KeithK Wrote:[/q]
[Q2] (Is MSU slated to come to Lynah in '05?)[/q]
Well you can take a look at the tenative schedule for 2005-2006:
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20052006&team=28&gender=m
[q]Well you can take a look at the tenative schedule for 2005-2006: [USCHO link] [/q]Gee, that's helpful. I guess we're not playing MSU in 05-06, or anybody else. Is the NHL lockout going to spill over into college by that season? :-P
[Q]Many of the teams Cornell has played out of conference either play in Lynah or have had multi year home and home agreements. It might not be that hard to schedule a game at Yost, but getting Michigan to come to Lynah is a lot harder. Schafer may not be very willing to schedule road games without reciprocity. (Is MSU slated to come to Lynah in '05?) Just my three or four cents.[/q]
I couldn't imagine Cornell agreeing to play Michigan State without it being a one year there, one year here series. That happens when Nebraska needs cannon fodder for its football team early on in the year, and Missouri Teachers & Agricultural, new to D1, wants some cash.
[q]I couldn't imagine Cornell agreeing to play Michigan State without it being a one year there, one year here series.[/q]Well, we did go to Yost back in '97 without any reciprocity. Then again, the program has made some strides since then. I agree, we probably do have an agreement with MSU, but I haven't seen/heard confirmation of it.
Given how late Canisius came in, it may also be that Schafer tried other options that didn't work out, and he had to go to the "B" list.
Just noticed that the Canisius game is the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, rather than over the holiday weekend...
[Q]David Harding Wrote:
Just noticed that the Canisius game is the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, rather than over the holiday weekend...[/q]
That is a bizarre piece of scheduling. Is there a redeye out of Ithaca for students who want to catch the game before heading home?
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
[Q2]David Harding Wrote:
Just noticed that the Canisius game is the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, rather than over the holiday weekend...[/Q]
That is a bizarre piece of scheduling. Is there a redeye out of Ithaca for students who want to catch the game before heading home? [/q]
Are there no Wednesday classes?
[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:
[Q2]billhoward Wrote:
[Q2]David Harding Wrote:
Just noticed that the Canisius game is the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, rather than over the holiday weekend...[/Q]
That is a bizarre piece of scheduling. Is there a redeye out of Ithaca for students who want to catch the game before heading home? [/Q]
Are there no Wednesday classes?[/q]
There are, or at least there should be. Break officially starts at 1:25pm on Wednesday.
[q] couldn't imagine Cornell agreeing to play Michigan State without it being a one year there, one year here series.[/q]
"and when the man dances
Certainly, boys, what else? The piper pays him!"
It doesn't really work out that way. The CCHA and WCHA schools have huge barns with huge revenue, and even when the status of the programs is roughly equal (which they aren't), they still aren't going to give up that revenue very often.
[Q]Are there no Wednesday classes?[/q]
You mean classes held, or classes attended ... the day before Thanksgiving?
[q]That is a bizarre piece of scheduling.[/q]It's not really bizarre at all. I don't think there have been too many mid week November games lately (without looking) but I know I went to a few Thanksgiving week Tuesday night games in the 90s, both at Lynah and one on the road.
The last time Maine came to Lynah...let's see sophomore year would make it...Nov '98...was on a Tuesday. Melissa had to miss it due to an orgo prelim.
[Q]judy Wrote:
The last time Maine came to Lynah...let's see sophomore year would make it...Nov '98...was on a Tuesday. Melissa had to miss it due to an orgo prelim.[/q]Facetimer.
[Q]judy Wrote:
The last time Maine came to Lynah...let's see sophomore year would make it...Nov '98...was on a Tuesday. Melissa had to miss it due to an orgo prelim.[/q]
Wow, a prelim the Tuesday night before Thanksgiving. That's brutal.
But I think the Tuesday night game in November 1998 was at Northeastern. I was at the Maine game at Lynah, which I think was the Tuesday before Thanksgiving 2000, because we played them again in the first Everblades final the same year. And it was also Shawn Walsh's last season.
you have a much better memory than me...as you can't see I can't really remember back more than a year or two. i wonder what game it was I was thinking of or what prelim she had...
[Q]judy Wrote:
The last time Maine came to Lynah...let's see sophomore year would make it...Nov '98...was on a Tuesday. Melissa had to miss it due to an orgo prelim.[/q]On the other hand, my senior year we had a prelim moved earlier in the evening so we go get to Lynah for a game. I think all games were at 8:00 PM then.
So the argument here is that we can't easily schedule major OOC opponents at home without a bigger rink? I'm surprised no one's jumped into the expansion discussion again. ::uhoh::
so i guess that means canisius away in 2006? that is cool for me :) now i wonder if i can make any of these games... :-/
Doubtful. Cornell's been throwing bones to MAAC (or whatever the hell they're called now) schools the last few years. I don't think Schafer has much interest in making them reciprocal arrangements to play in front of dozens of fans in a high school rink. Hell, I'm sure the visiting MAAC schools love playing at Cornell since their chunk of the gate is proably about what they get at home for the whole year. I'll stop Atlantic Hockey-bashing now...
true, Age. I understand what you are saying but do you think it is BS if the teams from the frozen four this year say the same about ecac teams? and dont dash my hopes of seeing a game in 2 years :) ::help::
Looks like the Canisius game has been moved from Tuesday before Thanksgiving to the Saturaday afterwards. That kind of sucks for attendance, I'd think there'd be more people staying on Tuesday than coming back early on Sat.