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Title: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 10, 2004, 09:46:28 PM

Penn doing Cornell a favor tonight.
They DOMINATED Princeton in Princeton. The final was 67-52.


Princeton now comes to Cornell at 4-1, having lost tonight and needing two overtimes to beat Harvard on Saturday.

Things are a little tighter now:

Cornell 5-1
Princeton 4-1
Brown 4-2
Penn 3-2
Yale 3-3
Columbia 2-4
H & D 1-5
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Jeff Hopkins \'82 on February 11, 2004, 08:01:50 AM
So who do we want to play in the NCAA's - Duke, Stanford or St. Joe's?  ;-)

JH
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Greg Berge on February 11, 2004, 08:04:15 AM
How is the title determined on a tie?  Least recent team to win (i.e., the Rose Bowl rule?)
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: jtwcornell91 on February 11, 2004, 08:09:15 AM
QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:

How is the title determined on a tie?  Least recent team to win (i.e., the Rose Bowl rule?)
Playoff.  At least that's what they did when Yale, Princeton, and Penn tied in 2002.  (So it may just be if head-to-head doesn't resolve anything.)

Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Jacob 03 on February 11, 2004, 08:40:10 AM
I might be wrong, but I was under the impression the "title" was shared, and that the playoff only determined which team received the automatic berth to the NCAA's....
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 11, 2004, 09:05:40 AM
[q] I might be wrong, but I was under the impression the "title" was shared, and that the playoff only determined which team received the automatic berth to the NCAA's.... [/q]

I'm pretty sure that's in. Yale and the Ps are all considered Ivy Champs for 2002, just as Dartmouth, Princeton, and Cornell were Ivy lax champs last spring.
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Robb \'94 on February 11, 2004, 09:13:11 AM
Heh - so it's really the 65/66 team play-in game... ::yark::
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 11, 2004, 09:25:18 AM
Believe it or not, our RPI would probably be good enough not to be in the play-in if we were to win the league.
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: ugarte on February 11, 2004, 11:10:41 AM
QuoteChris '03 wrote:

Believe it or not, our RPI would probably be good enough not to be in the play-in if we were to win the league.
In last week's Bracketology on ESPN.com we were a 16 (vs. St. Joe), but not in the PIG.  This week Princeton (who was 4-0 at the time) is a 15 seed.

Important weekend coming up. LET'S GO RED!!!



Post Edited (02-11-04 11:11)
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: cornelldavy on February 11, 2004, 12:59:02 PM
The loss to Yale hurt our RPI enough that we currently rank 65th out of the teams that would make the tournament if things ended the way they are. To be honest, I'd rather see Cornell in the play-in game, because then they get an extra game, and even better than that, they have a shot in hell at winning a postseason game.
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: ugarte on February 11, 2004, 04:24:11 PM
QuoteAlex F. '03 wrote:

The loss to Yale hurt our RPI enough that we currently rank 65th out of the teams that would make the tournament if things ended the way they are. To be honest, I'd rather see Cornell in the play-in game, because then they get an extra game, and even better than that, they have a shot in hell at winning a postseason game.
And it will be on in prime time, unopposed.  (I think the PIG is set for Raleigh, NC - I'd only go in person if it were in Buffalo.)  

Still, I'd rather the Ivy League not return to being seen as the weakest conference in the country again.

Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 11, 2004, 04:36:46 PM
I have no data to back this up, but my guess would be that the Ivy champ would almost be guaranteed to avoid the PIG, if only because the Ivies don't have a tournament.

The team that represents the Ivies will have to have a better than 64th RPI, because there will be an upset in a mid-major conference tournament where an otherwise crummy team will find its way into the tournament.

Ultimately it has nothing to do with whether the conference is the weakest when the conference doesn't have a tournament and the bid will in most cases go to a team with at most 3 losses.

Some anamoly where there is a 4+ team tie atop the Ivies and they has a "tournament" then the Ivy rep may end up in the PIG. The only other PIG possibility may be a team that went winless out of conference and barely won the Ivies.

That's my theory anyway.
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: cornelldavy on February 13, 2004, 07:16:33 PM
check out the 11pm SportsCenter tonight...as of now, the Cornell-Princeton basketball game is scheduled to lead the show. Guess we have the lack of NBA and top 25 games to thank for that.
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 13, 2004, 08:25:43 PM
7 to go in the 1st:

Cornell 17-13
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: atb9 on February 13, 2004, 08:26:36 PM
keep those updates coming!  thanks!  :-D

Title: PU @ CU
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 13, 2004, 08:30:07 PM
P on a 9-2 run. Cornell now up 2, 20-18.
Title: Re: PU @ CU
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 13, 2004, 08:33:18 PM
Yale by 31 over Dartmouth late
Brown by 22 over Harvard ten to go
Penn by 16 with 11 to go

Cornell  20
PU  22

4 to go in the first
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 13, 2004, 08:40:32 PM
P 28-23 with the ball about two to go in the first
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Chris \'03 on February 13, 2004, 08:44:34 PM

PU 28
CU 25

CU barely missed a desparation 3 at the buzzer apparently.

Half
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: cornelldavy on February 13, 2004, 08:57:42 PM
out of town:
Penn beat Columbia, 91-76
Brown beat Harvard, 91-67
Yale beat Dartmouth, 78-40
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: atb9 on February 13, 2004, 09:13:19 PM
Has the second half started?

Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: cornelldavy on February 13, 2004, 09:14:54 PM
bad news...

NCAA BB  PRINCETON              42
         CORNELL                33    13:23 LEFT, 2ND HALF
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: atb9 on February 13, 2004, 09:16:14 PM
:-(   still time left   :-P

Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: cornelldavy on February 13, 2004, 09:21:32 PM
NCAA BB  PRINCETON              42
         CORNELL                37    10:56 LEFT, 2ND HALF
Title: [OT] Ivy Hoops PU 47 CU 43 9:00 2nd half
Post by: jhib on February 13, 2004, 09:27:23 PM
47-43
Title: PU 49 CU 46, 7:35 2nd half
Post by: cornelldavy on February 13, 2004, 09:31:57 PM
PRINCETON              49
         CORNELL                46    7:35 LEFT, 2ND HALF
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: jtwcornell91 on February 13, 2004, 09:34:37 PM
Princeton feed:
http://realserver.princeton.edu:8080/ramgen/encoder/sports/20040213PRINCETONatCORNELLmbballWPRB16K.rm

Title: PU 54 CU 48, 4:17 2nd half
Post by: cornelldavy on February 13, 2004, 09:39:23 PM
NCAA BB  PRINCETON              54
         CORNELL                48    4:17 LEFT, 2ND HALF


Title: Re: PU 59 CU 52, 2:13 2nd half
Post by: jhib on February 13, 2004, 09:45:35 PM
59-52
time slipping away, but still a chance
Title: Re: PU 59 CU 54, 1:54 2nd half
Post by: cornelldavy on February 13, 2004, 09:47:43 PM
NCAA BB  PRINCETON              59
         CORNELL                54    1:54 LEFT, 2ND HALF
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: ugarte on February 13, 2004, 09:59:24 PM
Princeton 69, Cornell 64 - Final.

Princeton 5-1
Cornell 5-2

We need to beat Penn tomorrow.



Post Edited (02-13-04 21:59)
Title: [OT] Ivy Hoops PU 69 CU 64 final
Post by: jhib on February 13, 2004, 10:04:54 PM
Oh well.  At least we're good enough this year to keep it interesting.



Post Edited (02-13-04 22:05)
Title: Re: [OT] Ivy Hoops
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 13, 2004, 11:35:57 PM
Hey, no oh well, this is great. Get to see hockey and finish with b'ball, and a good crowd at that. We have great possibilities here.