From the pregame, I don't think Vesce is playing tonight.
Post Edited (02-06-04 21:20)
Schafer had made some comments to that effect -- he was saying Vesce and Cam Abbott are going to be out for a while.
:-( Justin and I are listening together after the weather scared us from travelling...four loses in a row would be hard to take.
Adam said Cam will play tonight. Only Vesce is out.
Bitz at center tonight.
Glad to hear Cam is feeling better :)
Charlie Cook gets hammered on his first shift and may be badly hurt.
Cook got slammed into the boards...is slow to get up.
Gets up under his own power, thankfully. Schafer pissed there was no call.
Interference on Carefoot. Dartmouth pp.
Grant Lewis beats McKee for a ppg at 2:27.
Awwwwwwwwwwww shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
Good news...Cook back in game.
is charlie looking alright now?
Hynes draws a penalty; Cornell pp coming up halfway through the period.
is there a link to the dartmouth radio feed?
Yes go to the free audio on the left of this page. There not the greatest but they'll do.
QuoteBigRedIslander '03 wrote:
is there a link to the dartmouth radio feed?
http://members.cox.net/tbrw/tbrwTop/allAudio.html
Cornell pp expires without a shorthanded goal.
Hynes checked from behind head first into the board. Cornell pp coming up.
5 minute major and game misconduct.
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYY
CHRIS ABBOTT SCORES A F'ING POWER PLAY GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post Edited (02-06-04 19:33)
1 14:40 Cor pp Chris Abbott 3 (Bitz 9)
1-1!!!!!!!! WE HAVE A CHANCE WE HAVE A CHANCE WE HAVE A CHANCE!
*PRAY TO BOB MARLEY, SEE WHAT HE CAN DO*
CAM ABBOTT!!! SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEE
CAM ABBOTT SCORES A F'ING POWER PLAY GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank God he's back, WE MISSED HIM!!!
KEEP PRAYINGB-]
1 17:34 Cor pp Cam Abbott 7 (Wallace 5, Bitz 10)
Glover tripped and kicked (accidentally) and hurt.
Glover is hurt. Got tripped and kicked in the head. . .
Glover leaves under own power and period expires.
Wow, you guys we're actually winning.. :-O
Great to hear the Pep Band.
Anyone catch the Cornell line make-ups?
2 goals in one game? One period even? ::twitch::
We want more!!!!
2 powerplay goals no less! This is very refreshing!
In other positive Cornell sports news, the men's basketball team is poised to go 5-0 in Ivy play. They're up 42-22 on Brown at halftime. Ka'Ron Barnes has 19 points at the break. Barnes, by the way, is leading the Ivy League in points per game (20.8) and is 19th in the country in that stat.
Also, Pelletier is starting in net tonight for Springfield against Manchester.
good audio!:-D :-}:-) ::snore::
Cornell goes on pp early in the 2nd.
"WHAT???!"
LOL
i got a new sick computer i can hear perfectly:-P
pp over
Even up call on McCutcheon ends the pp. Some good pressure on that one, especially from the Abbott line that's been just flying.
pp for dartmouth
:-(
"ma-CHU-shun". :)
Out of town scores, in 2nd:
Union 2 Clarkson 0
Vermont 3 Colgate 1
SLU 0 RPI 0
O'Byrne and Glover did not return to bench for the 2nd period.
I agree the audio is stellar;-)
*Pray to Bob Marley*
Dartmouth pp ends.
SLU 1 RPI 1, 2nd
14:02 Mckee covers up
harvard starts about right now
Dartmouth announcer just called O'Byrne's name.
At halfway point, shots 14-8 Dartmouth.
anybody have audio for harvard (sucks) ::nut::
Dartmouth ties it from a tough angle.
ehh fuckers
goal dartmouth
2 11:10 Drt Oullette (unassisted)
hey greg, you are 30 seconds ahead of the rest of us ... please wait to post your goal calls, please ... :-)
goal by mike roulette unnassisted:-(
Sorry. I'll wait.
Shots are 11-4 this period, 17-11 game (favor Dartmouth)
good chances by dartmouth
::help:: anyone have audio for harvard game so i can inform you guys\\girls;-)
try the free audio link in the upper left...then click on Harvard
Goal!!!!!!!!! Knoepfli!!!!
Woohoo!!!
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
And it wasn't us with the neutral ice giveaway!
goal knofli? cornell
2 19:11 Cor Knoepfli 4 (unassisted)
First time Cornell has scored 3 goals since January 9th.
End of 2nd, 3-2. Knoepfli scored on a horrendous neutral zone turnover by Dartmouth.
end of 2nd
Yale up 1-0 with 6:30 to go in 1st.
what?
::help:: please
al where did you find out the score of yale harvard game?
http://www.whrb.org/
How are the hoopsters doing?
QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:
How are the hoopsters doing?
There's a whole other thread on that.
Anyone else having trouble with the Dartmouth audio? I was trying to listen and it worked for a bit but then started kicking me off every 2 minutes or so. It got annoying enough that I've given up for the time being.
Then again, before I turned it on Cornell scored two. Then I heard DC score and after I gave up we took the lead again. Maybe I shouldn't try to listen anymore tonight (eps. since I'm still at work).
then click harvard sports but then its confusing for the rest of it it only shows their schedule
Keith: Dartmouth audio is working fine for me.
click on which stream you want and the file type, either "mp3" or "wma"...all are on the main page
should be in the upper right hand corner
Post Edited (02-06-04 20:36)
Now 2-0 Yale. Game is on CSTV.
Now 3-0 Yale. Still in 1st.
3-0 yale winning beating sucks
pp yale
4-0 Yale on last minute PPG.
new thread or change the topic name for yale/sucks updates...
Yeah, please.
Cornell wins the faceoff.
Post Edited (02-06-04 20:44)
Out of town scores:
Yale 3 Harvard 0
RPI 2 SLU 1
Union 2 Clarkson 0
UVM 3 Colgate 2
Princeton 2 Brown 2
4-0 yale that is greg
::laugh:: :-D :-}:-) ;-) :-P ::rolleyes:: :-/ :-( :`( ::twitch:: B-] ::worry:: ::nut:: ::snore:: ::yark:: ::uhoh:: ::help:: ::screwy::
bored
key saves by Mckee 16:22 left in 3rd
I can tell ::nut::
Mckee on fireish:-D
icing dartmouth 15:18 to go
Hell yeah!!!!! Moulson after another neutral zone giveaway! This is the Big Red I know and love!
YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU BOB
goall = ::nut::
3 5:05 Cor Moulson 13 (unassisted)
enough with the marley please
This win *knocking on wood* will certainly mean a lot to us:)
It's working, don't knock it.
Gleed roughing. Dartmouth pp.
moulson sparks the team
14:40 to go
McKee several great saves and now he's hurt.
any scores outside the game other than harvard (brownprinceton]
Todd Marr warming up.
*gulp*
rut ro here comes marr
McKee coming off -- leg injury.
cornell 96 brown81 game over in basketball
Who said knock on wood ....
Way to go asshole
if only it was hockey:`(
Hold on tight, here we go...
Huge win! Very happy that our bball team is 5-0 in the Ivy!
pp over 12:34 to go
pp over. Marr made one nice save.
im feelin it
may be just reflexes you never know
lets get a shot here :-(
Slash on Dartmouth; Cornell pp coming up. Great forecheck by Bitz and Hynes. Shots are 28-16 Dartmouth.
YAY TODD MARR!
pp cornell 10:30 Mike turner
No goal...Adam is upset but the Red aren't arguing
We just had to start talking about goalies playing every minute of the season...
my audio must be coming in slow
QuoteKeith K '93 wrote:
We just had to start talking about goalies playing every minute of the season...
Sorry, that was me. ::worry::
that was a horrendous job of describing whatever it was that just happened by the dartmouth announcers
sorry, I'm listening to it on the radio in Ithaca....
i just clicked your thread adam and it said no goal and 10 seconds later and the audio told about it ::screwy::
5x5, 8 minutes to go.
I agree,
I would expect something of that uselessness and vague from Harvard
i know
oh
great save by yacey
The audio is spread out -- I'm ahead by about 30 seconds, Adam is ahead by about 15 seconds. Tyler seems to be last -- if we hang back by a few seconds he'll get audio and then commentary.
Any scores from around the ECAC? Did Vermont finish off Colgate?
still 4-0 in yale harvard game. shots are 14-13 yale in favor
5:36 to go. Hang on, lads.
Post Edited (02-06-04 21:07)
by the way my name is trevor, ii am 10 yrs old and my brothers name is tyler
Welcome, Trevor.
OK, trevor. Welcome.
I just tuned in. Was McKee hurt?
JH
i was always here it was just that i was using my brothers name here i ll change my name on the thing. hmm i wonder where the smiley with the i'm with stupid guy is?
Yes, McKee sustained an injury to a leg. Extent unknown. He left the game but is on the bench, not in the trainers room.
yeah his leg now marr is in net about 4:00 left i think my audio is behind
any outside scores? how is brown doing? I mean that in a bad way
2:45 to go
We're winning at Dartmouth. Oh the announcers are nervous. How about biting teeth hoping for our first win at Thompson since '97
these announcers are cheesy so is dartmouths fight song
tom do you know mike marrero if you do i am his son
Brown 5, Princeton 2; final.
crap
2:18 to go
UVM 3 Gate 3, 2 mins to go.
The pep band has never sounded sweeter right now.
... a couple of "homers" ::twak::
Dartmouth pulls Yacey.
Well, welcome Trevor Marrero. Aaah, it's one big family on here.
o ............. now he is:-}
SLU 3 - RPI 2 late in the third
who are you callin homers
yup
game over
the dartmouth announcers:-D
Cornell wins 4-2, a bit of a fight breaks out at the end of the game
Well, that was pretty huge.
Yes, the streak is broken! Now we can go to Vermont and get a 4-point weekend. Funny note thta the game ended in a fight. O'Byrne was involved. I'm looking foward to seeing him in class on Monday and seeing his reaction. He is definately the next Hornby.
yale up 5-1 yale i was just about to write four one but yale just scored!!!!!
[Q]trevor wrote:
tom do you know mike marrero if you do i am his son[/Q]And if he doesn't know mike, then whose son are you?:-D
Granted Todd Marr stood on his head, the 5-minute major helped, but I don't think we could have won without Trevor. Say hi to your dad. Tell him the Cornell Club's Red Sox game is July 10th and he should take you.
Yale now up 5-2.
RPI loses to SLU.
Clarkson loses to Union.
Colgate tied by Vermont.
A good night for Cornell in terms of league results. If Yale holds on, points standings will be:
23 Brown (W)
21 Colgate (T)
20 Yale (W)
18 Dartmouth (L)
17 Cornell (W)
17 RPI (L)
14 Clarkson (L)
Tomorrow night:
Brown plays Yale
Colgate plays Dartmouth
Clarkson plays RPI
so Cornell has a golden opportunity to pick up points on half the bye contenders.
Post Edited (02-06-04 21:40)
Harvard pulls closer, 5-3.
Harvard has a 5x3 pp midway through the third.
5-4 with 7+ minutes to go. If Harvard costs Yale points that would be *great* for us.
Pettit scores. 5-5. 6:54 to go, Harvard has 53 shots.
Post Edited (02-06-04 22:15)
Harvard 6 Yale 5, 6:23 to go. I don't believe what I'm hearing.
3:28 to go. What a monumental collapse. Harvard closing in on 60 shots.
7-5, Harvard empty net goal.
Here's what the point standings will be:
23 Brown (W)
21 Colgate (T)
18 Yale (L)
18 Dartmouth (L)
17 Cornell (W)
17 RPI (L)
15 Harvard (W)
14 Clarkson (L)
Cornell can theoretically be in third place after tomorrow night.
Now that's what I'll call a nice birthday gift :)
If my math is correct, here are the new (albeit pretty meaningless) Ivy standings:
Brown 6-1-1 13pts.... 2 games left (@Y, vs D)
Cornell 5-2-1 11p........2 to play (vs P/Y)
Dartmouth 4-1-1 9p..... 4 to play (vs Y/P, @B/H)
Princeton 3-5 6p .... 2 to play (@C, @D)
Harvard 2-6-1 5p..... 1 to play (vs D)
Yale 1-6 2p ..... 3 to play (@C,@D, vs. B)
H/Y/P are all out of the running. B and D both sort of control their own destiny. If either team wins out, it's all theirs. If B goes 1-1, C goes 2-0, and D goes 3-1, it's a three way tie.
Is it just me, or is this guy Juan Martinez the worst writer on USCHO. This guy has never once mentioned all the injuries the Red has had to deal with and in general shows absolutely no depth of knowledge when it comes to the details behind the performance of any of the ECAC teams. I know that this league is tough to cover, unpredictable teams that are up and down etc. etc. but this guy's articles are the blandest and most devoid of any real information that I've ever read. I used to wait for Moy and Adam's articles, but it's a waste of time reading this guy!
So, in other words, go Yale and Princeton, except against us.
if brown goes 1-1 and we go 2-0 against ivies, wouldn't brown beat us for the title since they win the tiebreaker against us?
QuoteMike wrote:
if brown goes 1-1 and we go 2-0 against ivies, wouldn't brown beat us for the title since they win the tiebreaker against us?
No tie-breakers are used in the Ivy race. The championship is shared.
Ivy Titles: http://members.cox.net/tbrw/ivy/IvyChampsIcon.htm
Current Status: http://members.cox.net/tbrw/ivy/Ivy2004.html
Basically, Brown has to get 2 points or less out of its remaining Ivy League games (Yale, Dartmouth) in order for us to have a chance of winning the Ivy title.
Of course, rooting for Yale and/or Dartmouth may also eventually cost us a first round bye in the ECAC playoffs. (Well, the rooting itself won't......oh you know what I mean......)
Post Edited (02-07-04 00:48)
Ugly game to watch, as the two absolutely horrendous turnovers in Dartmouth's own zone (I believe both by freshmen D) was the difference in the game. Once is forgiveable, twice is carelessness. And the fact that Dartmouth played like a bunch of goons isn't helping matters. Though, none of Cornell's injuries came on goon-like plays.
Cook early on was hurt on a clean but hard hit on the endboards. If Schafer was pissed about that one, he shouldn't have been. It wasn't dirty.
Likewise, the one guy who got kicked lost an edge or something as the Dartmouth guy was lining him up, fell down and was spinning on the ice, and the Dartmouth guy had nowhere to go. Definitely wasn't malicious, just bad luck that his head was turning toward the Dartmouth player as he made contact, but it couldn't have been avoided either.
McKee I have no idea what happened. Dartmouth had about a 5-shot flurry on the PP and there was about a 6 player scrum in front of the net while the play was going on. All of a sudden McKee goes down and starts rolling, the ref blows the whistle though Dartmouth has the puck and is facing an empty net, and the crowd was ticked off. I thought he was holding his head, but I suppose it could've been the leg.
But Guimond's hit from behind was blatent and dangerous, and the major/game misconduct was far more appropriate than the one last weekend against Union. I was just ticked that the ref (Kotyra) was looking right at it and didn't call it, but the linesman did. I thought linesmen were only supposed to call stuff the ref doesn't see.
Otherwise Kotyra let alot of stuff go. A few slashes by Dartmouth, one pretty blatent high stick by Cornell, at least he was even for the most part. Dartmouth probably benefited given that they haven't been the cleanest team the last 4-5 periods of play going back to the second half of the Union game.
And while Cornell may not be "clutch and grab", they are "get it to the boards and scrum for 30 seconds" - effective, legal, but about as fun to watch as the neutral zone trap. And really it didn't generate much offense for em. 2 PPG's and 2 breakaway goals off horrendus turnovers, they didn't generate much off their set offense.
Oh, and the last play that you never really got a good description of. Cornell shot from the right circle beat Yacey either 5-hole or just wide, hit the left post, and came straight out. Kotyra was right there and immediately signaled no goal.
goto
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~mhockey/dmh0304/Index0304.html
and scroll down to Cornell
the quicktime video shows the hit on Cook right at the begining and the injury to McKee at the end. I still can't tell what happened to McKee even after seeing it (not the greatest quality).
You heard it here first ... Cornell does not "clutch and grab" ... ;-) ::rolleyes:: ;-)
QuoteBen Flickinger wrote:
And while Cornell may not be "clutch and grab", they are "get it to the boards and scrum for 30 seconds" - effective, legal, but about as fun to watch as the neutral zone trap. And really it didn't generate much offense for em. 2 PPG's and 2 breakaway goals off horrendus turnovers, they didn't generate much off their set offense.
As for generating offense ... it's more about wearing the other down w/ physical play. When they're as banged as they are now the system tends not to work as well. BTW, "get it to the boards and scrum for 30 seconds"
IS cornell hockey ... we loved that sh*t!
Thanks for the recap Ben :-)
Post Edited (02-07-04 12:32)
from what i can tell mckee was on the right post...the puck moved in between the circles and mckee stayed with it and possibly made a save there...then he loooks like he jumps quickly back across to the right post to save what looks like a wrap around shot or something similar...and then he's down on his back
Thanks Ben... the McKee injury definitely seems pretty random, he musta just ended up in an odd position and pulled something. With all out injuries, I'm gonna guess that Schafer plays it safe and puts in Marr tonight... let McKee get to 100%, unless somehow he is already.
To be fair, your description made it sound like McKee went down, the puck popped out to an open guy, and the ref immediately blew the whistle. That clearly wasn't the case :). McKee went down, the puck went to the corner, McKee was writhing around for a good 2 or 3 seconds while Dartmouth brought the puck behind the net and around, just as they began to move out front, the ref blew the whistle. If anything, it was a late whistle, which could only add to the frustration, but there's no way that could be a goal.
That video is very Dartmouth-centered... which is to be expected, I guess. Still I was disappointed that a 'highlights' video only showed 2 of the 6 goals. Age used to post all the goals :-P.
Thanks for the info, maybe we'll see ya in Albany ;).... or the 2nd round.
Not making a comparison to eLynah, certainly not knocking this site, Age's photos are far better, but any else think the Dartmouth Hockey site is pretty good? Big Red's official athletic hockey site isn't bad, but you certainly get more content at Dartmouth's.
Sound bites, video highlights updated the morning after a game, and apparently being hosted by the College with them picking up bandwidth charges, that's pretty sweet.
I kind of feel if CU tried something like that someone would get a cease and desist letter or it would cost $10 a month.
Any one know of other really good official college hockey team pages?
Post Edited (02-07-04 12:42)
That isn't the official site (anymore - it used to be 2-3 years ago). The official site is your standard OCSN format at http://athletics.dartmouth.edu
But they do link to the "extra" one on the top of the official men's hockey site, so it works out.
And yeah, I guess the fact he waited to blow the whistle after McKee went down until we had a scoring chance is what set the crowd off. Had he blown it while the puck was in the corner it wouldn't have been as bad, but by waiting til the puck was in front, oh well.
I guess he wanted to wait as long as he could to see if McKee got up, and once there was about to be a scoring chance, he blew the whistle. Not necessarily the best move but it's not improper either, just likely to set the crowd off.
ben, did you get a good look at the scrum after the game had ended? the description by adam was a little sketchy, but i guess that happens when you are short a color guy. anyways, all i got was that jessiman gave a slash at the end of the game and abbott jumped in and maybe o'byrne. you got anymore details than that?
The videographer for Dartmouth needs a tripod really badly. Video quality isn't too bad, but whoever is taking video really needs to hold the camera more steady.
[Q]anyways, all i got was that jessiman gave a slash at the end of the game and abbott jumped in and maybe o'byrne[/Q]
There were actually some penalties handed out:
COR-6 Jeremy Downs (5-Cross-Checking) 20:00
COR-7 Mike Iggulden (2-Roughing) 20:00
DAR-8 Hugh Jessiman (5-Cross-Checking) 20:00
DAR-9 Sean Offers (2-Roughing) 20:00
....according to the boxscore: http://www.collegehockeystats.com/0304/boxes/mcordar1.f06
(p.s. has a thread ever gone over 200 posts before?!)
Post Edited (02-07-04 13:54)
[q](p.s. has a thread ever gone over 200 posts before?!)[/q]
I can't verify this, but check out the "Colgate Pep Band" thread from last season. The final post on it was just about this time last year (Early Feb.)
[Q]I can't verify this, but check out the "Colgate Pep Band" thread from last season. The final post on it was just about this time last year (Early Feb.)[/Q]
That thread, classic though it was, "only" had 150 posts. I know a couple game threads this season (other than this one) had more, including Cornell at Brown (173 posts) and Cornell vs Ohio State at the Everblades (196).
The ticket line procedure thread was pretty long. :-)
[Q]The ticket line procedure thread was pretty long.[/Q]
Good point! That was 204 posts. But then again, so was this until we (okay, I) started talking about thread lengths :-)
I'll stop now....
Yeah, because of all the lateral movements McKee was making, I thought it might have been a muscle pull, but the last Green player coming across the crease area looks like he might have tripped over the end of McKee's right leg pad. Maybe that last jolt was what caused the muscle to go a little too far. Certainly inadvertent.
As was the Glover incident. Pretty much every description I've heard matches Ben F's.
I would expect Marr to play tonight. First of all, it sounds that the team on whole seemed to wake up when Marr went in at DC. Maybe having to worry about protecting a cold goaltender got their minds working a little better than they had been for the past month. Whatever works. Second, UVM is the right team to have to face if you want someone to get back into game situations. And if McKee isn't 100%, I'd rather he not risk hurting himself more.
Definitely a useful media site at Dartmouth. And the animated broom for a 4-point weekend is kinda funny.
Post Edited (02-07-04 15:05)
QuoteAvash '05 wrote:
[Q]The ticket line procedure thread was pretty long.[/Q]
Good point! That was 204 posts. But then again, so was this until we (okay, I) started talking about thread lengths :-)
I'll stop now....
I think there was a thread debating the merits of Hot Truck and Louie's Lunch that got up very high.
Post Edited (02-07-04 20:01)
same player that got ejected is the player who checked cook from behind.this is why these type hits need to be turned into central place so kids who are constant offenders are identified. in pro hockey this player would have to pay the price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ditto
[q]same player that got ejected is the player who checked cook from behind.this is why these type hits need to be turned into central place so kids who are constant offenders are identified. in pro hockey this player would have to pay the price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/q]
I'm not sure what you are saying, but the guy who hit Cook (cleanly, btw, hard but clean) was Tanner Glass, the guy who got ejected was Max Guimond.
Yeah Glass got ejected in the Union game, but that was a completely bullshit call, unlike the one against Guimond.
Hey all, got back into Ithaca a few hours ago and wanted to see what everyone was saying. Not really much more to comment on that hasn't already been said, particularly by Ben Flickinger (in other words, someone else who was actually at the game). Let me just say that I agree with Ben 100% about the nature of each of the hits.
It was good to see a really good hockey game involving Cornell for the first time in a long time. Obviously, it was great that Cornell won, but even better was the fact that each team really brought their 'A' game to the ice.
Really, I'm not completely inept... at least I think I'm ept... but I can't seem to find these video highlights you speak of.
what a weekend to go NE to see some games.
gotta sleep so i will make it short. jessiman is a punk and a goon. from uscho...
after seeing him twice this year, and especially after this weekend, I have decided that he is a sleezeball. during the cornell game he was called offsides (i think it was offsides) and he yapped at kotyra and the linesman. he failed to do whatever he was trying to do to kotyra. he proceeded to skate towards the bench and instead of going around the outstretched arm of the linesman he went thru the arm! At the end of the game he stealthily snuck behind a cornell player and crosschecked him in the back -> a shoving match. he was frustrated for missing the net 4 times in a row. what a classless punk. i can't wait to cheer against him when he is a ranger - let stevens deal with him ;)
Post Edited (02-10-04 19:10)
Quotejy3 wrote:
what a classless punk. i can't wait to cheer against him when he is a ranger let stevens deal with him ;)
Oh, the irony. ::rolleyes::
So... basically, he might join Dominic Moore in Hartford?
Sigh.
Does anyone know what this penalty actually was? chs.com simply has it listed as:
DAR-1 Mike Hartwick (2-OBSTRUCTION) COR 0x1 10:57
Since, to the best of my knowledge, Obstruction on its own is not a penalty, and apparently our "extremely astute SID" ::rolleyes:: didn't pick up on it, I'm just looking for clarification.
Here, let me muddy the waters a little.
The minor penalties table in the Penalties section of the NCAA 2004 Ice Hockey Rules and Interpretations lists "Obstruction" (Rule 6 Section 28): http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2004/2004_ice_hockey_rules.pdf But that index contains both penalties and actions for which penalties can be assessed, so the listing in itself is neutral.
Added to this, the section on Obstruction in the Rules section is Rule 6 Section 35 (not 28, which is Instigation), which says Obstruction shall be followed by the name of the infraction (e.g., obstruction-holding). Sections 6-28 and 6-35 in the Summary of Penalties section and in the Interpretations section are omitted. The Index to Interpretations does not list any reference to obstruction.
In other words, a cursory glance at the rule book is not enlightening, and I hope I never have to be a ref, because finding anything in that book would be a nightmare.
It looks to me that it is indeed an error and Obstruction all by itself is not a valid penalty designation. But I wouldn't bet on it, and after reading all the relevant sections of the rule book, that's sad.
Post Edited (02-09-04 14:56)
QuoteCowbell Guy wrote:
Since, to the best of my knowledge, Obstruction on its own is not a penalty, and apparently our "extremely astute SID" ::rolleyes:: didn't pick up on it, I'm just looking for clarification.
Good lord. And you wonder why it is so hard for you to get help...
Perhaps I can suggest a book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671723650/qid=1076355849//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-0082450-0060852?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
I was under the impression that just "Obstruction" is synonymous with "Obstruction-Interference". I could be wrong.
Quotebig red apple wrote:
Perhaps I can suggest a book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671723650/qid=1076355849//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-0082450-0060852?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
I have enough friends :-P
On the other hand, Dilbert definitely spoke to me today...
(http://age.salsashark.net/images/dilbert.jpg)
The great thing about working on government contracts is the absence of scenario number 3 above.
Client (with big grin): "You didn't deliver the polka dot elephant."
Greg (nonplussed): "Where is the Requirement for the polka dot elephant?*"
Client: "There isn't one."
Greg: "You can go now."
Client: "Um..."
Greg: "Scoot!"
Client: (Exits. Sticks head back in office): "Sorry..."
Greg: "You still here?"
*Notice, the question of whether or not the polka dot elephant is an intelligent goal does not enter the conversation. That is the not so great thing about working on government contracts.
The obstruction penalty was obstruction-interference. Don't know if there are other obstruction-*** penalties that are called.
QuoteKen Pavelle '92 wrote:
Don't know if there are other obstruction-*** penalties that are called.
I've seen Obs-Tripping, Holding, Hooking, and Cross-Checking(!) :-)
Hornby still has a month or two left to be the first player ever penalized for obstruction charging. :-D
From the USCHO forum, it sounds like that's more likely to be McCallister.
ummm, that is the point of the wink right? to say something in jest?
Heh, maybe I didn't realize what you meant. My bad.
np josh :):-D