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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: CowbellGuy on January 15, 2004, 02:52:07 PM

Title: National P/GM
Post by: CowbellGuy on January 15, 2004, 02:52:07 PM
I knew Ryan and Matt were doing well, but I was a bit surprised to see just how well they're doing on the national level. Vesce's on pace to probably end up around or below his point total for last year, but Moulson's on pace for over 50 points.
Points Per Game:                                            GP    G- A- P    P/GM
  1 Jared Ross                 Alab-Huntsville   JR C       14    7-18-25    1.79
  2 Brandon Bochenski (OTT)    North Dakota      JR F       19   18-15-33    1.74
  3 Matt Moulson (PIT)         Cornell           SO F       15   11-13-24    1.60
  4 Les Haggett                Brown             JR F       13    3-16-19    1.46
  5 Ryan Vesce                 Cornell           SR F       15    6-15-21    1.40
  6 Brian Ihnacak              Brown             FR F       16    9-13-22    1.38
  7 Ben Eaves                  Boston College    SR F       19    6-20-26    1.37
  8 Derek Edwardson            Miami             SR F       22   12-18-30    1.36
  9 Dana Lattery               Western Michigan  SR F       20   11-16-27    1.35
 10 Hugh Jessiman              Dartmouth         SO F       15    9-11-20    1.33


Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Greg Berge on January 15, 2004, 02:56:29 PM
I'm always annoyed that USCHO doesn't use Pts/GP rather than just Pts (heavily GP biased)for their leading scorers table.

Did you find that, or create it, Age?
Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: CowbellGuy on January 15, 2004, 03:04:38 PM
Sorry. Sources good. Ambiguity bad.

http://www.collegehockeystats.com/0304/national/d1m

Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Greg Berge on January 15, 2004, 03:07:57 PM
Thanks.

Note the scoring margin table from the same page:
Scoring Margin:           Games    GF    GF/G    GA    GA/G    Margin
  1 North Dakota             19    94    4.95    44    2.32      2.63
  2 Maine                    20    77    3.85    35    1.75      2.10
  3 Boston College           20    69    3.45    40    2.00      1.45
  4 Brown                    16    45    2.81    25    1.56      1.25
  5 Cornell                  15    49    3.27    32    2.13      1.13
  6 Colorado College         20    64    3.20    42    2.10      1.10
  7 New Hampshire            23    86    3.74    61    2.65      1.09
  8 Wisconsin                24    80    3.33    54    2.25      1.08
  9 Minnesota                22    87    3.95    64    2.91      1.05
 10 Minnesota-Duluth         23    94    4.09    70    3.04      1.04




Post Edited (01-15-04 15:08)
Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: jtwcornell91 on January 15, 2004, 03:17:31 PM
Don't those stats not include any CCHA games?

Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 15, 2004, 03:55:35 PM
QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:

Thanks.

Note the scoring margin table from the same page:
Scoring Margin:           Games    GF    GF/G    GA    GA/G    Margin
  1 North Dakota             19    94    4.95    44    2.32      2.63
  2 Maine                    20    77    3.85    35    1.75      2.10
  3 Boston College           20    69    3.45    40    2.00      1.45
  4 Brown                    16    45    2.81    25    1.56      1.25
  5 Cornell                  15    49    3.27    32    2.13      1.13
  6 Colorado College         20    64    3.20    42    2.10      1.10
  7 New Hampshire            23    86    3.74    61    2.65      1.09
  8 Wisconsin                24    80    3.33    54    2.25      1.08
  9 Minnesota                22    87    3.95    64    2.91      1.05
 10 Minnesota-Duluth         23    94    4.09    70    3.04      1.04


Post Edited (01-15-04 15:08)
Just for comparison, Ned's last four teams had a combined scoring margin of 4.5.  More scoring in those days, to be fair.

Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: CowbellGuy on January 15, 2004, 04:03:14 PM
No, and it was HEA that originally didn't provide box scores, but they seem to have resolved that. There are plenty of CCHA players in the top 20.

Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Greg Berge on January 15, 2004, 04:21:17 PM
QuoteAl DeFlorio wrote:

Just for comparison, Ned's last four teams had a combined scoring margin of 4.5. More scoring in those days, to be fair.


Also, games against Penn, McMaster, and Loyola (Montana) in those days. ;-)



Post Edited (01-15-04 16:21)
Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Greg Berge on January 15, 2004, 04:25:03 PM
But, to be fair, how about these results:

12-2
4-3
7-2
6-3
3-2
4-2
6-5
3-2

Total: 45-21 = 24 = 3.00 goals margin

That's what they managed in the 8 ECAC SFs and Finals during those 4 seasons.

In Schafer's SFs and Fs over the last 8 years:

3-0
2-1
5-3
2-1
2-3
5-2
1-3
3-0
3-4
2-0
3-2

Total: 31-19 = 12 = 1.09 goals margin.



Post Edited (01-15-04 16:27)
Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: jkahn on January 15, 2004, 04:33:48 PM
[Q]Also, games against Penn, McMaster, and Loyola (Montana) in those days.[/Q]
That would be Loyola (Montreal), where they can play some hockey.  Also, BC and BU were strong opponents, and we played some other good teams such as U Toronto, then the best team in Canada, and UMD with Chico Resch in goal.  If anything, our league now is weaker on a national basis than it was then.



Post Edited (01-15-04 16:34)
Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 15, 2004, 04:35:12 PM
QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:

QuoteAl DeFlorio wrote:

Just for comparison, Ned's last four teams had a combined scoring margin of 4.5. More scoring in those days, to be fair.


Also, games against Penn, McMaster, and Loyola (Montana) in those days. ;-)

Post Edited (01-15-04 16:21)
Mont. is short for Montreal, not Montana.

Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Greg Berge on January 15, 2004, 07:50:01 PM
That makes more sense.  ;-)
Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 15, 2004, 08:17:35 PM
Greg, speaking of which, your "Games by opponent" page, which I make great use of, shows games with both "Loyola" and "Loyola, Mont." The "Loyola, Mont." game was in 1967 with the three "Loyola" games ranging from 1964 to 1973.  I could be wrong--there are a lot of Loyolas running around loose out there--but I suspect these are one and the same school.  

(And I note there's now a Loyola campus of Concordia University in Montreal.  A hostile diocese takeover?) ::nut::

Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: jtwcornell91 on January 15, 2004, 08:22:14 PM
I'm pretty sure Cornell's never played my Loyola.  ::nut::

Title: Re: National P/GM
Post by: Greg Berge on January 16, 2004, 06:27:33 AM
Al, great catch, thanks.  I will see if I can confirm whether any/all of those are Loyola, Mont(real).