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Title: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Chris 02 on December 01, 2003, 06:47:39 PM

USCHO Division I Men's Poll
December 1, 2003

   Team        (First Place)    Record  Pts   Last Week
 1 North Dakota         (36)     9-2-0  595     1
 2 Boston College        (4)     9-2-3  559     2
 3 Maine                        10-2-1  516     3
 4 Colorado College              8-1-3  466     5
 5 New Hampshire                 9-3-1  443     4
 6 Ohio State                   11-5-0  328     9
 7 St. Cloud State               9-3-2  324     8
 8 Denver                        9-4-1  284    10
 9 Massachusetts                 9-3-2  241     7
10 Michigan                      9-5-0  237     6
11 Wisconsin                     8-3-3  173    NR
12 Brown                         6-1-1  167    15
13 Dartmouth                     4-1-4  121    11
14 Notre Dame                    8-3-2   95    NR
15 Boston University             4-4-4   55    12

Others Receiving Votes: Minnesota-Duluth 50,
Harvard 48, Cornell 46, Rensselaer 29,
Minnesota 17, Mercyhurst 2, Providence 2,
Clarkson 1, Quinnipiac 1


Quite a drop among all the ECAC teams including CU.  Half got votes though.



Post Edited (12-01-03 19:01)
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Chris 02 on December 01, 2003, 07:00:51 PM
And the USA Today Poll


USA Today/American Hockey Magazine Top 15 Hockey Poll


The USA Today/American Hockey Magazine Preseason weekly Top 15
men's college hockey poll with first-place votes in parentheses,
total points and previous ranking:

(as of December 1, 2003)

     TEAM                                   PTS   Previous Ranking
     ----                                   ---   ----------------
  1. North Dakota (32)                      507          1
  2. Boston College                         475          2
  3. Maine                                  436          4
  4. Colorado College                       388          6
  5. New Hampshire                          380          3
  6. St. Cloud State                        291          9
  7. Ohio State                             290          8
  8. Denver                                 249         10
  9. Michigan                               193          5
 10. Massachusetts                          183          7
 11. Wisconsin                              165         NR
 12. Brown                                  157         14
 13. Dartmouth                               95         11
 14. Notre Dame                              94         NR
 15. Boston University                       38         12
 
       
Others receiving votes: Minnesota-Duluth 35, Harvard 33,
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 25, Cornell 24, Minnesota 17,
Providence 2, Miami-Ohio 1, Holy Cross 1, Mercyhurst 1.





Post Edited (12-01-03 19:02)
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: A-19 on December 01, 2003, 07:27:54 PM
damn that's depressing
but the estero field is now #3 maine, #7 osu, #14 notre dame and us
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Will on December 01, 2003, 08:01:00 PM
QuoteMike wrote:

damn that's depressing
but the estero field is now #3 maine, #7 osu, #14 notre dame and us

Wow...who would've thought that, of the four teams in the Everblades Tournament, we'd be the bottom feeders?  ::nut::

Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Steve Marciniec \'85 on December 01, 2003, 08:54:49 PM
QuoteOne of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:

QuoteMike wrote:

damn that's depressing
but the estero field is now #3 maine, #7 osu, #14 notre dame and us

Wow...who would've thought that, of the four teams in the Everblades Tournament, we'd be the bottom feeders?  ::nut::


Everyone who thinks we're doing as well or better than can possibly be expected. ::rolleyes::
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Beeeej on December 01, 2003, 09:12:52 PM
How long has it been since the last time we weren't ranked?  Since the middle of the 2001-02 season?

Beeeej

Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: dss28 on December 01, 2003, 09:13:30 PM
I'm gonna worry about Brown and Harvard first... then get on to the tournament.   ::uhoh::
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: mike on December 01, 2003, 09:31:56 PM
all you guys are getting depressed over these polls...why? The polls mean nothing. No were not the team we were last year and we probly have no chance at an at large bid. We got to worry about winning our conference and it starts this weekend with brown and harvard. If we get out of this weekend with two wins...we roll from there.
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Greg Berge on December 01, 2003, 10:01:48 PM
>  How long has it been since the last time we weren't ranked? Since the middle of the 2001-02 season?


11/5/01 they were out of the top 15 in the USCHO.  They remained ranked in both polls from then until 11/3/03 when they were unranked in the USA Today (I assume they were in the "mentioned," but I don't have the vote count).

2001-02: http://members.cox.net/tbrw/2002/polls/2002_poll_history.html
2002-03: http://members.cox.net/tbrw/2003/polls/2003_poll_history.html
2003-04: http://members.cox.net/tbrw/2004/polls/2004_poll_history.html



Post Edited (12-01-03 22:05)
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: gwm3 on December 01, 2003, 11:45:38 PM
QuoteOne of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:


Wow...who would've thought that, of the four teams in the Everblades Tournament, we'd be the bottom feeders?  ::nut::


No matter how good the team is, we always seem to the bottom feeders in Florida.  I believe we are are a combined 1-5 in our three appearances down there.  ::rolleyes::

Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Will on December 01, 2003, 11:50:14 PM
Quotemike wrote:

all you guys are getting depressed over these polls...why? The polls mean nothing. No were not the team we were last year and we probly have no chance at an at large bid. We got to worry about winning our conference and it starts this weekend with brown and harvard. If we get out of this weekend with two wins...we roll from there.

You have a point that I shouldn't be looking too far ahead just yet, but the polls alerted me to a startling fact--Notre Dame is 8-3-2.  Their record includes at least two things we haven't been able to do yet--win over Ohio State and Bowling Green (though they split weekend series with each).  They also have a weekend series with Western Michigan this weekend, and I'm fairly sure they'll take at least two points.  I don't know when Notre Dame started to make a splash, but now we can't underestimate them.  Not that we should underestimate any team, really, but Cornell probably won't be predicted to win anything at Everblades now. :-(

Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: JordanCS on December 02, 2003, 07:07:42 AM
Frankly, I'm surprised it took us this long to drop out of the top 15.  We aren't exactly ringing up the wins.
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: jy3 on December 02, 2003, 10:56:34 AM
i expected cornell to drop out of the top 15 last week. forget the polls, though, and get some wins, especially this weekend :-D

Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Greg Berge on December 02, 2003, 02:23:20 PM
We're in good company.  Everybody's pick for a three-peat Minnesota is below us.
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Section A on December 02, 2003, 08:43:50 PM
But while we're starting to get less votes, Minnesota is starting to get more. I watched their two games on the satellite against Michigan State and Michigan over the weekend (both road games), and they looked really impressive, and nothing at all like what people had been saying about them going into the weekend.

Anyhow, I personally don't care that we're not ranked. All I care about is that we've gotten 7 out of 8 possible ECAC points so far (Harvard, by comparison, has picked up 7 out of 14 with losses to Brown, Princeton, and Clarkson and a tie with Dartmouth) and we're looking to get 4 more this weekend. Hopefully we can get this tough stretch of games (#12 brown, harvard, #14 notre dame, #3 maine/#6 osu, harvard, #12 brown) off to a good start.
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Greg Berge on December 02, 2003, 11:10:41 PM
I can't recall a season without one NC RS game after New Year's Day.  Not even during the 25 game limit years.

For all that, I like front-loading the season with NC games, especially with this (young) team.  Helps Mike figure out what he's got out there with a minimum of damage to the league record.
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: jtwcornell91 on December 02, 2003, 11:35:52 PM
QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:

I can't recall a season without one NC RS game after New Year's Day.  Not even during the 25 game limit years.
Um, how about last season?  Or the season before that?  ::nut::

Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Greg Berge on December 03, 2003, 09:52:13 AM
Good god, this must be that "second childhood" I've heard so much about.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
Title: Re: USCHO and USA Today Polls 12-1-03
Post by: Beeeej on December 03, 2003, 11:27:21 AM
QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:
Good god, this must be that "second childhood" I've heard so much about.

Well, they do say that the memory's the second thing to go.

Beeeej