I'm on #lynah if anyone wants to comiserate about the football game.
I was almost at this game. Think I woulda helped? ::help::
QuoteGreg Berge '85 wrote:
I was almost at this game. Think I woulda helped? ::help::
Only if you can coach at the Division I-AA level. ::uhoh::
The Penn announcers were all over Pendergast last evening. They were actually quite complimentary (well, solacious) about the Red, but they had a bug up their butt about Pendergast, though they never said why.
Line of the day, out of the blue, "well, I was looking through my binoculars at the Cornell sidelines and I saw Tim filling out his resignation form." Harsh.
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[Q]Al wrote:
Only if you can coach at the Division I-AA level.[/q]I don't think any amount of positive or construction coaching for only one day could have brought the team to a win. Better coaching for a whole season? I don't know enough about football to say.
That being said, Penn scored better than their season average, as well as better than our combined opponents' season average. Cornell scored worse than their season average, as well as worse than Penn's opponents' combined season average. So, as bad as the expected difference was between the two teams (ie. the "spread"), the difference in play today was even greater. So, it's very possible that better motivation could have made an impact on the final score.
QuoteShorts '04 wrote:
That being said, Penn scored better than their season average, as well as better than our combined opponents' season average. Cornell scored worse than their season average, as well as worse than Penn's opponents' combined season average. So, as bad as the expected difference was between the two teams (ie. the "spread"), the difference in play today was even greater. So, it's very possible that better motivation could have made an impact on the final score.
I'm not a statistician, but couldn't it also be that Penn scored better than their season average against us because everybody else they've played so far this season is better than us? (Which would certainly make sense, given that we've lost to all of them?) And vice versa for our scoring?
QuoteJosh Herman '99 wrote:
I'm not a statistician, but couldn't it also be that Penn scored better than their season average against us because everybody else they've played so far this season is better than us? (Which would certainly make sense, given that we've lost to all of them?) And vice versa for our scoring?
Yeah, you'd need to do something like CCHP for Ivy football to project the score when the best team plays the worst team. (BTW, does anyone know of a machine-readable archive of college football scores, à la USCHO, from which one could construct Bradley-Terry ratings for I-A gridiron? It might provide an interesting counterpoint to BCS.)
QuoteJohn T. Whelan '91 wrote:
(BTW, does anyone know of a machine-readable archive of college football scores, à la USCHO, from which one could construct Bradley-Terry ratings for I-A gridiron? It might provide an interesting counterpoint to BCS.)
As a matter of fact, I do. Peter Wolfe maintains an archive of scores from all divisions at http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~prwolfe/cfootball/scores.htm .
I happened to be at the game yesterday in Philly, just got home a little while ago. My friends and I left when we it was 38-7, and let me tell you, it looked like an NFL team vs a really bad high school team. The interceptions and fumbles, oy, it was painful to watch. Thankfully Penn started to run the ball more in the 2nd quarter (after taking a 28-0 lead) to kill the clock, otherwise this would have been even worse.
The one positive thing is the Cornell band sounded GREAT, the Penn band (all 12 people) was horrific, and Cornell also had a good fan representation at Franklin Field. Probably split 70-30 (Penn-Cornell) in terms of fan percentage, pretty good when you're seeing the best vs one of the worst in Ivy League. Now that football is over, I'm gonna concentrate on hockey, it's way better!