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Title: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: ugarte on November 14, 2003, 07:11:23 PM
I'm stuck behind a firewall, so all updates posted here will be greatly appreciated. But not compensated.

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:14:56 PM
The game is apparently going to start a little late because of the Time Warner broadcast.  Clarkson just now taking the ice.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:17:09 PM
Cornell's starting lines
Moulson-Vesce-Bitz
Wallace-Cook
McKee
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:23:58 PM
Game is just now underway.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: skijmpr on November 14, 2003, 07:24:53 PM
That train whistle has to be one of the most annoying sounds in the world. :-P
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 07:28:44 PM
People falling all over the place early.  Bad ice maybe?
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Evan \'02 on November 14, 2003, 07:30:40 PM
Is anyone getting the game on TV? I'm not seeing it.:-/
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: skijmpr on November 14, 2003, 07:32:49 PM
Maybe the 90 mph winds up there are disrupting the signal :-D
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:32:53 PM
McKee with some good saves!  13:36 to go in the first.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 07:38:14 PM
The Clarkson announcers, usually very good, apparently didn't learn the Cornell roster before the game.

Some fat rebounds by McKee but the D clears it.



Post Edited (11-14-03 19:38)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:38:48 PM
Damn 1-0 Clarkson:-( at 9:53 of the first.



Post Edited (11-14-03 19:39)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:41:00 PM
Hooking on Moulson, PP for Clarkson
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 07:41:18 PM
1 9:53 Clk Lush 3 (unassisted)

When did Clarkson get the retarded "let's get ready to rummmmmble" announcer?  Sounds really bush league.

Now Knights on pp.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:48:42 PM
Clarkson controlling play fairly well.  About 5 minutes left in the first, still 1-0 Clarkson.  

Uh-oh, I think my monitor might be on the verge of dying.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 07:49:21 PM
As long as the speakers work...
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:51:15 PM
Yeah, I thought about that...if the monitor dies, I'll probably wait for the game to end before shutting things down.  But I'll need a new one by tomorrow night to find the SLU(t) feed.

Cornell now going on PP as Clarkson takes a hitting from behind penalty.



Post Edited (11-14-03 19:52)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:54:43 PM
Cornell's PP nearly over as Clarkson is due to go back on the PP.  Pegoraro going for tripping.  Just one minute left in the 1st.



Post Edited (11-14-03 19:55)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:56:25 PM
1st period over.

Clarkson 1 Cornell 0
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 07:59:15 PM
Other ECAC scores all after one:

SLU 1 Colgate 0
Brown 2 Yale 0
RPI 3 Vermont 0
Harvard 2 Princeton 0
Dartmouth 0 Union 0



Post Edited (11-14-03 19:59)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: atb9 on November 14, 2003, 08:00:13 PM
Lots of mullets in the crowd up at Cheel.  Glad to see the style still hasn't died in the deep North.  ::rolleyes::  I don't think one player on our team has one...

Sullivan has been getting behind our defensemen already...gotta watch out for those hail mary passes...

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: CU at Stanford on November 14, 2003, 08:02:27 PM
I give up...RealOne does not launch for me  :`(  I hope Big Red scores that tying goal in the next period!
Go Big Red!
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: ugarte on November 14, 2003, 08:03:09 PM
Thanks all.  Let's Go Red.

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Bob T on November 14, 2003, 08:04:43 PM
is this game on local cable tv??? ::screwy::

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: jnachod on November 14, 2003, 08:09:56 PM
The game is on channel 26. If you're in a Cornell dorm, you might only get up to channel 20 because Cornell does not pay for the full set of cable channels on some TVs.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:13:44 PM
2nd period underway as Cornell kills off the PP



Post Edited (11-14-03 20:13)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:16:05 PM
Clarkson takes a penalty for too many men.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:18:56 PM
Abbott (not sure which one) had a good chance, but the Clarkson sieve made the save...PP nearly over.



Post Edited (11-14-03 20:19)
Title: Cornell 1 @ Clarkson 1
Post by: skijmpr on November 14, 2003, 08:25:54 PM
SCOOOOOOORE ABBOTT!!!!

(edited to include score in subject)

(edited again to correct goal scorer - Cook w/ assist)



Post Edited (11-14-03 20:28)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:26:00 PM
Score!  1-1!
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Red Guy on November 14, 2003, 08:26:15 PM
1-1 Cook!!!!
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:28:28 PM
Cam Abbott (Cook, Hornby) at 8:44



Post Edited (11-14-03 20:29)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Red Guy on November 14, 2003, 08:28:55 PM
They gave it to abbott
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:29:50 PM
Argh...Clarkson back ahead now 2-1.  That's a momentum killer.  The Clarkson announcers said something about reviewing the goal.  Did anyone watching the game on TV see replays showing people in the crease?



Post Edited (11-14-03 20:31)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Red Guy on November 14, 2003, 08:29:57 PM
1-2.  Clarkson.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: atb9 on November 14, 2003, 08:33:25 PM
McKee tried to sweep the puck into his glove but the puck crawled underneath it.  Someone, maybe Carefoot, then tried to clear it but the puck hit a crashing Sullivan and rebounded into the net over McKee's shoulder.  Sullivan then slammed into McKee.  A horrible sequence of events...

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:34:05 PM
Age is hearing it from the Clarkson crowd as he's doing the cowbell.

Clarkson takes a penalty for interference.  Someone from Cornell got up slowly after the hit.  7:25 to go in the 2nd.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: ugarte on November 14, 2003, 08:34:09 PM
But the goal counts?

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: nyc94 on November 14, 2003, 08:34:59 PM
Keep hearing the words McKee and Rebound!! in the same sentence.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 08:35:52 PM
Just gotta keep playing our game.  We;ve sounded good the last 10-15 mins.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:41:35 PM
Lately I've been hearing the words Treylen and rebound in the same sentence.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:45:30 PM
2nd period over.

Clarkson 2 Cornell 1

Cornell showing some improvement in the 2nd, but ended the period on the penalty kill.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 08:47:26 PM
Other scores after 2:

SLU 2 Colgate 0
Brown 4 Yale 0
RPI 5 Vermont 1
Harvard 2 Princeton 0
Dartmouth 0 Union 0 (some kinda power outage problem there)



Post Edited (11-14-03 20:48)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:02:27 PM
3rd is underway
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 09:03:09 PM
Mouslon high stick, 2 -- maybe 5.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 09:03:27 PM
Only 2.  Phew.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: nyc94 on November 14, 2003, 09:04:34 PM
I just meant the audio commentary is a little more "exciting" this year than in year's past.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: nyc94 on November 14, 2003, 09:07:11 PM
Princeton 2 Harvard 2
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:14:54 PM
TIED 2-2!!!!!!!!!!:-) :-) :-)

8:04 Hornby (Cam Abbott, Chris Abbott) with the goal!



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:18)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Red Guy on November 14, 2003, 09:15:57 PM
2-2 Hornby!!!!  Nice move
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:17:25 PM
Halfway through the third now...

Sounds like the Abbotts and Hornby line is having a good night.



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:19)
Title: Harvard update
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 14, 2003, 09:18:50 PM
Ben F. reporting Princeton up 3-2 now

Title: Cornell 2 Clarkson 2, 3rd
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 09:19:06 PM
1  09:53 Clk   Lush (unassisted)
2  08:44 Cor   Cam Abbott 1 (Hornby 1, Cook 2)
2 11:33 Clk   J. Sullivan (Porter)
3  08:04 Cor   Hornby 1 (Cam Abbott 3, Chris Abbott 3)



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:19)
Title: Re: Harvard update
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 14, 2003, 09:19:45 PM
QuoteAl DeFlorio wrote:

Ben F. reporting Princeton up 3-2 now


Must be the Cornell crowd. ::nut::

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:20:43 PM
Looks like 2 Clarkson players and 1 Big Red player going to the box after a little scuffle.
Title: Re: Harvard update
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 14, 2003, 09:21:09 PM
4-2 Princeton final ::laugh::

Title: Dartmouth update
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 14, 2003, 09:23:10 PM
1-0 Dartmouth over Union

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:25:54 PM
7:30 to go in the third...still 2-2.
Title: Re: Harvard update
Post by: skijmpr on November 14, 2003, 09:28:03 PM
LOL!!! :-)

Wonder who bought the 4-pack of tickets and went to this one, must have been craziness.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:28:47 PM
Big saves by McKee!:-)

Some Clarkson player has had a shirt torn off in the scuffle after the whistle was blown.

Cook and one Clarkson player got 2 minutes for roughing.

Hynes and one Clarkson player heading for the showers.

Those were 10 minute misconducts and not game misconducts or DQ's



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:35)
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Clarkson 2, 3rd
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 09:30:25 PM
Hynes and Genovy gone.  May just be on PIM, or may be kicked out.
Title: Re: Harvard update
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 14, 2003, 09:32:48 PM
Union ties Dartmouth

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:36:31 PM
4:31 to go in the game...err regulation.



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:37)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:40:33 PM
1:52 to go.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:43:37 PM
End of regulation 2-2
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:46:59 PM
And OT is underway.  A little under the first minute will be 4-4...NHL style!
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:48:44 PM
Clarkson getting a PP...penalty is on O'Byrne!



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:49)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:51:24 PM
And Cornell kills it off...where's the equalizer!?

1:28 to go and faceoff in the Cornell end.



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:51)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:53:50 PM
Vesce with a big chance....but a save.

6 seconds to go

Cornell calling timeout.



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:54)
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Chris 02 on November 14, 2003, 09:56:15 PM
There was a shot and save.

2 seconds to go with faceoff in Clarkson end.

2-2 tie final



Post Edited (11-14-03 21:56)
Title: TV Replay
Post by: marty on November 14, 2003, 10:06:31 PM
If anyone with a line on Time Warner notices that the game is being rebroadcast especially in the other Time Warner (not central New York) areas, please start on new topic here on the forum.

Last year they did rebroadcast in Albany.

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Greg Berge on November 14, 2003, 10:13:12 PM
Nice job by Cornell to pick up a tough point at Cheel.  One more game to go on the killer opening 4-game conference road trip.  Afterwards, 7 of their next 9 ECAC games are at Lynah, and over a 14-game stretch they have 2 on the road, 2 in Florida... and 10 at home.



Post Edited (11-14-03 22:15)
Title: Re: TV Replay
Post by: ice the puck on November 14, 2003, 10:32:57 PM
I called time-warner, albany... no broadcast available. may get cstv after first of year.  offer empire, but that only carries hockey east etc, no ecac
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson post-game analysis help
Post by: min on November 14, 2003, 11:57:38 PM
i just read tonite's game summary on uscho. coach schafer was quoted with the following statement:

"We sleptwalked," Schafer said. "I was more disappointed in a Cornell hockey team than I've been for quite some time."

i wasn't able to listen to the game, so did the team play that poorly tonite to merit such assessment? or did the team play well enough to earn a tough point on the road? or is the truth somewhere in between?

any opinions?

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson post-game analysis help
Post by: rhovorka on November 15, 2003, 01:29:59 AM
Even more cryptic is how the game report ends:
[Q]Throughout the third, Schafer mixed up the lines, partly because forward Dan Pegoraro left the game late in the second period.

"There was a necessity to find nine to 10 guys that wanted to actually work hard consistently," Schafer said. "When you don't have four lines willing to go ... you have to shuffle things up for people to start to produce."[/Q]
1) What happened to Pegoraro?  2) Read between the lines of the last paragraph and it sounds like someone was benched for lack of effort.  3) Are the 2 related?
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson post-game analysis help
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 15, 2003, 01:30:21 AM
Quotemin '97 wrote:
i just read tonite's game summary on uscho. coach schafer was quoted with the following statement:

"We sleptwalked," Schafer said. "I was more disappointed in a Cornell hockey team than I've been for quite some time."

i wasn't able to listen to the game, so did the team play that poorly tonite to merit such assessment? or did the team play well enough to earn a tough point on the road? or is the truth somewhere in between?

any opinions?
Well, the team didn't look significantly different than they did against WMU. If they were much better last weekend, then maybe Schafer has a point - seeing as I only heard part of each game last weekend, it's hard to judge.

My hunch is that Schafer is honestly disappointed compared to what he saw last week, since he knows the team can do better, and he might be exagerrating the point to light a fire under them. Just a hunch.
Title: Re: TV Replay
Post by: marty on November 15, 2003, 09:15:30 AM
But again as my post notes, last year they did a rebroadcast with no publicity on the local access channels.  So we have to keep our eyes open!
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson post-game analysis help
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 15, 2003, 09:35:28 AM
QuoteDeltaOne81 '03 wrote:
My hunch is that Schafer is honestly disappointed compared to what he saw last week, since he knows the team can do better, and he might be exagerrating the point to light a fire under them. Just a hunch.
I suspect your hunch is correct.  This is a well one must be careful not to draw from too often, however.

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: rsafploc 03 on November 15, 2003, 10:17:07 AM
In all honesty, I think it was quite apparent that Clarkson came out to play hockey last night. They were faster than our guys to loose pucks, were able to exert more control at the boards. They were also able to cycle the puck in deep to mount loads of pressure on our d which was something I'm sure all of us aren't really used to. I think alot of that were due to some guys on the ice being half a step slower than clarkson, leading to quite a lot of positional advantage for clarkson. Lotsa good things happened with the Hornby Abbotts line tho.. And it was good to note that our first line finally gelled in the last period and in OT for some great chances. Just my amateurish 2 cents.. But if this is the way Clarkson plays.. I'm happy for them too.. They look like a much improved squad from last year.

Title: It is Schafer's Team
Post by: Scott Goldsmith \'96 on November 15, 2003, 10:53:10 AM
Schafer can do what he wants as far as sitting players.  I don't know if there is any connection between how Pegoraro played last week and this week, but I thought he looked sluggish last week when I watched him.  So this may be something that has been brewing for awhile.  

Last year at the end of the year, Pegoraro looked very quick on the ice.  He looked like he was carrying bricks on his back in the Princeton game.
Title: Re: CU - Clarkson post-game analysis help
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 15, 2003, 11:26:31 AM
QuoteRich H '96 wrote:

Even more cryptic is how the game report ends:
[Q]Throughout the third, Schafer mixed up the lines, partly because forward Dan Pegoraro left the game late in the second period.

"There was a necessity to find nine to 10 guys that wanted to actually work hard consistently," Schafer said. "When you don't have four lines willing to go ... you have to shuffle things up for people to start to produce."[/Q]
1) What happened to Pegoraro?
A still-cryptic quote from Saturday's Ithaca Journal:  "Cornell forward Daniel Pegoraro did not play and was not on the bench during the third period and the overtime."

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson post-game analysis help
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 15, 2003, 10:57:04 PM
QuoteAl DeFlorio wrote:
QuoteDeltaOne81 '03 wrote:
My hunch is that Schafer is honestly disappointed compared to what he saw last week, since he knows the team can do better, and he might be exagerrating the point to light a fire under them. Just a hunch.
I suspect your hunch is correct.  This is a well one must be careful not to draw from too often, however.
A certain coach who had quite a lot of success at Cheel comes to mind.

But I see the sense of sending the message early that the team can't be content with ties, rebuilding year or not.  (I can't say I mind this one very much.)

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson post-game analysis help
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 15, 2003, 11:08:03 PM
QuoteJohn T. Whelan '91 wrote:

QuoteAl DeFlorio wrote:
QuoteDeltaOne81 '03 wrote:
My hunch is that Schafer is honestly disappointed compared to what he saw last week, since he knows the team can do better, and he might be exagerrating the point to light a fire under them. Just a hunch.
I suspect your hunch is correct.  This is a well one must be careful not to draw from too often, however.
A certain coach who had quite a lot of success at Cheel comes to mind.

But I see the sense of sending the message early that the team can't be content with ties, rebuilding year or not.  (I can't say I mind this one very much.)

And I didn't say I minded it one bit, either.  But I've seen it overdone, and John cites a recent example.  Happened at Cornell not that long ago, too.

Title: Re: CU - Clarkson updates
Post by: Will on November 16, 2003, 02:15:23 AM
I just got back into town from the North Country an hour ago.  My analysis of this game can be summed up in one sentence: Clarkson was faster than expected, and Cornell was slower than expected/desired.  That's what made the difference in the end.  Our boys are really going to need to work harder to shut the Knights down when they come to Lynah in February.