1. On Wisconsin!
2. Go Pio!
3. Fuck Bristol!
Should have skipped the warm ups, Stereax! It's effing louder than Albany. Our seats are vibrating.
Coverage still has not kicked in on streaming.
My mistake. It's on The Deuce, I have ESPN+, so I'm locked out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mets it is.
2-0 Wisco after 1.
Halfway through the third, still 2-0 Badgers. Outshooting the Sioux 35-19 despite NoDak leading in shot attempts 56-53.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 07:23:36 PMHalfway through the third, still 2-0 Badgers. Outshooting the Sioux 35-19 despite NoDak leading in shot attempts 56-53.
And I thought we were the gang that can't shoot straight
Quote from: scoop85 on April 09, 2026, 07:26:31 PMQuote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 07:23:36 PMHalfway through the third, still 2-0 Badgers. Outshooting the Sioux 35-19 despite NoDak leading in shot attempts 56-53.
And I thought we were the gang that can't shoot straight
Might be blocked shots, can't tell.
Badgers win, 2-1.
Quote from: marty on April 09, 2026, 04:46:04 PMShould have skipped the warm ups, Stereax! It's effing louder than Albany. Our seats are vibrating.
Vegas is a horrible place to watch a hockey game.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 09, 2026, 08:08:06 PMQuote from: marty on April 09, 2026, 04:46:04 PMShould have skipped the warm ups, Stereax! It's effing louder than Albany. Our seats are vibrating.
Vegas is a horrible place to watch a hockey game.
Horrible place to listen to warm-ups. Hitting a high as 89dB according to my phone.
I like the arena but haven't much to compare it to.
Quote from: marty on April 09, 2026, 04:46:04 PMShould have skipped the warm ups, Stereax! It's effing louder than Albany. Our seats are vibrating.
Woof... who decides this?!?
Oh shit, Hicks
Great box-out by Robertson on the game-tying goal lmao
I'm sure BL is overjoyed as Ben Robertson gets outmuscled in front of the net, allowing Denver to tie it up on a tip with just over two minutes left in the third.
Tied with 2 to go...
Quote from: sah67 on April 09, 2026, 11:11:08 PMAnd who else but Ben Robertson gets outmuscled front of the net, allowing Denver to tie it up on a tip with just over two minutes left in the third.
Veilleux would never.
Quote from: BearLover on April 09, 2026, 11:10:07 PMGreat box-out by Robertson on the game-tying goal lmao
glad to see it wasn't just me like "he fucked that one, right?"
Denver ties it at 3 with 2:30 left. The Denver player who Robertson was battling around the crease made a beautiful tip for the goal.
EDIT: I see a gleeful BL was the 1st to post that fact :-)
Going to OT
Michigan looks clearly better and will probably win the national championship, but that was funny
Quote from: BearLover on April 09, 2026, 11:24:49 PMMichigan looks clearly better and will probably win the national championship, but that was funny
You can take the man out of Cornell 😅
2OT.
No beer sales in OT. "Fans" begin to thin out.
We don't have an emcee, we have two.
Dylan Duke hitting the door to make sure it stays shut. Lmao.
Quote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:42:08 AMDylan Duke hitting the door to make sure it stays shut. Lmao.
Tyler Duke, Dylan is long gone from college
Quote from: chimpfood on April 10, 2026, 12:45:52 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:42:08 AMDylan Duke hitting the door to make sure it stays shut. Lmao.
Tyler Duke, Dylan is long gone from college
Fuck, I forgot 😅 you're right
Quote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:46:55 AMQuote from: chimpfood on April 10, 2026, 12:45:52 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:42:08 AMDylan Duke hitting the door to make sure it stays shut. Lmao.
Tyler Duke, Dylan is long gone from college
Fuck, I forgot 😅 you're right
Just wait till you hear about Luca Fantilli
Another Michigan failure. 1998 is a long time ago
0-10 in Frozen Four trips since then.
GREAT news for lovers of bears...
Quote from: chimpfood on April 10, 2026, 12:47:31 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:46:55 AMQuote from: chimpfood on April 10, 2026, 12:45:52 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:42:08 AMDylan Duke hitting the door to make sure it stays shut. Lmao.
Tyler Duke, Dylan is long gone from college
Fuck, I forgot 😅 you're right
Just wait till you hear about Luca Fantilli
I have a friend who is obsessed with Luca Fantilli.
I get it.
Pop the champagne.
"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
Quote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 12:52:16 AMPop the champagne.
And if Denver wins it all, we can say we lost to the champs.
Quote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Quote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Notably, though, he also gets plenty of blue chippers.
Quote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Absolutely. Gets crazy value out of his guys. Could stand to take a page out of his book.
Quote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 12:58:04 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Notably, though, he also gets plenty of blue chippers.
Besides Zeev Buium, does he have any veritable bluechippers to his name? Like, I guess Pohlkamp?
Quote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 01:00:17 AMQuote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 12:58:04 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Notably, though, he also gets plenty of blue chippers.
Besides Zeev Buium, does he have any veritable bluechippers to his name? Like, I guess Pohlkamp?
If you limit "blue chippers" to just first round picks, then Denver hasn't had many. But they are regularly loaded with early and mid round picks. This year, BU is the only program in the country with more drafted players.
Quote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 01:34:15 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 01:00:17 AMQuote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 12:58:04 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Notably, though, he also gets plenty of blue chippers.
Besides Zeev Buium, does he have any veritable bluechippers to his name? Like, I guess Pohlkamp?
If you limit "blue chippers" to just first round picks, then Denver hasn't had many. But they are regularly loaded with early and mid round picks. This year, BU is the only program in the country with more drafted players.
I usually think bluechippers are first and second round guys. Occasionally later round guys too if they've got something special about 'em that looks NHL translatable generally to a top six/top four role (especially if they fell in the draft because of things like height). Like Cole Hutson is a bluechipper (2nd round), Max Plante (2nd round).
This was the final I wanted.
Blue chippah is top 50 to me.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 03:55:59 PM1. On Wisconsin!
2. Go Pio!
3. Fuck Bristol!
Quote from: marty on April 09, 2026, 08:09:49 PMHorrible place to listen to warm-ups. Hitting a high as 89dB according to my phone.
I like the arena but haven't much to compare it to.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 03:55:59 PM1. On Wisconsin!
2. Go Pio!
3. Fuck Bristol!
Bristol Palin?
Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 03:55:59 PM1. On Wisconsin!
2. Go Pio!
3. Fuck Bristol!
The best scenario for own emotional wellness is Denver wins it all. The worst is that Michigan wins its second NCAA big-time title in the week and the Big Ten gets an even more inflated ego. Wisconsin winning is okay because they have incredible fans and they don't win that much outside basketball. And hockey. They sent something like 25 buses of students to Boston Garden for the 1973 NCAAs (doesn't matter to most but it's a vivid memory to me, as was feeling the press box sway after each Badger goal; it is suspended out over the front of the balcony and there is some flex in the metal beams). This was the semifinal game we were up 4-0 on on the Badgers, 5-2 at the start of the third, 5-4 with 5 seconds to play, and lost in OT. Also they're not Ohio State or Michigan. Or soon to be: Penn State. They are pouring money into sports.
It would be nice to say as we recall 2025-26 a decade down the road, that in the NCAAs were lost only to the eventual champion. So, go Pios.
We also lost to eventual national champion Denver in 2024.
Wisconsin is having a very good year. They also had very good years in 2020-21 and 2023-24.
In 2019-20, 21-22, 22-23, and 24-25, they were complete ass.
Pick a lane, Wisconsin.
Quote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:58:24 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Absolutely. Gets crazy value out of his guys. Could stand to take a page out of his book.
Pohlkamp, for example, was a 5th rounder who is now a 1st round talent.
Quote from: scoop85 on April 10, 2026, 12:47:24 PMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:58:24 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Absolutely. Gets crazy value out of his guys. Could stand to take a page out of his book.
Pohlkamp, for example, was a 5th rounder who is now a 1st round talent.
Denver poached Pohlkamp in the transfer portal after he was already one of the best defensemen in the country at Bemidji. It's true Denver isn't getting many first rounders, which is interesting given they get as many 2-4th rounders as anybody.
I know there are lots of mixed feelings here about Michigan, but I have so many friends and colleagues who're absolutely devoted to UM that I was rooting for them last night. Plus, Cornell '25 daughter's bf is a Michigan man and good kid. That said, I've grown to dislike Denver enormously going back to 86 for me. That said, I have enormous respect for the way Carle works and conducts himself and how incredibly clutch the Pios seem to be. Very impressive team and program. The wee goalie is ridiculous. And I thought Shane was tiny! Reminds me of that tiny goalie Michigan had years ago-Hunwick iirc. Tough call for the final. No real heel in this one for my money. Both deserved champions, as would have Michigan.
Trying to be objective here - my thoughts watching the last three periods (third, OT, 2OT).
I was surprised Michigan didn't play Robertson on the PP, instead going with five forwards. They have the most talented forwards in the country so I suppose they wanted them all on the ice at once. They did use Robertson on 4x4.
I thought Robertson struggled defensively, including failing to tie up the scorer of the late tying goal. He also had some trouble clearing the zone. Though there were few shifts where Denver had sustained o-zone time, several of those were with him on the ice.
Robertson also made a couple nice passes offensively.
Overall his night was quiet; the announcers barely said his name. Which is usually good for a defenseman but not an offensive defenseman like Robertson.
BearLover's verdict: he's a good college player but seems to have peaked. Skilled offensively, smaller and not physical enough defensively. I don't think he has much of a shot at an NHL career. Still, if he and Bancroft had returned this season, we would right now be one win away from our first national championship since 1970.
Quote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 01:19:42 PMTrying to be objective here - my thoughts watching the last three periods (third, OT, 2OT).
I was surprised Michigan didn't play Robertson on the PP, instead going with five forwards. They have the most talented forwards in the country so I suppose they wanted them all on the ice at once. They did use Robertson on 4x4.
I thought Robertson struggled defensively, including failing to tie up the scorer of the late tying goal. He also had some trouble clearing the zone. Though there were few shifts where Denver had sustained o-zone time, several of those were with him on the ice.
Looked like he struggled with the speed
Robertson also made a couple nice passes offensively.
Overall his night was quiet; the announcers barely said his name. Which is usually good for a defenseman but not an offensive defenseman like Robertson.
BearLover's verdict: he's a good college player but seems to have peaked. Skilled offensively, smaller and not physical enough defensively. I don't think he has much of a shot at an NHL career. Still, if he and Bancroft had returned this season, we would right now be one win away from our first national championship since 1970.
Quote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 12:59:47 PMQuote from: scoop85 on April 10, 2026, 12:47:24 PMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:58:24 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Absolutely. Gets crazy value out of his guys. Could stand to take a page out of his book.
Pohlkamp, for example, was a 5th rounder who is now a 1st round talent.
Denver poached Pohlkamp in the transfer portal after he was already one of the best defensemen in the country at Bemidji. It's true Denver isn't getting many first rounders, which is interesting given they get as many 2-4th rounders as anybody.
True, he didn't start with Denver. The epitome of a late bloomer.
Regarding Carle, I see a lot of similarities with Connor Buczek. College stars who became HC's at their Alma Maters at a young age and quickly rose to be among the top college coaches in their sport. Both recruit at a high level (mid-round picks for Carle, 4* guys for Buczek), but don't always bring in the most elite talent (CJ Kirst being an exception for us). The guys they recruit though, typically exceed their pre-college projections. And both guys are excellent in-game coaches who seem to usually push the right buttons.
Quote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 01:19:42 PMTrying to be objective here - my thoughts watching the last three periods BearLover's verdict: he's a good college player but seems to have peaked. Skilled offensively, smaller and not physical enough defensively. I don't think he has much of a shot at an NHL career. Still, if he and Bancroft had returned this season, we would right now be one win away from our first national championship since 1970.
I think you're overstating the case. While we surely we would've had a better shot, given how thoroughly outplayed we were by Denver I have a hard time envisioning those two guys making enough of a difference against any of the elite teams we might have faced.
Quote from: scoop85 on April 10, 2026, 01:55:53 PMQuote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 01:19:42 PMTrying to be objective here - my thoughts watching the last three periods BearLover's verdict: he's a good college player but seems to have peaked. Skilled offensively, smaller and not physical enough defensively. I don't think he has much of a shot at an NHL career. Still, if he and Bancroft had returned this season, we would right now be one win away from our first national championship since 1970.
I think you're overstating the case. While we surely we would've had a better shot, given how thoroughly outplayed we were by Denver I have a hard time envisioning those two guys making enough of a difference against any of the elite teams we might have faced.
That last part was tongue-in-cheek BL. I mostly agree with you. In fact, it's hard to imagine us stacking up against any of Michigan, NoDak, Denver. But Wisconsin, who seems quite a bit worse, is in the title game, so you never know.
Quote from: arugula on April 10, 2026, 01:06:09 PMI know there are lots of mixed feelings here about Michigan, but I have so many friends and colleagues who're absolutely devoted to UM that I was rooting for them last night. Plus, Cornell '25 daughter's bf is a Michigan man and good kid. That said, I've grown to dislike Denver enormously going back to 86 for me. That said, I have enormous respect for the way Carle works and conducts himself and how incredibly clutch the Pios seem to be. Very impressive team and program.
I have always liked Denver.
+ OG tradition
+ Longtime Cornell dance partner
+ Tiny school slaying gargantuan factory vampires
+ Great sweaters
+ Liberal arts oasis in the engineering death desert
+ Beautiful city
St. Lawrence if they won. Harvard if they weren't cunts. What's not to love?
When Michigan was ahead last night I found myself thinking "but at least they suck at lacrosse."
Fortunately, I don't have to deal with two Michigan championships, never mind three.
And to add, Wisconsin's fans were pretty classy after our match in Green Bay. That's not always the case for fans in the Big 10.
Quote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 02:02:19 PMQuote from: scoop85 on April 10, 2026, 01:55:53 PMQuote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 01:19:42 PMTrying to be objective here - my thoughts watching the last three periods BearLover's verdict: he's a good college player but seems to have peaked. Skilled offensively, smaller and not physical enough defensively. I don't think he has much of a shot at an NHL career. Still, if he and Bancroft had returned this season, we would right now be one win away from our first national championship since 1970.
I think you're overstating the case. While we surely we would've had a better shot, given how thoroughly outplayed we were by Denver I have a hard time envisioning those two guys making enough of a difference against any of the elite teams we might have faced.
That last part was tongue-in-cheek BL. I mostly agree with you. In fact, it's hard to imagine us stacking up against any of Michigan, NoDak, Denver. But Wisconsin, who seems quite a bit worse, is in the title game, so you never know.
Wisconsin is like the 24-25 Big Red in March. Got REALLY hot at the right time. Helps that they got the first-round bye against Dartmouth (only half-joking), but both the MSU and NoDak games show that they're not frauds, either.
Mostly agree, except its not a tiny school-12,000 students-smaller than Michigan or Wisconsin sure. I just don't like anyone who's beaten us in multiple big games. Beautiful city. Respect for sure.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 10, 2026, 03:22:07 PMWhen Michigan was ahead last night I found myself thinking "but at least they suck at lacrosse."
Fortunately, I don't have to deal with two Michigan championships, never mind three.
And to add, Wisconsin's fans were pretty classy after our match in Green Bay. That's not always the case for fans in the Big 10.
I was at the Giants-Green Bay Ice Bowl game in 2008. Green Bay fans were so great
Plus, Wisconsin has a lot in common culturally with central NY.
And don't get me wrong, Michigan is probably my favorite B10 school (nudging out Bucky). Academically good, they care about hockey enough to steal our chants & culture, enemy of Ohio. I just think their futility in the FF despite their perceived superiority is reaching comedic levels and get lots of pleasure from it for no reason.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 05:02:36 PMCoverage still has not kicked in on streaming.
My mistake. It's on The Deuce, I have ESPN+, so I'm locked out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mets it is.
When I was downgrading my Disney+ bundle, I noticed there were packages that included full ESPN access for an extra $20/month. So at least one doesn't need to get fake cable, but still, fuck that.
Quote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 06:29:04 PMPlus, Wisconsin has a lot in common culturally with central NY.
Drinking?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 10, 2026, 03:22:07 PMWhen Michigan was ahead last night I found myself thinking "but at least they suck at lacrosse."
Short memories around here ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nToUnRm_Nbo
Quote from: CU77 on April 10, 2026, 07:11:20 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 10, 2026, 03:22:07 PMWhen Michigan was ahead last night I found myself thinking "but at least they suck at lacrosse."
Short memories around here ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nToUnRm_Nbo
They're 4-7 this year with games left against Penn State and Ohio State. That's enough for me.
Quote from: jtwcornell91 on April 10, 2026, 06:56:02 PMQuote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 05:02:36 PMCoverage still has not kicked in on streaming.
My mistake. It's on The Deuce, I have ESPN+, so I'm locked out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mets it is.
When I was downgrading my Disney+ bundle, I noticed there were packages that included full ESPN access for an extra $20/month. So at least one doesn't need to get fake cable, but still, fuck that.
So buy it for a month?
Haven't watched the replay because I visited the Hoover Dam instead but...
3 of the 4 goals Denver scored against us before we pulled Courns were deflections. Were any of their goals in Thursday deflected in?
Natty time!
This is truly a Powerplay of All Time by Denver.
Wisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.
Quote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:01:18 PMWisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.
Have to shoot high on him.
Quote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:02:46 PMQuote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:01:18 PMWisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.
Have to shoot high on him.
Should also note that while I love that Buccigross uses his platform to promote cawlidge hawkey, he is an idiot.
Quote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:04:34 PMQuote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:02:46 PMQuote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:01:18 PMWisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.
Have to shoot high on him.
Should also note that while I love that Buccigross uses his platform to promote cawlidge hawkey, he is an idiot.
As BU friend calls him, "sex pest Buccigross". (https://apnews.com/espn-reaches-settlement-on-harassment-lawsuit-c2cd14d8add061ec9abc9fcaf0ed2efb)
Sooo. Is Denver gonna show up at any point today?
Quote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:31:14 PMSooo. Is Denver gonna show up at any point today?
But Denver is comfortable playing from behind and on their heels. Or so the announcers keep saying over and over.
On a serious note, I wonder if they could be a little tired after the double OT game.
Quote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:04:34 PMQuote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:02:46 PMQuote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:01:18 PMWisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.
Have to shoot high on him.
Should also note that while I love that Buccigross uses his platform to promote cawlidge hawkey, he is an idiot.
Buccigross promotes Buccigross.
Quote from: marty on April 10, 2026, 10:10:47 PMQuote from: jtwcornell91 on April 10, 2026, 06:56:02 PMQuote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 05:02:36 PMCoverage still has not kicked in on streaming.
My mistake. It's on The Deuce, I have ESPN+, so I'm locked out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mets it is.
When I was downgrading my Disney+ bundle, I noticed there were packages that included full ESPN access for an extra $20/month. So at least one doesn't need to get fake cable, but still, fuck that.
So buy it for a month?
If we had still been playing, I probably would have, but I don't want to shell out $20 just to watch the Battle of the Western Power Conferences.
Quote from: cth95 on April 11, 2026, 06:52:09 PMQuote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:31:14 PMSooo. Is Denver gonna show up at any point today?
But Denver is comfortable playing from behind and on their heels. Or so the announcers keep saying over and over.
On a serious note, I wonder if they could be a little tired after the double OT game.
Carle says no...
During the intermission report, they're being Nice To Malinski again. Apparently he was asked who he was rooting for in the natty, especially as a "Cornell alum" whose team lost to Denver, and he responded immediately that he was rooting for Denver... because as a Minnesotan, he hates Wisconsin more than Denver 😂
TIE GAME
Quote from: jtwcornell91 on April 11, 2026, 06:53:00 PMQuote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:04:34 PMQuote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:02:46 PMQuote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:01:18 PMWisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.
Have to shoot high on him.
Should also note that while I love that Buccigross uses his platform to promote cawlidge hawkey, he is an idiot.
Buccigross promotes Buccigross.
And there's more nuance to calling a game well than just screaming "SHOT" 800 times.
SOMETHING. SOMETHING. ROPE A DOPE. DENVER UP 2-1.
Quote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 07:49:40 PMSOMETHING. SOMETHING. ROPE A DOPE. DENVER UP 2-1.
While I respect Denver I hate injustice. Denver winning these games is unjust and undeserved.
Quote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 07:51:07 PMQuote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 07:49:40 PMSOMETHING. SOMETHING. ROPE A DOPE. DENVER UP 2-1.
While I respect Denver I hate injustice. Denver winning these games is unjust and undeserved.
Have you considered:
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Quote from: RichH on April 11, 2026, 07:43:41 PMQuote from: jtwcornell91 on April 11, 2026, 06:53:00 PMQuote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:04:34 PMQuote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:02:46 PMQuote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:01:18 PMWisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.
Have to shoot high on him.
Should also note that while I love that Buccigross uses his platform to promote cawlidge hawkey, he is an idiot.
Buccigross promotes Buccigross.
And there's more nuance to calling a game well than just screaming "SHOT" 800 times.
And. A. Color. Guy. Who PUNCTUATES. HIS. WORDS. because THIS. IS. IMPORTANT.
ELEVENVER
Denver: why play 60 minutes of hockey when 20 minutes does the trick?
Somehow "we lost to the champ" is less consoling when it was a 5-0 woodshedding.....
Quote from: Robb on April 11, 2026, 08:26:46 PMSomehow "we lost to the champ" is less consoling when it was a 5-0 woodshedding.....
Hey we'll all forget it in like, 3 years
Quote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 08:27:23 PMQuote from: Robb on April 11, 2026, 08:26:46 PMSomehow "we lost to the champ" is less consoling when it was a 5-0 woodshedding.....
Hey we'll all forget it in like, 3 years
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Congratulations again to the team of the 2020s (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_History/ncaa_Champion_Icon.htm).
Quote from: Trotsky on April 11, 2026, 08:50:37 PMCongratulations again to the team of the 2020s (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_History/ncaa_Champion_Icon.htm).
And to the team that knocked them out in 2023.
This year really shows how anyone can win the tourney. Both Wisconsin and Denver weren't one seeds and needed miracle goals at some point to send games to OT and save their seasons. Just keep making the tourney and this will be us one year.
Tough one for the Wisconsin goalie. He lost his stick trying to go side to side, and was stickless for the GWG.
And on that note, has strategy changed and it's no longer in vogue for a defenseman to give their stick to a goalie who has lost his? I haven't watched a replay but it felt like a really long time between when he lost his stick and when Denver scored.
McNally from Vegas. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2026/04/12_The-Neverending-Story.php) Great story as always!
Quote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 12:59:47 PMQuote from: scoop85 on April 10, 2026, 12:47:24 PMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:58:24 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Absolutely. Gets crazy value out of his guys. Could stand to take a page out of his book.
Pohlkamp, for example, was a 5th rounder who is now a 1st round talent.
Denver poached Pohlkamp in the transfer portal after he was already one of the best defensemen in the country at Bemidji. It's true Denver isn't getting many first rounders, which is interesting given they get as many 2-4th rounders as anybody.
Indeed. And no one should listen to anything David Carle says about crying poverty about Denver. They are about two get a massive 1st rounder, and perhaps another top-5 pick. And because of their money, they can retain anyone they want - including players who may be 4th liners looking to leave - who will then become future 2nd liners.
Quote from: adamw on April 13, 2026, 02:30:14 PMQuote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 12:59:47 PMQuote from: scoop85 on April 10, 2026, 12:47:24 PMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:58:24 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Absolutely. Gets crazy value out of his guys. Could stand to take a page out of his book.
Pohlkamp, for example, was a 5th rounder who is now a 1st round talent.
Denver poached Pohlkamp in the transfer portal after he was already one of the best defensemen in the country at Bemidji. It's true Denver isn't getting many first rounders, which is interesting given they get as many 2-4th rounders as anybody.
Indeed. And no one should listen to anything David Carle says about crying poverty about Denver. They are about two get a massive 1st rounder, and perhaps another top-5 pick. And because of their money, they can retain anyone they want - including players who may be 4th liners looking to leave - who will then become future 2nd liners.
It almost seems to me that the Ivy's are definitely strongly disadvantaged
since there is no financial incentive.
Am I totally off base on this assumption? Someone please enlighten me.
Beeeej TravelogueIn order to have any reasonable portion of Wednesday remaining after landing in Vegas, we had to get in an Uber to JFK at two in the morning. Isaac was a champ, wheeling his own carry-on around the airport in his Batman pajamas, but he didn't sleep much more on the flight, instead charming the pants off the entire plane as he walked up and down the aisle to burn energy. We were sharing a hotel suite with an old friend/fraternity brother of mine who was also landing first thing in the morning - so naturally when we arrived after going to the trouble of getting there early, the room wasn't ready yet. But it was ready by the time our take-out lunch was ready at the pool bar. Note to the kitchen: Double cheeseburgers should have their top buns applied before you close the take-out containers (duh). A hot afternoon splashing around in the pool, a shopping trip to Walgreens, additional groceries Uber Eatsed from Target (we always strive for full kitchens in our Vegas hotel rooms so that we can cook our breakfasts instead of spending $50-100 every morning), and Greek food delivered for dinner, and we somehow got a reasonable night's sleep.
A warm morning splashing around in the pool and some time on the phone with Security at T-Mobile Arena to be sure we could bring Isaac's potty backpack in with us, a slightly shorter "recharge" (read: nap) than usual, and we were at the first semifinal. I wish I'd known
marty was going to be there, as I could've made a point of saying hi in person, but then again I didn't make much effort myself to ask in this space whether anyone else was going. That said, he was absolutely right - the sound levels were deafeningly insane, and thank goodness we had Isaac's headphones on him (and even then, we ended up supplementing with a pair of actual earplugs underneath, and he
still asked to be taken to a quieter space a few times each game). Piped in music at every possible second of game stoppage (with rare interjections by the bands) is bad enough when it's not making your ears bleed - I seriously do not understand why they think it has to be so loud, but if the NCAA is genuinely after a family-friendly atmosphere this was a major failure on their part. (I think people must have complained after Thursday, since the volume was merely
obnoxious on Saturday, as opposed to legitimately dangerous.)
Just as with MSG back in November, it took Isaac over a period to really warm up, but once he did, he was bouncing, dancing, chanting - definitely loving the fact that we were watching another team whose fans yell, "Let's Go Red!" But he also switched to "Let's Go Blue!" for the second semi, even adding "Let's Go Yellow!" of his own accord. I was really proud of myself when I grabbed sixth-row seats on the goal line back in October, but that was before I knew I was going to need the Revision surgery rather than having fully recovered from the original Knee Replacement - let's just say that was a fuckload of stairs to climb and descend several times a game with a knee in pain, a cane, and a toddler. Luckily the people in our section were patient with our comings and goings with Isaac (it helped that he charmed the pants off of most of them, too). And thank goodness for having a Family restroom mere yards away from the top of our section - but last week's Jackhole of the Week award goes collectively to every drunk asshole who decided that the Family restroom was a good way to skip the line and made me wait with my toddler to get in there while he somehow held his pee better than grown men.
The first semi was a fun game to watch, I just wish North Dakota had shown up to enjoy it as well. Wisco continued a great Cinderella story that began with them ungratefully spanking their NPI benefactors in the first round. NoDak barely made it interesting with the EAG, they really just were never in it. Isaac kept seeing NoDak's "fighting hawk" mascot then looking around a few minutes later and asking, "Where the pigeon go??" ;D
We spent the time between games hanging out in the vomitorium, partly because it was quieter, partly to meet up with another friend. One of dss28's closest friends, her roommate when she and I met, lives with her husband and daughter (almost exactly a year older than Isaac) in Medellín, but her husband still attends the Frozen Four every year with his father and brother, and the three of them graciously made their way all the way around from the other side (next to the NoDak band) to say hi and get photos. Friend and husband also still have a house in Baltimore, though - so we're subtly working on them to bring the whole family to the Frozen Four in DC next year instead of just the husband.
The second semi was more fun to watch in some ways but also tougher on Isaac because of the cumulative effect of the insane noise levels, the sort of sitting still, and the rapidly advancing hour. That said, he also enjoyed popcorn for the first time and got to talk about the puck going in the goal more times than in the first game. Honestly, dss28 and I were blown away by him making it all the way through two full games and the time in between - then somehow he also made it through the first OT, at least more or less. At that point we just couldn't do it to him anymore, and dss28 graciously took the hit to bring him back to the hotel. They turned on the TV literally thirty seconds before the GWG, so Isaac was happy he got to see it before night-night.
Friday was lots more time at the pool, Masters golf on TV, late lunch at Beer Park on the roof at Paris (again, very loud music - outdoors, in the middle of the day, while people are supposedly trying to eat, drink, and converse - did I really spend so little time away from the poker tables on my past trips, or has the atmosphere in Vegas just gotten that much more obnoxious?), hanging out with an old friend who now runs a sports massage business in the area and lives in Henderson with his wife and daughter.
Saturday morning brunch at Bardot Brasserie in the Aria, with another friend/fraternity brother who's been in Vegas for the better part of forty years, except for Cornell and law school in the middle, and is lead labor counsel for the Wynn organization. Met his girlfriend of three years for the first time (like other area friends, the last we'd seen him was Cornell hockey at T-Mobile in January, 2020), we highly approve, and we had lots of recommendations for their upcoming river cruise from Amsterdam to Basel since we did a similar cruise in the reverse direction with my parents almost seven years ago. Back to the hotel for another abbreviated recharge, and off to the natty, where we ran into
adamw on our way from the merch table (Michigan shirt for my brother) to our seats and got to catch up with him for a few minutes - again, for the first time in person since the last Cornell hockey at T-Mobile.
It seemed like Wisco was controlling play again for most of the game, but Denver managed to show up for an entire period at the end instead of a few minutes, and that seems to have been the difference. Like I said it wasn't AS loud as the semis, but it was still pretty bad, and Isaac had to take a few breaks. He appreciated the teams saying "night night" to each other at the end, and how many fans stuck around to say their goodbyes to their teams as well. With as many people as there were pouring out of the arena afterward there's no way we were going to get a cab or an Uber, so we walked, and took advantage of stumbling across an Earl of Sandwich in the Miracle Mile shops for dinner. We thought we were getting together that night with yet another old friend (we met her and her then-husband on our honeymoon cruise), but her evening just got too complicated.
Sort of same plan in reverse for Sunday - we didn't want to lose the entire day, so we booked a later flight even though we knew we'd get home extremely late. I spent a lot of the morning in the pool with Isaac while dss28 started the packing process, we had an easy, breezy experience at the airport (I'm told that the hotels/casinos heavily subsidized the local TSA agents while they weren't being paid, in order to ensure LAS wouldn't have the same problems other airports were having), and there were "equipment problems" that delayed the start of our boarding until - miraculously - a few minutes after we'd watched Rory McIlroy close out his Masters repeat live. JFK is an absolute mess during construction - we had a LOT of crap with us including car seat and collapsible (but heavy) stroller, and we had to walk the better part of a mile to get to the taxi line on the ground level of the parking garage for terminal 5. In order to get an Uber, we'd have had to take the AirTrain to the Howard Beach stop, and at 1am and with a toddler there's no way in hell we're attempting that, much less spending the extra money on it. It also took three cabs before we found one with a deep enough back seat to accommodate our car seat, which was frustrating for all involved - luckily, the driver of that cab understood the assignment and activated the flux capacitor on his way to Brooklyn. Arrival at home, 2am today. Our motto on Monday mornings after Isaac's had his schedule upended over the weekend? "It's daycare's problem."
I spotted a few other Cornell jerseys in the crowd, but this has to be the first time I didn't run into any Cornellians I actually know. Maybe there were some in other sections, but I didn't hear from anyone else beforehand this year either. I also spotted fewer
other schools' jerseys this year; not sure what that's about. A handful of them didn't happen until the walk out of the arena after the title game. Spotted this year (other than the four participating schools):
- Alaska-Anchorage
- Alaska-Fairbanks
- BC
- BU
- Bowling Green
- Brown
- Clarkson
- Colgate
- Cornell
- Maine
- Mass
- Mass-Lowell
- Merrimack
- Miami
- Michigan State
- Michigan Tech
- Minnesota
- Minnesota-Duluth
- Minnesota State
- New Hampshire
- Penn State
- Princeton
- Providence
- RIT
- RPI
- St. Cloud State
- Western Michigan
- (Div. III: Utica)
...and of course the obligatory Hanson trio in Chiefs jerseys. dss28 got many positive notices for her Kevin Dineen Whalers jersey, and Isaac looked very sharp in his red Cornell jacket.
I have photos, but our policy is not to share photos with Isaac's face in them on public fora or social media. Feel free to DM me with your mobile # if you feel you know me well enough and you're really interested, and I'll shoot a few good ones your way.
Next year in Jerusalem!
Quote from: fastforward on April 13, 2026, 03:08:04 PMQuote from: adamw on April 13, 2026, 02:30:14 PMQuote from: BearLover on April 10, 2026, 12:59:47 PMQuote from: scoop85 on April 10, 2026, 12:47:24 PMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:58:24 AMQuote from: RichH on April 10, 2026, 12:57:12 AMQuote from: stereax on April 10, 2026, 12:54:04 AM"The hotel told us, if we don't get back by 10:45, we don't get to eat, so we need to get the hell out of here."
Am I being... endeared by Carle?
He's clearly the best coach in the West. Runs complete teams, not just a collection of blue chippers and throwing them out there.
Absolutely. Gets crazy value out of his guys. Could stand to take a page out of his book.
Pohlkamp, for example, was a 5th rounder who is now a 1st round talent.
Denver poached Pohlkamp in the transfer portal after he was already one of the best defensemen in the country at Bemidji. It's true Denver isn't getting many first rounders, which is interesting given they get as many 2-4th rounders as anybody.
Indeed. And no one should listen to anything David Carle says about crying poverty about Denver. They are about two get a massive 1st rounder, and perhaps another top-5 pick. And because of their money, they can retain anyone they want - including players who may be 4th liners looking to leave - who will then become future 2nd liners.
It almost seems to me that the Ivy's are definitely strongly disadvantaged
since there is no financial incentive.
Am I totally off base on this assumption? Someone please enlighten me.
The Ivies have always been disadvantaged by inability to give athletic scholarships. This is now just another thing, and negatively affects probably 65% of the rest of the schools that play college hockey too.
Quote from: Beeeej on April 13, 2026, 03:31:04 PMBeeeej Travelogue
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Sounds like the three of you had a reasonably great time (all things considered) in Vegas. Very happy to read about it! I can't imagine that sort of trip with my daughter back when she was of a similar age. Closest we came was Disney when she was 3, and we also had grandparents to help out and no injuries to work through.
Quote from: Will on April 13, 2026, 04:04:41 PMQuote from: Beeeej on April 13, 2026, 03:31:04 PMBeeeej Travelogue
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Sounds like the three of you had a reasonably great time (all things considered) in Vegas. Very happy to read about it! I can't imagine that sort of trip with my daughter back when she was of a similar age. Closest we came was Disney when she was 3, and we also had grandparents to help out and no injuries to work through.
Let's be clear, btw, there were meltdowns, some screaming, and minor falls and bonks along the way. You can't put a toddler through that sort of experience without consequences. But we think it was worth it, and Isaac came through
relatively unscathed. Our other motto where Isaac is concerned is that we're happy to take
some credit for his disposition, but also "We got stupid lucky."
Quote from: adamw on April 13, 2026, 03:32:07 PMThe Ivies have always been disadvantaged by inability to give athletic scholarships.
Kind of. There have been plenty of needs-based student athletes at Harvard and Cornell where the "need" was a center or a goalie.
The Ivies' biggest problem was the aid donut hole for upperish middle class kids. HYP have closed it. IINM Cornell still has not. So if your parents are doctors but not neurosurgeons, and you are admitted to Cornell for zilch and the University of License Plate Manufacturing at Ann Arbor for a full ride, you probably choose the latter.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 13, 2026, 04:37:56 PMQuote from: adamw on April 13, 2026, 03:32:07 PMThe Ivies have always been disadvantaged by inability to give athletic scholarships.
Kind of. There have been plenty of needs-based student athletes at Harvard and Cornell where the "need" was a center or a goalie.
The Ivies' biggest problem was the aid donut hole for upperish middle class kids. HYP have closed it. IINM Cornell still has not. So if your parents are doctors but not neurosurgeons, and you are admitted to Cornell for zilch and the University of License Plate Manufacturing at Ann Arbor for a full ride, you probably choose the latter.
Uh I can't tell if you're claiming that the Ivies make financial aid decisions for athletes outside their usual framework based on family income but in any case you're right that the financial aid at these schools is so good that it amounts to athletic scholarships in most cases. HYP gives kids full rides if their family make less than $250K or something crazy like that. At the other Ivies it's still good but not on that level. Cornell probably does miss out on a few upper-middle class kids as a result.
Quote from: BearLover on April 13, 2026, 05:13:51 PMQuote from: Trotsky on April 13, 2026, 04:37:56 PMQuote from: adamw on April 13, 2026, 03:32:07 PMThe Ivies have always been disadvantaged by inability to give athletic scholarships.
Kind of. There have been plenty of needs-based student athletes at Harvard and Cornell where the "need" was a center or a goalie.
The Ivies' biggest problem was the aid donut hole for upperish middle class kids. HYP have closed it. IINM Cornell still has not. So if your parents are doctors but not neurosurgeons, and you are admitted to Cornell for zilch and the University of License Plate Manufacturing at Ann Arbor for a full ride, you probably choose the latter.
Uh I can't tell if you're claiming that the Ivies make financial aid decisions for athletes outside their usual framework based on family income but in any case you're right that the financial aid at these schools is so good that it amounts to athletic scholarships in most cases. HYP gives kids full rides if their family make less than $250K or something crazy like that. At the other Ivies it's still good but not on that level. Cornell probably does miss out on a few upper-middle class kids as a result.
I thought that there was an ability for Cornell to match HYP when a coach wants a player who has that full ride potential at those schools.
Has this changed?
Secondly, is this true for all Cornell sports or just a few like hockey, wrestling and lacrosse? I don't remember anyone ever mentioning if the match applies to all sports.
Quote from: Beeeej on April 13, 2026, 03:31:04 PMBeeeej Travelogue
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Travelogue!!! What a fun read! It sounds like you guys had an awesome time - and Isaac is truly precious 🥹
Hopefully y'all can make it up to Lynah for a few games next year!
Quote from: marty on April 13, 2026, 05:55:52 PMQuote from: BearLover on April 13, 2026, 05:13:51 PMQuote from: Trotsky on April 13, 2026, 04:37:56 PMQuote from: adamw on April 13, 2026, 03:32:07 PMThe Ivies have always been disadvantaged by inability to give athletic scholarships.
Kind of. There have been plenty of needs-based student athletes at Harvard and Cornell where the "need" was a center or a goalie.
The Ivies' biggest problem was the aid donut hole for upperish middle class kids. HYP have closed it. IINM Cornell still has not. So if your parents are doctors but not neurosurgeons, and you are admitted to Cornell for zilch and the University of License Plate Manufacturing at Ann Arbor for a full ride, you probably choose the latter.
Uh I can't tell if you're claiming that the Ivies make financial aid decisions for athletes outside their usual framework based on family income but in any case you're right that the financial aid at these schools is so good that it amounts to athletic scholarships in most cases. HYP gives kids full rides if their family make less than $250K or something crazy like that. At the other Ivies it's still good but not on that level. Cornell probably does miss out on a few upper-middle class kids as a result.
I thought that there was an ability for Cornell to match HYP when a coach wants a player who has that full ride potential at those schools.
Has this changed?
Secondly, is this true for all Cornell sports or just a few like hockey, wrestling and lacrosse? I don't remember anyone ever mentioning if the match applies to all sports.
I don't think it has changed, but it depends on HYP offering the kid. I assume it applies to all sports but I'm not sure.
Quote from: Beeeej on April 13, 2026, 04:19:19 PMQuote from: Will on April 13, 2026, 04:04:41 PMQuote from: Beeeej on April 13, 2026, 03:31:04 PMBeeeej Travelogue
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Sounds like the three of you had a reasonably great time (all things considered) in Vegas. Very happy to read about it! I can't imagine that sort of trip with my daughter back when she was of a similar age. Closest we came was Disney when she was 3, and we also had grandparents to help out and no injuries to work through.
Let's be clear, btw, there were meltdowns, some screaming, and minor falls and bonks along the way. You can't put a toddler through that sort of experience without consequences. But we think it was worth it, and Isaac came through relatively unscathed. Our other motto where Isaac is concerned is that we're happy to take some credit for his disposition, but also "We got stupid lucky."
May you continue to be "stupid lucky" in raising Isaac to be an awesome human being and Cornell hockey fan.