Just. Win (https://www.denverpost.com/2023/03/23/cornell-stuns-du-pioneers-ncaa-hockey/).
(https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/AP23082840715832.jpg?w=862)
Veilleux article! (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/03/xavier-veilleux-men-s-hockey-s-freshman-phenom-is-a-perfect-fit-at-cornell)
Caton Ryan reaching 30 points as a freshman adds to a short Cornell list:
20+ points with at least 10 goals as a freshman
30 '26 Ryan
25 '24 Castagna
22 '24 Walsh
21 '22 Psenicka
24 '16 Angello
32 '08 R. Nash
23 '03 Moulson
20 '03 Hynes
28 '99 Ladouceur
24 '99 Kozier
30 '96 Knopp
20 '95 Smart
24 '94 Auger
26 '90 Manderville
38 '88 Andison
32 '88 Derraugh
20 '86 Grenier
45 '85 Nieuwendyk
22 '84 Marcov
34 '83 Moeser
35 '82 Cullen
31 '79 Olds
59 '78 Kerling
41 '78 Tredway
45 '76 Nethery
Kerling, the oldest player on this list I saw, scored his 59 points in 27 games as a freshman.
Note: I have a newspaper clipping attesting to freshman Jefferson Vincent scoring his 19th goal of the season for Cornell from the 1911 10-0-0 national championship season. I have no secondary confirmation and the SID has oddly enough never honored my request for a copy of early Cornell records. Cornell did score 59 goals that year, and scoring was typically concentrated among just a handful of players in those days, so it is credible.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 25, 2026, 11:51:39 PMCaton Ryan reaching 30 points as a freshman adds to a short Cornell list:
20+ points with at least 10 goals as a freshman
30 '26 Ryan
25 '24 Castagna
22 '24 Walsh
21 '22 Psenicka
24 '16 Angello
32 '08 R. Nash
23 '03 Moulson
20 '03 Hynes
28 '99 Ladouceur
24 '99 Kozier
30 '96 Knopp
20 '95 Smart
24 '94 Auger
26 '90 Manderville
38 '88 Andison
32 '88 Derraugh
20 '86 Grenier
45 '85 Nieuwendyk
22 '84 Marcov
34 '83 Moeser
35 '82 Cullen
31 '79 Olds
59 '78 Kerling
41 '78 Tredway
45 '76 Nethery
Kerling, the oldest player on this list I saw, scored his 59 points in 27 games as a freshman.
Note: I have a newspaper clipping attesting to freshman Jefferson Vincent scoring his 19th goal of the season for Cornell from the 1911 10-0-0 national championship season. I have no secondary confirmation and the SID has oddly enough never honored my request for a copy of early Cornell records. Cornell did score 59 goals that year, and scoring was typically concentrated among just a handful of players in those days, so it is credible.
Being in company with Nieuwendyk and Nash is pretty good.
Good at hockey, some might say!
Quote from: stereax on March 26, 2026, 01:08:39 AMBeing in company with Nieuwendyk and Nash is pretty good.
Good at hockey, some might say!
Now, where have I heard that before about Caton Ryan?
Jane confirms the pep band will make an appearance in Loveland! (https://x.com/i/status/2037165071772656022)
Tomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only. Will there still be as many TV timeouts per period as if the game were televised? I could see that benefiting either team. Denver will look to play their top 2 defensemen as much as possible, while Cornell will look to start almost every shift following a play stoppage (and certainly every shift that begins in the defensive zone) with the Walsh or Castagna lines.
Quote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only. Will there still be as many TV timeouts per period as if the game were televised? I could see that benefiting either team. Denver will look to play their top 2 defensemen as much as possible, while Cornell will look to start almost every shift following a play stoppage (and certainly every shift that begins in the defensive zone) with the Walsh or Castagna lines.
Based on the Providence v. Q game this afternoon, no. They had the usual breaks at about 1/2 way through the 1st and 2nd periods. I believe there were two breaks in the third.
Quote from: Old Red on March 26, 2026, 11:19:17 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only. Will there still be as many TV timeouts per period as if the game were televised? I could see that benefiting either team. Denver will look to play their top 2 defensemen as much as possible, while Cornell will look to start almost every shift following a play stoppage (and certainly every shift that begins in the defensive zone) with the Walsh or Castagna lines.
Based on the UConn v. Q game this afternoon, no. They had the usual breaks at about 1/2 way through the 1st and 2nd periods. I believe there were two breaks in the third.
Thanks for the info. Guess we'll have to play the fourth line then.
Quote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 11:20:50 PMQuote from: Old Red on March 26, 2026, 11:19:17 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only. Will there still be as many TV timeouts per period as if the game were televised? I could see that benefiting either team. Denver will look to play their top 2 defensemen as much as possible, while Cornell will look to start almost every shift following a play stoppage (and certainly every shift that begins in the defensive zone) with the Walsh or Castagna lines.
Based on the UConn v. Q game this afternoon, no. They had the usual breaks at about 1/2 way through the 1st and 2nd periods. I believe there were two breaks in the third.
Thanks for the info. Guess we'll have to play the fourth line then.
I am all for the 4th line. Didn't they score first against Denver 4 years ago? (And I corrected myself, it's Providence not UConn. The fryers.)
Quote from: Old Red on March 26, 2026, 11:22:41 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 11:20:50 PMQuote from: Old Red on March 26, 2026, 11:19:17 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only. Will there still be as many TV timeouts per period as if the game were televised? I could see that benefiting either team. Denver will look to play their top 2 defensemen as much as possible, while Cornell will look to start almost every shift following a play stoppage (and certainly every shift that begins in the defensive zone) with the Walsh or Castagna lines.
Based on the UConn v. Q game this afternoon, no. They had the usual breaks at about 1/2 way through the 1st and 2nd periods. I believe there were two breaks in the third.
Thanks for the info. Guess we'll have to play the fourth line then.
I am all for the 4th line. Didn't they score first against Denver 4 years ago? (And I corrected myself, it's Providence not UConn. The fryers.)
With Denver having the last change, I think the coaching staff would prefer to not let Denver match up against the fourth line and would prefer to maximize Castagna's and Walsh's ice time.
Quote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only.
Good, so we'll all get to watch it!
I believe in the fourth line and in Cornell!
Quote from: jtwcornell91 on March 26, 2026, 11:41:37 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only.
Good, so we'll all get to watch it!
I couldn't get the ESPN website to work, but was able to sign in through the Disney+ app on my laptop. I usually watch on my Roku at home, just a heads up for anyone else on the road.
Quote from: The Rancor on March 27, 2026, 09:21:50 AMQuote from: jtwcornell91 on March 26, 2026, 11:41:37 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only.
Good, so we'll all get to watch it!
I couldn't get the ESPN website to work, but was able to sign in through the Disney+ app on my laptop. I usually watch on my Roku at home, just a heads up for anyone else on the road.
The economy is in shambles yet you flaunt having Roku at home. Of all the elitist crap you've posted here, this might be the most despicable.
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 09:31:08 AMQuote from: The Rancor on March 27, 2026, 09:21:50 AMQuote from: jtwcornell91 on March 26, 2026, 11:41:37 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only.
Good, so we'll all get to watch it!
I couldn't get the ESPN website to work, but was able to sign in through the Disney+ app on my laptop. I usually watch on my Roku at home, just a heads up for anyone else on the road.
The economy is in shambles yet you flaunt having Roku at home. Of all the elitist crap you've posted here, this might be the most despicable.
Bum off your parents' ESPN+ subscription like the rest of us plebes 😂😂😂
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 09:31:08 AMQuote from: The Rancor on March 27, 2026, 09:21:50 AMQuote from: jtwcornell91 on March 26, 2026, 11:41:37 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only.
Good, so we'll all get to watch it!
I couldn't get the ESPN website to work, but was able to sign in through the Disney+ app on my laptop. I usually watch on my Roku at home, just a heads up for anyone else on the road.
The economy is in shambles yet you flaunt having Roku at home. Of all the elitist crap you've posted here, this might be the most despicable.
You've never been denied a single thing in your life, except humility. Get lost Cakelover.
The band's flight was canceled this morning. There's a call out for area alumni who might be able to make it and cover. Band alumni who can help should check their email and/or contact Brian Gu.
Roll Call?!?!
I'll be there, and stopping in at the Cornell Club of Colorado's pre-game event (12:30-2:30) at Mash Labs Brewery, near the arena.
I'm the tall skinny guy with a grey goatee.
Quote from: Chris '03 on March 27, 2026, 10:01:43 AMThe band's flight was canceled this morning. There's a call out for area alumni who might be able to make it and cover. Band alumni who can help should check their email and/or contact Brian Gu.
That stinks. No thanks to our dysfunctional government!
Roll call: Watching at home with my cats.
If we get to Las Vegas I'll make the hike. It's even prettier than 88.
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5d3b81294cc35f00018be9fd/1611630946207-KS6KFBMVHMTMG5UTPIT3/Sedona+Birthing+Cave+Hike.jpg?format=2500w)
Roll call: Up in Albany for the regionals here! I'll do my best to get the game on my phone though :)
I'll be at the Blue Arena, possibly late. section D, row 18, seat 4.
10s alerts:
Nick DeSantis has 29 goals for his career.
Jonathan Castagna has 19 assists for the season.
Caton Ryan has 19 assists for the season (and his career).
Jacob Kraft has 9 goals and 9 assists for the season.
Gio DeGiulian has 9 goals for the season (and his career).
Aiden Long has 9 goals for the season (and his career).
Luke Devlin has 9 goals for his career.
George Fagaras has 9 goals for his career.
Jack O'Brien has 9 assists for his career.
Tyler Catalano has 9 assists for his career.
Seniors playing in the game who must win to continue their Cornell careers:
Nick DiSantis 29-27-56
Jack O'Brien 0-9-9
ESPN+ link is up, still coming in for a landing.
I heard Cornell is playing a hockey game today, is that true? I could not tell with all the infighting among the fans.
I heard something about Caton Ryan but could not quite make it out.
Anyone have the game? All I have is the starting soon screen.
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 06:03:18 PMAnyone have the game? All I have is the starting soon screen.
Same.
Urge to firebomb Bristol growing...
Was it pushed back because of the 1st game
Now live.
It's on!
Have an intro going now...
Game on with some cringe AI slop.
I got it on my phone!
Fucking Bucigross and Cohen.
We get Bucci.
Does ESPN realize there are 2 teams playing?
131 seconds, 2 Cornell players mentioned by name. Cournoyer and Major.
I doubt they even did research on us.
Casey looking a little Al Bundy behind the bench.
Crappy start. Looks too much like last Friday
Kraft, right idea.
Courns, wrong idea.
This is gonna be a LONG game.
Stanley... please...
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 06:13:36 PM131 seconds, 2 Cornell players mentioned by name. Cournoyer and Major.
I doubt they even did research on us.
I heard "Corn-way"
But they wished a Denver player "happy birthday" 3x already.
"Off of Stanley Hoyt's skater."
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 06:18:20 PM"Off of Stanley Hoyt's skater."
I'm so glad I don't have the volume on.
I do like the power kill so far.
Fuck.
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 06:21:47 PMFuck.
Not much you can do there, deflected like that. But. Fuck.
That looked awfully close to a high stick.
Let's get it back.
5 more birthday mentions
Getting schooled on faceoffs
He really took down Hiscock.
Need shots on net
Quote from: scoop85 on March 27, 2026, 06:24:07 PMGetting schooled on faceoffs
That's my concern. Possession has been limited for that reason but still a few decent offensive chances
Quote from: RichH on March 27, 2026, 06:23:31 PM5 more birthday mentions
I hate people who think national broadcasts are biased.
This broadcast is biased.
Kraft with both shots so far
Seemed maybe worth challenging for a high stick since the risk/reward is so good (the only downside is a possible lost timeout).
Play in the offensive end for a bit, could ya, lads?
With buccigross lowering his voice by an octave and a half, it sounds like he's auditioning for the college hockey video game. It's pretty annoying and phony.
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 06:22:49 PMThat looked awfully close to a high stick.
Shane Palahicky agrees.
Charlie Major checks a guy 3 inches taller than he.
Caton Ryan is good at 19ing.
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 06:25:38 PMSeemed maybe worth challenging for a high stick since the risk/reward is so good (the only downside is a possible lost timeout).
Not to mention the potential momentum shift à la Buffalo 2003.
Come on guys, throw some checks and establish some space. Rise Above.
is ice faster at altitude? that puck is screaming around the boards. both teams icing the puck a lot
Does the altitude make pucks allergic to our sticks?
Looking better.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 06:26:17 PMPlay in the offensive end for a bit, could ya, lads?
Every time I look down they're in the dzone
Definitely look better the last 5 minutes
Quote from: Cornell95 on March 27, 2026, 06:36:13 PMis ice faster at altitude? that puck is screaming around the boards. both teams icing the puck a lot
AI says:
Yes, hockey ice is generally faster at high altitudes, primarily because the thinner air creates less air resistance (drag) for skaters, allowing them to reach higher top speeds. While the physical ice surface itself is maintained by machines, the atmospheric conditions at high altitudes facilitate a faster, more aerodynamic game
"Here comes Hoyt Stanley, and his partner, #5"
Guessing they didn't spend too much time with our pronunciation guide.
Quote from: RichH on March 27, 2026, 06:39:45 PM"Here comes Hoyt Stanley, and his partner, #5"
Guessing they didn't spend too much time with our pronunciation guide.
They eyeballed it while taking shots of whiskey last night. Did you expect more? Rule 1: Fuck Cornell, always.
His partner is Stanley Hoyt.
Do my eyes deceive me or did Denver score again
Alexis gotta have one of those. Shit man
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 06:44:43 PMDo my eyes deceive me or did Denver score again
Right off the faceoff. Not good
Just get one back before the end of the first?
Need our FO magic to return.
Castagna of all people loses the faceoff clean
Quote from: RichH on March 27, 2026, 06:45:36 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 06:44:43 PMDo my eyes deceive me or did Denver score again
Right off the faceoff. Not good
Deflection. I do not blame Alexi for either.
Feed died.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 06:51:18 PMFeed died.
For me too. Came back after about 15-20 seconds.
Same as last week, this team is nothing special when we aren't winning faceoffs.
Veilleux had a very good chance. If he gets his stick on the ice there, he probably buries his own rebound. All things considered, the period could've been worse, but the faceoff situation needs to change.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 06:51:18 PMFeed died.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 06:47:01 PMQuote from: RichH on March 27, 2026, 06:45:36 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 06:44:43 PMDo my eyes deceive me or did Denver score again
Right off the faceoff. Not good
Deflection. I do not blame Alexi for either.
you can't let in every deflection. Those were both very savable, the first one with better positioning and the second with a quicker reaction. But yeah everyone is playing like shit it's not just Alexis.
Afraid this is most likely the beginning of the end for teams like Cornell.
NIL will cause the Big 10 and NCHC to dominate even more as time passes. If only we could have gotten one of those final regional games. Just sucks
When even Caton Ryan is getting beat you know it's a bad day.
Stanley and Devlin teaming up to take that Pioneer down was funny. I hope it's not the highlight of the night.
Need to start the 2nd ROARING. Score early if you can.
Quote from: Iceberg on March 27, 2026, 06:53:44 PMVeilleux had a very good chance. If he gets his stick on the ice there, he probably buries his own rebound. All things considered, the period could've been worse, but the faceoff situation needs to change.
That and Castagna with a rocket wrister from the slot were the only two good chances. Edit: oh, and Kraft with the nifty redirect at the crease. He was good that period.
Gotta stop thinking and settling and looking and just get the puck on net as soon and as often as you can. I've never been one to scream "shooooot," but with this team:
Pretty please, with sugar on top - shoot the fucking puck.
Quote from: RichH on March 27, 2026, 06:59:21 PMQuote from: Iceberg on March 27, 2026, 06:53:44 PMVeilleux had a very good chance. If he gets his stick on the ice there, he probably buries his own rebound. All things considered, the period could've been worse, but the faceoff situation needs to change.
That and Castagna with a rocket wrister from the slot were the only two good chances. Edit: oh, and Kraft with the nifty redirect at the crease. He was good that period.
Gotta stop thinking and settling and looking and just get the puck on net as soon and as often as you can. I've never been one to scream "shooooot," but with this team:
Pretty please, with sugar on top - shoot the fucking puck.
As I often say: Good things happen when you shooooooot!
We will see who's hungry this next period
Damn, that was really close to a high stick.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 07:04:18 PMDamn, that was really close to a high stick.
And an offside right before
Quote from: chimpfood on March 27, 2026, 06:53:52 PMQuote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 06:51:18 PMFeed died.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 06:47:01 PMQuote from: RichH on March 27, 2026, 06:45:36 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 06:44:43 PMDo my eyes deceive me or did Denver score again
Right off the faceoff. Not good
Deflection. I do not blame Alexi for either.
you can't let in every deflection. Those were both very savable, the first one with better positioning and the second with a quicker reaction. But yeah everyone is playing like shit it's not just Alexis.
Counterpoint: you're crazy. Watch those deflactions on replay in slow motion. Dryden has no chance against those.
We are not playing like shit. Denver is good they came out on fire, dominating the first 10 minutes. We weathered the storm, gave up two deflections played them even territorially the last 10 minutes.
Get the next goal and we are completely in this. Do not turn the puck over. Win at the dot.
harder than i expected to figure out when a game is starting when you are on an eastbound plane!
Quote from: RichH on March 27, 2026, 07:05:28 PMQuote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 07:04:18 PMDamn, that was really close to a high stick.
And an offside right before
I was surprised at how fast they restarted there.
Quote from: ugarte on March 27, 2026, 07:06:46 PMharder than i expected to figure out when a game is starting when you are on an eastbound plane!
No matter where you are, the game started at the same time.
*
Great job, let's go pp.
Kraft is playing.
Scoring on the powerplay is an option, y'know.
Anybody seen Devlin?
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 07:14:35 PMScoring on the powerplay is an option, y'know.
Had a great look.
I love the Cournoyer stretch pass. Independent of the rest of this bullshit.
Major fumbling the puck on the PP is emblematic of our issues
We need to learn to score flukey goals. We've done greasy. We're up to our elbows in grease. We need the art of the fluke.
This chaos I like.
Denver cheats up ice a lot. We can catch them with their knickers down.
Was that a high stick on DeSantis?
* Except for relativistic effects.
That was a great shift.
Turnovers kill.
Damn.
So, uh. Next year?
Cornell hockey score a goal challenge: level impossible, apparently
This is a good Denver team and probably better than the last two Cornell faced in the NCAA's, but that 1st period faceoff disadvantage was huge.
3rd DU goal is INCREDIBLY annoying to give up. That's the kind of sucker punch that causes people to break random nearby objects. We look like a bunch of chooches out there.
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 07:33:32 PMSo, uh. Next year?
Nothing is over until we say it's over.
Would be nice to actually get shots on goal every so often
We are bad
Schafer would never let this happen
We have now hit the part of the night where I begin beating myself up, because clearly I did something wrong today that is causing the team to lose.
Nevermind the fact that I quite literally have zero ability to change the outcome of this game. Clearly I must've done something that butterfly effected into this.
Maybe it was putting on the game at all?
Quote from: Big Dingus on March 27, 2026, 07:40:30 PMWe are bad
Schafer would never let this happen
We LOOK bad.
The team overall is still pretty good. You don't fluke into 20 wins.
But.
Nightmare period for Ashton. Unreal
Good time for a shorty. Where's Kovich?
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 07:42:23 PMGood time for a shorty. Where's Kovich?
Somewhere in Albany. Probably within a couple hundred feet of me.
Hopefully a brand new team attitude comes out for the third
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 07:42:17 PMNightmare period for Ashton. Unreal
He didn't look great in the Princeton game, either. Bad timing to have these struggles
Quote from: Iceberg on March 27, 2026, 07:47:25 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 07:42:17 PMNightmare period for Ashton. Unreal
He didn't look great in the Princeton game, either. Bad timing to have these struggles
Wasn't Fegaras also really struggling in the Princeton game?
Man, if we didn't lose to Princeton, we'd be in Albany right now.
Quote from: Big Dingus on March 27, 2026, 07:40:30 PMWe are bad
Schafer would never let this happen
you are a troll.
go back under your bridge
Haven't gotten to watch much this season but based on the snippets I've seen of this game I'll say the following:
1. XV is really fucking good.
2. This team ended up on the good end of what we thought they could be - young, talented, competitive in conference with top 10 potential but not at all a frozen four team (except for a massive fluke run).
3. They play pretty good hockey. Denver is on a different level right now, we're watching a solid top 15 team against a Frozen Four contender and the game is going as expected. Cornell is maybe a little unlucky to be down 3-0 after 2, but only a little.
Better period. Results not there. We are in rough shape, but stranger things have happened.
Quote from: Tom Lento on March 27, 2026, 07:49:25 PMHaven't gotten to watch much this season but based on the snippets I've seen of this game I'll say the following:
1. XV is really fucking good.
2. This team ended up on the good end of what we thought they could be - young, talented, competitive in conference with top 10 potential but not at all a frozen four team (except for a massive fluke run).
3. They play pretty good hockey. Denver is on a different level right now, we're watching a solid top 15 team against a Frozen Four contender and the game is going as expected. Cornell is maybe a little unlucky to be down 3-0 after 2, but only a little.
Tom, I like your attitude!
Just give your all in the 3rd Red.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 27, 2026, 07:51:01 PMBetter period. Results not there. We are in rough shape, but stranger things have happened.
Indeed! I think Denver's too good, they look disciplined, but you never know. A shorthanded goal and a couple of bounces during the rest of the third ties it up.
Quote from: Tom Lento on March 27, 2026, 07:49:25 PMHaven't gotten to watch much this season but based on the snippets I've seen of this game I'll say the following:
1. XV is really fucking good.
2. This team ended up on the good end of what we thought they could be - young, talented, competitive in conference with top 10 potential but not at all a frozen four team (except for a massive fluke run).
3. They play pretty good hockey. Denver is on a different level right now, we're watching a solid top 15 team against a Frozen Four contender and the game is going as expected. Cornell is maybe a little unlucky to be down 3-0 after 2, but only a little.
I mean Courns barely had the chance to save the first two.
It is what it is, I guess. Honestly wasn't expecting the team to win this one just based on Denver being a lot better lmao.
We had a good run of it. Would've preferred more than an Ivy Champs + NCAA tournament banner, but the team did pretty well. It was supposed to be a rebuilding year, after all.
Now if they could blast open Hicks's top corners and make this fun again, I'd be really appreciative.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 27, 2026, 07:51:01 PMBetter period. Results not there. We are in rough shape, but stranger things have happened.
A bounce, a screen, a quick wrister, tie game.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 27, 2026, 07:51:01 PMBetter period. Results not there. We are in rough shape, but stranger things have happened.
We've come back before
I'm all in and not throwing in the towel
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 07:53:40 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 27, 2026, 07:49:25 PMHaven't gotten to watch much this season but based on the snippets I've seen of this game I'll say the following:
1. XV is really fucking good.
2. This team ended up on the good end of what we thought they could be - young, talented, competitive in conference with top 10 potential but not at all a frozen four team (except for a massive fluke run).
3. They play pretty good hockey. Denver is on a different level right now, we're watching a solid top 15 team against a Frozen Four contender and the game is going as expected. Cornell is maybe a little unlucky to be down 3-0 after 2, but only a little.
I mean Courns barely had the chance to save the first two.
It is what it is, I guess. Honestly wasn't expecting the team to win this one just based on Denver being a lot better lmao.
We had a good run of it. Would've preferred more than an Ivy Champs + NCAA tournament banner, but the team did pretty well. It was supposed to be a rebuilding year, after all.
Now if they could blast open Hicks's top corners and make this fun again, I'd be really appreciative.
Yeah this has been one hell of a rebuilding year.
Here's hoping for a longer season! 4-0 third periods are a thing there, boys.
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http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/1976/box19760203.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/1978/box19780223.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2006/box20060325.pdf
http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2024/box20240322.pdf
I'm not giving up.
I hate to say it, but we're turning in a Harvard NCAA effort. Lot of individuals, letting the other team dictate everything.
At this point, we need more grease, more vinegar. This is where Schafer would have us crash the net every time. Stack the crease, get an ugly goal.
Devlin sighting.
Rough night for Ashton. Missed a backhand shot, shoots on Courn with the rebound going to the wrong team, and then boarding. Yeesh.
Let's see some unconventional heroics, lads.
Rough night for the whole team
3 disgusting deflections.
Thank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.
Men against boys I'm afraid. We can't catch a pass cleanly, while they're making wildly skilled deflections.
Oops! Bad Luck scores again
Quote from: DL on March 27, 2026, 08:05:59 PMRough night for Ashton. Missed a backhand shot, shoots on Courn with the rebound going to the wrong team, and then boarding. Yeesh.
Let's see some unconventional heroics, lads.
He also was inches from blocking the Harris goal.
We're not in the Northeast anymore...
You know it's bad when the commentators are filling time discussing their dinner reservation.
Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???
Three more years of Hiscock jokes at least.
Quote from: Snowball on March 27, 2026, 08:12:37 PMDid we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???
The Germans???
Quote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:08:41 PMThank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.
Making it this far is nothing to sneeze at
I'm proud of what this young team accomplished
Being embarrassed on the national stage. Zero heart.
But this is the new reality. We have zero recruiting advantages
These Denver guys are so good. Never see one flat-footed, watching the game. So much so, they seem like they're nearly half a step ahead at all times.
Quote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:08:41 PMThank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.
You signed up to post this crap?
I, and I'm guessing most here, are proud of this team.
(https://i.ibb.co/SwpkQbyf/Screenshot-20260327-201330-Chrome.jpg)
Quote from: fastforward on March 27, 2026, 08:13:18 PMQuote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:08:41 PMThank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.
Making it this far is nothing to sneeze at
I'm proud of what this young team accomplished
please just don't get shutout dawg even BENTLEY got a goal 😭
So I am guessing we will finish with Remington in net in an NC$$ game. The feels.
Quote from: Big Dingus on March 27, 2026, 08:14:25 PMBeing embarrassed on the national stage. Zero heart.
But this is the new reality. We have zero recruiting advantages
Ffs this is the most negative thread. Denver is better than us. It's ok. It happens. No one actually expected us to win this, and if you did, you weren't living in reality.
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 08:12:54 PMQuote from: Snowball on March 27, 2026, 08:12:37 PMDid we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???
The Germans???
I'm guessing you've never seen Animal House
HERE COMES THE 10 MINUTES WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FOR YEARS
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 08:12:54 PMQuote from: Snowball on March 27, 2026, 08:12:37 PMDid we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???
The Germans???
Boy, are you young. :)
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Quote from: ER on March 27, 2026, 08:17:37 PMQuote from: Big Dingus on March 27, 2026, 08:14:25 PMBeing embarrassed on the national stage. Zero heart.
But this is the new reality. We have zero recruiting advantages
Ffs this is the most negative thread. Denver is better than us. It's ok. It happens. No one actually expected us to win this, and if you did, you weren't living in reality.
Would've been nice to be a LITTLE more competitive...
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 08:21:05 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 08:18:40 PMQuote from: scoop85 on March 27, 2026, 08:18:05 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 08:12:54 PMQuote from: Snowball on March 27, 2026, 08:12:37 PMDid we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???
The Germans???
I'm guessing you've never seen Animal House
Nope
And yet you made the perfect response.
yay! I achieved a good score in Internet today: normal to want and possible to achieve!
SOG are nearly even now but there's a stark difference in the quality of the chances.
Let's get one.
Charlie was close
Might as well pull Alexi.
What did one of the announcers say? Like they are actively "hunting the puck" or something like that.
Makes me wonder if the altitude is any part of the issue
Granted, we have not played well but I can't imagine it not being a factor
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 07:42:23 PMGood time for a shorty. Where's Kovich?
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Quote from: fastforward on March 27, 2026, 08:28:14 PMMakes me wonder if the altitude is any part of the issue
Granted, we have not played well but I can't imagine it not being a factor
Altitude is like 2% of our problem, the other 98% is we didn't show up
3 redirects and a turnover. I am fine with Alexi tonight.
Pull him. If Denver scores, put Remington in.
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 08:16:04 PMQuote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:08:41 PMThank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.
You signed up to post this crap?
I, and I'm guessing most here, are proud of this team.
(https://i.ibb.co/SwpkQbyf/Screenshot-20260327-201330-Chrome.jpg)
Oh, well, some people have higher expectations than two losses to your former assistant coach and a blowout in the NCAAs. Sorry! See you next year for our scheduled loss to BU in the NCAA regional.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 08:29:24 PM3 redirects and a turnover. I am fine with Alexi tonight.
Pull him. If Denver scores, put Remington in.
you do know his name is spelled alexiS right
No. We all don't want college hockey to expand FFS. ESPN needs to die in a fire.
No idea what Stanley was doing there, but it's moot at this point. Looking forward to next year with some of the new guys coming in
This is a good fight song because I don't hate it even after 5x. I hate Michigan's after 1x.
Now I'd like to hear ours.
Stanley turnover in front of the empty net sums it up pretty well.
I don't understand why you'd pull the goalie down 4 with under 4 minutes to play. Either pull him with like 8 to play or don't do it at all. Just asking for an even more lopsided score.
We lost because we didn't have the band. Obviously.
Nick nearly got his 30th.
Good core of players coming back next season!
Quote from: Larry72 on March 27, 2026, 08:35:14 PMGood core of players coming back next season!
Depends on whether Walsh and Castagna are back. It will be another rebuilding year without them.
A reminder this is the first time Cornell had gone to the NC$$s 4x in a row since 1967-70.
All these underclassmen are a year older next year.
This team is going to get better.
still glad I didn't get to watch much
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 08:36:09 PMA reminder this is the first time Cornell had gone to the NC$$s 4x in a row since 1967-70.
All these underclassmen are a year older next year.
This team is going to get better.
Cornell went to the tournament 4 times in a row from 2017 to 2020 also. They were locked for a 1 seed in 2020.
Next year is going to be very rough if Walsh and Castagna aren't back, and realistically we need both back to be nationally competitive.
I'm hopeful today left a bad enough taste in their mouth that they won't want to go out this way.
Thank you, seniors.
Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is just an oncoming train.
We played well, all things considered. Denver's real good.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 27, 2026, 08:39:19 PMSometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is just an oncoming train.
We played well, all things considered. Denver's real good.
Elevenver?
First time getting steamrolled since 2019, 4-0 vs Providence in Providence.
We were gassed in the 3rd. Even if it were tied going in, DU dominated. They played a cohesive team game, we didn't.
Freshman always hit a wall eventually. Let's get them all conditioned in the offseason.
Quote from: RichH on March 27, 2026, 08:42:25 PMFirst time getting steamrolled since 2019, 4-0 vs Providence in Providence.
We were gassed in the 3rd. Even if it were tied going in, DU dominated. They played a cohesive team game, we didn't.
Freshman always hit a wall eventually. Let's get them all conditioned in the offseason.
I said it when we dropped game 1 to Harvard - so much of this team has zero college playoffs experience.
We'll get better. Obviously, the Walsh and Castagna questions remain. But even if we lose both, I have faith that we'll stay competitive next year and recruit to fill the gaps.
Quote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:29:57 PMQuote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 08:16:04 PMQuote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:08:41 PMThank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.
You signed up to post this crap?
I, and I'm guessing most here, are proud of this team.
(https://i.ibb.co/SwpkQbyf/Screenshot-20260327-201330-Chrome.jpg)
Oh, well, some people have higher expectations than two losses to your former assistant coach and a blowout in the NCAAs. Sorry! See you next year for our scheduled loss to BU in the NCAA regional.
What makes you think this team will make the NCAA next year?
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 08:37:56 PMQuote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 08:36:09 PMA reminder this is the first time Cornell had gone to the NC$$s 4x in a row since 1967-70.
All these underclassmen are a year older next year.
This team is going to get better.
Cornell went to the tournament 4 times in a row from 2017 to 2020 also. They were locked for a 1 seed in 2020.
Next year is going to be very rough if Walsh and Castagna aren't back, and realistically we need both back to be nationally competitive.
I'm hopeful today left a bad enough taste in their mouth that they won't want to go out this way.
We lost a lot more in talent last season than we will this season, even if both Walsh and Castagna go. Kempf, O'Leary, Rego, Bancroft, Kovich, Mack, Robertson, Penney, Psenicka, Suda, Shane.
That's two whole entire lines and d-pairs and a goalie.
We can recover from losing two star centers and a few fringe players (no offense, Keopple, Donaldson, DeSantis, Wallace, and O'Brien).
Quote from: Dafatone on March 27, 2026, 08:52:41 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 08:37:56 PMQuote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 08:36:09 PMA reminder this is the first time Cornell had gone to the NC$$s 4x in a row since 1967-70.
All these underclassmen are a year older next year.
This team is going to get better.
Cornell went to the tournament 4 times in a row from 2017 to 2020 also. They were locked for a 1 seed in 2020.
Next year is going to be very rough if Walsh and Castagna aren't back, and realistically we need both back to be nationally competitive.
I'm hopeful today left a bad enough taste in their mouth that they won't want to go out this way.
We lost a lot more in talent last season than we will this season, even if both Walsh and Castagna go. Kempf, O'Leary, Rego, Bancroft, Kovich, Mack, Robertson, Penney, Psenicka, Suda, Shane.
That's two whole entire lines and d-pairs and a goalie.
We can recover from losing two star centers and a few fringe players (no offense, Keopple, Donaldson, DeSantis, Wallace, and O'Brien).
Do we have centers coming in this year? Hopefully at least one good one.
Gio, Charlie, buds, time to step it up if both Walsh and Casty go.
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 08:37:56 PMCornell went to the tournament 4 times in a row from 2017 to 2020 also. They were locked for a 1 seed in 2020.
I do not accept (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-paraconsistent/)
falso sequitur quodlibet.
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 09:13:31 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 27, 2026, 08:52:41 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 08:37:56 PMQuote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 08:36:09 PMA reminder this is the first time Cornell had gone to the NC$$s 4x in a row since 1967-70.
All these underclassmen are a year older next year.
This team is going to get better.
Cornell went to the tournament 4 times in a row from 2017 to 2020 also. They were locked for a 1 seed in 2020.
Next year is going to be very rough if Walsh and Castagna aren't back, and realistically we need both back to be nationally competitive.
I'm hopeful today left a bad enough taste in their mouth that they won't want to go out this way.
We lost a lot more in talent last season than we will this season, even if both Walsh and Castagna go. Kempf, O'Leary, Rego, Bancroft, Kovich, Mack, Robertson, Penney, Psenicka, Suda, Shane.
That's two whole entire lines and d-pairs and a goalie.
We can recover from losing two star centers and a few fringe players (no offense, Keopple, Donaldson, DeSantis, Wallace, and O'Brien).
Do we have centers coming in this year? Hopefully at least one good one.
Gio, Charlie, buds, time to step it up if both Walsh and Casty go.
I don't expect any to come in. Could be Major, DiGiulian, Devlin, Catalano, Arsenault as the center depth next year, which would be rough.
For Alexis Cournoyer...
"It's all Your Fault!"
"It's all Your Fault!"
"It's all Your Fault!"
"It's all Your Fault!"
Obviously the fifth and final (Empty Net) Goal wasn't. But, fair is fair for the other four, even if three were deflections. 5-0. Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword.
Head coach Casey Jones on Denver: (https://x.com/i/status/2037706452576751818)
"That's a deep, talented team. By far the best team we played this season."
Ryan Walsh on Denver: (https://x.com/i/status/2037707595767845209)
"They're an extremely talented team. Their goalie played well. They got Pohlkamp back there. They're a really deep team, right? They're going four lines all night."
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Quote from: chimpfood on March 27, 2026, 09:37:45 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 09:13:31 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 27, 2026, 08:52:41 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 08:37:56 PMQuote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 08:36:09 PMA reminder this is the first time Cornell had gone to the NC$$s 4x in a row since 1967-70.
All these underclassmen are a year older next year.
This team is going to get better.
Cornell went to the tournament 4 times in a row from 2017 to 2020 also. They were locked for a 1 seed in 2020.
Next year is going to be very rough if Walsh and Castagna aren't back, and realistically we need both back to be nationally competitive.
I'm hopeful today left a bad enough taste in their mouth that they won't want to go out this way.
We lost a lot more in talent last season than we will this season, even if both Walsh and Castagna go. Kempf, O'Leary, Rego, Bancroft, Kovich, Mack, Robertson, Penney, Psenicka, Suda, Shane.
That's two whole entire lines and d-pairs and a goalie.
We can recover from losing two star centers and a few fringe players (no offense, Keopple, Donaldson, DeSantis, Wallace, and O'Brien).
Do we have centers coming in this year? Hopefully at least one good one.
Gio, Charlie, buds, time to step it up if both Walsh and Casty go.
I don't expect any to come in. Could be Major, DiGiulian, Devlin, Catalano, Arsenault as the center depth next year, which would be rough.
Time to start looking ahead to 2027-28?
Jones on how Cornell responded after Denver dominated the first period: (https://x.com/i/status/2037709246796832773)
"We certainly had a chance in the second period to get that game close. It didn't help that they had a little puck luck with them tonight, to add to the fact that they played really well."
Quote from: Cornell troll on March 27, 2026, 08:52:37 PMQuote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:29:57 PMQuote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 08:16:04 PMQuote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:08:41 PMThank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.
You signed up to post this crap?
I, and I'm guessing most here, are proud of this team.
(https://i.ibb.co/SwpkQbyf/Screenshot-20260327-201330-Chrome.jpg)
Oh, well, some people have higher expectations than two losses to your former assistant coach and a blowout in the NCAAs. Sorry! See you next year for our scheduled loss to BU in the NCAA regional.
What makes you think this team will make the NCAA next year?
Probably the fact we've made it 8 of the last 9 years.
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 09:50:58 PMTime to start looking ahead to 2027-28?
nah next year we win the natty going like 37-0-0 with all our wins being 1-0 shutouts. trust the process.
I prefer the Russian bots...
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Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 09:55:19 PMI prefer the Russian bots...
(https://i.ibb.co/cX8Cs9PY/20260327-215307.jpg)
I was gonna say can we lock the forums again 😂
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 09:55:19 PMI prefer the Russian bots...
(https://i.ibb.co/cX8Cs9PY/20260327-215307.jpg)
I think these people are fans of some of the abysmally bad teams in our conference and decided to register here to troll when they saw Cornell's season was ending. Which is totally fine IMO, I have plenty to chat with them about.
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 09:50:58 PM[
Quote from: chimpfood on March 27, 2026, 09:37:45 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 09:13:31 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 27, 2026, 08:52:41 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 08:37:56 PMQuote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 08:36:09 PMA reminder this is the first time Cornell had gone to the NC$$s 4x in a row since 1967-70.
All these underclassmen are a year older next year.
This team is going to get better.
Cornell went to the tournament 4 times in a row from 2017 to 2020 also. They were locked for a 1 seed in 2020.
Next year is going to be very rough if Walsh and Castagna aren't back, and realistically we need both back to be nationally competitive.
I'm hopeful today left a bad enough taste in their mouth that they won't want to go out this way.
We lost a lot more in talent last season than we will this season, even if both Walsh and Castagna go. Kempf, O'Leary, Rego, Bancroft, Kovich, Mack, Robertson, Penney, Psenicka, Suda, Shane.
That's two whole entire lines and d-pairs and a goalie.
We can recover from losing two star centers and a few fringe players (no offense, Keopple, Donaldson, DeSantis, Wallace, and O'Brien).
Do we have centers coming in this year? Hopefully at least one good one.
Gio, Charlie, buds, time to step it up if both Walsh and Casty go.
I don't expect any to come in. Could be Major, DiGiulian, Devlin, Catalano, Arsenault as the center depth next year, which would be rough.
Time to start looking ahead to 2027-28?
Nah, the centers will be by far our weakest position group (assuming Walsh and Castagna go) but everything else should be improved from this year.
I know you said that in jest but I just want to say that I am pretty optimistic about next year.
Casey Jones on his team's play down the stretch: (https://x.com/i/status/2037711920825057541)
"I thought we might have peaked maybe a month too early. I'm not sure if we hit a wall a little bit with our youth. I'm not sure. ... But we were trying to find our A-game down the stretch. We were really trying."
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 10:09:54 PMCasey Jones on his team's play down the stretch: (https://x.com/i/status/2037711920825057541)
"I thought we might have peaked maybe a month too early. I'm not sure if we hit a wall a little bit with our youth. I'm not sure. ... But we were trying to find our A-game down the stretch. We were really trying."
Unlike some other coaches in our league, Casey is never going to throw our guys under the bus.
Quote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 09:49:31 PM"They're an extremely talented team. Their goalie played well. They got Pohlkamp back there. They're a really deep team, right? They're going four lines all night."
There was a time when we were the really deep team, but I feel like it's been while since we had three dangerous, wear-em-down lines and a checking line, if that's a thing anymore. I'd like to see us get back there.
As far as I'm concerned, the weakest part of our play this year was puck possession by forwards in the offensive zone. Sure, when we win a lot of face-offs our possession numbers are good. But we lose the puck a lot on rushes, and we haven't seemed to have a lot of cycling time; hence, we don't have the dwell time necessary to force in "greasy" goals when we need them. It's the difference between 22-11-1 and 31-5-1.
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 10:17:01 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 10:09:54 PMCasey Jones on his team's play down the stretch: (https://x.com/i/status/2037711920825057541)
"I thought we might have peaked maybe a month too early. I'm not sure if we hit a wall a little bit with our youth. I'm not sure. ... But we were trying to find our A-game down the stretch. We were really trying."
Unlike some other coaches in our league, Casey is never going to throw our guys under the bus.
And thank God for that.
Post game observations:
There was a really nice pre-game get-together hosted by the CC of Colorado. Alumni and parents. Dr Moore was there - she spoke briefly and eloquently about what she's working on in the Athletics department. She also spoke highly of the young men on the team.
She said that the band's flight out of Rochester was delayed, and so they would end up missing their connection to get to Denver today, as somebody else had noted previously.
Between being at the pre-game event and in walking to the arena, I spoke with a couple of sets of parents. Really solid people - travel challenges over the course of the season and especially for getting to Denver by game time today. These folks really care about their kids, and are walking that parental "fine line" of encouraging them while letting them make their own decisions about school choices (both where to start and where to continue)
My actual in-game observations probably won't add anything different from what you all saw in the broadcast. I didn't grow up with the game, and this was the first live hockey game I've been to in 25 years.
We were chasing from the gun. Couldn't get a forecheck to control the action into DU's end. But it also seemed that we couldn't settle the puck - it just seemed to skitter on and off of our sticks much more than for DU. And boy, was DU fast (and skilled). Not obnoxiously more than us, but enough so that we couldn't turn the game in our favor.
The sound system was F#^$(@ING OBNOXIOUS. EVERY time there was a stop in play, they immediately started playing music etc. Maybe it was just as well that our band didn't make it - they would have been drowned out. This is an AHL arena - are NHL games that bad?
I watched the Cornell guys after the final horn sounded. You could sense the disappointment. I'm pretty sure that Jack O'Brien led the handshake line - he seemed to take his time in acknowledging each player from Denver; definitely not the desultory handshakes we think of. He and DeSantis and a few others really lingered - even though it was a loss, they (probably especially as seniors) didn't want to let go of being part of this team, of ending this season with these guys. Alexis was also on the ice until the end, taking time to acknowledge and hug guys.
All I can take from this is that our underclassman are gonna have a bad taste in their mouths this offseason. We'll see if they can use that for motivation for next year.
Fitting song came up on my music as I typed this - "One Step up", by Bruce.
Quote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 10:30:01 PMThese folks really care about their kids, and are walking that parental "fine line" of encouraging them while letting them make their own decisions about school choices (both where to start and where to continue)
Can you offer some color on what this means? Particularly the part about "where to continue."
If you want to see a Cornell team that was an actual national contender go watch 2020. The team this wasn't even close
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 10:30:01 PMThese folks really care about their kids, and are walking that parental "fine line" of encouraging them while letting them make their own decisions about school choices (both where to start and where to continue)
Can you offer some color on what this means? Particularly the part about "where to continue."
Likely enough the Castagnas were around, pretty sure they go to all the games. I'd suspect "where to continue" as in, whether to turn pro or play a senior year. But also, didn't have the conversations lol.
Quote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 10:30:01 PMThis is an AHL arena - are NHL games that bad?
My experience is a few years old, but no, other than Vegas (where everything is loud and obnoxious), NHL rinks aren't like AHL rinks.
NHL rinks are about corporate support. There's lots of money in luxury boxes and even in corporate seats in the lower bowl. Ticket prices don't really lend themselves to family outings.
AHL rinks are more family focused. They're all about keeping the little kids entertained. It's all obnoxious announcers, horrible music, and "make some noise" on the big screen. That and stupid games and throwing crap souvenirs like beer coozies or t-shirts with sponsors names into the crowd between periods. The actual hockey is secondary.
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 10:30:01 PMThese folks really care about their kids, and are walking that parental "fine line" of encouraging them while letting them make their own decisions about school choices (both where to start and where to continue)
Can you offer some color on what this means? Particularly the part about "where to continue."
At this point in time, no. As a parent of 2 young men myself, I have to honor these people's privacy.
I will say though, that the "where to continue" was a tiny part of a much bigger conversation.
Quote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 11:13:42 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 10:30:01 PMThese folks really care about their kids, and are walking that parental "fine line" of encouraging them while letting them make their own decisions about school choices (both where to start and where to continue)
Can you offer some color on what this means? Particularly the part about "where to continue."
At this point in time, no. As a parent of 2 young men myself, I have to honor these people's privacy.
I will say though, that the "where to continue" was a tiny part of a much bigger conversation.
Oh I'm not asking you to reveal any names, just more like the nature of it...as in, why might these kids be looking to leave? Transfer to another school? Go pro?
Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 11:21:36 PMQuote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 11:13:42 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 10:30:01 PMThese folks really care about their kids, and are walking that parental "fine line" of encouraging them while letting them make their own decisions about school choices (both where to start and where to continue)
Can you offer some color on what this means? Particularly the part about "where to continue."
(insert the sound here of radio silence)
At this point in time, no. As a parent of 2 young men myself, I have to honor these people's privacy.
I will say though, that the "where to continue" was a tiny part of a much bigger conversation.
Oh I'm not asking you to reveal any names, just more like the nature of it...as in, why might these kids be looking to leave? Transfer to another school? Go pro?
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 10:17:01 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 10:09:54 PMCasey Jones on his team's play down the stretch: (https://x.com/i/status/2037711920825057541)
"I thought we might have peaked maybe a month too early. I'm not sure if we hit a wall a little bit with our youth. I'm not sure. ... But we were trying to find our A-game down the stretch. We were really trying."
Unlike some other coaches in our league, Casey is never going to throw our guys under the bus.
Agree. I am disgusted at the way Rand talks about his guys when they lose.
My precedence order of the remaining teams:
1. Quinnipiac
2. Wisconsin
3. Denver
4. North Dakota
5. Western Michigan
6. Minnesota-Duluth
7. Michigan State
8. Michigan
9. Global Thermonuclear War
10. Pedo State
UMD goes final. The Elite 8:
1 ECAC
3 B1G
3 NCHC
1 CCHA
Quote from: Trotsky on March 27, 2026, 11:42:54 PMMy precedence order of the remaining teams:
1. Quinnipiac
2. Wisconsin
3. Denver
4. North Dakota
5. Western Michigan
6. Minnesota-Duluth
7. Michigan State
8. Michigan
9. Global Thermonuclear War
10. Pedo State
You want rand to win?
My order:
1. Denver (at least we lose to the team that wins it all)
2. UMD (again, I want good things for Kyler Kovich)
3. Mich State (have a friend who really likes the Mich State hockey team, plus I get to make more Sullivan Mack jokes which is always a win to me)
4. Mich (something something, Ben Robertson)
5. WMich (they seem like nice folks)
6. Wisconsin (have never thought about them, ever)
7. UND (racist fucks)
8. Quinnipiac (no shade to the lovely guys next to me but the Q program could fold and I'd probably hold a party)
So the Jane CHN article has me in tears. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2026/03/28_You-Havent-Heard-the-Last.php)
Quote from: stereax on March 28, 2026, 01:46:26 AMSo the Jane CHN article has me in tears. (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2026/03/28_You-Havent-Heard-the-Last.php)
And if you thought that was bad: (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/03/no-9-men-s-hockeys-season-ends-in-ncaa-regional-semifinal-defeat-to-no-4-denver)
When he sat down for the postgame press conferences, a forlorn Walsh had not yet taken off his jersey or pads — just his skates. He and his alternate captain, junior forward Jonathan Castagna, were the last two players on the ice.
Never root for Quinnipiac
Never root for players who bail on our team
Never root for Big 10/NIL
Root against teams who beat us
That leaves UMD and Western
Quote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 02:09:54 AMNever root for Quinnipiac
Never root for players who bail on our team
Never root for Big 10/NIL
Root against teams who beat us
That leaves UMD and Western
See, I don't mind rooting against a team that beat us if they weren't dirty, but I get the impulse.
Tonight was pretty demoralizing. While the last few seasons we were a bounce from the Frozen Four, tonight it felt very far away. Those last seasons we peaked around this time; this year, we went 2-3 in the postseason and never found our game.
I'm happy we made the tournament and that's always a great accomplishment but there was never a point in the last couple months when it felt like we could really make noise. The freshmen started strong but many of them faded down the stretch. More and more it became a team dominated by the junior class, especially Castagna and Walsh. Tonight once again Castagna was the best Cornell player on the ice. If there's any bright side to tonight it's that maybe Castagna and Walsh won't want to leave on this note.
Still, for my sanity I'd prefer losing 5-0 to Denver to losing 3-2 in OT to BU. The outcome was never much in doubt so the nerves faded fast. Once Denver took a 2-0 lead it was all but over.
Going forward it will be critical for at least one of Walsh and Castagna to stay. We need them down the middle.
Casey overall did a good job but it's very disappointing that the team never found its game and maybe even regressed towards the end of the year. It seemed we lacked poise. It's been awhile since we looked this bad in the NCAA tournament.
Quote from: stereax on March 28, 2026, 12:32:23 AMYou want rand to win?
I want the ECAC to win.
Once Q bolts to their natural habitat, HE, they drop into the abyss.
From McNally:
QuoteIf nothing else, playing a team like Denver solidifies in Cornell's mind what it seeks to become.
Mike's template was the Lake Superior State teams of the 90's. We won. And we watched 30 years of low event hockey.
If Casey's template is the Denver teams of the 20's, we are going to have fun the next decade.
I think we did peak too early. Too many nights we didn't play well from February 7 until last night. Loss to Clarkson, tie RPI, ugly loss to Union, bad loss at Princeton, got suckered into a bar fight vs Clarkson, game 1 vs Harvard wasn't a good look, Princeton, culminating in Denver. I was starting to think that maybe we don't like playing on Fridays.
Every year when the last game is over, I think "how are we ever going to win again without x senior?". Obviously that is changing with the addition of transfer portal and players going pro earlier so I have to worry about underclassmen. But every year we seem to figure it out. We need suffocating defensemen that play consistent and limit the mistakes.
Quote from: Bluelightning on March 28, 2026, 07:15:22 AMI think we did peak too early. Too many nights we didn't play well from February 7 until last night. Loss to Clarkson, tie RPI, ugly loss to Union, bad loss at Princeton, got suckered into a bar fight vs Clarkson, game 1 vs Harvard wasn't a good look, Princeton, culminating in Denver. I was starting to think that maybe we don't like playing on Fridays.
Every year when the last game is over, I think "how are we ever going to win again without x senior?". Obviously that is changing with the addition of transfer portal and players going pro earlier so I have to worry about underclassmen. But every year we seem to figure it out. We need suffocating defensemen that play consistent and limit the mistakes.
Great first post and WELCOME!
Ironically, this is the one year I am
not thinking "how are we ever going to win again without x senior?" The critical loss, if it happens, will be Castagna. And even should we lose both him and Walsh, we are stacked (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2026/2026_Roster_by_Class.html) with underclassmen forwards.
Quote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 10:30:01 PMPost game observations:
The sound system was F#^$(@ING OBNOXIOUS. EVERY time there was a stop in play, they immediately started playing music etc. Maybe it was just as well that our band didn't make it - they would have been drowned out. This is an AHL arena - are NHL games that bad?
Welcome to the resistance.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 28, 2026, 06:13:11 AMFrom McNally:
QuoteIf nothing else, playing a team like Denver solidifies in Cornell's mind what it seeks to become.
Mike's template was the Lake Superior State teams of the 90's. We won. And we watched 30 years of low event hockey.
If Casey's template is the Denver teams of the 20's, we are going to have fun the next decade.
I always thought it was the Jersey Devils of the 90s but probably same thing.
Quote from: Scersk '97 on March 27, 2026, 10:24:57 PMQuote from: stereax on March 27, 2026, 09:49:31 PM"They're an extremely talented team. Their goalie played well. They got Pohlkamp back there. They're a really deep team, right? They're going four lines all night."
There was a time when we were the really deep team, but I feel like it's been while since we had three dangerous, wear-em-down lines and a checking line, if that's a thing anymore. I'd like to see us get back there.
As far as I'm concerned, the weakest part of our play this year was puck possession by forwards in the offensive zone. Sure, when we win a lot of face-offs our possession numbers are good. But we lose the puck a lot on rushes, and we haven't seemed to have a lot of cycling time; hence, we don't have the dwell time necessary to force in "greasy" goals when we need them. It's the difference between 22-11-1 and 31-5-1.
I always feel like Cornell's entire plan is to get greasy goals. Those are bread and butter and yes you need enough of them and honestly that can win you the ECAC especially when Quinnipiac can be outworked. But beyond that it's speed and elite skill. The 2020 team oozes talent and had guys who were headed to the NHL. In games like last night's you need a guy or 3 who can step up and just flat-out make an elite skill play and get us back in it. It may seem counterintuitive but - for example on Denver's 3rd goal - bad turnover but the kid just sniped it. Our guys throw that into the goalie every time. One example of a kid with wheels and skill is DiGiulian. He's not a big hitter at all and isn't going to win the Selke. But in January they were down to Omaha at home, and he buries an absolute snipe to tie it, then forces a turnover and makes a quick back and assist to set up the winner. After the game I remember being surprised that there was no acknowledgment of that - probably because he doesn't do a ton otherwise - but Gio won us that game. You do actually need guys who can make plays. He'll, Wyttenbach is pretty one dimensional but that dimension made a huge difference for q.
Quote from: Bluelightning on March 28, 2026, 07:15:22 AMI think we did peak too early. Too many nights we didn't play well from February 7 until last night. Loss to Clarkson, tie RPI, ugly loss to Union, bad loss at Princeton, got suckered into a bar fight vs Clarkson, game 1 vs Harvard wasn't a good look, Princeton, culminating in Denver. I was starting to think that maybe we don't like playing on Fridays.
Every year when the last game is over, I think "how are we ever going to win again without x senior?". Obviously that is changing with the addition of transfer portal and players going pro earlier so I have to worry about underclassmen. But every year we seem to figure it out. We need suffocating defensemen that play consistent and limit the mistakes.
Agree about them peaking early - Harvard/Dartmouth weekend was a huge peak for sure, never felt they were as good after that.
Tough to say if from their perspectives Castagna and Walsh should stay. As good as they were this year I'd love to see them be able to really step up in a game like last nights . But maybe developmentally the ECAC doesn't provide enough of a challenge to get to the next level. Most guys coming out of Cornell have trouble sticking at the AHL level never mind NHL.
Quote from: Chris '03 on March 28, 2026, 08:16:58 AMQuote from: Chris H82 on March 27, 2026, 10:30:01 PMPost game observations:
The sound system was F#^$(@ING OBNOXIOUS. EVERY time there was a stop in play, they immediately started playing music etc. Maybe it was just as well that our band didn't make it - they would have been drowned out. This is an AHL arena - are NHL games that bad?
Welcome to the resistance.
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QuoteSome things about living still weren't quite right, though. April for instance, still drove people crazy by not being springtime. And it was in that clammy month that the H-G men took George and Hazel Bergeron's fourteen-year-old son, Harrison, away.
It was tragic, all right, but George and Hazel couldn't think about it very hard. Hazel had a perfectly average intelligence, which meant she couldn't think about anything except in short bursts. And George, while his intelligence was way above normal, had a little mental handicap radio in his ear. He was required by law to wear it at all times. It was tuned to a government transmitter. Every twenty seconds or so, the transmitter would send out some sharp noise to keep people like George from taking unfair advantage of their brains.
George and Hazel were watching television. There were tears on Hazel's cheeks, but she'd forgotten for the moment what they were about.
On the television screen were ballerinas.
A buzzer sounded in George's head. His thoughts fled in panic, like bandits from a burglar alarm.
"That was a real pretty dance, that dance they just did," said Hazel.
"Huh" said George.
"That dance-it was nice," said Hazel.
"Yup," said George.
Quote from: Pghas on March 28, 2026, 08:58:50 AMQuote from: Bluelightning on March 28, 2026, 07:15:22 AMI think we did peak too early. Too many nights we didn't play well from February 7 until last night. Loss to Clarkson, tie RPI, ugly loss to Union, bad loss at Princeton, got suckered into a bar fight vs Clarkson, game 1 vs Harvard wasn't a good look, Princeton, culminating in Denver. I was starting to think that maybe we don't like playing on Fridays.
Every year when the last game is over, I think "how are we ever going to win again without x senior?". Obviously that is changing with the addition of transfer portal and players going pro earlier so I have to worry about underclassmen. But every year we seem to figure it out. We need suffocating defensemen that play consistent and limit the mistakes.
Agree about them peaking early - Harvard/Dartmouth weekend was a huge peak for sure, never felt they were as good after that.
Tough to say if from their perspectives Castagna and Walsh should stay. As good as they were this year I'd love to see them be able to really step up in a game like last nights . But maybe developmentally the ECAC doesn't provide enough of a challenge to get to the next level. Most guys coming out of Cornell have trouble sticking at the AHL level never mind NHL.
Harvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
The painful part is that even though the last few years we weren't as consistently good throughout the season, in those years we did clearly peak towards the end of the season, going into the ECACs and the NCAA tournament playing our best, whereas this season we kind of just lingered around the top 12 or so and didn't look particularly good towards the end of the year. Hockey is a zero-sum game and the other teams improved down the stretch more than we did.
I wonder if Casey is able to motivate and push players like Schafer could. Casey seems like a strong Xs and Os coach and he recruited most of our best freshmen this season so he deserves a lot of the credit for a good year. But he also deserves some of the blame for the fact we did not improve down the stretch. At the end of the day, we went 2-3 in the most important games of the season and didn't play very well in them.
Quote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AM[ But he also deserves some of the blame for the fact we did not improve down the stretch. At the end of the day, we went 2-3 in the most important games of the season and didn't play very well in them.
And Casey is accountable to that, right? He almost there literally said that:
"I thought we might have peaked maybe a month too early," Jones said. "I'm not sure if we hit a wall a little bit with our youth. I'm not sure. ... But we were trying to find our A-game down the stretch. We were really trying."
To me, that quote is accountability.
Quote from: Snowball on March 28, 2026, 10:43:23 AMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AM[ But he also deserves some of the blame for the fact we did not improve down the stretch. At the end of the day, we went 2-3 in the most important games of the season and didn't play very well in them.
And Casey is accountable to that, right? He almost there literally said that:
"I thought we might have peaked maybe a month too early," Jones said. "I'm not sure if we hit a wall a little bit with our youth. I'm not sure. ... But we were trying to find our A-game down the stretch. We were really trying."
To me, that quote is accountability.
Oh yes. I'm sure he'd be the first to take accountability for it. Even if mentioning it on here pisses off a lot of ELynah posters.
Quote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:46:37 AMQuote from: Snowball on March 28, 2026, 10:43:23 AMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AM[ But he also deserves some of the blame for the fact we did not improve down the stretch. At the end of the day, we went 2-3 in the most important games of the season and didn't play very well in them.
And Casey is accountable to that, right? He almost there literally said that:
"I thought we might have peaked maybe a month too early," Jones said. "I'm not sure if we hit a wall a little bit with our youth. I'm not sure. ... But we were trying to find our A-game down the stretch. We were really trying."
To me, that quote is accountability.
Oh yes. I'm sure he'd be the first to take accountability for it. Even if mentioning it on here pisses off a lot of ELynah posters.
Didn't he also take accountability for perhaps focusing on the staff a little too much? (https://x.com/i/status/2037744838083563896)
What preceded this is even more interesting:
"I think we have a good staff. That was my main priority this year, and I left our captains a little bit on an island there with bringing our young guys along. I'm trying to bring our staff along, get us all on the same page." 1/2
"So we had some missteps. If I look back at it, I'd like some gimmes, and little do-overs and some things I did this year as a coach in my first year. But overall, proud that I thought we got on the same page." 2/2
Everyone holds a piece of the blame, IMO
Penalties taken, passes missed, turnovers, faceoffs not won.....
Every piece of the puzzle needs to complete the entire game
It's not just on Casey or any single person
Quote from: fastforward on March 28, 2026, 11:50:15 AMEveryone holds a piece of the blame, IMO
Penalties taken, passes missed, turnovers, faceoffs not won.....
Every piece of the puzzle needs to complete the entire game
It's not just on Casey or any single person
I feel like at some point, when you get to "everyone is to blame", you circle back into "you can't really blame anyone here".
Shit happens. It's hockey. It's why you play the games.
It's easy to blame someone when you see their mistake directly cost you the game - like a terrible clear by a Princeton player that lets Dartmouth win it in overtime. But in a game where it was just -
everyone being outmatched - it's hard to point fingers, especially with a clear conscience.
(Plus, I feel like blaming individual players for losing games - besides the most basic fuckups - both a) is Pecknoldy and b) ignores that it's a game of inches played out over 60 minutes where thousands of microdecisions affect the outcome.)
I just think we were outmatched, simple as, and once you get into the 2-0, 3-0 hole after 20-30 minutes, it's incredibly difficult to claw back up. Especially when you're not playing shitty ECAC teams and instead a legit title contender who can shut you down. And then you get into the mental games of it all too.
I think we're so pessimistic right now in part because our skid came at the end of the season. I mean, most of us were on Cloud 9 at this point last year, even despite the BU elimination, because we got hot at the right time. It felt like we gave it all we possibly could. When we sputtered out in February this time and couldn't work it back, well, it looks worse because the
recent games weren't good. (Strangely enough, us beginning to sputter out coincides with a super long roadstand... just saying...)
Every time I get disappointed, I have to remind myself that we are kind of playing with house money. We dressed 7+ freshman every game including a goalie. We have a new coaching staff (Casey's first solo year in Cornell). I think everyone would have taken 22 wins back in October. They had us all thinking great things late January...which turns out to be unfair. I think this team ca beat anyone when we bring out A+ game. But anything less that A+ won't get it done as young as we are.
I wanted to beat Denver because nobody really gave us a chance. Not much talk of an upset or "we are a dangerous team". Ugh to that now.
I know he's not elite like Walsh or Castagna, but Jack O'Brien was solid this season. Very few mistakes, didn't seem like he took any bad penalties, and just a solid gritty defenseman. Really came to appreciate him
One of the differences between Mike Schafer and Casey Jones is that Casey is more willing to be forthcoming and introspective in his thoughts. Coach Schafer was usually more guarded - publicly - if not defiant sometimes.
They are both GREAT coaches. That doesn't mean they never make a mistake. And hindsight is 20/20. Casey shouldn't be looked at as a lesser coach just because he's more honest about what MAYBE were mistakes. It just means he's more willing to contemplate those things publicly. Praise him for that.
So set all of that aside in order to judge performance.
Fact is, this team was always going to be in transition, and shouldn't have been expected to be as good as last year's team. A lot younger, more skilled in many ways, lots of turnover, including behind the bench. Those are big deals. It's frankly remarkable they made the NCAAs at all.
Going forward, they are set up for a great future. And we'll see. Get back to me if this turns into an annual thing where Cornell wilts a bit in the last month.
Casey's coaching style is also different than Mike's ... not as much cycling, more making plays in transition. Sometimes when that doesn't work with a young team, it can look uglier. Turnovers, hard to set up in the zone. It's not like the coaches don't know this. It's a transition year. They got that far despite that. Again, if it continues to look messy for years on end, then you can criticize. But a transformation was taking place this year. Let's see how it goes. I think people should be excited.
Quote from: adamw on March 28, 2026, 12:48:08 PMOne of the differences between Mike Schafer and Casey Jones is that Casey is more willing to be forthcoming and introspective in his thoughts. Coach Schafer was usually more guarded - publicly - if not defiant sometimes.
They are both GREAT coaches. That doesn't mean they never make a mistake. And hindsight is 20/20. Casey shouldn't be looked at as a lesser coach just because he's more honest about what MAYBE were mistakes. It just means he's more willing to contemplate those things publicly. Praise him for that.
So set all of that aside in order to judge performance.
Fact is, this team was always going to be in transition, and shouldn't have been expected to be as good as last year's team. A lot younger, more skilled in many ways, lots of turnover, including behind the bench. Those are big deals. It's frankly remarkable they made the NCAAs at all.
Going forward, they are set up for a great future. And we'll see. Get back to me if this turns into an annual thing where Cornell wilts a bit in the last month.
Casey's coaching style is also different than Mike's ... not as much cycling, more making plays in transition. Sometimes when that doesn't work with a young team, it can look uglier. Turnovers, hard to set up in the zone. It's not like the coaches don't know this. It's a transition year. They got that far despite that. Again, if it continues to look messy for years on end, then you can criticize. But a transformation was taking place this year. Let's see how it goes. I think people should be excited.
I mean, hell, this team did 1 game worse than last team. Both in the ECACs and on the national level.
I think we'd all take that at the start of the year.
Also, Casey hockey is fun. I like Casey hockey.
I feel like, whatever mistakes MAYBE were made, the coaching staff will now learn from and build upon. And that's the critical thing - you can "fail", so long as you learn from it and work to mitigate it moving forward.
Forwards and onwards. I can't wait for next season.
Quote from: stereax on March 28, 2026, 12:54:47 PMQuote from: adamw on March 28, 2026, 12:48:08 PMOne of the differences between Mike Schafer and Casey Jones is that Casey is more willing to be forthcoming and introspective in his thoughts. Coach Schafer was usually more guarded - publicly - if not defiant sometimes.
They are both GREAT coaches. That doesn't mean they never make a mistake. And hindsight is 20/20. Casey shouldn't be looked at as a lesser coach just because he's more honest about what MAYBE were mistakes. It just means he's more willing to contemplate those things publicly. Praise him for that.
So set all of that aside in order to judge performance.
Fact is, this team was always going to be in transition, and shouldn't have been expected to be as good as last year's team. A lot younger, more skilled in many ways, lots of turnover, including behind the bench. Those are big deals. It's frankly remarkable they made the NCAAs at all.
Going forward, they are set up for a great future. And we'll see. Get back to me if this turns into an annual thing where Cornell wilts a bit in the last month.
Casey's coaching style is also different than Mike's ... not as much cycling, more making plays in transition. Sometimes when that doesn't work with a young team, it can look uglier. Turnovers, hard to set up in the zone. It's not like the coaches don't know this. It's a transition year. They got that far despite that. Again, if it continues to look messy for years on end, then you can criticize. But a transformation was taking place this year. Let's see how it goes. I think people should be excited.
I mean, hell, this team did 1 game worse than last team. Both in the ECACs and on the national level.
I think we'd all take that at the start of the year.
Also, Casey hockey is fun. I like Casey hockey.
I feel like, whatever mistakes MAYBE were made, the coaching staff will now learn from and build upon. And that's the critical thing - you can "fail", so long as you learn from it and work to mitigate it moving forward.
Forwards and onwards. I can't wait for next season.
Exactly!
Looking forward to next year and looking forward to spending the $$ from canceling my Vegas trip 🫤
Again, we replaced literally more than half a starting lineup. Two full forward lines, two d pairs, a starting goalie, and a coach.
The fact that we were in the same ballpark this year as last year is borderline miraculous.
Quote from: adamw on March 28, 2026, 12:48:08 PMOne of the differences between Mike Schafer and Casey Jones is that Casey is more willing to be forthcoming and introspective in his thoughts. Coach Schafer was usually more guarded - publicly - if not defiant sometimes.
Mike understood the media are snakes. Casey will learn.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 28, 2026, 01:32:15 PMAgain, we replaced literally more than half a starting lineup. Two full forward lines, two d pairs, a starting goalie, and a coach.
The fact that we were in the same ballpark this year as last year is borderline miraculous.
It is. I would have said we had a 40% chance of finishing in the bottom 6.
Next season I see us as a top 3 league contender with as good a chance at the championship as anybody, and then a very good shot at a 5th dingleberry in a row.
Quote from: adamw on March 28, 2026, 12:48:08 PMOne of the differences between Mike Schafer and Casey Jones is that Casey is more willing to be forthcoming and introspective in his thoughts. Coach Schafer was usually more guarded - publicly - if not defiant sometimes.
They are both GREAT coaches. That doesn't mean they never make a mistake. And hindsight is 20/20. Casey shouldn't be looked at as a lesser coach just because he's more honest about what MAYBE were mistakes. It just means he's more willing to contemplate those things publicly. Praise him for that.
So set all of that aside in order to judge performance.
Fact is, this team was always going to be in transition, and shouldn't have been expected to be as good as last year's team. A lot younger, more skilled in many ways, lots of turnover, including behind the bench. Those are big deals. It's frankly remarkable they made the NCAAs at all.
Going forward, they are set up for a great future. And we'll see. Get back to me if this turns into an annual thing where Cornell wilts a bit in the last month.
Casey's coaching style is also different than Mike's ... not as much cycling, more making plays in transition. Sometimes when that doesn't work with a young team, it can look uglier. Turnovers, hard to set up in the zone. It's not like the coaches don't know this. It's a transition year. They got that far despite that. Again, if it continues to look messy for years on end, then you can criticize. But a transformation was taking place this year. Let's see how it goes. I think people should be excited.
I'm completely with you on this.
One of the things I actually respect most about Casey is exactly what you pointed out: the willingness to be self-reflective in public. That's not weakness, that's confidence.
Honesty about what might not have worked isn't a knock on Casey. If anything, it should be praised. It shows he's thinking critically and planning for the future.
And Casey's not Rand, he's not Rand, he's not Rand. Thank God!
Stepping back, the bigger picture matters. This was always a transition year, yet the team exceeded everybody's expectation. The fact they had the wins that they did and made the tournament again is impressive.
Plenty of reason to be optimistic.
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 08:16:04 PMQuote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:08:41 PMThank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.
You signed up to post this crap?
I, and I'm guessing most here, are proud of this team.
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Unfortunately the new forum still doesn't have a mute/block feature.
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 09:55:19 PMI prefer the Russian bots...
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Assuming that iowabasedtraveler is the same one who uses that handle on USCHO, he is a Colgate fan. https://fanforum.uscho.com/members/iowabasedtraveler.11417/
Quote from: ursusminor on March 28, 2026, 03:50:08 PMQuote from: andyw2100 on March 27, 2026, 09:55:19 PMI prefer the Russian bots...
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Assuming that iowabasedtraveler is the same one who uses that handle on USCHO, he is a Colgate fan. https://fanforum.uscho.com/members/iowabasedtraveler.11417/
Good lord. Intersection of Iowa and Colgate. What could be worse.
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gonna need this thing to shut the fuck up
Like I said, Casey deserves a lot of the credit and also some of the blame. Doesn't mean he's a bad coach or that these problems will repeat themselves. It was a good year overall. But when the entire team plateaued or even regressed down the stretch, the buck stops with him. I don't expect that to happen next season.
Quote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 08:45:26 PMLike I said, Casey deserves a lot of the credit and also some of the blame. Doesn't mean he's a bad coach or that these problems will repeat themselves. It was a good year overall. But when the entire team plateaued or even regressed down the stretch, the buck stops with him. I don't expect that to happen next season.
I'm optimistic that won't happen again next year.
I was pretty worried about the schedule this year. My impression is first year players hit a wall sometime in February. The solution is usually to rest them a bit, but with 10+ regular rotation guys and four straight road weekends there isn't a good way to do that.
Worth noting - four consecutive weekends of travel and competition in the spring semester is brutal due to the way Cornell's class schedule lines up. I'm not surprised they never really found their legs after that.
Next year there are three things that should help - the schedule probably won't be so lopsided, they aren't going to be running 10+ first year college hockey players, and (hopefully) Casey and his staff can manage their workloads and time that peak better.
Quote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
Quote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
If you're looking at the publicly available data on eg. CHN, those aren't adjusted for SOS. So top 15 possession metrics in the ECAC is in reality worse than top 15. I don't have access to anything better than what's publicly available, and even the CHN xG stat is not precise as it does not take into account type of shot, so I can't really comment with any greater degree of certainty.
Red-hot Denver pounding the defending champion WMU 4-1 late in the 1st period.
FYI for all - this is what the rink looked like on Friday, just before game time.
Delayed post - I had to sit at a real computer to figure out the guidance that stereax gave me for positing images, but even if I'd known this on Friday, I ain't no lemur on coke!
(https://i.ibb.co/tPCPFty2/20260327-155813.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LhphHW4g)
Quote from: Chris H82 on March 29, 2026, 09:36:11 PMFYI for all - this is what the rink looked like on Friday, just before game time.
Delayed post - I had to sit at a real computer to figure out the guidance that stereax gave me for positing images, but even if I'd known this on Friday, I ain't no lemur on coke!
(https://i.ibb.co/tPCPFty2/20260327-155813.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LhphHW4g)
The atmosphere didn't really come through on the broadcast. I didn't hear much crowd noise except when Denver scored. Did you get the sense it was a significant home-style atmosphere for Denver? FWIW the atmosphere at the other regionals was mostly completely nonexistent except maybe during the two North Dakota games in Sioux Falls.
Quote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 09:56:04 PMQuote from: Chris H82 on March 29, 2026, 09:36:11 PMFYI for all - this is what the rink looked like on Friday, just before game time.
Delayed post - I had to sit at a real computer to figure out the guidance that stereax gave me for positing images, but even if I'd known this on Friday, I ain't no lemur on coke!
(https://i.ibb.co/tPCPFty2/20260327-155813.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LhphHW4g)
The atmosphere didn't really come through on the broadcast. I didn't hear much crowd noise except when Denver scored. Did you get the sense it was a significant home-style atmosphere for Denver? FWIW the atmosphere at the other regionals was mostly completely nonexistent except maybe during the two North Dakota games in Sioux Falls.
Yeah, there were a ton of Denver fans. They would get somewhat stirred up when Denver would have an opportunity. And during play there was the occasional "Let's go Pios" chant. We did some "Let's go Red" for our guys.
But with the incessant piped-in music at stoppages, there didn't seem to be any dynamic of the DU supporters doing any cheers. Maybe it's different for games in their own arena?
Quote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 01:55:24 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
If you're looking at the publicly available data on eg. CHN, those aren't adjusted for SOS. So top 15 possession metrics in the ECAC is in reality worse than top 15. I don't have access to anything better than what's publicly available, and even the CHN xG stat is not precise as it does not take into account type of shot, so I can't really comment with any greater degree of certainty.
Yeah that's a good point. I don't really know how to discount the stats accordingly so unless someone wants to do a more rigorous analysis this will all be on vibes.
My take after a quick look at today's Corsi/Fenwick numbers is still that Cornell (~12th on aggregate possession metrics) was a solid top 15 but probably not a top 10. That's not bad for a rebuilding year, and getting that big incoming class an up close look at a title contender is a real positive even if the game itself was pretty rough.
Quote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 11:14:19 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 01:55:24 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
If you're looking at the publicly available data on eg. CHN, those aren't adjusted for SOS. So top 15 possession metrics in the ECAC is in reality worse than top 15. I don't have access to anything better than what's publicly available, and even the CHN xG stat is not precise as it does not take into account type of shot, so I can't really comment with any greater degree of certainty.
Yeah that's a good point. I don't really know how to discount the stats accordingly so unless someone wants to do a more rigorous analysis this will all be on vibes.
My take after a quick look at today's Corsi/Fenwick numbers is still that Cornell (~12th on aggregate possession metrics) was a solid top 15 but probably not a top 10. That's not bad for a rebuilding year, and getting that big incoming class an up close look at a title contender is a real positive even if the game itself was pretty rough.
Cornell had a below average SOS. I think last I looked it was like 34th, but I can't seem to find it now on CHN. I'm not sure how you account for that exactly, but if a team that's eg. 16th in possession metrics has the 5th hardest SOS, they should be ahead of Cornell.
@sezenack is an RPI fan who maintains a blog and I think he was tracking SOS-adjusted possession stats.
@ursusminor, perhaps you can ping him? Would be interesting to see.
Quote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 11:20:28 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 11:14:19 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 01:55:24 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
If you're looking at the publicly available data on eg. CHN, those aren't adjusted for SOS. So top 15 possession metrics in the ECAC is in reality worse than top 15. I don't have access to anything better than what's publicly available, and even the CHN xG stat is not precise as it does not take into account type of shot, so I can't really comment with any greater degree of certainty.
Yeah that's a good point. I don't really know how to discount the stats accordingly so unless someone wants to do a more rigorous analysis this will all be on vibes.
My take after a quick look at today's Corsi/Fenwick numbers is still that Cornell (~12th on aggregate possession metrics) was a solid top 15 but probably not a top 10. That's not bad for a rebuilding year, and getting that big incoming class an up close look at a title contender is a real positive even if the game itself was pretty rough.
Cornell had a below average SOS. I think last I looked it was like 34th, but I can't seem to find it now on CHN. I'm not sure how you account for that exactly, but if a team that's eg. 16th in possession metrics has the 5th hardest SOS, they should be ahead of Cornell. @sezenack is an RPI fan who maintains a blog and I think he was tracking SOS-adjusted possession stats. @ursusminor, perhaps you can ping him? Would be interesting to see.
Would be interesting for sure. Just eyeballing it though I think Cornell is in a pretty fair rating band. You can definitely make the case for a few teams with good possession numbers vs tougher schedules, but Union and Bowling Green are ranked ahead of Cornell as is so i suspect it all comes out in the wash (in this case).
Quote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 09:56:04 PMQuote from: Chris H82 on March 29, 2026, 09:36:11 PMFYI for all - this is what the rink looked like on Friday, just before game time.
Delayed post - I had to sit at a real computer to figure out the guidance that stereax gave me for positing images, but even if I'd known this on Friday, I ain't no lemur on coke!
(https://i.ibb.co/tPCPFty2/20260327-155813.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LhphHW4g)
The atmosphere didn't really come through on the broadcast. I didn't hear much crowd noise except when Denver scored. Did you get the sense it was a significant home-style atmosphere for Denver? FWIW the atmosphere at the other regionals was mostly completely nonexistent except maybe during the two North Dakota games in Sioux Falls.
FWIW, BLer wasn't at any of the regionals. Not sure what atmosphere he's been sniffing.
Quote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 11:20:28 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 11:14:19 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 01:55:24 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
If you're looking at the publicly available data on eg. CHN, those aren't adjusted for SOS. So top 15 possession metrics in the ECAC is in reality worse than top 15. I don't have access to anything better than what's publicly available, and even the CHN xG stat is not precise as it does not take into account type of shot, so I can't really comment with any greater degree of certainty.
Yeah that's a good point. I don't really know how to discount the stats accordingly so unless someone wants to do a more rigorous analysis this will all be on vibes.
My take after a quick look at today's Corsi/Fenwick numbers is still that Cornell (~12th on aggregate possession metrics) was a solid top 15 but probably not a top 10. That's not bad for a rebuilding year, and getting that big incoming class an up close look at a title contender is a real positive even if the game itself was pretty rough.
Cornell had a below average SOS. I think last I looked it was like 34th, but I can't seem to find it now on CHN. I'm not sure how you account for that exactly, but if a team that's eg. 16th in possession metrics has the 5th hardest SOS, they should be ahead of Cornell. @sezenack is an RPI fan who maintains a blog and I think he was tracking SOS-adjusted possession stats. @ursusminor, perhaps you can ping him? Would be interesting to see.
You can send a message to him yourself as I would have to decypher messages which I have not been reading. He is often a slow respondent because he works for a living.
Quote from: ursusminor on March 30, 2026, 11:42:26 AMQuote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 11:20:28 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 11:14:19 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 01:55:24 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
If you're looking at the publicly available data on eg. CHN, those aren't adjusted for SOS. So top 15 possession metrics in the ECAC is in reality worse than top 15. I don't have access to anything better than what's publicly available, and even the CHN xG stat is not precise as it does not take into account type of shot, so I can't really comment with any greater degree of certainty.
Yeah that's a good point. I don't really know how to discount the stats accordingly so unless someone wants to do a more rigorous analysis this will all be on vibes.
My take after a quick look at today's Corsi/Fenwick numbers is still that Cornell (~12th on aggregate possession metrics) was a solid top 15 but probably not a top 10. That's not bad for a rebuilding year, and getting that big incoming class an up close look at a title contender is a real positive even if the game itself was pretty rough.
Cornell had a below average SOS. I think last I looked it was like 34th, but I can't seem to find it now on CHN. I'm not sure how you account for that exactly, but if a team that's eg. 16th in possession metrics has the 5th hardest SOS, they should be ahead of Cornell. @sezenack is an RPI fan who maintains a blog and I think he was tracking SOS-adjusted possession stats. @ursusminor, perhaps you can ping him? Would be interesting to see.
You can send a message to him yourself as I would have to decypher messages which I have not been reading. He is often a slow respondent because he works for a living.
No worries. I meant ping him somewhere other than this forum, which I assume he never checks. Hopefully he checks it again someday.
Quote from: BearLover on March 30, 2026, 11:45:34 AMQuote from: ursusminor on March 30, 2026, 11:42:26 AMQuote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 11:20:28 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 11:14:19 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 01:55:24 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
If you're looking at the publicly available data on eg. CHN, those aren't adjusted for SOS. So top 15 possession metrics in the ECAC is in reality worse than top 15. I don't have access to anything better than what's publicly available, and even the CHN xG stat is not precise as it does not take into account type of shot, so I can't really comment with any greater degree of certainty.
Yeah that's a good point. I don't really know how to discount the stats accordingly so unless someone wants to do a more rigorous analysis this will all be on vibes.
My take after a quick look at today's Corsi/Fenwick numbers is still that Cornell (~12th on aggregate possession metrics) was a solid top 15 but probably not a top 10. That's not bad for a rebuilding year, and getting that big incoming class an up close look at a title contender is a real positive even if the game itself was pretty rough.
Cornell had a below average SOS. I think last I looked it was like 34th, but I can't seem to find it now on CHN. I'm not sure how you account for that exactly, but if a team that's eg. 16th in possession metrics has the 5th hardest SOS, they should be ahead of Cornell. @sezenack is an RPI fan who maintains a blog and I think he was tracking SOS-adjusted possession stats. @ursusminor, perhaps you can ping him? Would be interesting to see.
You can send a message to him yourself as I would have to decypher messages which I have not been reading. He is often a slow respondent because he works for a living.
No worries. I meant ping him somewhere other than this forum, which I assume he never checks. Hopefully he checks it again someday.
He will get a message from eLynah if you send him a PM using the link you posted to his eLynah page.
Yeah, there were a ton of Denver fans. They would get somewhat stirred up when Denver would have an opportunity. And during play there was the occasional "Let's go Pios" chant. We did some "Let's go Red" for our guys.
But with the incessant piped-in music at stoppages, there didn't seem to be any dynamic of the DU supporters doing any cheers. Maybe it's different for games in their own arena?
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Lots of Denver fans. Probably 8:1 or 10:1. I'm surprised that Denver doesn't have a pep band. They did have cheerleaders though which was annoying.
Quote from: billchu on March 30, 2026, 01:17:25 PMYeah, there were a ton of Denver fans. They would get somewhat stirred up when Denver would have an opportunity. And during play there was the occasional "Let's go Pios" chant. We did some "Let's go Red" for our guys.
But with the incessant piped-in music at stoppages, there didn't seem to be any dynamic of the DU supporters doing any cheers. Maybe it's different for games in their own arena?
Lots of Denver fans. Probably 8:1 or 10:1. I'm surprised that Denver doesn't have a pep band. They did have cheerleaders though which was annoying.
I know the place was almost all Denver fans, but I was surprised by the lack of atmosphere on the broadcast. No crowd noise except after goals. Not sure what it was like in person. The rink itself was heavily mic'd—-you heard very loudly the sounds on the ice like the sticks, the boards, the saves—-and maybe that masked the crowd noise.
Quote from: BearLover on March 30, 2026, 01:20:44 PMQuote from: billchu on March 30, 2026, 01:17:25 PMYeah, there were a ton of Denver fans. They would get somewhat stirred up when Denver would have an opportunity. And during play there was the occasional "Let's go Pios" chant. We did some "Let's go Red" for our guys.
But with the incessant piped-in music at stoppages, there didn't seem to be any dynamic of the DU supporters doing any cheers. Maybe it's different for games in their own arena?
Lots of Denver fans. Probably 8:1 or 10:1. I'm surprised that Denver doesn't have a pep band. They did have cheerleaders though which was annoying.
I know the place was almost all Denver fans, but I was surprised by the lack of atmosphere on the broadcast. No crowd noise except after goals. Not sure what it was like in person. The rink itself was heavily mic'd—-you heard very loudly the sounds on the ice like the sticks, the boards, the saves—-and maybe that masked the crowd noise.
The crowd was mostly older fans (as witnessed by the lines to the men's room). DU also had spring break 3/21 - 3/29 so a lot of students were gone. There were very few organized cheers on either side.
It's usually weeks after our playoff exit before I can bring myself to read the game threads, Monday morning quarterbacking, and other post-mortemes, much less post my own thoughts. But something about getting definitively whupped by a much better team really does seem to make the end of the season easier to handle than when we instead come (https://www.espn.com/ncaa/news/2002/0324/1357234.html) oh so (https://www.uscho.com/gameday/division-i-men/2004-2005/2005-03-27/cornell-vs-minnesota) agonizingly (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_ice_hockey_champs_records/2006/d1/HTML/gb3.htm) close to the (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2009/3/29/MICE_0329090945.aspx) promised (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2012/3/25/MICE_0324122136.aspx) land (https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/stats/2017-18/boston-university/boxscore/28766) again (https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/stats/2022-23/boston-university/boxscore/56870) and (https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/stats/2023-24/university-of-denver/boxscore/58897) again (https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/stats/2024-25/boston-university/boxscore/60574). I even felt absolutely no qualms about walking away from the third period in progress to go pick up Isaac from daycare.
Since Isaac cares so much about the Cornell hockeyball team, dss28 paused the game with about a minute left so he could get home in time to watch "the players say night-night" as we've taught him is tradition, and he was sad to hear that it was night-night for the season and they wouldn't be back for about seven months. He does seem to understand that the hockey we're going to see in Las Vegas is still hockeyball, just not Cornell hockeyball, so we care more about the experience and seeing old friends than we do about the outcome.
I agree that with all the turnover, youth, and other uncertainty, if at the beginning of the season you'd offered me 22 wins with a regional semi appearance I'd have taken it. Now, last season - if at the end of January after a chaotic and disappointing first two months you'd offered me a sixth place finish followed by an opening round home win followed by an upset QF sweep on the road followed by an absurd upset semifinal win followed by an upset ECAC title game victory followed by upsetting the #2 overall seed in the regional semi followed by yet another OT loss in the regional final - I'd have said you need to stop smoking crack, but I'd have taken it. That doesn't mean it's not tough to handle the eventual exit after nearly forty years of figuring the next natty's gotta happen one of these days. Just this time, it was like, Okay, I would've taken the miracle, but I sure wasn't expecting it.
I fully believe Jonathan Castagna will be a Calgary Flame within 48 hours. I hope Ryan Walsh stays but I won't be shocked if he doesn't. I won't begrudge either one their decision, as it's not my life, and I don't believe either or both making a different choice gives us a drastically higher shot at a national title. I believe Casey will settle in as head coach, this year's first-years and sophomores will grow and develop as next year's sophomores and juniors, and I believe we'll have an enjoyable 2026-27 season. I also believe that more than the details of any one Cornell hockey game this season, I will remember my son's joy and laughter as he tore around the living room with a dustpan and a plastic ball, dss28 and me at either end of the room playing goalie. If the same is true of next season I will be a happy member of the Lynah Faithful indeed.
Beeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
That's what baseball is for.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:00:46 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
That's what baseball is for.
Hey, County Cricket starts next weekend!
Quote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:00:46 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
That's what baseball is for.
Baseball sucks, that's why I watch fake baseball (banana ball) because it's at least entertaining
Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 04:13:01 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:00:46 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
That's what baseball is for.
Baseball sucks, that's why I watch fake baseball (banana ball) because it's at least entertaining
I'll just say that baseball trains you to overcome failure.
Especially if you're a Mets fan.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:18:14 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 04:13:01 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:00:46 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
That's what baseball is for.
Baseball sucks, that's why I watch fake baseball (banana ball) because it's at least entertaining
I'll just say that baseball trains you to overcome failure.
Especially if you're a Mets fan.
but it's BORING i can just watch the devils to see failure in action
Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 04:33:05 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:18:14 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 04:13:01 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:00:46 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
That's what baseball is for.
Baseball sucks, that's why I watch fake baseball (banana ball) because it's at least entertaining
I'll just say that baseball trains you to overcome failure.
Especially if you're a Mets fan.
but it's BORING i can just watch the devils to see failure in action
Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 04:33:05 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:18:14 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 04:13:01 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:00:46 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
That's what baseball is for.
Baseball sucks, that's why I watch fake baseball (banana ball) because it's at least entertaining
I'll just say that baseball trains you to overcome failure.
Especially if you're a Mets fan.
but it's BORING i can just watch the devils to see failure in action
I was going to say that the Devils were great not that long ago, then I realized you were probably a small child then.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:36:28 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 04:33:05 PMbut it's BORING i can just watch the devils to see failure in action
I was going to say that the Devils were great not that long ago, then I realized you were probably a small child then.
I wasn't alive for the Devils' last cup win (plus I only started following hockey in 2017), so all I know is misery and failure.
Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
There's still a few months of Lacrosse left.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 30, 2026, 05:25:35 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
There's still a few months of Lacrosse left.
Yeah, but that'll last me until June/July. What do I do over the summer??? (Besides fail at finding an internship.)
Quote from: Dafatone on March 30, 2026, 04:00:46 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
That's what baseball is for.
Baseball. So your pain doesn't atrophy for the next hockey season.
Quote from: BearLover on March 30, 2026, 01:20:44 PMQuote from: billchu on March 30, 2026, 01:17:25 PMYeah, there were a ton of Denver fans. They would get somewhat stirred up when Denver would have an opportunity. And during play there was the occasional "Let's go Pios" chant. We did some "Let's go Red" for our guys.
But with the incessant piped-in music at stoppages, there didn't seem to be any dynamic of the DU supporters doing any cheers. Maybe it's different for games in their own arena?
Lots of Denver fans. Probably 8:1 or 10:1. I'm surprised that Denver doesn't have a pep band. They did have cheerleaders though which was annoying.
I know the place was almost all Denver fans, but I was surprised by the lack of atmosphere on the broadcast. No crowd noise except after goals. Not sure what it was like in person. The rink itself was heavily mic'd—-you heard very loudly the sounds on the ice like the sticks, the boards, the saves—-and maybe that masked the crowd noise.
Early Friday - ridiculous game time. Sunday, the arena was full with 98.72% Denver fans - and loud.
Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 05:27:17 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 30, 2026, 05:25:35 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
There's still a few months of Lacrosse left.
Yeah, but that'll last me until June/July. What do I do over the summer??? (Besides fail at finding an internship.)
World Cup?
Quote from: abmarks on March 30, 2026, 11:25:05 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 05:27:17 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 30, 2026, 05:25:35 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
There's still a few months of Lacrosse left.
Yeah, but that'll last me until June/July. What do I do over the summer??? (Besides fail at finding an internship.)
World Cup?
Soccer? [Gags]
Quote from: stereax on March 31, 2026, 12:13:14 AMQuote from: abmarks on March 30, 2026, 11:25:05 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 05:27:17 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 30, 2026, 05:25:35 PMQuote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".
Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.
But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.
...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???
There's still a few months of Lacrosse left.
Yeah, but that'll last me until June/July. What do I do over the summer??? (Besides fail at finding an internship.)
World Cup?
Soccer? [Gags]
Your disdain for baseball is disappointing, but you've redeemed yourself with a rightful aversion to soccer.
Shucks. That was a disappointing finish to a very fun season. I would so much rather endure the agony of a close NCAA game that is a toss up than to lose a lopsided game like that. I waited a full calendar year to hopefully get back the feeling I had during that magical run from last spring. I can't say that I truly expected to feel like that this spring after the way they sputtered down the stretch but I was hoping for a competitive game and maybe a first round surprise.
In the end this young team just proved to not be tough enough to play against. It was a second half of the season issue and not just evident in the Denver game. I'm hopeful that the forward group of Hiscock, Long, Pirtle, Murray and Arsenault can figure out how to grind down the other team along the likes of a Jeff Malott. I'm not necessarily expecting that to be how it plays out with some of their skill sets and Casey's coaching style vs Schafer's but it's a way to potentially create more offensive opportunities that start in the opponent's zone beyond winning a faceoff.
It will take time for the yearning for them to play a heavier game to leave my body after thirty years of that style. I worry though that trying to play the same type of game as the usual Frozen Four teams is asking too much of our talent pool. I'm willing to wait and see if they can make it happen though. They certainly have a ton of balance from this year's freshman group. I'm excited to see how the newcomers will fit in. It's going to be interesting to see how Casey's role players differ from the ones Schafer used to target.
That's one pretty successful transition year in the books. Can't wait to add to it.
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 31, 2026, 10:27:44 AM....
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 31, 2026, 10:27:44 AMShucks. That was a disappointing finish to a very fun season. I would so much rather endure the agony of a close NCAA game that is a toss up than to lose a lopsided game like that. I waited a full calendar year to hopefully get back the feeling I had during that magical run from last spring. I can't say that I truly expected to feel like that this spring after the way they sputtered down the stretch but I was hoping for a competitive game and maybe a first round surprise.
In the end this young team just proved to not be tough enough to play against. It was a second half of the season issue and not just evident in the Denver game. I'm hopeful that the forward group of Hiscock, Long, Pirtle, Murray and Arsenault can figure out how to grind down the other team along the likes of a Jeff Malott. I'm not necessarily expecting that to be how it plays out with some of their skill sets and Casey's coaching style vs Schafer's but it's a way to potentially create more offensive opportunities that start in the opponent's zone beyond winning a faceoff.
It will take time for the yearning for them to play a heavier game to leave my body after thirty years of that style. I worry though that trying to play the same type of game as the usual Frozen Four teams is asking too much of our talent pool. I'm willing to wait and see if they can make it happen though. They certainly have a ton of balance from this year's freshman group. I'm excited to see how the newcomers will fit in. It's going to be interesting to see how Casey's role players differ from the ones Schafer used to target.
That's one pretty successful transition year in the books. Can't wait to add to it.
I'm hopeful that the forward group of Hiscock, Long, Pirtle, Murray and Arsenault can figure out how to grind down the other team along the likes of a Jeff Malott. I'm not necessarily expecting that to be how it plays out with some of their skill sets and Casey's coaching style vs Schafer's but it's a way to potentially create more offensive opportunities that start in the opponent's zone beyond winning a faceoff.
It will take time for the yearning for them to play a heavier game to leave my body after thirty years of that style. I worry though that trying to play the same type of game as the usual Frozen Four teams is asking too much of our talent pool. I'm willing to wait and see if they can make it happen though. They certainly have a ton of balance from this year's freshman group. I'm excited to see how the newcomers will fit in. It's going to be interesting to see how Casey's role players differ from the ones Schafer used to target.
That's one pretty successful transition year in the books. Can't wait to add to it.
The trouble is that these days the better teams have players that are too fast and too skilled to get ground down.
The good news is that maybe we will find one such player. Eric Pohlkamp was a 5th round draft pick and is expected to go straight into the NHL as soon as DU finishes their run. He was able to side step our D-men.
Quote from: Roy 82 on March 31, 2026, 03:49:41 PMQuote from: VIEWfromK on March 31, 2026, 10:27:44 AM....
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 31, 2026, 10:27:44 AMShucks. That was a disappointing finish to a very fun season. I would so much rather endure the agony of a close NCAA game that is a toss up than to lose a lopsided game like that. I waited a full calendar year to hopefully get back the feeling I had during that magical run from last spring. I can't say that I truly expected to feel like that this spring after the way they sputtered down the stretch but I was hoping for a competitive game and maybe a first round surprise.
In the end this young team just proved to not be tough enough to play against. It was a second half of the season issue and not just evident in the Denver game. I'm hopeful that the forward group of Hiscock, Long, Pirtle, Murray and Arsenault can figure out how to grind down the other team along the likes of a Jeff Malott. I'm not necessarily expecting that to be how it plays out with some of their skill sets and Casey's coaching style vs Schafer's but it's a way to potentially create more offensive opportunities that start in the opponent's zone beyond winning a faceoff.
It will take time for the yearning for them to play a heavier game to leave my body after thirty years of that style. I worry though that trying to play the same type of game as the usual Frozen Four teams is asking too much of our talent pool. I'm willing to wait and see if they can make it happen though. They certainly have a ton of balance from this year's freshman group. I'm excited to see how the newcomers will fit in. It's going to be interesting to see how Casey's role players differ from the ones Schafer used to target.
That's one pretty successful transition year in the books. Can't wait to add to it.
I'm hopeful that the forward group of Hiscock, Long, Pirtle, Murray and Arsenault can figure out how to grind down the other team along the likes of a Jeff Malott. I'm not necessarily expecting that to be how it plays out with some of their skill sets and Casey's coaching style vs Schafer's but it's a way to potentially create more offensive opportunities that start in the opponent's zone beyond winning a faceoff.
It will take time for the yearning for them to play a heavier game to leave my body after thirty years of that style. I worry though that trying to play the same type of game as the usual Frozen Four teams is asking too much of our talent pool. I'm willing to wait and see if they can make it happen though. They certainly have a ton of balance from this year's freshman group. I'm excited to see how the newcomers will fit in. It's going to be interesting to see how Casey's role players differ from the ones Schafer used to target.
That's one pretty successful transition year in the books. Can't wait to add to it.
The trouble is that these days the better teams have players that are too fast and too skilled to get ground down.
The good news is that maybe we will find one such player. Eric Pohlkamp was a 5th round draft pick and is expected to go straight into the NHL as soon as DU finishes their run. He was able to side step our D-men.
He's impressive 😬
Definitely one of the strongest players for Denver
Quote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 11:20:28 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 11:14:19 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 29, 2026, 01:55:24 PMQuote from: Tom Lento on March 29, 2026, 01:47:10 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 28, 2026, 10:03:58 AMHarvard/Dartmouth was their best weekend for sure, but it was also their only great weekend the entire season. This never felt like a top 10 team. That's how the computer rankings shook out, though. KRACH has us down at 12 but that's still really good. I don't believe our underlying metrics were that great even if our results (wins and losses, accounting for SOS) were very good.
I haven't looked since a few weeks before the end of the RS, but at least in aggregate Cornell's advanced metrics seemed to me to be in line with a solidly top 15 team. Top 10 in the ratings was maybe lucky, but not egregiously so.
If you've gone through the numbers a bit more it'd be interesting to get more detail there. I didn't get to watch the team much this season but I got the feeling from following along here and checking some xG/Corsi/Fenwick data that Cornell's play style results in more possession than it seems based on the eye test.
That may be because they've got a metrics-sound approach that doesn't yield enough sustained pressure (from what I understand Corsi and Fenwick, in particular, can suffer from this), or it may be because everybody around here got used to watching Schafer's endless cycle approach to puck possession, or it may just be noise.
If you're looking at the publicly available data on eg. CHN, those aren't adjusted for SOS. So top 15 possession metrics in the ECAC is in reality worse than top 15. I don't have access to anything better than what's publicly available, and even the CHN xG stat is not precise as it does not take into account type of shot, so I can't really comment with any greater degree of certainty.
Yeah that's a good point. I don't really know how to discount the stats accordingly so unless someone wants to do a more rigorous analysis this will all be on vibes.
My take after a quick look at today's Corsi/Fenwick numbers is still that Cornell (~12th on aggregate possession metrics) was a solid top 15 but probably not a top 10. That's not bad for a rebuilding year, and getting that big incoming class an up close look at a title contender is a real positive even if the game itself was pretty rough.
Cornell had a below average SOS. I think last I looked it was like 34th, but I can't seem to find it now on CHN. I'm not sure how you account for that exactly, but if a team that's eg. 16th in possession metrics has the 5th hardest SOS, they should be ahead of Cornell. @sezenack is an RPI fan who maintains a blog and I think he was tracking SOS-adjusted possession stats. @ursusminor, perhaps you can ping him? Would be interesting to see.
I'm just seeing this now. Here's what the numbers were before the NCAA tournament if you're still curious https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gbNvoRrsMyXcuE3uk6Bnou_LkBzQvXG6rUxzMYHh9J8/edit?usp=sharing