Anyone know if Cornell will sell tickets to regionals directly or if we have to go through Ticketmaster at MVP Arena? Looks like not selling upper bowl.
I would hold off. The bracket hasn't been announced yet. The selection show where they reveal the matchups is at 3pm today.
Most people project that Cornell will be placed in the Colorado regional, not Albany.
USCHO puts us in Albany. Denver really should not have a regional. The elevaion makes it extremely unfair for everyone else. I did a half ironman out there and between that and the 95° temps it was extremely difficult. Can't imagine trying to play hockey against an adapted team
Quote from: ER on Today at 08:37:00 AMUSCHO puts us in Albany. Denver really should not have a regional. The elevaion makes it extremely unfair for everyone else. I did a half ironman out there and between that and the 95° temps it was extremely difficult. Can't imagine trying to play hockey against an adapted team
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Quote from: ER on Today at 08:37:00 AMUSCHO puts us in Albany. Denver really should not have a regional. The elevaion makes it extremely unfair for everyone else. I did a half ironman out there and between that and the 95° temps it was extremely difficult. Can't imagine trying to play hockey against an adapted team
It's only an issue for us. Cornell will insist that the team stay in classes and won't travel until the last minute. The other schools won't care about academics and could be on a plane as soon as the sites are announced.
Quote from: RichH on Today at 08:13:14 AMI would hold off. The bracket hasn't been announced yet. The selection show where they reveal the matchups is at 3pm today.
Most people project that Cornell will be placed in the Colorado regional, not Albany.
I posted it in another thread, but there are several predictions out there that put us in Albany. Personally, I don't believe that will happen, but stranger things have happened.
Isn't the ECAC the host in Albany? Does the conference have any pull with the Committee to maximize attendance at the venue where they are the host?
Quote from: JohnF81 on Today at 11:15:34 AMIsn't the ECAC the host in Albany? Does the conference have any pull with the Committee to maximize attendance at the venue where they are the host?
I've seen both ECAC and Union listed as host.
Quote from: JohnF81 on Today at 11:15:34 AMIsn't the ECAC the host in Albany? Does the conference have any pull with the Committee to maximize attendance at the venue where they are the host?
The conference has no pull. The rep on the Committee -- 1 from each conference -- can have pull, if they want. The ECAC's current rep is Harvard's Asst. AD
There are rumors the Committee is fiddling around a lot. So don't give up on Albany.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on Today at 08:55:28 AMQuote from: ER on Today at 08:37:00 AMUSCHO puts us in Albany. Denver really should not have a regional. The elevaion makes it extremely unfair for everyone else. I did a half ironman out there and between that and the 95° temps it was extremely difficult. Can't imagine trying to play hockey against an adapted team
It's only an issue for us. Cornell will insist that the team stay in classes and won't travel until the last minute. The other schools won't care about academics and could be on a plane as soon as the sites are announced.
I respectfully disagree. Even if Cornell could get out there five days early, Denver is still going to have an edge at that altitude. Literally the Denver team will have more red blood cells.
You can shorten shifts, and Casey will no doubt try to manage that, but you can't fully control game flow, one extended defensive-zone shift could lead to disaster. That's where altitude really bites. By the third period, if not sooner, you'd expect it to show up in recovery and pace.
Of course it will affect any visiting team, not just Cornell. I hope the committee is taking that into account.
Quote from: Snowball on Today at 01:10:17 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on Today at 08:55:28 AMQuote from: ER on Today at 08:37:00 AMUSCHO puts us in Albany. Denver really should not have a regional. The elevaion makes it extremely unfair for everyone else. I did a half ironman out there and between that and the 95° temps it was extremely difficult. Can't imagine trying to play hockey against an adapted team
It's only an issue for us. Cornell will insist that the team stay in classes and won't travel until the last minute. The other schools won't care about academics and could be on a plane as soon as the sites are announced.
I respectfully disagree. Even if Cornell could get out there five days early, Denver is still going to have an edge at that altitude. Literally the Denver team will have more red blood cells.
You can shorten shifts, and Casey will no doubt try to manage that, but you can't fully control game flow, one extended defensive-zone shift could lead to disaster. That's where altitude really bites. By the third period, if not sooner, you'd expect it to show up in recovery and pace.
Of course it will affect any visiting team, not just Cornell. I hope the committee is taking that into account.
How could the committee take that into account? It's a disadvantage for every team, so how could they mitigate it?
I agree with you that it's grossly unfair. For all the talk about on- versus off-campus regionals, the current system is far more unfair.
As ER said, Denver should not host a regional. In a single game elimination format where small margins affect outcome, that is a major structural advantage.
My nephews train out in Colorado for track every summer. Of course track is not hockey. Denver when they travel have an aerobic advantage, although it's probably slight given all the other factors that go into being a good hockey team.
There is a reason so many professional athletes train in Colorado
Quote from: ER on Today at 01:45:07 PMThere is a reason so many professional athletes train in Colorado
There's a reason the Avs do so well at home too...
Quote from: Snowball on Today at 01:10:17 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on Today at 08:55:28 AMQuote from: ER on Today at 08:37:00 AMUSCHO puts us in Albany. Denver really should not have a regional. The elevaion makes it extremely unfair for everyone else. I did a half ironman out there and between that and the 95° temps it was extremely difficult. Can't imagine trying to play hockey against an adapted team
It's only an issue for us. Cornell will insist that the team stay in classes and won't travel until the last minute. The other schools won't care about academics and could be on a plane as soon as the sites are announced.
I respectfully disagree. Even if Cornell could get out there five days early, Denver is still going to have an edge at that altitude. Literally the Denver team will have more red blood cells.
You can shorten shifts, and Casey will no doubt try to manage that, but you can't fully control game flow, one extended defensive-zone shift could lead to disaster. That's where altitude really bites. By the third period, if not sooner, you'd expect it to show up in recovery and pace.
Of course it will affect any visiting team, not just Cornell. I hope the committee is taking that into account.
Lacrosse team flew out to Denver on a Friday and beat them the next day. Could hockey do the same?
Many coaches and trainers are aware of the altitude and any worth their salt will have teams that travel to Colorado sufficiently ready for the altitude. The results during the game will speak for themselves
I've never heard a single coach complain about altitude when playing Denver - on campus or in Loveland. They figure it out.
Quote from: Iceberg on Today at 02:25:34 PMMany coaches and trainers are aware of the altitude and any worth their salt will have teams that travel to Colorado sufficiently ready for the altitude. The results during the game will speak for themselves
It takes at least two weeks and for the first five days you are not supposed to do anything strenuous. So of course they aren't going to complain about it, but it's definitely a factor
Albany:
Michigan
Bentley
PSU
Minn Duluth
Quote from: stereax on Today at 03:22:36 PMAlbany:
Michigan
Bentley
PSU
Minn Duluth
Seems Loveland is likely
Sioux Falls:
NoDak
Merrimack
Prov
Quinnipiac
Quote from: scoop85 on Today at 03:23:38 PMQuote from: stereax on Today at 03:22:36 PMAlbany:
Michigan
Bentley
PSU
Minn Duluth
Seems Loveland is likely
Yeah, we're playing Denver in Denver, bc Dart has to match with Wisco now.
Fuck!
Worcester:
Mich State
UConn
Dartmouth
Wisconsin
So Loveland:
WMU
Minn State
Denver
Cornell
Quote from: stereax on Today at 03:37:37 PMSo Loveland:
WMU
Minn State
Denver
Cornell
Not optimal. Schafer would've made the game a dogfight. Hopefully Casey can do the same.
In addition to the altitude, Denver also gets home games. They have the entire crowd behind them. They get to sleep in their own beds and use their own recovery facilities after the games. Just like Providence did when they beat us in 2019. Not because they have the highest seed in the regional but because they bid the most money for it.
Makes a mockery of fairness.
At the end of the day, it probably gives them a 5% greater chance of winning.
Ughh
It was sweet beating Denver in 2023. DeSantis and Wallace were part of that team
We beat Denver in 2023 and lost to them in 2024. In 2024, Walsh and Castagna both had golden chances to tie the game the closing minutes. Castagna took a very bad penalty that led to the Denver GWG.
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 03:43:25 PMIn addition to the altitude, Denver also gets home games. They have the entire crowd behind them. They get to sleep in their own beds and use their own recovery facilities after the games. Just like Providence did when they beat us in 2019. Not because they have the highest seed in the regional but because they bid the most money for it.
Makes a mockery of fairness.
At the end of the day, it probably gives them a 5% greater chance of winning.
Maybe minn state will take care of them and we won't have to worry about it. But I agree. This hosting nonsense needs to go.
Quote from: ER on Today at 04:01:02 PMMaybe minn state will take care of them and we won't have to worry about it.
:o
Quote from: ER on Today at 04:01:02 PMQuote from: BearLover on Today at 03:43:25 PMIn addition to the altitude, Denver also gets home games. They have the entire crowd behind them. They get to sleep in their own beds and use their own recovery facilities after the games. Just like Providence did when they beat us in 2019. Not because they have the highest seed in the regional but because they bid the most money for it.
Makes a mockery of fairness.
At the end of the day, it probably gives them a 5% greater chance of winning.
Maybe minn state will take care of them and we won't have to worry about it. But I agree. This hosting nonsense needs to go.
Is Minnesota State gonna jump Denver on their way to the rink prior to Denver's first round game against Cornell...?
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 04:09:55 PMQuote from: ER on Today at 04:01:02 PMQuote from: BearLover on Today at 03:43:25 PMIn addition to the altitude, Denver also gets home games. They have the entire crowd behind them. They get to sleep in their own beds and use their own recovery facilities after the games. Just like Providence did when they beat us in 2019. Not because they have the highest seed in the regional but because they bid the most money for it.
Makes a mockery of fairness.
At the end of the day, it probably gives them a 5% greater chance of winning.
Maybe minn state will take care of them and we won't have to worry about it. But I agree. This hosting nonsense needs to go.
Is Minnesota State gonna jump Denver on their way to the rink prior to Denver's first round game against Cornell...?
I mean if they did...
In either case, I'm gonna go check the prices on buses and tickets and hotels now...
Quote from: stereax on Today at 04:11:29 PMIn either case, I'm gonna go check the prices on buses and tickets and hotels now...
To Denver? That would be a nasty long ride...
Quote from: abmarks on Today at 04:16:36 PMQuote from: stereax on Today at 04:11:29 PMIn either case, I'm gonna go check the prices on buses and tickets and hotels now...
To Denver? That would be a nasty long ride...
Nah, Albany. Michigan and PSU sounds hella fun and I was already thinking about doing it even if we didn't get seeded there.
Quote from: stereax on Today at 04:26:16 PMQuote from: abmarks on Today at 04:16:36 PMQuote from: stereax on Today at 04:11:29 PMIn either case, I'm gonna go check the prices on buses and tickets and hotels now...
To Denver? That would be a nasty long ride...
Nah, Albany. Michigan and PSU sounds hella fun and I was already thinking about doing it even if we didn't get seeded there.
And who can resist Watervliet Ave? 🤪
Sorry I thought she posted the teams in the order of their seeding 🤷🏼�♀️
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 04:09:55 PMQuote from: ER on Today at 04:01:02 PMQuote from: BearLover on Today at 03:43:25 PMIn addition to the altitude, Denver also gets home games. They have the entire crowd behind them. They get to sleep in their own beds and use their own recovery facilities after the games. Just like Providence did when they beat us in 2019. Not because they have the highest seed in the regional but because they bid the most money for it.
Makes a mockery of fairness.
At the end of the day, it probably gives them a 5% greater chance of winning.
Maybe minn state will take care of them and we won't have to worry about it. But I agree. This hosting nonsense needs to go.
Is Minnesota State gonna jump Denver on their way to the rink prior to Denver's first round game against Cornell...?
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 04:09:55 PMQuote from: ER on Today at 04:01:02 PMQuote from: BearLover on Today at 03:43:25 PMIn addition to the altitude, Denver also gets home games. They have the entire crowd behind them. They get to sleep in their own beds and use their own recovery facilities after the games. Just like Providence did when they beat us in 2019. Not because they have the highest seed in the regional but because they bid the most money for it.
Makes a mockery of fairness.
At the end of the day, it probably gives them a 5% greater chance of winning.
Maybe minn state will take care of them and we won't have to worry about it. But I agree. This hosting nonsense needs to go.
Is Minnesota State gonna jump Denver on their way to the rink prior to Denver's first round game against Cornell...?
In my mind this post buys BearLover at least a couple more Ben Robertson posts...
Quote from: andyw2100 on Today at 04:31:33 PMQuote from: BearLover on Today at 04:09:55 PMQuote from: ER on Today at 04:01:02 PMQuote from: BearLover on Today at 03:43:25 PMIn addition to the altitude, Denver also gets home games. They have the entire crowd behind them. They get to sleep in their own beds and use their own recovery facilities after the games. Just like Providence did when they beat us in 2019. Not because they have the highest seed in the regional but because they bid the most money for it.
Makes a mockery of fairness.
At the end of the day, it probably gives them a 5% greater chance of winning.
Maybe minn state will take care of them and we won't have to worry about it. But I agree. This hosting nonsense needs to go.
Is Minnesota State gonna jump Denver on their way to the rink prior to Denver's first round game against Cornell...?
In my mind this post buys BearLover at least a couple more Ben Robertson posts...
No, it doesn't.
Quote from: andyw2100 on Today at 04:31:33 PMQuote from: BearLover on Today at 04:09:55 PMQuote from: ER on Today at 04:01:02 PMQuote from: BearLover on Today at 03:43:25 PMIn addition to the altitude, Denver also gets home games. They have the entire crowd behind them. They get to sleep in their own beds and use their own recovery facilities after the games. Just like Providence did when they beat us in 2019. Not because they have the highest seed in the regional but because they bid the most money for it.
Makes a mockery of fairness.
At the end of the day, it probably gives them a 5% greater chance of winning.
Maybe minn state will take care of them and we won't have to worry about it. But I agree. This hosting nonsense needs to go.
Is Minnesota State gonna jump Denver on their way to the rink prior to Denver's first round game against Cornell...?
In my mind this post buys BearLover at least a couple more Ben Robertson posts...
The new posts are already in the works — thank you!
Quote from: marty on Today at 04:27:11 PMQuote from: stereax on Today at 04:26:16 PMQuote from: abmarks on Today at 04:16:36 PMQuote from: stereax on Today at 04:11:29 PMIn either case, I'm gonna go check the prices on buses and tickets and hotels now...
To Denver? That would be a nasty long ride...
Nah, Albany. Michigan and PSU sounds hella fun and I was already thinking about doing it even if we didn't get seeded there.
And who can resist Watervliet Ave? 🤪
So funny story I'll be back there next weekend 😭😭😭
Historically, we keep running into hosts OR "just up the road" schools who bring lots of fans. A rough history:
2003: BC in Providence 2ot-W (QF)
2005: Minnesota at Mariucci ot-L (QF)
2006: Wisconsin in Green Bay 3ot-L (QF)
2017: Lowell in Manchester L (1R)
2019: Northeastern in Providence W (1R)
2019: Providence in Providence L (QF)
2025: MSU in Toledo W (1R)
I post because last year was about the most hostile environment facing a huge favorite, and we still got the W in the first round. Nobody has mentioned this yet.
Albany, Rochester, and suburban St. Louis regional that one year are really the only ones that won't have a massive showing/advantage from host schools. The NCAA cares about attendance, so they're going to keep doing it.
A chance to take down an old foe at home to start the tourny? Let's GO RED.