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Title: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: andyw2100 on March 20, 2026, 10:20:40 AM
Wondering who we all are rooting for in the Clarkson vs. Dartmouth semi-final game.

If Cornell was not involved, I think I would probably root for Dartmouth. I just respect them more and like them better.

But Cornell is, obviously involved.

Unless someone convinces me otherwise, I plan to root for Clarkson. Overall Clarkson should be the weaker team and playing them should give us a better chance of winning the championship if we beat Princeton. If we face Clarkson in the finals, we'll have last change.

I am basically ignoring NPI considerations because 1) winning the ECAC championship is far more important to me than our NCAA seed, and 2) I kinda feel like any downside from us losing to Clarkson in the finals, or losing to Princeton in the semis, would be mitigated by Dartmouth losing to Clarkson. (I realize that our overall NPI position may be better if we win out if we beat Dartmouth instead of Clarkson in the finals.)

So...all that being said...who is everyone rooting for in the Clarkson vs. Dartmouth game?
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: Dafatone on March 20, 2026, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 20, 2026, 10:20:40 AMWondering who we all are rooting for in the Clarkson vs. Dartmouth semi-final game.

If Cornell was not involved, I think I would probably root for Dartmouth. I just respect them more and like them better.

But Cornell is, obviously involved.

Unless someone convinces me otherwise, I plan to root for Clarkson. Overall Clarkson should be the weaker team and playing them should give us a better chance of winning the championship if we beat Princeton. If we face Clarkson in the finals, we'll have last change.

I am basically ignoring NPI considerations because 1) winning the ECAC championship is far more important to me than our NCAA seed, and 2) I kinda feel like any downside from us losing to Clarkson in the finals, or losing to Princeton in the semis, would be mitigated by Dartmouth losing to Clarkson. (I realize that our overall NPI position may be better if we win out if we beat Dartmouth instead of Clarkson in the finals.)

So...all that being said...who is everyone rooting for in the Clarkson vs. Dartmouth game?

There are very, very few things I wouldn't root for if they're facing Dartmouth.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: stereax on March 20, 2026, 10:57:48 AM
Quote from: Dafatone on March 20, 2026, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 20, 2026, 10:20:40 AMWondering who we all are rooting for in the Clarkson vs. Dartmouth semi-final game.

If Cornell was not involved, I think I would probably root for Dartmouth. I just respect them more and like them better.

But Cornell is, obviously involved.

Unless someone convinces me otherwise, I plan to root for Clarkson. Overall Clarkson should be the weaker team and playing them should give us a better chance of winning the championship if we beat Princeton. If we face Clarkson in the finals, we'll have last change.

I am basically ignoring NPI considerations because 1) winning the ECAC championship is far more important to me than our NCAA seed, and 2) I kinda feel like any downside from us losing to Clarkson in the finals, or losing to Princeton in the semis, would be mitigated by Dartmouth losing to Clarkson. (I realize that our overall NPI position may be better if we win out if we beat Dartmouth instead of Clarkson in the finals.)

So...all that being said...who is everyone rooting for in the Clarkson vs. Dartmouth game?

There are very, very few things I wouldn't root for if they're facing Dartmouth.
Harvard or Quinnipiac I think are my main exceptions.

Also, Clarkson v Cornell gives us that Casey Jones Cinema.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: Chris '03 on March 20, 2026, 11:02:50 AM

Rooting for the game to go many overtimes.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: andyw2100 on March 20, 2026, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: Chris '03 on March 20, 2026, 11:02:50 AMRooting for the game to go many overtimes.

Yeah, but it's much more fun doing that when our team has played the early game and won.

I remember the spontaneous "Our team's sleeping" chant one year in Albany as the second semi-final was going long and late.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: stereax on March 20, 2026, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: Chris '03 on March 20, 2026, 11:02:50 AMRooting for the game to go many overtimes.
How many OTs before they have to rearrange the Cornell-Princeton game? They can't start that at midnight, can they?

...that would be fun as fuck though
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: BearLover on March 20, 2026, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: Chris '03 on March 20, 2026, 11:02:50 AMRooting for the game to go many overtimes.
That would mean our game starting super late.

I know Harvard is our rival but I don't dislike them at all compared to a generic team. They're always one of the least dirty teams in the whole country (some might call them soft). They're also the only school fighting back against Trump. It's a misguided fight they can't really win, but kudos to them for trying.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: andyw2100 on March 20, 2026, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 20, 2026, 11:08:17 AMI remember the spontaneous "Our team's sleeping" chant one year in Albany as the second semi-final was going long and late.

Looks like that was 2005. Harvard beat Colgate in double OT. And of course the good guys prevailed the next day!(https://i.ibb.co/kv623DK/Screenshot-20260320-111555-Chrome.jpg)
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: upprdeck on March 20, 2026, 11:23:45 AM
ECACA wise better to root for Clarkson

If we win 3 bid league. If we lose 4 bid league.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: fastforward on March 20, 2026, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: Chris '03 on March 20, 2026, 11:02:50 AMRooting for the game to go many overtimes.

Then our game would start later and we'd have a shorter recovery time for Saturday-I'm sure last weekend's 3 games were physically taxing on the guys as it is
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: tretiak on March 20, 2026, 01:57:27 PM
That was my freshman year. I remember a loud "both teams suck" near the end of the first ot or start of the 2nd.

Quote from: andyw2100 on March 20, 2026, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 20, 2026, 11:08:17 AMI remember the spontaneous "Our team's sleeping" chant one year in Albany as the second semi-final was going long and late.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 20, 2026, 03:58:41 PM
It doesn't matter to our RPI whether Dartmouth or Clarkson wins.  However if Dartmouth wins and then beats us, they might finish 8 with us 9, so we might get moved to a less attractive regional.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 23, 2026, 09:49:46 AM
Three reasons I was rooting for Clarkson:
Of course, as it turned out, all three games went the wrong way.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: RichH on March 23, 2026, 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: jtwcornell91 on Today at 09:49:46 AMThree reasons I was rooting for Clarkson:
  • They're my second-favorite ECAC program for a variety of reasons.
  • Clarkson or Princeton winning the title would have given the ECAC four NC$$ bids (so a hedge in case Cornell didn't win.
  • I still think of Reid Cashman as a Fighting Deertick.
Of course, as it turned out, all three games went the wrong way.

Plus it was kind of sadistically fun to have a long-time league member with zero titles.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: BearLover on March 23, 2026, 10:25:08 AM
I think Dartmouth was extremely lucky this season, and particularly in the ECAC tournament. They didn't have to go through us or Quinnipiac, and their semis and finals games were even in terms of metrics. They won two coin-flips against mediocre teams. I hope they get thrashed in the NCAA tournament, though in today's era of college athletics there's no way I can root for Big 10 schools either...
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: andyw2100 on March 23, 2026, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: RichH on Today at 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: jtwcornell91 on Today at 09:49:46 AMThree reasons I was rooting for Clarkson:
  • They're my second-favorite ECAC program for a variety of reasons.
  • Clarkson or Princeton winning the title would have given the ECAC four NC$$ bids (so a hedge in case Cornell didn't win.
  • I still think of Reid Cashman as a Fighting Deertick.
Of course, as it turned out, all three games went the wrong way.

Plus it was kind of sadistically fun to have a long-time league member with zero titles.

Brown stands alone...
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: stereax on March 23, 2026, 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:25:08 AMI think Dartmouth was extremely lucky this season, and particularly in the ECAC tournament. They didn't have to go through us or Quinnipiac, and their semis and finals games were even in terms of metrics. They won two coin-flips against mediocre teams. I hope they get thrashed in the NCAA tournament, though in today's era of college athletics there's no way I can root for Big 10 schools either...
just you wait until they make a frozen four lmao. that shit WOULD happen.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: Beeeej on March 23, 2026, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:25:08 AMI think Dartmouth was extremely lucky this season, and particularly in the ECAC tournament. They didn't have to go through us or Quinnipiac, and their semis and finals games were even in terms of metrics. They won two coin-flips against mediocre teams. I hope they get thrashed in the NCAA tournament, though in today's era of college athletics there's no way I can root for Big 10 schools either...
just you wait until they make a frozen four lmao. that shit WOULD happen.

I mean, four of the five other ECAC programs that have ever won a national title won their first national titles just in the time I've been following Cornell hockey. As disgusting as that feeling has been, and as much as I hope and believe Cornell will win another national title during my lifetime, at this point I kind of expect one of the remaining six ECAC programs to snag a national title first.
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 23, 2026, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:25:08 AMI think Dartmouth was extremely lucky this season, and particularly in the ECAC tournament. They didn't have to go through us or Quinnipiac, and their semis and finals games were even in terms of metrics. They won two coin-flips against mediocre teams. I hope they get thrashed in the NCAA tournament, though in today's era of college athletics there's no way I can root for Big 10 schools either...
Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:25:08 AMI think Dartmouth was extremely lucky this season, and particularly in the ECAC tournament. They didn't have to go through us or Quinnipiac, and their semis and finals games were even in terms of metrics. They won two coin-flips against mediocre teams. I hope they get thrashed in the NCAA tournament, though in today's era of college athletics there's no way I can root for Big 10 schools either...
just you wait until they make a frozen four lmao. that shit WOULD happen.

FYI, in 1980 Dartmouth was one of the four teams in the NCAA tournament (which wasn't called the Frozen Four yet).
Title: Re: Clarkson or Dartmouth In Semi-Final Game?
Post by: stereax on March 23, 2026, 06:00:10 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on Today at 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:25:08 AMI think Dartmouth was extremely lucky this season, and particularly in the ECAC tournament. They didn't have to go through us or Quinnipiac, and their semis and finals games were even in terms of metrics. They won two coin-flips against mediocre teams. I hope they get thrashed in the NCAA tournament, though in today's era of college athletics there's no way I can root for Big 10 schools either...
Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:25:08 AMI think Dartmouth was extremely lucky this season, and particularly in the ECAC tournament. They didn't have to go through us or Quinnipiac, and their semis and finals games were even in terms of metrics. They won two coin-flips against mediocre teams. I hope they get thrashed in the NCAA tournament, though in today's era of college athletics there's no way I can root for Big 10 schools either...
just you wait until they make a frozen four lmao. that shit WOULD happen.

FYI, in 1980 Dartmouth was one of the four teams in the NCAA tournament (which wasn't called the Frozen Four yet).
Aye, but they haven't even made the dance since the 80s. So of course they'll make a FF in their debutante appearance this century. That's how things work.