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Title: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 10:54:05 PM
1R:

Friday, March 6

11 St. Lawrence @ 6 Harvard
9 RPI @ 8 Clarkson

Saturday, March 7

12 Brown @ 5 Union
10 Yale @ 7 Colgate

Our potential QF opponents are: Yale, RPI, Clarkson, Colgate or Harvard (chalk).

Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: chimpfood on February 28, 2026, 11:20:21 PM
Dartmouth is 2 seed no? First tie breaker is head to head points
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: stereax on February 28, 2026, 11:22:44 PM
Yale or RPI please.

Clarkson or Colgate will take years off my lifespan, and Harvard isn't as sucky as we like to think it is.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on February 28, 2026, 11:20:21 PMDartmouth is 2 seed no? First tie breaker is head to head points

Yes.

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Adam, you know I love you, but not sorting by seed (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings.php) is no bueno.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: chimpfood on February 28, 2026, 11:44:34 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on February 28, 2026, 11:20:21 PMDartmouth is 2 seed no? First tie breaker is head to head points

Yes.

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Adam, you know I love you, but not sorting by seed is no bueno.
My bad, on second look your original post lines up with that. I'm tired as hell after lax, basketball and hockey all having the biggest games of their seasons.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 11:45:20 PM
Quote from: stereax on February 28, 2026, 11:22:44 PMYale or RPI please.

Clarkson or Colgate will take years off my lifespan, and Harvard isn't as sucky as we like to think it is.
If there's one thing I've learned in my nearly 300 years of fandom it's be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

We'll get who we get and like it.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: adamw on March 01, 2026, 01:57:44 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on February 28, 2026, 11:20:21 PMDartmouth is 2 seed no? First tie breaker is head to head points

Yes.

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Adam, you know I love you, but not sorting by seed (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings.php) is no bueno.

I don't know - I never have been sure that you do...

I spend thousands of hours a year on the site - but trying to code all the league's tiebreakers into the sort would take years off my life. Maybe Claude can do it now.  We do have a page with all the brackets and seeds though.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/conf/ECAC/4/bracket
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Give My Regards on March 01, 2026, 07:22:33 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on February 28, 2026, 11:20:21 PMDartmouth is 2 seed no? First tie breaker is head to head points

Yes.

1 Qpc
2 Drt
3 Cor
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Adam, you know I love you, but not sorting by seed (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings.php) is no bueno.

I'd cut Adam some slack, since as of Sunday morning the ECAC site (https://ecachockey.com/standings.aspx?path=mhockey) doesn't have it right either.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Dafatone on March 01, 2026, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: stereax on February 28, 2026, 11:22:44 PMYale or RPI please.

Clarkson or Colgate will take years off my lifespan, and Harvard isn't as sucky as we like to think it is.

I just don't want to see Colgate again. That chipfest seemed to really throw us off our game.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 09:12:16 AM
Why isn't Cornell the two seed with more regulation league wins than Dartmouth?  Why is head to head the first tie breaker?  Doesn't seem right. 
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 01, 2026, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 09:12:16 AMWhy isn't Cornell the two seed with more regulation league wins than Dartmouth?  Why is head to head the first tie breaker?  Doesn't seem right. 
Why is wins "right"?

And of course you answered your first question with your second question. ;D
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla on March 01, 2026, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 09:12:16 AMWhy isn't Cornell the two seed with more regulation league wins than Dartmouth?  Why is head to head the first tie breaker?  Doesn't seem right. 
Why is wins "right"?

And of course you answered your first question with your second question. ;D

Cornell had 14 regulation wins to Dartmouth's 13.  That should always be more valuable.  Head to head comes into play beyond that.  Regulation wins is the first tie breaker in the NHL
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 01, 2026, 11:49:51 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla on March 01, 2026, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 09:12:16 AMWhy isn't Cornell the two seed with more regulation league wins than Dartmouth?  Why is head to head the first tie breaker?  Doesn't seem right. 
Why is wins "right"?

And of course you answered your first question with your second question. ;D

Cornell had 14 regulation wins to Dartmouth's 13.  That should always be more valuable.  Head to head comes into play beyond that.  Regulation wins is the first tie breaker in the NHL
Instead of playing every game till you have a winner, once you start basing seeding on some sort of point system, it's all opinion.

For example, let's say that you win every game in OT, with no regulation wins. You wouldn't put that team last because regulation wins are more important. But how you figure it out is opinion.

Yours, mine and the chicken next door, they're all just opinions.

And thankfully, hopefully, we don't see 3 on 3 or shoot outs determine championships. ;)
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 01:10:39 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla on March 01, 2026, 11:49:51 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla on March 01, 2026, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 09:12:16 AMWhy isn't Cornell the two seed with more regulation league wins than Dartmouth?  Why is head to head the first tie breaker?  Doesn't seem right. 
Why is wins "right"?

And of course you answered your first question with your second question. ;D

Cornell had 14 regulation wins to Dartmouth's 13.  That should always be more valuable.  Head to head comes into play beyond that.  Regulation wins is the first tie breaker in the NHL
Instead of playing every game till you have a winner, once you start basing seeding on some sort of point system, it's all opinion.

For example, let's say that you win every game in OT, with no regulation wins. You wouldn't put that team last because regulation wins are more important. But how you figure it out is opinion.

Yours, mine and the chicken next door, they're all just opinions.

And thankfully, hopefully, we don't see 3 on 3 or shoot outs determine championships. ;)

The ECAC clearly values regulation wins more now that they award three points.  Why shouldn't that be reflected in the standings?  The body of work over a 22 game league schedule should outweigh a head to head matchup of two games.

I tried to get the chicken next door to weigh in on the topic but he's still bent out of shape over that getting tied to the net thing. 
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: andyw2100 on March 01, 2026, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromKI tried to get the chicken next door to weigh in on the topic but he's still bent out of shape over that getting tied to the net thing.

That's one old chicken...
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2026, 02:03:42 PM
Quote from: Give My Regards on March 01, 2026, 07:22:33 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on February 28, 2026, 11:20:21 PMDartmouth is 2 seed no? First tie breaker is head to head points

Yes.

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Adam, you know I love you, but not sorting by seed (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings.php) is no bueno.

I'd cut Adam some slack, since as of Sunday morning the ECAC site (https://ecachockey.com/standings.aspx?path=mhockey) doesn't have it right either.
Low bar.  :-)

My favorite is the entire summer the Ivies still had their standings by Old Points when they had shifted to Derp Points, thus listing Harvard as champ when we had won (despite being swept by them, hee hee).

Adam knows I love him and treasure CHN.  We are always most critical of those we admire.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: RichH on March 01, 2026, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on March 01, 2026, 02:03:42 PMAdam knows I love him and treasure CHN.  We are always most critical of those we admire.

Except Harvard and politicians.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: BearLover on March 01, 2026, 02:45:52 PM
If there are no upsets in the first round, our opponent is Harvard. One upset, it's Colgate. Two upsets, Clarkson. Three upsets, RPI. Four upsets, Yale.

Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: chimpfood on March 01, 2026, 02:51:08 PM
Wouldn't hate another Harvard series, but I wouldn't be shocked to see brown beat Union. It killed me to miss the harvard series two years ago.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: scoop85 on March 01, 2026, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on March 01, 2026, 02:51:08 PMWouldn't hate another Harvard series, but I wouldn't be shocked to see brown beat Union. It killed me to miss the harvard series two years ago.

No way Brown beats Union.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: marty on March 01, 2026, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on March 01, 2026, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on March 01, 2026, 02:51:08 PMWouldn't hate another Harvard series, but I wouldn't be shocked to see brown beat Union. It killed me to miss the harvard series two years ago.

No way Brown beats Union.

No way they beat them in their new Rambling Gambling too tight shit line of site arena.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Iceberg on March 01, 2026, 05:43:55 PM
Union had little trouble with Brown this past weekend. I don't see them dropping the game in Schenectady
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Beeeej on March 02, 2026, 09:30:48 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 01, 2026, 01:10:39 PMThe ECAC clearly values regulation wins more now that they award three points.  Why shouldn't that be reflected in the standings?

It is, which is why Dartmouth and Cornell are tied in points in the first place.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 02, 2026, 10:59:05 AM
Quote from: adamw on March 01, 2026, 01:57:44 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on February 28, 2026, 11:20:21 PMDartmouth is 2 seed no? First tie breaker is head to head points

Yes.

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2 Drt
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Adam, you know I love you, but not sorting by seed (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings.php) is no bueno.

I don't know - I never have been sure that you do...

I spend thousands of hours a year on the site - but trying to code all the league's tiebreakers into the sort would take years off my life. Maybe Claude can do it now.  We do have a page with all the brackets and seeds though.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/conf/ECAC/4/bracket

I managed to code the old tie-breakers (in perl!) but I have not had the time or inclination to do anything with it since they changed the point system for 3x3 and shootouts.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 02, 2026, 11:00:40 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on February 28, 2026, 10:54:05 PMFriday, March 6

9 RPI @ 8 Clarkson

Oh how I wish the first round were still best-of-three.  That would be an epic series.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2026, 11:08:34 AM
Quote from: marty on March 01, 2026, 03:52:55 PMNo way they beat them in their new Rambling Gambling too tight shit line of site arena.

Looked exactly like Bright on streaming.  Where did they go wrong?
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: marty on March 02, 2026, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on March 02, 2026, 11:08:34 AM
Quote from: marty on March 01, 2026, 03:52:55 PMNo way they beat them in their new Rambling Gambling too tight shit line of site arena.

Looked exactly like Bright on streaming.  Where did they go wrong?


The incline was designed for a great view over the seat in front of you.  The height difference seemed to be between 30 and 36 inches - though it might be a bit less.  We were uncomfortable enough to eyeball the height.  Great for sight lines except when trying to see the far side same side faceoff circle. In addition the seats are too damn narrow.  My wife and are not wide but the friends we were with are.  I was cramped and skewed to the side as a result. My old man's spine suffered a bit.

Another companion stood for at least the third period. So at least the place was designed for adequate SRO.

I'm wondering if Jim Hyla and Tim V agree.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2026, 01:21:55 PM
I am surprised about seats.  I thought all the new places were built for High Fructose Corn Syrup Americans like me.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Give My Regards on March 02, 2026, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on March 02, 2026, 01:21:55 PMI am surprised about seats.  I thought all the new places were built for High Fructose Corn Syrup Americans like me.
Yep, it's the MAHA rink.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: Give My Regards on March 02, 2026, 01:32:08 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91 on March 02, 2026, 10:59:05 AMI managed to code the old tie-breakers (in perl!) but I have not had the time or inclination to do anything with it since they changed the point system for 3x3 and shootouts.

And I miss you every late-February, man  :(
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs 2026
Post by: TimV on March 02, 2026, 01:38:46 PM
Quote from: martyThe incline was designed for a great view over the seat in front of you.  The height difference seemed to be between 30 and 36 inches - though it might be a bit less.  We were uncomfortable enough to eyeball the height.  Great for sight lines except when trying to see the far side same side faceoff circle. In addition the seats are too damn narrow.  My wife and are not wide but the friends we were with are.  I was cramped and skewed to the side as a result. My old man's spine suffered a bit.

Another companion stood for at least the third period. So at least the place was designed for adequate SRO.

I'm wondering if Jim Hyla and Tim V agree.

So THAT'S  why my wife went to watch the game from the rail.  ???