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Title: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 13, 2026, 01:19:48 AM
All in the family, now.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 13, 2026, 02:04:59 AM
We have scored 28 goals in the last 5 games.  I went looking for as many or more over a 5-game interval in recent seasons.  There are a bunch of 25s and some 26s, and I eyeballed it, so I may have missed one, but the most recent I see of 28+ within season is 3/1-3/16/91, 30 goals over 5 games.  (10, 8, 3, 5, 4).

For our most, I found a 38 to start 1967 (14, 7, 3, 6, 8 ), 39s near the end of 1966 (5, 10, 7, 9, 8 ) and midway through 1965 (7, 19, 3, 5, 5) but I think I found our all-time high in 1968: 56 (19, 8, 6, 9, 14).

We are coming off 21 in our last 4 so we just need to hang a 35 on Princeton to tie it.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Beeeej on January 13, 2026, 08:15:35 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 13, 2026, 02:04:59 AMWe are coming off 21 in our last 4 so we just need to hang a 35 on Princeton to tie it.

'scuse me, opening Kalshi.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 13, 2026, 11:09:53 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 13, 2026, 02:04:59 AMWe are coming off 21 in our last 4 so we just need to hang a 35 on Princeton to tie it.
Tyler Catalano five goal night in the big 2026.

Yeah, that should be entirely doable. Lmao.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 13, 2026, 01:50:46 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 13, 2026, 02:04:59 AMWe have scored 28 goals in the last 5 games.  I went looking for as many or more over a 5-game interval in recent seasons.  There are a bunch of 25s and some 26s, and I eyeballed it, so I may have missed one, but the most recent I see of 28+ within season is 3/1-3/16/91, 30 goals over 5 games.  (10, 8, 3, 5, 4).

For our most, I found a 38 to start 1967 (14, 7, 3, 6, 8 ), 39s near the end of 1966 (5, 10, 7, 9, 8 ) and midway through 1965 (7, 19, 3, 5, 5) but I think I found our all-time high in 1968: 56 (19, 8, 6, 9, 14).

We are coming off 21 in our last 4 so we just need to hang a 35 on Princeton to tie it.

Yes those were the years!

Note that the end streak in 1966 included ECAC Quaterfinals against BC 9-0, Semis BU 8-1
And although not the 1967 biggest streak ECAC Quarters Brown 11-2, Semis BC 12-2
Not bad for tournament games.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 11:51:48 AM
Will the students be back for this weekend's games?  If not, I am baffled by a schedule that has Cornell playing so many home games when the students are not on campus.    Two home games on Thanksgiving getaway weekend, four non-conference home games in early January (that can be excused, I suppose) and two home games before the Spring semester begins.  I imagine the fraternities and sororities will be back this weekend for rush, but on the fraternity side, that is an ever shrinking part of the student population. And the formal rush events may conflict with the games.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: BearLover on January 15, 2026, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 11:51:48 AMWill the students be back for this weekend's games?  If not, I am baffled by a schedule that has Cornell playing so many home games when the students are not on campus.    Two home games on Thanksgiving getaway weekend, four non-conference home games in early January (that can be excused, I suppose) and two home games before the Spring semester begins.  I imagine the fraternities and sororities will be back this weekend for rush, but on the fraternity side, that is an ever shrinking part of the student population. And the formal rush events may conflict with the games.
I suspect most students will be getting back on campus this weekend, unless they're doing rush, in which case they won't be able to attend the games anyway. So I'd expect more students than the past two weekends but far from a packed house. I agree, the schedule this year has been awful. On the bright side, we're 4-0 so far during intercession, so it hasn't hurt on-ice success. But the fan support this year has been total crap and the schedule isn't helping things.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Beeeej on January 15, 2026, 11:58:47 AM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 11:51:48 AMWill the students be back for this weekend's games?  If not, I am baffled by a schedule that has Cornell playing so many home games when the students are not on campus.    Two home games on Thanksgiving getaway weekend, four non-conference home games in early January (that can be excused, I suppose) and two home games before the Spring semester begins.  I imagine the fraternities and sororities will be back this weekend for rush, but on the fraternity side, that is an ever shrinking part of the student population. And the formal rush events may conflict with the games.

"Thanksgiving getaway weekend"?? Scheduling two weekend home games for four and five days before the school's break actually starts is not baffling.

Anyway, I gather that this year's schedule is a bit of anomaly, and may be related more to Colgate's needs or other sets of travel partners' needs than to any Cornell issues. There would've been games on those weekends no matter what - so the host school's attendance would always have "suffered".
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on January 15, 2026, 11:58:47 AM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 11:51:48 AMWill the students be back for this weekend's games?  If not, I am baffled by a schedule that has Cornell playing so many home games when the students are not on campus.    Two home games on Thanksgiving getaway weekend, four non-conference home games in early January (that can be excused, I suppose) and two home games before the Spring semester begins.  I imagine the fraternities and sororities will be back this weekend for rush, but on the fraternity side, that is an ever shrinking part of the student population. And the formal rush events may conflict with the games.

"Thanksgiving getaway weekend"?? Scheduling two weekend home games for four and five days before the school's break actually starts is not baffling.

Anyway, I gather that this year's schedule is a bit of anomaly, and may be related more to Colgate's needs or other sets of travel partners' needs than to any Cornell issues. There would've been games on those weekends no matter what - so the host school's attendance would always have "suffered".
Many on this board were lamenting the low attendance for the November 21-22 games and the empty seats in the student sections and some commented that students often head home early. I never did that (it was a long time ago and I always wanted to maximize my time at Cornell rather than at home) and was surprised to hear it was a "thing."  But it was mentioned.

Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: chimpfood on January 15, 2026, 12:31:01 PM
The student section won't be more than half full this weekend. Most people back already are busy with rush stuff and everyone else tries to come back Sunday or Monday.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: The Rancor on January 15, 2026, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on January 15, 2026, 12:31:01 PMThe student section won't be more than half full this weekend. Most people back already are busy with rush stuff and everyone else tries to come back Sunday or Monday.

The buy one get one (for $3) promotion was a good idea. For unsold GA in student sections, they should do this again. Bring a friend to the game, make a fan for life.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: pjd8 on January 15, 2026, 01:41:55 PM
I do feel like students at many schools tend to leave campus earlier and get there later than I remember. Part of it is because of online classes. That definitely makes it easier to leave campus early on a break weekend. Part of it is because schools shut down services. My kid had to leave campus for Easter weekend freshman year because the dining halls were shut down. I suspect the schools are cutting cost corners where they can.

But part of it is that students don't socialize the way we used to. They socialize through their phones rather than hanging out in the dorm lounge. And they take their phones everywhere. Combine that with helicopter parenting for the last couple of decades, and it's not surprising that students don't come back on campus until the last minute. Many may be more comfortable at home.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: BearLover on January 15, 2026, 02:08:35 PM
If you're a new hockey fan curious about Cornell Hockey and Lynah traditions, good chance you'll go through the entire season without experiencing a packed house and truly loud student section outside of Harvard/Dartmouth weekend. That's really sad, it detracts from the fun of these games and one of our biggest comparative advantages (particularly in recruiting).
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 15, 2026, 02:08:35 PMIf you're a new hockey fan curious about Cornell Hockey and Lynah traditions, good chance you'll go through the entire season without experiencing a packed house and truly loud student section outside of Harvard/Dartmouth weekend. That's really sad, it detracts from the fun of these games and one of our biggest comparative advantages (particularly in recruiting).

That is sad and disappointing.  Hockey tickets were like gold in the late 70s/early 80s when I was there.  I don't think I ever missed a game in 4 years and, of course, we had to sleep outside (or had our fraternity underclassmen do so) in November to get our tickets.

Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PM
I attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Beeeej on January 15, 2026, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.

My recollection is that this was done at Coach McCutcheon's urging because he felt there was an advantage in having the scoreboard clock easily visible to the goaltender without turning, and he wanted that for two periods instead of one. I also seem to recall that the change was made after season tickets were sold (for 1987-88 I believe), so the most rabid fans purchased their seats in Sections D & E as they had been doing for years, and were absolutely livid at having only one period to yell directly at the opposing goalie rather than the rightfully expected two periods.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 15, 2026, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
Section B, which is the current main student section, is on the shoot twice side. More tauntability. Pretty standard in college hockey to have your student section/best supporters on shoot twice.

Anyway, as for the attendance: It hasn't been as great as like, mid-February games last year, but it's been solid. Especially over intersession, because who the hell wants to be up here during intersession? I'm honestly a little more concerned that the fans we DO have are quiet than the number of butts in seats. Which kinda leads back to a point that I've been intermittently making for months now - perhaps some centralization of the student section would be good. I was watching the NU/BU women's Beanpot game from Monday and NU had a whole ass student section with synchronized choreography and shit.

People are still getting back up here, for sure. Again, like - modern students will spend as much time as possible with family and come up here on MLK Day. There's no "reason" to be here early.

(Also, what are the "afterglows"? I keep getting references to them in Casey's emails. Where is the Hall of Fame room? Is this something worth attending?)
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 15, 2026, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
Section B, which is the current main student section, is on the shoot twice side. More tauntability. Pretty standard in college hockey to have your student section/best supporters on shoot twice.

Anyway, as for the attendance: It hasn't been as great as like, mid-February games last year, but it's been solid. Especially over intersession, because who the hell wants to be up here during intersession? I'm honestly a little more concerned that the fans we DO have are quiet than the number of butts in seats. Which kinda leads back to a point that I've been intermittently making for months now - perhaps some centralization of the student section would be good. I was watching the NU/BU women's Beanpot game from Monday and NU had a whole ass student section with synchronized choreography and shit.

People are still getting back up here, for sure. Again, like - modern students will spend as much time as possible with family and come up here on MLK Day. There's no "reason" to be here early.

(Also, what are the "afterglows"? I keep getting references to them in Casey's emails. Where is the Hall of Fame room? Is this something worth attending?)

I think we have a chicken/egg thing with the student sections and the shooting direction change, particularly considering Beeej's post above.  In the years I had tickets as a student - 77-81- the student sections were in the closed end as well. I sat in H as a freshman and in D and E as a sophomore to senior.  Most of the frats sat in D and E in those days and I believe the students sat in C, D, E, F, G and H .  I don't recall if A and B were student sections.  The other side of the rink -K, L M N and O were not student sections. The closed end was a zoo back then.  If the students were moved primarily to the open end in A and B, that likely came after the shooting move and after the dissatisfaction as per Beeej's post when the change was made.  It doesn't make sense to me.  Just put a mini scoreboard with score and time and penalty time in the closed end and you satisfy that issue. It was a very intimidating environment for opposing goalies to have the students on top of you and behind you.  That is apparantly now gone along with the rabid crowds of the past, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 15, 2026, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
IIRC, it was felt the goalie had a better background for seeing the puck when playing at the closed end of the rink.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Weder on January 15, 2026, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 15, 2026, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
Section B, which is the current main student section, is on the shoot twice side. More tauntability. Pretty standard in college hockey to have your student section/best supporters on shoot twice.

Anyway, as for the attendance: It hasn't been as great as like, mid-February games last year, but it's been solid. Especially over intersession, because who the hell wants to be up here during intersession? I'm honestly a little more concerned that the fans we DO have are quiet than the number of butts in seats. Which kinda leads back to a point that I've been intermittently making for months now - perhaps some centralization of the student section would be good. I was watching the NU/BU women's Beanpot game from Monday and NU had a whole ass student section with synchronized choreography and shit.

People are still getting back up here, for sure. Again, like - modern students will spend as much time as possible with family and come up here on MLK Day. There's no "reason" to be here early.

(Also, what are the "afterglows"? I keep getting references to them in Casey's emails. Where is the Hall of Fame room? Is this something worth attending?)

The afterglows are receptions with players/family. Hall of Fame room is in Schoellkopf Hall. They used to charge if you weren't a booster, but not sure if that is still the case.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 15, 2026, 04:27:31 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 15, 2026, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 15, 2026, 02:47:24 PM(Also, what are the "afterglows"? I keep getting references to them in Casey's emails. Where is the Hall of Fame room? Is this something worth attending?)

The afterglows are receptions with players/family. Hall of Fame room is in Schoellkopf Hall. They used to charge if you weren't a booster, but not sure if that is still the case.
Gotcha. I might be wrong, but I vaguely recall that one of those was supposed to happen last Saturday? (But, at least from my "hanging around the rink waiting for the bus to be a certain distance away so I don't get rained on and sick" tradition, I don't necessarily remember any of the players gearing up for that.) I also vaguely recall it might be like, $5 or $10 if you're not part of the CHA? But again, might be wrong.

Let me try to rephrase - if it's 9.30 PM on a Saturday postgame against Q, is this something that would be interesting enough to go and check out? I mean, there's always the possibility of just "go and if you don't like it dip early", right? How long does it last? Is it like, a dinner type thing, drinks? I have zero idea what to expect, lmao. (Then again, I've got to do witnessing at the law school at 8 AM the next day... so if it's super long... decisions, decisions...)
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 15, 2026, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 15, 2026, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
Section B, which is the current main student section, is on the shoot twice side. More tauntability. Pretty standard in college hockey to have your student section/best supporters on shoot twice.

Anyway, as for the attendance: It hasn't been as great as like, mid-February games last year, but it's been solid. Especially over intersession, because who the hell wants to be up here during intersession? I'm honestly a little more concerned that the fans we DO have are quiet than the number of butts in seats. Which kinda leads back to a point that I've been intermittently making for months now - perhaps some centralization of the student section would be good. I was watching the NU/BU women's Beanpot game from Monday and NU had a whole ass student section with synchronized choreography and shit.

People are still getting back up here, for sure. Again, like - modern students will spend as much time as possible with family and come up here on MLK Day. There's no "reason" to be here early.

(Also, what are the "afterglows"? I keep getting references to them in Casey's emails. Where is the Hall of Fame room? Is this something worth attending?)

I think we have a chicken/egg thing with the student sections and the shooting direction change, particularly considering Beeej's post above.  In the years I had tickets as a student - 77-81- the student sections were in the closed end as well. I sat in H as a freshman and in D and E as a sophomore to senior.  Most of the frats sat in D and E in those days and I believe the students sat in C, D, E, F, G and H .  I don't recall if A and B were student sections.  The other side of the rink -K, L M N and O were not student sections. The closed end was a zoo back then.  If the students were moved primarily to the open end in A and B, that likely came after the shooting move and after the dissatisfaction as per Beeej's post when the change was made.  It doesn't make sense to me.  Just put a mini scoreboard with score and time and penalty time in the closed end and you satisfy that issue. It was a very intimidating environment for opposing goalies to have the students on top of you and behind you.  That is apparantly now gone along with the rabid crowds of the past, unfortunately.
Aye - I mean, I'm a current (grad) student, so don't come looking to me for Lynah history :')

And there is a mini scoreboard on the far side split in half with those things on 'em... I guess that's somewhat recent?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio on January 15, 2026, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
IIRC, it was felt the goalie had a better background for seeing the puck when playing at the closed end of the rink.

That makes sense.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 15, 2026, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 15, 2026, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 15, 2026, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
Section B, which is the current main student section, is on the shoot twice side. More tauntability. Pretty standard in college hockey to have your student section/best supporters on shoot twice.

Anyway, as for the attendance: It hasn't been as great as like, mid-February games last year, but it's been solid. Especially over intersession, because who the hell wants to be up here during intersession? I'm honestly a little more concerned that the fans we DO have are quiet than the number of butts in seats. Which kinda leads back to a point that I've been intermittently making for months now - perhaps some centralization of the student section would be good. I was watching the NU/BU women's Beanpot game from Monday and NU had a whole ass student section with synchronized choreography and shit.

People are still getting back up here, for sure. Again, like - modern students will spend as much time as possible with family and come up here on MLK Day. There's no "reason" to be here early.

(Also, what are the "afterglows"? I keep getting references to them in Casey's emails. Where is the Hall of Fame room? Is this something worth attending?)

I think we have a chicken/egg thing with the student sections and the shooting direction change, particularly considering Beeej's post above.  In the years I had tickets as a student - 77-81- the student sections were in the closed end as well. I sat in H as a freshman and in D and E as a sophomore to senior.  Most of the frats sat in D and E in those days and I believe the students sat in C, D, E, F, G and H .  I don't recall if A and B were student sections.  The other side of the rink -K, L M N and O were not student sections. The closed end was a zoo back then.  If the students were moved primarily to the open end in A and B, that likely came after the shooting move and after the dissatisfaction as per Beeej's post when the change was made.  It doesn't make sense to me.  Just put a mini scoreboard with score and time and penalty time in the closed end and you satisfy that issue. It was a very intimidating environment for opposing goalies to have the students on top of you and behind you.  That is apparantly now gone along with the rabid crowds of the past, unfortunately.
Aye - I mean, I'm a current (grad) student, so don't come looking to me for Lynah history :')

And there is a mini scoreboard on the far side split in half with those things on 'em... I guess that's somewhat recent?

Unfortunately, the fans can't see it.  And a lot of the time there are people standing on the walk behind sections G & H.  I don't know if that blocks the view.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: The Rancor on January 15, 2026, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 15, 2026, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 15, 2026, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 15, 2026, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.
Section B, which is the current main student section, is on the shoot twice side. More tauntability. Pretty standard in college hockey to have your student section/best supporters on shoot twice.

Anyway, as for the attendance: It hasn't been as great as like, mid-February games last year, but it's been solid. Especially over intersession, because who the hell wants to be up here during intersession? I'm honestly a little more concerned that the fans we DO have are quiet than the number of butts in seats. Which kinda leads back to a point that I've been intermittently making for months now - perhaps some centralization of the student section would be good. I was watching the NU/BU women's Beanpot game from Monday and NU had a whole ass student section with synchronized choreography and shit.

People are still getting back up here, for sure. Again, like - modern students will spend as much time as possible with family and come up here on MLK Day. There's no "reason" to be here early.

(Also, what are the "afterglows"? I keep getting references to them in Casey's emails. Where is the Hall of Fame room? Is this something worth attending?)

I think we have a chicken/egg thing with the student sections and the shooting direction change, particularly considering Beeej's post above.  In the years I had tickets as a student - 77-81- the student sections were in the closed end as well. I sat in H as a freshman and in D and E as a sophomore to senior.  Most of the frats sat in D and E in those days and I believe the students sat in C, D, E, F, G and H .  I don't recall if A and B were student sections.  The other side of the rink -K, L M N and O were not student sections. The closed end was a zoo back then.  If the students were moved primarily to the open end in A and B, that likely came after the shooting move and after the dissatisfaction as per Beeej's post when the change was made.  It doesn't make sense to me.  Just put a mini scoreboard with score and time and penalty time in the closed end and you satisfy that issue. It was a very intimidating environment for opposing goalies to have the students on top of you and behind you.  That is apparantly now gone along with the rabid crowds of the past, unfortunately.
Aye - I mean, I'm a current (grad) student, so don't come looking to me for Lynah history :')

And there is a mini scoreboard on the far side split in half with those things on 'em... I guess that's somewhat recent?

Unfortunately, the fans can't see it.  And a lot of the time there are people standing on the walk behind sections G & H.  I don't know if that blocks the view.
They put the time and score on one side screen, and way on the other side another screen has the penalties. It is a bad set up.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 15, 2026, 11:12:31 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on January 15, 2026, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: Chousnake on January 15, 2026, 02:31:34 PMI attended games as a student from 77-81 and in 82-84 as a frequent visitor to campus.  I went to some games in the 2010-2016 years as a Cornell parent.  One thing that I never understood as I watch more games on ESPN+ from home now is why Cornell changed from shooting towards the closed end in the first and third periods.  I thought it would be more intimidating and favorable to do that.  I believe the change came after Lynah got the upgrades, but I don't remember the reason for the change in shooting direction.  Can somebody clue me in?  Thanks.

My recollection is that this was done at Coach McCutcheon's urging because he felt there was an advantage in having the scoreboard clock easily visible to the goaltender without turning, and he wanted that for two periods instead of one. I also seem to recall that the change was made after season tickets were sold (for 1987-88 I believe), so the most rabid fans purchased their seats in Sections D & E as they had been doing for years, and were absolutely livid at having only one period to yell directly at the opposing goalie rather than the rightfully expected two periods.


I could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

I do know that another thing mentioned at the time the change was made (in addition to the scoreboard issue) was the occasional bad bounce off the ice-resurfacer door. (Is it still a Zamboni door if it's not a Zamboni?) Perhaps once every season or two a puck being harmlessly played around the boards will hit that door area weirdly and pop out into open ice, completely unexpectedly, often providing an easy scoring opportunity. Changing to shoot in that direction twice doubles our chances of being on the receiving end of the lucky bounce.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 15, 2026, 11:33:57 PM
I thought it was related to Laing Kennedy's ongoing battle to get us to stop celebrating the ref's ovine intimacies.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: BlueSky on January 16, 2026, 07:07:50 AM
Quote from: chimpfood on January 15, 2026, 12:31:01 PMThe student section won't be more than half full this weekend. Most people back already are busy with rush stuff and everyone else tries to come back Sunday or Monday.

I was there last weekend and the student side sections on Saturday were 75-80% full. It will be crowded both nights.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 15, 2026, 11:12:31 PMI could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch. Remember, we had a few historically bad seasons under McCutcheon, so while most games did sell out, it wasn't as monstrous a task to get tickets as it had been (and would be again).
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: The Rancor on January 16, 2026, 09:42:33 AM
I know we had tickets going back to at least 85-86, and while I can't remember much, I do remember at some point as a whippersnapper asking my dad why we didn't get tickets closer to where Cornell shot against (where all the rowdy action was) and his response being "This way you get to see them play defense twice" We were in H. My dad was right, but, defense ain't sexy when you're a kid who doesn't know much about hockey yet.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: upprdeck on January 16, 2026, 10:58:37 AM
It was still pretty hard to get tickets in 88.  They had a 2 per person limit for new season ticket holders and they had less than 50 available from people who didn't renew.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 11:29:39 AM
Quote from: BlueSky on January 16, 2026, 07:07:50 AM
Quote from: chimpfood on January 15, 2026, 12:31:01 PMThe student section won't be more than half full this weekend. Most people back already are busy with rush stuff and everyone else tries to come back Sunday or Monday.

I was there last weekend and the student side sections on Saturday were 75-80% full. It will be crowded both nights.
Last weekend they sold student side tickets as general access.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Iceberg on January 16, 2026, 11:51:01 AM
Syer deserves credit for getting Princeton to where it is this season. The big key tonight will be to keep the Daniells line off the scoresheet.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: chimpfood on January 16, 2026, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: BlueSky on January 16, 2026, 07:07:50 AM
Quote from: chimpfood on January 15, 2026, 12:31:01 PMThe student section won't be more than half full this weekend. Most people back already are busy with rush stuff and everyone else tries to come back Sunday or Monday.

I was there last weekend and the student side sections on Saturday were 75-80% full. It will be crowded both nights.
I was there too. These games are included in the student season tickets whereas the last two weekends weren't. That means if the students haven't come back yet they can't sell the unused tickets. The majority of students are not back yet.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 01:55:55 PM
As for the Bobcats (16-4-2, 8-2-0 ECAC), Jones had a couple of words to describe them.

"It's Quinnipiac," he said.


McNally article about this weekend! (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/01/cornell-notes-pivotal-clashes-with-no-18-princeton-and-no-7-quinnipiac-await-no-13-men-s-hockey-as-ecac-play-resumes) Super informative.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 15, 2026, 11:12:31 PMI could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: pjd8 on January 16, 2026, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 15, 2026, 11:12:31 PMI could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

A little more context:

In '86 we won the ECAC championship and had a better season than we expected, mostly because the captains, Schafer, Natyshak, and Moeser (IIRC) said to the team: We're going to be good this year.

Then, the following year, we came off that high with a horrible season. Joey bolted as soon as the regular season was over (we did not make any playoffs) and got on a plane for Calgary. During that disappointing season, cheers degenerated dramatically, and profanity was a huge issue.

The solution was to boot the students out of C to divide them. They put in the butt forming seats and sold the section to booster ticketholders. The change caught students by surprise. The did move the band to F-G (Feels Good was the phrase a certain conductor used, so now I'm thinking the change might have happened in '87, because I thing the band was in F-G for the "Goalie, Sieve, Stu" cheer.)

When Schafe came on board as head coach, he changed things back for three reasons: 1. He wanted them shooting to the west twice, so they could see the only scoreboard in the rink at the time. 2. That famous Zamboni door that somehow never got fixed. 3. He wanted the band taunting the opposing goalie for two periods and be across from Section 0 sucks.

Students were indeed fuming about the loss of Section C. The university really tried to crack down on profanity, (this was when an occasional game would be televised) and they would sometimes toss individuals out of the rink, which lead to the group cheer of F*** F*** F***, S*** S*** S***, F*** S*** F*** S*** F***.

This was also during the time when the university was cracking down on Springfest, which morphed into Take Back the Slope, and finally Slope Day, due to the state change in drinking age. And for the 88-89 season, they started changing the rules about sleeping out for tickets, too. I had been in the band for three years and bought season tickets that year, and the guys I was going to stand in line with were pissed about losing the tradition that year, as they really looked forward to it. That was the start of the bonding process amongst the Faithful.

All of this has contributed to the lack of intensity in Lynah from the glory days. Having a generation glued to their phones has only intensified the trajectory.



Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 01:55:55 PMAs for the Bobcats (16-4-2, 8-2-0 ECAC), Jones had a couple of words to describe them.

"It's Quinnipiac," he said.


McNally article about this weekend! (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/01/cornell-notes-pivotal-clashes-with-no-18-princeton-and-no-7-quinnipiac-await-no-13-men-s-hockey-as-ecac-play-resumes) Super informative.

Breaking News: Daily Sun's editing still crappy
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 04:08:15 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 03:36:54 PMBreaking News: Daily Sun's editing still crappy

"Ithaca's Only Morning Sickness."
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: pjd8 on January 16, 2026, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 15, 2026, 11:12:31 PMI could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

A little more context:

In '86 we won the ECAC championship and had a better season than we expected, mostly because the captains, Schafer, Natyshak, and Moeser (IIRC) said to the team: We're going to be good this year.

Then, the following year, we came off that high with a horrible season. Joey bolted as soon as the regular season was over (we did not make any playoffs) and got on a plane for Calgary. During that disappointing season, cheers degenerated dramatically, and profanity was a huge issue.

The solution was to boot the students out of C to divide them. They put in the butt forming seats and sold the section to booster ticketholders. The change caught students by surprise. The did move the band to F-G (Feels Good was the phrase a certain conductor used, so now I'm thinking the change might have happened in '87, because I thing the band was in F-G for the "Goalie, Sieve, Stu" cheer.)

When Schafe came on board as head coach, he changed things back for three reasons: 1. He wanted them shooting to the west twice, so they could see the only scoreboard in the rink at the time. 2. That famous Zamboni door that somehow never got fixed. 3. He wanted the band taunting the opposing goalie for two periods and be across from Section 0 sucks.

Students were indeed fuming about the loss of Section C. The university really tried to crack down on profanity, (this was when an occasional game would be televised) and they would sometimes toss individuals out of the rink, which lead to the group cheer of F*** F*** F***, S*** S*** S***, F*** S*** F*** S*** F***.

This was also during the time when the university was cracking down on Springfest, which morphed into Take Back the Slope, and finally Slope Day, due to the state change in drinking age. And for the 88-89 season, they started changing the rules about sleeping out for tickets, too. I had been in the band for three years and bought season tickets that year, and the guys I was going to stand in line with were pissed about losing the tradition that year, as they really looked forward to it. That was the start of the bonding process amongst the Faithful.

All of this has contributed to the lack of intensity in Lynah from the glory days. Having a generation glued to their phones has only intensified the trajectory.





So are you saying that I'm actually right and that the change to shoot West for two periods was, in fact, made when Schafer took over as head coach, and that what Beeeej is remembering is the students being upset at losing section C?

(I was perfectly willing to accept my wrongness, and just stand here being wrong - bonus points for those that get the reference - but it sounds like you, pjd8, are saying I was right.)

Or are you saying they changed at some point as Beeeej remembers, changed back before Schafer arrived, and then changed back again when Schafer arrived? (In which case Beeeej and I would both be right.)
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: pjd8 on January 16, 2026, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 15, 2026, 11:12:31 PMI could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

A little more context:

In '86 we won the ECAC championship and had a better season than we expected, mostly because the captains, Schafer, Natyshak, and Moeser (IIRC) said to the team: We're going to be good this year.

Then, the following year, we came off that high with a horrible season. Joey bolted as soon as the regular season was over (we did not make any playoffs) and got on a plane for Calgary. During that disappointing season, cheers degenerated dramatically, and profanity was a huge issue.

The solution was to boot the students out of C to divide them. They put in the butt forming seats and sold the section to booster ticketholders. The change caught students by surprise. The did move the band to F-G (Feels Good was the phrase a certain conductor used, so now I'm thinking the change might have happened in '87, because I thing the band was in F-G for the "Goalie, Sieve, Stu" cheer.)

When Schafe came on board as head coach, he changed things back for three reasons: 1. He wanted them shooting to the west twice, so they could see the only scoreboard in the rink at the time. 2. That famous Zamboni door that somehow never got fixed. 3. He wanted the band taunting the opposing goalie for two periods and be across from Section 0 sucks.

Students were indeed fuming about the loss of Section C. The university really tried to crack down on profanity, (this was when an occasional game would be televised) and they would sometimes toss individuals out of the rink, which lead to the group cheer of F*** F*** F***, S*** S*** S***, F*** S*** F*** S*** F***.

This was also during the time when the university was cracking down on Springfest, which morphed into Take Back the Slope, and finally Slope Day, due to the state change in drinking age. And for the 88-89 season, they started changing the rules about sleeping out for tickets, too. I had been in the band for three years and bought season tickets that year, and the guys I was going to stand in line with were pissed about losing the tradition that year, as they really looked forward to it. That was the start of the bonding process amongst the Faithful.

All of this has contributed to the lack of intensity in Lynah from the glory days. Having a generation glued to their phones has only intensified the trajectory.





So are you saying that I'm actually right and that the change to shoot West for two periods was, in fact, made when Schafer took over as head coach, and that what Beeeej is remembering is the students being upset at losing section C?

(I was perfectly willing to accept my wrongness, and just stand here being wrong - bonus points for those that get the reference - but it sounds like you, pjd8, are saying I was right.)

Or are you saying they changed at some point as Beeeej remembers, changed back before Schafer arrived, and then changed back again when Schafer arrived? (In which case Beeeej and I would both be right.)

+1, "The West Wing"
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: pjd8 on January 16, 2026, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: pjd8 on January 16, 2026, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on January 16, 2026, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 15, 2026, 11:12:31 PMI could be wrong about this first part, but I thought that the change to shoot twice at the open end happened when Schafer came for the '95-'96 season. I came back to Ithaca for the 1990-91 season and before I was able to become a booster and pay a premium to sit in Section C, I had season tickets in B. I don't think I would have been able to get seats in B if B was the premier student section that it is now (and that D had been until the switch.)

You are incorrect about the first part. The very first game I went to in spring of 1988, people were still fuming about the switch.

Ok. I must just be wrong.

I know my ex-wife and I sat in B in 1990-91, but thinking back on it more, it's possible that our seats were elsewhere and we were just sneaking into B, which would make sense since it was the best student section and we were only a handful of years removed from being students.

A little more context:

In '86 we won the ECAC championship and had a better season than we expected, mostly because the captains, Schafer, Natyshak, and Moeser (IIRC) said to the team: We're going to be good this year.

Then, the following year, we came off that high with a horrible season. Joey bolted as soon as the regular season was over (we did not make any playoffs) and got on a plane for Calgary. During that disappointing season, cheers degenerated dramatically, and profanity was a huge issue.

The solution was to boot the students out of C to divide them. They put in the butt forming seats and sold the section to booster ticketholders. The change caught students by surprise. The did move the band to F-G (Feels Good was the phrase a certain conductor used, so now I'm thinking the change might have happened in '87, because I thing the band was in F-G for the "Goalie, Sieve, Stu" cheer.)

When Schafe came on board as head coach, he changed things back for three reasons: 1. He wanted them shooting to the west twice, so they could see the only scoreboard in the rink at the time. 2. That famous Zamboni door that somehow never got fixed. 3. He wanted the band taunting the opposing goalie for two periods and be across from Section 0 sucks.

Students were indeed fuming about the loss of Section C. The university really tried to crack down on profanity, (this was when an occasional game would be televised) and they would sometimes toss individuals out of the rink, which lead to the group cheer of F*** F*** F***, S*** S*** S***, F*** S*** F*** S*** F***.

This was also during the time when the university was cracking down on Springfest, which morphed into Take Back the Slope, and finally Slope Day, due to the state change in drinking age. And for the 88-89 season, they started changing the rules about sleeping out for tickets, too. I had been in the band for three years and bought season tickets that year, and the guys I was going to stand in line with were pissed about losing the tradition that year, as they really looked forward to it. That was the start of the bonding process amongst the Faithful.

All of this has contributed to the lack of intensity in Lynah from the glory days. Having a generation glued to their phones has only intensified the trajectory.





So are you saying that I'm actually right and that the change to shoot West for two periods was, in fact, made when Schafer took over as head coach, and that what Beeeej is remembering is the students being upset at losing section C?

(I was perfectly willing to accept my wrongness, and just stand here being wrong - bonus points for those that get the reference - but it sounds like you, pjd8, are saying I was right.)

Or are you saying they changed at some point as Beeeej remembers, changed back before Schafer arrived, and then changed back again when Schafer arrived? (In which case Beeeej and I would both be right.)

My memory on when it changed to having the band in F-G and changing C to boosters might be a year off, but I think it was in response to that super crappy year that was Reycroft's last. I did conduct the band in F-G, which would have been 87-88 (and some Fall 88). It also fits in with the kind of thing McCutcheon would do (it might not have been his idea, though). He probably had decent reasons if he instigated any of the changes, but he never was great with the intangibles. Which is why the team had some reasonable success during his tenure but never reached what we saw as our players' full potential. Whereas Schafe always "got it".

I have a more vivid memory of Schafe putting it back to the way it was when he was playing (his senior year was my freshman year, band in A, hard core students in B rather than D, but C did not revert back to students like it was in 85-86), because I was on campus as a grad student and active in the boosters. So there was a lot of "glory days" buzz about him coming in and then of the changes he was making. And the buzz was realized!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 05:00:08 PM
Quote from: pjd8 on January 16, 2026, 04:53:45 PMI have a more vivid memory of Schafe putting it back to the way it was when he was playing (his senior year was my freshman year, band in A, hard core students in B rather than D, but C did not revert back to students like it was in 85-86), because I was on campus as a grad student and active in the boosters. So there was a lot of "glory days" buzz about him coming in and then of the changes he was making. And the buzz was realized!


Ok. This part of it - what you are saying about the way it was when Schafer played (shooting West twice) - I do know you have wrong, pjd8.

I was here the same years as Mike - freshman in 1982, graduated in 1986. For 100% of that time we shot East (towards the closed end of the rink) for two of three periods, and section D was the premier student section.

I will add that I am almost certain the band was in A all of this time (1982-1986), so you may be conflating the band move, which I'm sure you are on top of, with the shooting twice end move.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: JasonN95 on January 16, 2026, 05:09:57 PM
I'm class of '95, so the last four years of Brian McC before Schafer came in. For my whole time the prime students sections were A and B with Cornell attacking the open end of the horseshoe twice. Schafer did not change that.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 05:29:17 PM
Quote from: JasonN95 on January 16, 2026, 05:09:57 PMI'm class of '95, so the last four years of Brian McC before Schafer came in. For my whole time the prime students sections were A and B with Cornell attacking the open end of the horseshoe twice. Schafer did not change that.

Excellent! Glad this is settled! Thanks.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 06:21:31 PM
Only on eLynah...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 06:24:36 PM
Courns first on the ice. Hamilton drawing in.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 06:45:09 PM
The band is back... 🥹🥹🥹
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 06:51:28 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 06:45:09 PMThe band is back... 🥹🥹🥹

Yup.
Looks like a full contingent, or close to it.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 06:51:36 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 06:45:09 PMThe band is back... 🥹🥹🥹

Yup. Looks like a full contingent, or close to it.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F5f%2F23%2Fca%2F5f23cab3f497ea86e4ac4983ff2acc91.jpg&f=1&ipt=3c3702948eaab817cb3a1308a7628ed465f7c8f85c03bcadbcd5aef2c7be4d41)
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 07:03:23 PM
A and B looking thin...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:06:42 PM
1-0, them.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:06:42 PM1-0, them.
Courns made the save, rebound trickled, wide net, he dove for it but couldn't get there.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:11:47 PM
C is filling up...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 07:24:52 PM
Catalano hulked out in that scrum and ripped the jersey of the Princeton player right down the chest. :o
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 07:28:32 PM
Tiger forecheck relentless.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 07:29:52 PM
Teams are contesting every loose puck like it's March.  Great game so far.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:31:28 PM
DeSantis draws a trip with 1.57 to go.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 07:24:52 PMCatalano hulked out in that scrum and ripped the jersey of the Princeton player right down the chest. :o
For real? 👀
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:36:23 PM
Shots 11-5 in favor of Princeton. Dear god, hit the net.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:37:02 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:36:23 PMShots 11-5 in favor of Princeton. Dear god, hit the net.

This goalie looks beatable. We're just not connecting.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 07:37:59 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 07:24:52 PMCatalano hulked out in that scrum and ripped the jersey of the Princeton player right down the chest. :o
For real? 👀

Yup: the collar was torn in two and his shoulder pads were coming out.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:11:47 PMC is filling up...

Your side maybe a little. The other side not so much.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:48:27 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 07:37:59 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 07:24:52 PMCatalano hulked out in that scrum and ripped the jersey of the Princeton player right down the chest. :o
For real? 👀

Yup: the collar was torn in two and his shoulder pads were coming out.
Damn... did NOT see that.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:49:06 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:11:47 PMC is filling up...

Your side maybe a little. The other side not so much.
Yeah, there's a collection starting here. Mostly guys, from the voices. The far side never really fills.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:50:41 PM
Holy crap there's a guy here in a HAMILTON 26 jersey. Multiple. Gotta be family, right?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 07:50:41 PMHoly crap there's a guy here in a HAMILTON 26 jersey. Multiple. Gotta be family, right?
Soitanly.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 07:55:30 PM
Currently

Cournoyer : Our D Men :: Teacher : Kindergartners
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 07:57:15 PM
Second penalty drawn by aggressive forechecking forwards (Catalano, Kraft).
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:00:06 PM
Much better-looking power play.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:00:12 PM
Looks like we're finding our groove.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:00:23 PM
Lots of good chances.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:00:12 PMLooks like we're finding our groove.
We have woken from our dogmatic slumber.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:00:12 PMLooks like we're finding our groove.
We have woken from our dogmatic slumber.
And to the PK.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:06:17 PM
Tyler Catalano quickly becoming the most hated man in New Jersey.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:09:38 PM
Long draws one. PP time
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:10:12 PM
And again.  Long.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:10:46 PM
Did they just call Princeton #4, Aiden Long, for interference?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:12:31 PM
CATOOOOO
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:12:31 PMCATOOOOO
Looked like Ryan, but Pirtle took the line. Assuming he tipped it.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:15:53 PM
Devlin's mom rocking the half-and-half Cornell/Princeton jersey.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:16:20 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:12:31 PMCATOOOOO
Looked like Ryan, but Pirtle took the line. Assuming he tipped it.
Yep, I heard the deflection from over here in L.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:16:45 PM
They gave it to Pirtle.

Do we have 2 sets of brothers tonight?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:17:22 PM
Also, what is the most famous brother fight in the NHL?  My money is on Suters.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:18:25 PM
Castagna absolutely clipped their 14. Looked like it hit his knee. To the PK we go.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:19:11 PM
Scary looking knee-on-knee collision, but I'm not sure who was at fault. Castagna is already in the box, but The refs may be reviewing it.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:19:29 PM
Shit.  That was at best negligent.  They should probably kick him out.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:18:25 PMCastagna absolutely clipped their 14. Looked like it hit his knee. To the PK we go.
Thank god it's only 2
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Iceberg on January 16, 2026, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:15:53 PMDevlin's mom rocking the half-and-half Cornell/Princeton jersey.

I saw their whole group when I was having dinner earlier. Thought it was just a random bunch of Cornell fans until I saw people with orange, too
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:20:22 PM
PU is gonna take some revenge against Casty later.  It is The Code.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:20:41 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:19:11 PMScary looking knee-on-knee collision, but I'm not sure who was at fault. Castagna is already in the box, but The refs may be reviewing it.

Nope, just a minor penalty.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:20:51 PM
Kraft channeling Randy MacFarlane.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:21:20 PM
Longer hurt. Or at least heavy HEAVY hit.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:22:08 PM
Long's back on the ice! Woot.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:22:32 PM
Shots 17-5 in our favor so far this period. Glad we found another gear.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:23:27 PM
Kraft is playing like Ben Syer personally pissed in his Wheaties.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:20:41 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:19:11 PMScary looking knee-on-knee collision, but I'm not sure who was at fault. Castagna is already in the box, but The refs may be reviewing it.

Nope, just a minor penalty.
So lucky.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:25:39 PM
It's a good thing Ben and Casey are friends.  If this was Pecker...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:29:00 PM
I would like the second period Red to come out for the third, please.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:30:21 PM
Castagna on FO tonight:  16-4.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:32:57 PM
Q 4 Gate 0
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:33:34 PM
Knights 2 Green 1
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: ugarte on January 16, 2026, 08:33:50 PM
Listened while I was watching the wrestling team beat Army (more later on the other channel) and now I'll have the third period on mute while I watch The Pitt with may wayf.

Very nice deflection from Pirtle.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:30:21 PMCastagna on FO tonight:  16-4.
Castagna on faceoffs:
Step 1: Put stick down
Step 2: End up on the ice
Step 3: ? ? ?
Step 4: Profit.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:39:20 PM
Dear God I almost forgot how it feels to have the row behind me full of guys
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:39:20 PMDear God I almost forgot how it feels to have the row behind me full of guys
-- Bonnie Blue?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:39:20 PMDear God I almost forgot how it feels to have the row behind me full of guys
-- Bonnie Blue?
Looked it up and every picture was pixelated...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:39:20 PMDear God I almost forgot how it feels to have the row behind me full of guys
-- Bonnie Blue?
Looked it up and every picture was pixelated...
Consider yourself fortunate.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:44:45 PM
17-4.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:45:40 PM
18-4.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:46:35 PM
Caton Ryan created that chance out of nothing.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:50:05 PM
"He doesn't like that."  ;D
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:54:40 PM
We had them on the run there for a while.  4 excellent shifts in a row, one by each line.  Playing great; keep on top of them.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:56:03 PM
This feels very Lake Placidy.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 08:57:11 PM
Catalano boarded a guy, but somehow it didn't get called.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:57:30 PM
Catalano in the shadows: 6-0 on FO.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:00:01 PM
Girl from the band has a much better sounding cowbell and actual rhythm! Quite an improvement over whoever was doing it in the fall.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:00:28 PM
Dartmouth has tied Clarkson.  Yale hanging a 7 on RPI, sorry Ralph.  :-(
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:01:05 PM
This Rudsak ad is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:02:25 PM
Castagna has words for the refs after he got dragged to the ice with a stick firmly around his midsection during a scoring chance.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:03:50 PM
Again, creating a chance from nothing.  These guys are so impressive.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:06:06 PM
XV still committing more turnovers than I would like  :-\
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:09:36 PM
STANLEYYY
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Iceberg on January 16, 2026, 09:09:58 PM
Stanley just said forget about shooting, I'm just going to skate it to the net. Nice goal
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:10:11 PM
Hoyt goes full Malinski!! a little razzle dazzle ankle breaking at the blue line and then he drives to the net with a beautiful move and scores on the back hand!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Dafatone on January 16, 2026, 09:10:17 PM
You know a no-call is bad when the opposing players all expect play to stop when they touch up.

Stanley!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:10:36 PM
WHAT AN EFFORT!!!!!

I defy any of you to take His name in vain again.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:11:04 PM
Scrum!!!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:11:24 PM
Ryan to the box and maybe their 26?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:11:24 PMRyan to the box and maybe their 26?
Two of theirs. Let's go.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:12:25 PM
Princeton gets the extra penalty in that scrum so a power-play to us!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:12:46 PM
Wow, that was pretty intense.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:13:34 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:11:24 PMRyan to the box and maybe their 26?
Two of theirs. Let's go.
Walsh for tripping. That was a PP...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:13:55 PM
And Walsh takes an offensive zone penalty quickly so we're at four on four until Princeton pulls the goalie.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:14:06 PM
And that's how you play even it up.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:15:07 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:14:06 PMAnd that's how you play even it up.
Nah fr like. That shit doesn't get called 99% of the time.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:16:46 PM
Princeton now sieveless.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:17:10 PM
Alexis with a little jab to the ribs of the Princeton player  ;D
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:17:19 PM
Need the FO magic now.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:18:27 PM
Excellent D work on that shift.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:19:52 PM
Shattie doing Shattie things and botching faceoffs while Casey tears into him.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:20:05 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:17:10 PMAlexis with a little jab to the ribs of the Princeton player  ;D
If it were possible for me to love him more...
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:20:50 PM
SOMEHOW that stayed out.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:21:20 PM
Yikes: Daniells had a lot of net to shoot at, but he lifted the backhand over the top.

Maybe Hoyt can give him some pointers!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:21:42 PM
We can ice now.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:22:59 PM
Best win of the season so far.  Great job guys.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Dafatone on January 16, 2026, 09:23:26 PM
Nice win.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: Iceberg on January 16, 2026, 09:25:13 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:19:52 PMShattie doing Shattie things and botching faceoffs while Casey tears into him.

The officials had a mixed night. Syer was laying into them even right before the handshakes
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:26:14 PM
Nice of Ned take some photos of the Devlins with Mom!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:38:07 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:19:52 PMShattie doing Shattie things and botching faceoffs while Casey tears into him.
Known offender?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Princeton, 1/16/26
Post by: ugarte on January 16, 2026, 09:40:30 PM
Stanley goal was so nice. Still can't believe that Daniell put that puck right into Corny's glove.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:42:21 PM
He
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 09:38:07 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:19:52 PMShattie doing Shattie things and botching faceoffs while Casey tears into him.
Known offender?
He has a tendency to make himself the "star" of the faceoff circle. Main character syndrome, if you will.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 09:45:29 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:26:14 PMNice of Ned take some photos of the Devlins with Mom!

Captured the moment from M.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PM
So the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Snowball on January 16, 2026, 09:49:42 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:22:59 PMBest win of the season so far.  Great job guys.

Absolutely.

Fantastic goal for Stanley, his partner Vielleux was calling for it but with poise he skated it in dodged defenders and nailed it.

And Kraft was like a mad man out there: loved it.

What a privilege to have been at Lynah tonight.

I hope my daughter decides to do a PHD...
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
Dedication.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: BearLover on January 16, 2026, 10:30:02 PM
On the Princeton goal, seemed like a bad rebound for Cournoyer to give up (the point shot didn't seem particularly hard) but Fegaras also seemed to lose and/or was lackadaisical defending his man, the ultimate goal scorer.

Glad Casey read my posts about putting Pirtle in.

People forget Stanley put up good offensive numbers in the BCHL. Glad the fourth line was on the ice to get rewarded with some pluses.

Cournoyer looked good in the parts of the game I was able to watch. Princeton missed some point blank opportunities in the final minutes though.

The missed trip on DeSantis about 25 seconds before the go-ahead goal was absurd. Then the double penalty call on Princeton with under three minutes to go was perhaps more absurd. Walsh's tripping penalty on the PP was a horrible mistake, but the right call.

I am skeptical of this Cornell team, and I suspect our metrics are quite a bit worse than those of Quinnipiac, who seems like the best team in the league by a good amount, but we'll see how tomorrow goes. Very happy with where we sit but we're in many close games against not amazing opposition and things have been breaking our way.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: RichH on January 16, 2026, 10:48:41 PM
One heartening trend this season is finding ways to get the late goals. In some other recent promising years, we always seemed to back our way into regulation ties in games we outplayed the opponent.

Princeton played with more fire than I've seen them have in a long time. The last two minutes had playoff energy from both teams. In other seasons, Daniells doesn't miss that backhand.

Great win, they'll be fired up for us at Baker.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: RichH on January 16, 2026, 10:51:15 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.

It's odd, because I saw Ryan throwing some extra chops/crosschecks. Ezman must have done/said more?
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: ACM on January 16, 2026, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
This is more Greg's fantasy than anything else. The actual call is attached.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: ACM on January 16, 2026, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
This is more Greg's fantasy than anything else. The actual call is attached.
So two Princeton players both got minors for roughing... which lines up with what I recall hearing at the rink.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: ACM on January 16, 2026, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
This is more Greg's fantasy than anything else. The actual call is attached.
So two Princeton players both got minors for roughing... which lines up with what I recall hearing at the rink.

You know you just quoted the guy you were hearing it from, right? :)
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 11:28:20 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: ACM on January 16, 2026, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
This is more Greg's fantasy than anything else. The actual call is attached.
So two Princeton players both got minors for roughing... which lines up with what I recall hearing at the rink.

You know you just quoted the guy you were hearing it from, right? :)
I know, haha! :)

Just not sure where the second rough came from, because we saw Ryan and I think Ezman tangled up, but the other guy I don't recall seeing in a fight?
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 11:28:20 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 16, 2026, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: ACM on January 16, 2026, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
This is more Greg's fantasy than anything else. The actual call is attached.
So two Princeton players both got minors for roughing... which lines up with what I recall hearing at the rink.

You know you just quoted the guy you were hearing it from, right? :)
I know, haha! :)

Just not sure where the second rough came from, because we saw Ryan and I think Ezman tangled up, but the other guy I don't recall seeing in a fight?

Before it was apparent that Princeton was getting two penalties, Casey was really giving it to the refs, to the point where I was afraid he might get a bench minor.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: chimpfood on January 16, 2026, 11:58:40 PM
That Stanley goal was disgusting. Main thing is that we just need to be quicker to move the puck out of our D zone but that's a great win overall. Quinnipiac tomorrow should be a fantastic game, they are a legit national championship contender in my eyes, and it seems like there's a real hate between the two teams.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 17, 2026, 12:12:57 AM
Schafer and Pecknold worked together at skills camps and respected each other, so that helped tamp it down.  That's gone now.  It may become more ahem spirited.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 17, 2026, 12:15:21 AM
Quote from: ACM on January 16, 2026, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
This is more Greg's fantasy than anything else. The actual call is attached.

I read it verbatim off this (https://www.uscho.com/gameday/division-i-men/2025-2026/2026-01-16/princeton-vs-cornell) which has since been changed.

Fantasy?  Okay.

Mine?  No.

I'm sorry I didn't get a screenshot, JFC.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 12:46:23 AM
Pretty horrid attendance again tonight...not just the student sections (which were over half empty), but also E/F/G/H/I/J/K have been half empty all year...need to do something about this. 9-0 at Lynah and nobody there to see it...
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: chimpfood on January 17, 2026, 12:57:00 AM
Thought I saw Jack Malone at the game today, he plays for the Utica comets so maybe it was him
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: The Rancor on January 17, 2026, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: JasonN95 on January 16, 2026, 05:09:57 PMI'm class of '95, so the last four years of Brian McC before Schafer came in. For my whole time the prime students sections were A and B with Cornell attacking the open end of the horseshoe twice. Schafer did not change that.

 We sat in H and I can confirm this to be the case.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: adamw on January 17, 2026, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: BearLover on January 16, 2026, 10:30:02 PMOn the Princeton goal, seemed like a bad rebound for Cournoyer to give up (the point shot didn't seem particularly hard) but Fegaras also seemed to lose and/or was lackadaisical defending his man, the ultimate goal scorer.

Glad Casey read my posts about putting Pirtle in.

People forget Stanley put up good offensive numbers in the BCHL. Glad the fourth line was on the ice to get rewarded with some pluses.

Cournoyer looked good in the parts of the game I was able to watch. Princeton missed some point blank opportunities in the final minutes though.

The missed trip on DeSantis about 25 seconds before the go-ahead goal was absurd. Then the double penalty call on Princeton with under three minutes to go was perhaps more absurd. Walsh's tripping penalty on the PP was a horrible mistake, but the right call.

I am skeptical of this Cornell team, and I suspect our metrics are quite a bit worse than those of Quinnipiac, who seems like the best team in the league by a good amount, but we'll see how tomorrow goes. Very happy with where we sit but we're in many close games against not amazing opposition and things have been breaking our way.

Cornell shot edge per game ... 5.4
Quinnipiac ... 12.6

Cornell's number is very good. I don't think there's a need to be skeptical. You're right, however, that Quinnipiac's number is better. 12.6 is an ungodly difference, really. So compared to QU, Cornell's looks way off. But that's because of QU, not because of Cornell.

Going further, Quinnipiac is No. 1 in the country in Corsi For% (shot attempts / (shot attempts / shots allowed)) at 59.5% ... Cornell is 13th at 54.4% (Union is 2nd by the way and Dartmouth is 12 -- and all of this should probably be adjusted for SOS - but 3,4,5 is Michigan State, Western Michigan and Wisconsin)

That number in "Close" games is better for Cornell, as it jumps to 8th, while QU remains No. 1.

When you go to actual goals for/against - Cornell is 4th nationally in that ratio, and QU is 6th.

This makes sense when you look at things like xGA+ - where Cornell's goalies have significantly out-performed Quinnipiac's.

That's all I got.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: adamw on January 17, 2026, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: BearLover on January 16, 2026, 10:30:02 PMOn the Princeton goal, seemed like a bad rebound for Cournoyer to give up (the point shot didn't seem particularly hard) but Fegaras also seemed to lose and/or was lackadaisical defending his man, the ultimate goal scorer.

Glad Casey read my posts about putting Pirtle in.

People forget Stanley put up good offensive numbers in the BCHL. Glad the fourth line was on the ice to get rewarded with some pluses.

Cournoyer looked good in the parts of the game I was able to watch. Princeton missed some point blank opportunities in the final minutes though.

The missed trip on DeSantis about 25 seconds before the go-ahead goal was absurd. Then the double penalty call on Princeton with under three minutes to go was perhaps more absurd. Walsh's tripping penalty on the PP was a horrible mistake, but the right call.

I am skeptical of this Cornell team, and I suspect our metrics are quite a bit worse than those of Quinnipiac, who seems like the best team in the league by a good amount, but we'll see how tomorrow goes. Very happy with where we sit but we're in many close games against not amazing opposition and things have been breaking our way.

Cornell shot edge per game ... 5.4
Quinnipiac ... 12.6

Cornell's number is very good. I don't think there's a need to be skeptical. You're right, however, that Quinnipiac's number is better. 12.6 is an ungodly difference, really. So compared to QU, Cornell's looks way off. But that's because of QU, not because of Cornell.

Going further, Quinnipiac is No. 1 in the country in Corsi For% (shot attempts / (shot attempts / shots allowed)) at 59.5% ... Cornell is 13th at 54.4% (Union is 2nd by the way and Dartmouth is 12 -- and all of this should probably be adjusted for SOS - but 3,4,5 is Michigan State, Western Michigan and Wisconsin)

That number in "Close" games is better for Cornell, as it jumps to 8th, while QU remains No. 1.

When you go to actual goals for/against - Cornell is 4th nationally in that ratio, and QU is 6th.

This makes sense when you look at things like xGA+ - where Cornell's goalies have significantly out-performed Quinnipiac's.

That's all I got.

Thanks for the stats. To be clear, I buy that Cornell is a good team. What I'm skeptical of is them being the 9th best team in the country. (I realize NPI isn't measuring that, but my point is that their ranking is inflated due to having had good luck.)

Notably Cornell has played the 47th hardest schedule in the country. (Quinnipiac has played the 49th hardest.) A 5.4 shot edge per game vs the 47th hardest schedule doesn't sound very impressive.*

As mentioned, I think Q is the best team in the conference by a significant amount, while I think Cornell is second. I've been a seller on Dartmouth and Princeton the whole season and I'm not surprised they've both been regressing. We are probably a bubble team. But if we win today, we'll actually have a good amount of breathing room both in the ECAC and in the NPI. 
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Trotsky on January 17, 2026, 12:26:43 PM
Quote from: adamw on January 17, 2026, 10:09:11 AMThat's all I got.

That's a great haul as it is!   :P
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: adamw on January 17, 2026, 12:53:48 PM
FWIW - I just ran some other super secret numbers - and my rudimentary analysis of those shows some things like ...

Quinnipiac is top 10 in the country in things like "defending opponent controlled entries" and "contested loose puck win %" and "o-zone controlled entries leading to scoring chances"

Cornell is middle of the pack in all three on that.

Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: VIEWfromK on January 17, 2026, 02:15:52 PM
That was definitely an ECAC game last night.  There was pressure on the puck all night.  Cornell got behind the Princeton defense a couple of times early but couldn't capitalize.  The best chance being Veilleux on the two on one but the puck took its time getting to him and the Princeton goalie had time to get in position to make the save.

Princeton controlled the middle ten minutes of that first period.  I thought Cournoyer was battling the puck the entire first period.  He didn't look very comfortable and struggled to make any clean saves.  He even kicked a rebound right back into the slot and I'm not sure I've seen him do that too much this year.  He did seem to settle down but I also think that Cornell clamped down because there weren't a lot of shots toward Cournoyer the rest of the game. 

Princeton did a nice job blocking shots and forcing bad decisions.  I saw a lot of Cornell passes go into teammates skates or go to the opposition.  Their goalie looked pretty solid.  He made that terrific back door save on Veilleux in the second.  There just weren't second opportunities when pucks got through to him.

That was an amazing goal by Stanley.  The points have really been piling up for him these past two weeks.

They have shown the ability so far to win games late.  Hopefully that serves them well when they get into March.

This is going to be a nice test for them tonight.  I'm excited to see how they rise to the occasion against Quinnipiac
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Tom Lento on January 17, 2026, 09:08:50 PM
Quote from: adamw on January 17, 2026, 12:53:48 PMFWIW - I just ran some other super secret numbers - and my rudimentary analysis of those shows some things like ...

Quinnipiac is top 10 in the country in things like "defending opponent controlled entries" and "contested loose puck win %" and "o-zone controlled entries leading to scoring chances"

Cornell is middle of the pack in all three on that.

Make of that what you will.

That lines up with what I saw in tonight's game. Quinnipiac just looked more controlled through the neutral zone and on zone entries than Cornell pretty much throughout.

I thought Cornell was a little better on the forecheck and Quinnipiac was maybe a little sloppier in the defensive zone, but the differences there were not as stark.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 18, 2026, 06:44:17 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 16, 2026, 08:39:20 PMDear God I almost forgot how it feels to have the row behind me full of guys
-- Bonnie Blue?
Looked it up and every picture was pixelated...
Consider yourself fortunate.
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I just wanna look up my hockey players dude 😭😭😭
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: Give My Regards on January 19, 2026, 08:37:46 AM
Quote from: stereax on January 18, 2026, 06:44:17 PMI just wanna look up my hockey players dude 😭😭😭

I suppose Aiden Long is next...
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 19, 2026, 09:42:45 AM
Quote from: Give My Regards on January 19, 2026, 08:37:46 AM
Quote from: stereax on January 18, 2026, 06:44:17 PMI just wanna look up my hockey players dude 😭😭😭

I suppose Aiden Long is next...
No, Longer has a normal enough search result. Our Long, there's a baseball guy with the same name, a few record check things. This is the worst I could find (https://vancouversun.com/news/this-brick-throwing-feces-smearing-offender-has-terrorized-nanaimo-bc-for-years), and that guy has a different last name.

Hiscock, on the other hand, goes straight to porn sites 😭 but once you get past the image results, it's all our guy.

Did y'all know he won a U20 world championship in ball hockey?
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: sah67 on January 19, 2026, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 19, 2026, 09:42:45 AM
Quote from: Give My Regards on January 19, 2026, 08:37:46 AM
Quote from: stereax on January 18, 2026, 06:44:17 PMI just wanna look up my hockey players dude 😭😭😭

I suppose Aiden Long is next...
No, Longer has a normal enough search result. Our Long, there's a baseball guy with the same name, a few record check things. This is the worst I could find (https://vancouversun.com/news/this-brick-throwing-feces-smearing-offender-has-terrorized-nanaimo-bc-for-years), and that guy has a different last name.

Hiscock, on the other hand, goes straight to porn sites 😭 but once you get past the image results, it's all our guy.

Did y'all know he won a U20 world championship in ball hockey?

No way I'm Googling "Hiscock ball hockey".
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 19, 2026, 12:16:36 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 19, 2026, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 19, 2026, 09:42:45 AM
Quote from: Give My Regards on January 19, 2026, 08:37:46 AM
Quote from: stereax on January 18, 2026, 06:44:17 PMI just wanna look up my hockey players dude 😭😭😭

I suppose Aiden Long is next...
No, Longer has a normal enough search result. Our Long, there's a baseball guy with the same name, a few record check things. This is the worst I could find (https://vancouversun.com/news/this-brick-throwing-feces-smearing-offender-has-terrorized-nanaimo-bc-for-years), and that guy has a different last name.

Hiscock, on the other hand, goes straight to porn sites 😭 but once you get past the image results, it's all our guy.

Did y'all know he won a U20 world championship in ball hockey?

No way I'm Googling "Hiscock ball hockey".
Your loss.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: ugarte on January 19, 2026, 11:48:42 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 19, 2026, 09:42:45 AMDid y'all know he won a U20 world championship in ball hockey?
Nice try. I'm not going to search for ball hockey.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26
Post by: stereax on January 20, 2026, 12:16:06 AM
Quote from: ugarte on January 19, 2026, 11:48:42 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 19, 2026, 09:42:45 AMDid y'all know he won a U20 world championship in ball hockey?
Nice try. I'm not going to search for ball hockey.
Your loss!