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Title: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 08:56:05 AM
Cornell has lost 4 straight games to Columbia. My keys to the game:  Cornell run defense was exposed last game against Dartmouth, allowing DJ Crowther to rush for 197 yards.  Columbia is led by an excellent freshman rb in Michael Walters who broke Columbia's freshman rushing record last week with 123 yards.  Can they shut Walters down will be a defensive key.  Offensively, Cornell only netted 41 rushing yards against Dartmouth.  Cornell freshman rb John McAuliffe, didn't play very much in the Penn game, and not all in the Dartmouth game, so I assume was injured.  Can Jordan Triplet carry the Cornell rushing load himself is a big key. 
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: mike1960 on November 22, 2025, 01:03:00 PM
Play good football, end the season .500. 

Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 01:06:13 PM
new kicker or just for kickoffs?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 01:11:12 PM
Yale up 24-7 over Harvard in 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 01:15:27 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 01:06:13 PMnew kicker or just for kickoffs?

William Buck does the kickoffs and punting.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 01:19:34 PM
Another truly stupid play call.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 01:20:17 PM
Dumb play call on the one yard line. Inception by Columbia.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 01:21:26 PM
Going to lose this game with turnovers like that. 
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: scoop85 on November 22, 2025, 01:21:46 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 01:19:34 PMAnother truly stupid play call.

Too clever by half
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 01:22:49 PM
ayfkm. we march down the field to 3d and goal from the 1. Columbia in the worst, widest gaps I've ever seen for goal line defense, we call play action and GBS tries to float a touch pass in the end zone, is short, gets easily picked off. they aren't even pinned to the goal line.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 01:24:06 PM
and we pay for it immediately.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 01:24:55 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on November 22, 2025, 01:21:46 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 01:19:34 PMAnother truly stupid play call.

Too clever by half
Former Seattle Seahawks coach maybe?  Cost them a Super Bowl.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 01:40:19 PM
Columbia is desperate for their 1st Ivy win.  Cornell run defense is awful, pass defense is even worse. DC Jared Backus was a holdover from the Archer staff, wouldn't mind seeing a change for next season.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 01:50:30 PM
14 - 3 Columbia on another long pass play that got Columbia in scoring position.  Cornell lost whatever momentum they had on the drive in the 1st quarter leading to the interception.   Looks like the Columbia winning streak against Cornell goes to 5 games now.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:06:39 PM
Cornell's offense will be better next season, but it won't make much of a difference if the defense isn't vastly improved.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: mike1960 on November 22, 2025, 02:06:54 PM
Nice run. Looked like Ed Marinaro.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:06:39 PMCornell's offense will be better next season, but it won't make much of a difference if the defense isn't vastly improved.
Would be better next year if one or two of the supposed hot-shot freshman QBs had been given some snaps.  A complete offense needs the ability to "drop one in the bucket."
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 02:17:43 PM

please for the love of god recruit a kicker I'll take his sat for him idc
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:06:39 PMCornell's offense will be better next season, but it won't make much of a difference if the defense isn't vastly improved.
Would be better next year if one or two of the supposed hot-shot freshman QBs had been given some snaps.  A complete offense needs the ability to "drop one in the bucket."

I totally agree.  When was a senior last year none of the backup QB saw the field and you see the result in early in the season when trying to settle on a QB starter.  They need to bring in a kicker in this recruiting class.  Missing extra points a killer.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:19:55 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 02:17:43 PMplease for the love of god recruit a kicker I'll take his sat for him idc

Agreed!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: scoop85 on November 22, 2025, 02:21:21 PM
Quote from: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:06:39 PMCornell's offense will be better next season, but it won't make much of a difference if the defense isn't vastly improved.
Would be better next year if one or two of the supposed hot-shot freshman QBs had been given some snaps.  A complete offense needs the ability to "drop one in the bucket."


I totally agree.  When was a senior last year none of the backup QB saw the field and you see the result in early in the season when trying to settle on a QB starter.  They need to bring in a kicker in this recruiting class.  Missing extra points a killer.

While any D1 kicker should make their extra points, our reliable starter has been injured most of the season.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:21:46 PM
Hard to believe Columbia didn't win more games.  Their offense is very good.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 02:34:12 PM
Columbia 1 yard QB run to close the half, go for 2, get it. Columbia up 22-9 at Schoellkopf. yuck
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:35:17 PM
22-9 Columbia. This game is over I'm afraid.  Cornell can't stop Columbia's offense at all. 
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 02:52:19 PM
meanwhile Yale is up 45-28 on Harvard in Q4
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:53:59 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 02:52:19 PMmeanwhile Yale is up 45-28 on Harvard in Q4

It will be interesting if both Yale and Harvard make it to the NCAA playoffs.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: mike1960 on November 22, 2025, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:35:17 PM22-9 Columbia. This game is over I'm afraid.  Cornell can't stop Columbia's offense at all.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: mike1960 on November 22, 2025, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:35:17 PM22-9 Columbia. This game is over I'm afraid.  Cornell can't stop Columbia's offense at all.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Game was over when they were 3 and goal at the 1 passed the ball.  :)
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: mike1960 on November 22, 2025, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 02:35:17 PM22-9 Columbia. This game is over I'm afraid.  Cornell can't stop Columbia's offense at all.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Game was over when they were 3 and goal at the 1 passed the ball.  :)
Right.  3-man D-line gets little pressure on QB. 8-man pass coverage doesn't work, either.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 22, 2025, 03:29:04 PM
Another shot to foot.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 04:00:21 PM
Injuries just killed this season. Best receiver out for the season, best place kicker out for the season, numerous injuries to the running backs. Have to bring in more quality depth. Defense was undersized and it showed.  I hope Coach Swanstrom can also take a hard look at the play calling by his offensive and defensive coordinators.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: wolcoma on November 22, 2025, 09:37:33 PM
Another tough loss today and while I was not an Archer fan, Swanstrom has not exactly been an upgrade.   While Harvard vs. Yale were playing in a packed stadium in New Haven, this game may have drawn 1,000 fans at best.   Schoellkopf Field has become a dump.   Why would an 18-year old recruit want to play at Cornell, when they can play for Harvard or Yale?    The offensive line can't block and the defense gave up one big play after another.    I will never understand why Cornell can't hire a good football coach.   In addition, despite the very small crowd at the game, the concession line was ridiculous and can someone at least clean the stadium bathrooms?  All I wanted was a 50/50 coffee and hot chocolate, to keep warm and concessions ran out of hot chocolate.  Pathetic, but no one cares at Cornell. 
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 10:22:22 PM
I think you missed a good five game stretch. the kids play better than the upperclassmen (Kurtz and Smith aside) and i think despite eating it today the program is on the upswing.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Ken711 on November 22, 2025, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 10:22:22 PMI think you missed a good five game stretch. the kids play better than the upperclassmen (Kurtz and Smith aside) and i think despite eating it today the program is on the upswing.

Many don't realize the bottom the Cornell football program fell under Archer. Swanstrom is bringing in recruits Archer never could recruit.  The key to playing on a level with the Yale, Harvard and Dartmouth programs, is the number of of those highly recruits they can bring in. Cornell started DL players this season quite undersized compared to the rest of the league. They have more DL size coming in this years class if they stay committed. It doesn't mean I don't agree with some of the play calling (the pass play on 3 and goal from the 1 is an example) and I've been critical of the DC Jared Buckus's defensive system since Archer brought him in. The Ivy League parity has vastly improved, look at the Brown and Dartmouth game as an example. I just hope the injury bug that plagued this team doesn't return next season.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 11:35:22 PM
I don't know if it's the scheme or the talent but the secondary was ridiculously bad. I thought the run defense was... frustrating. A lot of stops at the line but way too many jailbreak runs. That also feels like a secondary scheme issue tbh.

GBS was decent enough for a middling team but definitely not good enough to lead a better team. He throws too flat a ball to clear coverage and it has led to a lot of picks when he had open receivers.

The OL was decent in pass protection and I thought the running game improved a lot when Triplett took over for Pope. We have a lot of guys who seem capable of getting open and catching the ball. Especially Kurtz, who I could see getting invited to the combine next year.

There's a lot of speculation about the young backup QBs but tbh Swanstrom wasn't shy about starting the kids. QB might be different but it's as possible that they didn't live up to the reputation in practice as that they needed the year to adjust to the level. I'd be surprised if GBS has any kind of lock on the position next year but they also weren't going to bench him this year after a four game win streak.

See you next year. LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: rss77 on November 23, 2025, 08:17:35 PM
Coach Swanstrom freely admitted during the season that the level of talent on the team needed to be upgraded. I think he has gotten a huge "buy in" from his team.  I cannot recall a time when there were 30 seniors on a Cornell squad. Per the Columbia I have to admit I was a  bit disheartened.  Admittedly Cornell's defense got pushed around but lack of execution, turnovers, and untimely penalties also hurt the cause.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: BearLover on November 23, 2025, 08:56:11 PM
Quote from: wolcoma on November 22, 2025, 09:37:33 PMAnother tough loss today and while I was not an Archer fan, Swanstrom has not exactly been an upgrade.   While Harvard vs. Yale were playing in a packed stadium in New Haven, this game may have drawn 1,000 fans at best.   Schoellkopf Field has become a dump.   Why would an 18-year old recruit want to play at Cornell, when they can play for Harvard or Yale?    The offensive line can't block and the defense gave up one big play after another.    I will never understand why Cornell can't hire a good football coach.   In addition, despite the very small crowd at the game, the concession line was ridiculous and can someone at least clean the stadium bathrooms?  All I wanted was a 50/50 coffee and hot chocolate, to keep warm and concessions ran out of hot chocolate.  Pathetic, but no one cares at Cornell. 
No comment on Schoellkopf conditions but  why even bring that up in the middle of complaining about the coach? Not really sure what you expected, in Swanstrom's first two seasons he has matched Archer's best seasons (3-4 in Ivy League), doing so mostly with Archer's recruits and this year without the star quarterback responsible for most of the past few seasons' success (however little of it there was). It's way too early to call Swanstrom "not exactly an upgrade" or "[not a] good football coach." I mean, the fact you're talking about how bad the stadium conditions are and how hard it is to recruit at Cornell undermine everything else you say about the coach being bad. Seems evident to me that Swanstrom has Cornell trending upward, and if he doesn't win it's going to be due to Cornell's structural disadvantages rather than Swanstrom being a bad coach. If you want real functioning toilets at Schoellkopf then I suggest endowing a bathroom rather than complaining about random stuff on an internet forum.
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: wolcoma on November 23, 2025, 10:09:36 PM
My apologies as I was very frustrated after the game yesterday.   I am just not thrilled with Coach Swanstrom's schemes and play calling.   He's known as a offensive guy, but that's not what we are seeing on the field. 

In terms of Schoellkopf Field, I can assure you we have given significant dollars to that facility.   Yesterday when I was in the men's room, a father was helping his little boy use the bathroom and the door kept swinging open as the lock has been broken all season.   Meanwhile, concessions line was ridiculous and they were running out of stuff by the time it was my turn.  During the game,  I was on my phone checking out the Yale vs. Harvard game, and it's like two different worlds inside the Ivy League.   What drives me nuts at Cornell is our ongoing lack of detail and no one seems to care.   If the AD and Admin doesn't care, then why are we donating money to this university?   
Title: Re: Cornell vs Columbia: Football season finale
Post by: Chris '03 on November 25, 2025, 07:02:40 AM
Quote from: BearLover on November 23, 2025, 08:56:11 PM
Quote from: wolcoma on November 22, 2025, 09:37:33 PMAnother tough loss today and while I was not an Archer fan, Swanstrom has not exactly been an upgrade.   While Harvard vs. Yale were playing in a packed stadium in New Haven, this game may have drawn 1,000 fans at best.   Schoellkopf Field has become a dump.   Why would an 18-year old recruit want to play at Cornell, when they can play for Harvard or Yale?    The offensive line can't block and the defense gave up one big play after another.    I will never understand why Cornell can't hire a good football coach.   In addition, despite the very small crowd at the game, the concession line was ridiculous and can someone at least clean the stadium bathrooms?  All I wanted was a 50/50 coffee and hot chocolate, to keep warm and concessions ran out of hot chocolate.  Pathetic, but no one cares at Cornell. 
No comment on Schoellkopf conditions but  why even bring that up in the middle of complaining about the coach? Not really sure what you expected, in Swanstrom's first two seasons he has matched Archer's best seasons (3-4 in Ivy League), doing so mostly with Archer's recruits and this year without the star quarterback responsible for most of the past few seasons' success (however little of it there was). It's way too early to call Swanstrom "not exactly an upgrade" or "[not a] good football coach." I mean, the fact you're talking about how bad the stadium conditions are and how hard it is to recruit at Cornell undermine everything else you say about the coach being bad. Seems evident to me that Swanstrom has Cornell trending upward, and if he doesn't win it's going to be due to Cornell's structural disadvantages rather than Swanstrom being a bad coach. If you want real functioning toilets at Schoellkopf then I suggest endowing a bathroom rather than complaining about random stuff on an internet forum.
Quote from: ugarte on November 22, 2025, 10:22:22 PMI think you missed a good five game stretch. the kids play better than the upperclassmen (Kurtz and Smith aside) and i think despite eating it today the program is on the upswing.

Let's hope Swanstrom likes Ithaca more than Philly. Priore is retiring at Penn.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/11/24/penn-football-coach-ray-priore-step-down/87451606007/#