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Title: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 16, 2025, 10:53:14 AM
I hadn't realized how heavily Union uses the transfer portal. Their top 3 scorers and goalie are transfers. Notable, though, none of them were effective at their original schools (Clarkson, Maine, CC, UMich), and only started producing/seeing the ice once they came to Union.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 17, 2025, 03:09:40 PM
By record (8-2-1) they seem tough.  But we are home and healthy.  This is the type of game that separates pretty good from (no qualifier) good, which is also the line that gets you a bye.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: RichH on November 17, 2025, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 17, 2025, 03:09:40 PMBy record (8-2-1) they seem tough.  But we are home and healthy.  This is the type of game that separates pretty good from (no qualifier) good, which is also the line that gets you a bye.

But do they know how to skate through SLUSH???

Home slush advantage
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 18, 2025, 04:18:27 AM
Quote from: RichH on November 17, 2025, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 17, 2025, 03:09:40 PMBy record (8-2-1) they seem tough.  But we are home and healthy.  This is the type of game that separates pretty good from (no qualifier) good, which is also the line that gets you a bye.

But do they know how to skate through SLUSH???

Home slush advantage

And if we die
Before the battle's through
Tell your mom, tell your dad
That we were super rad!
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 19, 2025, 04:57:19 AM
Cornell 19 and Union 20 in the USCHO poll.

Cornell 4 and Union 34 in NPI.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: upprdeck on November 19, 2025, 09:27:36 AM
I wonder how many people can watch a game at the Rink if thats the backup plan? Or is it Cass park?
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 19, 2025, 10:05:36 AM
Is the ice still fucked?  ???
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 19, 2025, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 19, 2025, 10:05:36 AMIs the ice still fucked?  ???
No clue. I'm scurrying off to Bartels during lunch to pick up the season ticket freebies, if I hear/see anything I'll let y'all know.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: The Rancor on November 19, 2025, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 19, 2025, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 19, 2025, 10:05:36 AMIs the ice still fucked?  ???
No clue. I'm scurrying off to Bartels during lunch to pick up the season ticket freebies, if I hear/see anything I'll let y'all know.

What is in the season ticket swag bag?
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: marty on November 19, 2025, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on November 19, 2025, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 19, 2025, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 19, 2025, 10:05:36 AMIs the ice still fucked?  ???
No clue. I'm scurrying off to Bartels during lunch to pick up the season ticket freebies, if I hear/see anything I'll let y'all know.

What is in the season ticket swag bag?

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Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 01:57:02 PM
Just confirmed the Ice is still shit. Dark spots all over and the creases are hardly blue anymore. But hopefully the damage was already done and they made the ice thicker so there's no more delays. As long as we can get through the next weekend we can make any major changes over break.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 01:57:02 PMJust confirmed the Ice is still shit. Dark spots all over and the creases are hardly blue anymore. But hopefully the damage was already done and they made the ice thicker so there's no more delays. As long as we can get through the next weekend we can make any major changes over break.
It is getting actively worked on though so that's a good sign
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 19, 2025, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 01:57:02 PMJust confirmed the Ice is still shit. Dark spots all over and the creases are hardly blue anymore. But hopefully the damage was already done and they made the ice thicker so there's no more delays. As long as we can get through the next weekend we can make any major changes over break.
It is getting actively worked on though so that's a good sign
Will it interrupt the teams being able to practice?
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: fastforward on November 19, 2025, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 19, 2025, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 01:57:02 PMJust confirmed the Ice is still shit. Dark spots all over and the creases are hardly blue anymore. But hopefully the damage was already done and they made the ice thicker so there's no more delays. As long as we can get through the next weekend we can make any major changes over break.
It is getting actively worked on though so that's a good sign
Will it interrupt the teams being able to practice?

There's another rink somewhat close that I'm hopeful they can utilize
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: ugarte on November 19, 2025, 03:49:23 PM
Quote from: fastforward on November 19, 2025, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 19, 2025, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 01:57:02 PMJust confirmed the Ice is still shit. Dark spots all over and the creases are hardly blue anymore. But hopefully the damage was already done and they made the ice thicker so there's no more delays. As long as we can get through the next weekend we can make any major changes over break.
It is getting actively worked on though so that's a good sign
Will it interrupt the teams being able to practice?

There's another rink somewhat close that I'm hopeful they can utilize
it is my understanding that they have a shared google calendar
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 19, 2025, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on November 19, 2025, 01:57:02 PMJust confirmed the Ice is still shit. Dark spots all over and the creases are hardly blue anymore. But hopefully the damage was already done and they made the ice thicker so there's no more delays. As long as we can get through the next weekend we can make any major changes over break.

Where the major changes are put it back the way it was?

If we sweep these 4 TBH I have zero fucks to give.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: imafrshmn on November 19, 2025, 05:14:00 PM
There is cosmetics, i.e. the paint layer, and there is the skating surface itself. As long as the weather stays seasonable, the skating ice should be fine. Last Saturday had an unseasonable spike in absolute humidity (less so air temperature) that would have hampered the refrigeration efficiency, which coupled with the women's game earlier to cause the issues. There might also be a bit of a learning process involved in honing in on optimal parameters for Lynah since they wouldn't have a ton of experience yet with the precision leveling zamboni system. TLDR, Lynah is still a first rate facility, just needs some TLC.

Back in my day, they kept Lynah's ice on the soft side seemingly to help our bruising style of play. Nowadays, thankfully, both the men's and women's programs want to use speed to our advantage.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 19, 2025, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on November 19, 2025, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 19, 2025, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 19, 2025, 10:05:36 AMIs the ice still fucked?  ???
No clue. I'm scurrying off to Bartels during lunch to pick up the season ticket freebies, if I hear/see anything I'll let y'all know.

What is in the season ticket swag bag?
Got a shirt, a little wallet, and a few coupons... not sure if I'll ever be able to use any of 'em though.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Snowball on November 19, 2025, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 19, 2025, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on November 19, 2025, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 19, 2025, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 19, 2025, 10:05:36 AMIs the ice still fucked?  ???
No clue. I'm scurrying off to Bartels during lunch to pick up the season ticket freebies, if I hear/see anything I'll let y'all know.

What is in the season ticket swag bag?
Got a shirt, a little wallet, and a few coupons... not sure if I'll ever be able to use any of 'em though.


I managed to use one coupon for 25% off popcorn—felt like scoring a shorthanded goal at Lynah.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 20, 2025, 10:33:35 AM
Anybody learn if we were able to practice at Lynah?
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: chimpfood on November 20, 2025, 11:15:21 AM
I'm sure they were, there were no major renovations going on, just extra water on the dark spots pretty much.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 20, 2025, 01:29:25 PM
Casey's letter this week:

QuoteIt was our home-opening weekend of the ECAC season, and Lynah did not disappoint. We had two terrific crowds, and the energy in the building was awesome.

We opened the weekend with a special moment, as we held a pregame ceremony to honor Ken Dryden, capped by a unique puck drop that saw both starting goaltenders meet at center ice for the faceoff. It was a memorable way to begin the night and celebrate one of the true legends of Cornell Hockey.

Brown plays hard and brings a very disruptive forecheck. Even though we were prepared for it, it took us a little time to adjust and find ways to bypass their pressure. Once we settled in and started moving the puck quickly, our depth began to take over and wear them down. Freshman forward Caton Ryan had a breakout night with both a power-play goal and a 5-on-5 goal — a terrific bounce-back effort after Dartmouth and a reminder of the spark youth can bring. Junior defenseman George Fegaras played one of his most complete games of the year, adding two assists and anchoring a penalty kill that went a perfect 4-for-4. Gio DiGiulian continued his hot streak with his fourth goal in as many games, and Ryan Walsh added another as he continues to heat up for us.

On Saturday, we welcomed a Yale team riding momentum after wins over Quinnipiac and Princeton. Lynah was hopping from the opening faceoff, and that energy carried into our play.

We would skate to a 5–2 victory, but not without a long night — more on that in a moment. The first period was tightly contested with limited scoring chances, as Yale does a good job staying above you and defending, two staples of our own identity without the puck. We stayed patient, kept pushing the pace, and were rewarded with an explosive second period.

We struck for four goals in the second, led by Ryan Walsh, who scored both a power-play goal and a 5-on-5 goal as he continues to elevate his game. Reegan Hiscock added his second of the season after a strong offensive sequence from his line. A key moment for me came when senior Nick DeSantis scored. Nick played his best game of the year — an important step for us as we need his presence and production with our young group. And Caton Ryan capped off his outstanding weekend with another goal, his third in two nights.

After the second period, we experienced a one-hour delay due to ice issues. It's been an ongoing challenge, and everything hit at once — an afternoon women's game, warm weather, and a torrential downpour — all contributing to poor ice conditions. We've adjusted our schedule this week, limiting ice to the men's and women's teams and making ice maintenance our top priority. Early signs are encouraging, so we're optimistic we're heading in the right direction.

What stood out most to me during this difficult situation was our crowd. Eighty-five to ninety percent of Lynah stayed in their seats throughout the delay as our band essentially put on a concert. It was an incredible display of support and a reminder of what makes Lynah so special.

A big weekend looms with Union and RPI coming to town. In my opinion, Union comes in with a veteran team and what I believe is one of the top rosters in our league this year, so Friday presents a significant opportunity for our group. RPI, under a new head coach, has already taken league games from Clarkson and Union, so we know we'll need to be sharp both games to take care of home ice.

I want to make you aware that the CHA (Cornell Hockey Association) will be sponsoring its second of four afterglows this season following Saturday night's game. Head to the Hall of Fame Room in Friends Hall for post-game food, talk to fellow members of the Lynah Faithful and meet our players. Free for CHA members, $5 for non-CHA members.

Last but certainly not least, it's also Hall of Fame Weekend! We are proud to see our very own Mike Schafer inducted. All the inductees will be honored at our game on Friday vs. Union. Congratulations, Schafe — well deserved!

Another great weekend of Cornell Hockey is on tap, help us celebrate with another packed Lynah as we finish off this four game homestand.

Let's Go Red!

Casey Jones
The Jay R. Bloom '77 Head Coach of Men's Ice Hockey
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 20, 2025, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 20, 2025, 01:29:25 PMCasey's letter this week:
Was going to send this myself. Yeah, sounds like they're trying to stay off the ice to keep it in as good condition as they can. Would not be surprised if after December 6 (the last home game of the semester, for the women) they rip it up and reset it.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: imafrshmn on November 20, 2025, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 20, 2025, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 20, 2025, 01:29:25 PMCasey's letter this week:
Was going to send this myself. Yeah, sounds like they're trying to stay off the ice to keep it in as good condition as they can. Would not be surprised if after December 6 (the last home game of the semester, for the women) they rip it up and reset it.

I think that's clearly the right call. Just need a window of a few days when the schedule clears up.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 20, 2025, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: imafrshmn on November 20, 2025, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 20, 2025, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 20, 2025, 01:29:25 PMCasey's letter this week:
Was going to send this myself. Yeah, sounds like they're trying to stay off the ice to keep it in as good condition as they can. Would not be surprised if after December 6 (the last home game of the semester, for the women) they rip it up and reset it.

I think that's clearly the right call. Just need a window of a few days when the schedule clears up.
And after Dec 6, they have almost a month until the next home game (Jan 2). Plus, finals for the athletes, so less time to be on the ice anyway, and then the Christmas season. So, all in all, good time to reset the ice.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 20, 2025, 10:50:26 PM
Quote from: imafrshmn on November 20, 2025, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 20, 2025, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 20, 2025, 01:29:25 PMCasey's letter this week:
Was going to send this myself. Yeah, sounds like they're trying to stay off the ice to keep it in as good condition as they can. Would not be surprised if after December 6 (the last home game of the semester, for the women) they rip it up and reset it.

I think that's clearly the right call. Just need a window of a few days when the schedule clears up.

It used to take a coupla weeks, and that was before they starting shanking all the derp into the ice.

Of course, those were also the days we thought the roof beams had rotted through and were near collapse.  Those pretty foil strips up there are not aesthetic.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: VIEWfromK on November 21, 2025, 06:25:19 PM
Major taking warmups
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 06:28:38 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on November 21, 2025, 06:25:19 PMMajor taking warmups
Was about to report the same. Just got here.

Remind me NEVER to get off at Humphreys again.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 06:40:14 PM
Btw, the "derp" under the ice is super foggy. I think they just put a bunch of water over top and called it a day for now.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: marty on November 21, 2025, 06:40:27 PM
Ice looks thick enough over the ECAC Decals.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 06:55:46 PM
Scoring Leaders:

3-3-6 Ryan
4-1-5 DiGiulian
3-2-5 Walsh
0-4-4 Fegaras
2-1-3 Castagna
1-2-3 Major
0-3-3 Fisher

Goaltending:

4-1-0 1.42 .953 Cournoyer
0-1-0 2.05 .875 Keopple

PP: 20.0 27th / 63
PK: 83.3 22nd / 63


LET'S GO RED!
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:06:19 PM
Kraft... Casty... WHO???
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:15:03 PM
Holy fuckballs, Cournoyer.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:17:24 PM
1-0, them. Cournoyer screened.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:18:23 PM
As Augustine said, stay outta the box.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:21:01 PM
I love you Alexis but stoppy with the floppy.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: ugarte on November 21, 2025, 07:22:02 PM
before that goal we interfered with the puck on the powerplay 12 times and cleared the zone once. a lot of tough bounces for us and cournoyer probably had no chance on that puck as a defenseman was desperately trying to hook the guy before he stepped up and fired one through a screen.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 07:23:22 PM
Never seen this many empty seats in G/H in a regular season game while school is in session
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:24:58 PM
Good chance: draw penalty.  Well done.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:25:08 PM
X GONNA GIVE IT TO YA
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: ugarte on November 21, 2025, 07:25:37 PM
Veilleux 5 hole right off the faceoff.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: ugarte on November 21, 2025, 07:27:25 PM
Man, looking at the back of the jersey and I want to use X_x as the shorthand. He got the exact same shot and put it into Korpy's chest but it looked good.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:32:08 PM
For those at the game, stuff TV has told us:

1. Union #2 in the country on the penalty kill.

2. Casey said the aim for the pp is "Get the first shot off within 10 seconds."  We did.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:35:47 PM
I keep expecting to hear Devo.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 07:38:23 PM
Wtf is going on in F/G/H/I? They're like 20% full
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:39:49 PM
What's going on here?  Casey re: the ice.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 07:39:55 PM
CJ sent Walsh to go talk to both the Zamboni driver and the A.D. right after the period ended  ???
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:39:49 PMWhat's going on here?  Casey re: the ice.

I'm thinking they had to tell the driver to hold off until after this ceremony.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:41:03 PM
Maybe re: the ceremony for Mike.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 07:42:13 PM
Yup: Walsh is now posing for some photos with Schafer and grandkid!
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:44:00 PM
I love how goofy our greatest stars look.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:44:44 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 07:39:55 PMCJ sent Walsh to go talk to both the Zamboni driver and the A.D. right after the period ended  ???
Kinda hysterical to me. I thought they'd go from the tunnel for the inductees. Whole squad was loitering in the tunnel for a bit.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 07:38:23 PMWtf is going on in F/G/H/I? They're like 20% full
Decent amount of people are already traveling for Thanksgiving. Also, people get tickets there and migrate to other sections.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 07:46:34 PM
I've held Diane's baby.  Now she is holding her baby's baby.  Sunrise, sunset.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 07:38:23 PMWtf is going on in F/G/H/I? They're like 20% full
Decent amount of people are already traveling for Thanksgiving. Also, people get tickets there and migrate to other sections.
I would have expected it to be mostly townies who stick around there. Last weekend the sections looked pretty full.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Dafatone on November 21, 2025, 07:54:05 PM
I'm watching on my phone since I don't have internet where I'm at, just data. So posting while watching is tough.

Anyone else think the penalty call on us was terrible? Long got knocked over, a guy gave him a second shove, and he got tangled up with that guy while getting up.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:54:59 PM
Quote from: Dafatone on November 21, 2025, 07:54:05 PMI'm watching on my phone since I don't have internet where I'm at, just data. So posting while watching is tough.

Anyone else think the penalty call on us was terrible? Long got knocked over, a guy gave him a second shove, and he got tangled up with that guy while getting up.
Everyone thought that call was dogshit. Entire rink booed it.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:00:28 PM
I will say I saw about 11 things for both sides on that play.  That was Ref Panic.  "If I don't stop this now it's going to be a bloodbath."

IMO should have called matching to get the same message across.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 07:38:23 PMWtf is going on in F/G/H/I? They're like 20% full
Decent amount of people are already traveling for Thanksgiving. Also, people get tickets there and migrate to other sections.
I would have expected it to be mostly townies who stick around there. Last weekend the sections looked pretty full.
Anne's at the game and says A in front of the band is completely empty too.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:08:47 PM
Great shift: more of that please!
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:11:15 PM
Very good since the 10-minute mark of the first period.  Love our passing and intensity.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:14:15 PM
We are harrying them.  Just a little bit of Yale's "60 minutes of hell" from their title run.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:16:07 PM
Q 3 Clarkson 0.

I hate those guys.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 08:16:50 PM
Dominating territorially but complete lack of vision/finish on the odd-man rushes and partial breakaways.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:17:05 PM
Cowbell person is adding an "interesting" coda of extra beats. :-\
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:24:06 PM
Walsh sells a pretty obvious Union hook, but Carusone decides to just call him for embellishment and not the hook  >:(
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:24:06 PMWalsh sells a pretty obvious Union hook, but Carusone decides to just call him for embellishment and not the hook  >:(
Dogshit reffing.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 08:26:40 PM
CHARLIE MAJORRRR
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:27:37 PM
Major with a beautiful solo effort! Smashed the U player against the boards, stripped the puck, and ripped it past the goalie! 2-1.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: pjd8 on November 21, 2025, 08:28:03 PM
He checks, he shoots, he scores!

Love that hustle!
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:34:13 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:24:06 PMWalsh sells a pretty obvious Union hook, but Carusone decides to just call him for embellishment and not the hook  >:(
Tough to call a dive with this ice.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: marty on November 21, 2025, 08:37:00 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:54:59 PM
Quote from: Dafatone on November 21, 2025, 07:54:05 PMI'm watching on my phone since I don't have internet where I'm at, just data. So posting while watching is tough.

Anyone else think the penalty call on us was terrible? Long got knocked over, a guy gave him a second shove, and he got tangled up with that guy while getting up.
Everyone thought that call was dogshit. Entire rink booed it.

I booed but I thought it was a diving call as soon as I saw the ref  call it because he wasn't touched aa he fell.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:17:05 PMCowbell person is adding an "interesting" coda of extra beats. :-\
Fun fact for the others: We habitually did it wrong for about a decade, before Age talked to the originators (you?) and had the skill to add the middle half-note beat back. 

Cowbellin' aint easy.

I have no idea what they are doing now.  I can't hear it on the 'cast.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: marty on November 21, 2025, 08:37:00 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 21, 2025, 07:54:59 PM
Quote from: Dafatone on November 21, 2025, 07:54:05 PMI'm watching on my phone since I don't have internet where I'm at, just data. So posting while watching is tough.

Anyone else think the penalty call on us was terrible? Long got knocked over, a guy gave him a second shove, and he got tangled up with that guy while getting up.
Everyone thought that call was dogshit. Entire rink booed it.

I booed but I thought it was a diving call as soon as I saw the ref  call it because he wasn't touched aa he fell.

I saw a U stick pretty firmly attached to Ryan's arm/mid section.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:56:42 PM
Ping
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:59:46 PM
I would like insurance please.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:01:21 PM
UC playing 4 men up now.  No D fucks to give.  Make them pay.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:04:40 PM
DeSantis back with Castagna and Kraft. Not sure if that also means the "boy meat" line has also been reunited.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:08:12 PM
We're doing much better job keeping up the pressure with a one goal lead late in the game, and not just turtling.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:10:32 PM
I think that poor UC dude just broke his ankle.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 21, 2025, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:04:40 PMDeSantis back with Castagna and Kraft. Not sure if that also means the "boy meat" line has also been reunited.

The "Boy meat" line?  Huh?
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:12:00 PM
Fan Favorite Charlie Major
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 21, 2025, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:04:40 PMDeSantis back with Castagna and Kraft. Not sure if that also means the "boy meat" line has also been reunited.

The "Boy meat" line?  Huh?
Be glad you missed that.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 09:12:37 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:10:32 PMI think that poor UC dude just broke his ankle.
Looked like his rib. Poor kid.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 09:12:52 PM
Also, Wallace performing grocery stick duties.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:12:57 PM
Healthy DeSantis is fun.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:16:01 PM
I assume Lindhauer gets a block not a save.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:10:32 PMI think that poor UC dude just broke his ankle.
He came back.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:17:41 PM
Take it and like it.  3 points.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sen '08 on November 21, 2025, 09:17:56 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 21, 2025, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:04:40 PMDeSantis back with Castagna and Kraft. Not sure if that also means the "boy meat" line has also been reunited.

The "Boy meat" line?  Huh?
Be glad you missed that.

Here. (https://elf.elynah.com/index.php?msg=274137)
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Larry72 on November 21, 2025, 09:18:53 PM
Really solid third period. LGR!
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 09:20:05 PM
3 steps through the gauntlet.  One more tomorrow.  Get the sweep.  These points are going to be gold in February.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 21, 2025, 09:22:01 PM
Quote from: sen '08 on November 21, 2025, 09:17:56 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 21, 2025, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 09:04:40 PMDeSantis back with Castagna and Kraft. Not sure if that also means the "boy meat" line has also been reunited.

The "Boy meat" line?  Huh?
Be glad you missed that.

Here. (https://elf.elynah.com/index.php?msg=274143)

Ah.  I thought it had to do with Hiscock and Long.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 09:25:21 PM
Nice. Good shit. 3 points. Hell yeah. Do it again tomorrow. And for the love of God do not THINK about putting Wallace out there with Kraft and Castagna again. Not his role.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: ugarte on November 21, 2025, 09:31:21 PM
Major's goal was so goddamn cool.

Veilleux has that slapshot that made me think of Malinksi and Barron.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 09:31:35 PM
Good win overall. Particularly in goal and defending when Union had the puck. But Cornell did not play well when it had the puck. So many failed clears, bad turnovers, failing to even get a shot off on partial breakaways and odd-man rushes.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: marty on November 21, 2025, 09:50:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 09:31:35 PMGood win overall. Particularly in goal and defending when Union had the puck. But Cornell did not play well when it had the puck. So many failed clears, bad turnovers, failing to even get a shot off on partial breakaways and odd-man rushes.

Butt Boy strikes again.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: marty on November 21, 2025, 09:50:48 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 09:31:35 PMGood win overall. Particularly in goal and defending when Union had the puck. But Cornell did not play well when it had the puck. So many failed clears, bad turnovers, failing to even get a shot off on partial breakaways and odd-man rushes.

Butt Boy strikes again.
Honest question: have you contributed anything of substance to this forum in the past 5 years?
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: marty on November 21, 2025, 10:01:23 PM
https://youtu.be/bOhBbMZ-Oig?si=fufr_2RnULZdP9_Q (https://youtu.be/bOhBbMZ-Oig?si=fufr_2RnULZdP9_Q)
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: marty on November 21, 2025, 10:01:23 PMhttps://youtu.be/bOhBbMZ-Oig?si=fufr_2RnULZdP9_Q (https://youtu.be/bOhBbMZ-Oig?si=fufr_2RnULZdP9_Q)
Nice video. But that is YouTube, not ELynah. Marty, I know you have it in you. You are capable of contributing to a college hockey forum. It doesn't have to be the case that 75% of your posts are one-sentence direct replies to me. You're better than that.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 10:10:29 PM
Holy shit I barely get home and we're already arguing.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: imafrshmn on November 21, 2025, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: marty on November 21, 2025, 10:01:23 PMhttps://youtu.be/bOhBbMZ-Oig?si=fufr_2RnULZdP9_Q (https://youtu.be/bOhBbMZ-Oig?si=fufr_2RnULZdP9_Q)
Nice video. But that is YouTube, not ELynah. Marty, I know you have it in you. You are capable of contributing to a college hockey forum. It doesn't have to be the case that 75% of your posts are one-sentence direct replies to me. You're better than that.

Can we get a dislike/downvote/fart button please?
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:14:21 PM
Let's see how tomorrow (trap game) goes, but thus far I'm impressed. The defensive gapping and structure doesn't appear to have changed from Schafer's. Counoyer looks great. The freshmen look good on the whole. The PP is better.

The major gripes are that offensively there's little to write home about and we don't take care of the puck.

Overall, based on a minuscule sample, I'm optimistic about the Casey era. I also find it funny that Clarkson is now struggling.

My biggest complaint this year is the fan support. The schedule didn't break our way (4 games over pure intercession and 2 more the weekend before classes start), plus the ice debacle maybe scaring some people away, but come on, the attendance and energy is seriously lacking. Is anybody trying to fix this? Lower ticket prices or something!
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:14:43 PM
Quote from: imafrshmn on November 21, 2025, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: marty on November 21, 2025, 10:01:23 PMhttps://youtu.be/bOhBbMZ-Oig?si=fufr_2RnULZdP9_Q (https://youtu.be/bOhBbMZ-Oig?si=fufr_2RnULZdP9_Q)
Nice video. But that is YouTube, not ELynah. Marty, I know you have it in you. You are capable of contributing to a college hockey forum. It doesn't have to be the case that 75% of your posts are one-sentence direct replies to me. You're better than that.

Can we get a dislike/downvote/fart button please?
Yes, make me moderator and I will implement
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 10:15:55 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 21, 2025, 10:10:29 PMHoly shit I barely get home and we're already arguing.
It's different in your family?  ;)
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 09:31:35 PMGood win overall. Particularly in goal and defending when Union had the puck. But Cornell did not play well when it had the puck. So many failed clears, bad turnovers, failing to even get a shot off on partial breakaways and odd-man rushes.
"Any landing you can walk away from is successful."

3 points (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2026/box20251121.pdf).  The rest is silence.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 10:20:09 PM
Quote from: ugarte on November 21, 2025, 09:31:21 PMMajor's goal was so goddamn cool.

Veilleux has that slapshot that made me think of Malinksi and Barron.
We go for the net. 

We shoot at the opponent's net. 

We are aware, in principle, of the general direction of the opponent's net.  Where goals go.

What a difference in this generation.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 10:15:55 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 21, 2025, 10:10:29 PMHoly shit I barely get home and we're already arguing.
It's different in your family?  ;)
My family starts arguing in the car, Trots <3
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:44:35 PM
Listed attendance 3,230????

I would wager that is the single lowest number for a regular season game while school is in session in the past 25 years. Not counting COVID era restrictions.

Gross
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: marty on November 21, 2025, 10:47:04 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:14:21 PMI also find it funny that Clarkson is now struggling.

I think Clarkson has the third worst NPI in the ECAC.  WTF?

Also the NPI tab just disappeared from the Android version of CHN? :o

Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 10:56:53 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:44:35 PMListed attendance 3,230????

I would wager that is the single lowest number for a regular season game while school is in session in the past 25 years. Not counting COVID era restrictions.

Gross
Sounds like you need to buy 1000 tickets and distribute them to people on campus.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 21, 2025, 11:07:53 PM
Jane's article is out: (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/11/no-19-men-s-hockey-uses-strong-defense-to-upend-no-20-union-2-1)

Heading into Friday night, No. 20 Union boasted the third-best offense in the nation, averaging four goals per game.

It would skate off the ice at Lynah Rink with just a '1' on the scoreboard. And beyond that, only nine shots on goal through the final 40 minutes.

"We made them defend," said head coach Casey Jones '90. "That's what you want to do to a good offensive team. You don't want them to have the puck. You want to put pucks in behind them."
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 11:39:02 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:44:35 PMListed attendance 3,230????

I would wager that is the single lowest number for a regular season game while school is in session in the past 25 years. Not counting COVID era restrictions.

Gross
I'm thinking you missed 1995.

Edit: Oh Jesus Christ.  1995 was 30 years ago.

Please kill me.

I do seem to recall though that 2014-2016 were low attendance.  That was one of our nadirs as a crowd and we worried about the torch not being passed.  As we did in the early 80s and the mid 90s and after COVID.  It is a Perennial Panic.

I'll bet the Keeeeds are all back in their safe Westchester County homes committing various misdemeanors against nature and will be back strong next January.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: andyw2100 on November 21, 2025, 11:40:04 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:17:05 PMCowbell person is adding an "interesting" coda of extra beats. :-\
Fun fact for the others: We habitually did it wrong for about a decade, before Age talked to the originators (you?) and had the skill to add the middle half-note beat back. 

Cowbellin' aint easy.

I have no idea what they are doing now.  I can't hear it on the 'cast.

That extra beat has been long gone again.

The guy tonight was horrific. I'm not sure what he was doing, but it wasn't close to right. He actually looked mad that no one was participating, but no one could because we had absolutely no idea what he was playing. After his second attempt two different people...one out of the band and one, a little later, from the front of A, went over to try to educate him.

On a different note, any one have any idea why the band played the alma mater between the first and second periods? My best guess is they planned to do it then for the Hall of Fame inductees, but they were long gone by the time the band started the alma mater, so if that had been the plan they should have scrapped it.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 11:50:20 PM
It used to be multiple people brought cowbells early on and auditioned and were either ignored, booed, or applauded, and that's how it was passed on.  Age had some challengers who almost all sucked.  If this guy sucks boo him into oblivion and make him STFU.

They have already ruined the telephone cheer.  Don't let them destroy this too.

If you know undergrads who know this boob, tell him it's not an entitlement and he sucks.  I don't care which frat told him they own it.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 11:54:28 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on November 21, 2025, 11:40:04 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:17:05 PMCowbell person is adding an "interesting" coda of extra beats. :-\
Fun fact for the others: We habitually did it wrong for about a decade, before Age talked to the originators (you?) and had the skill to add the middle half-note beat back. 

Cowbellin' aint easy.

I have no idea what they are doing now.  I can't hear it on the 'cast.

That extra beat has been long gone again.

Does not surprise me.  In 45 years, Age is the only person I have heard who could do it with perfect cadence.  He is our Cowbell Neil Peart.  He must have triple jointed thumbs or something.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 22, 2025, 12:31:37 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 11:39:02 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:44:35 PMListed attendance 3,230????

I would wager that is the single lowest number for a regular season game while school is in session in the past 25 years. Not counting COVID era restrictions.

Gross
I'm thinking you missed 1995.

Edit: Oh Jesus Christ.  1995 was 30 years ago.

Please kill me.

I do seem to recall though that 2014-2016 were low attendance.  That was one of our nadirs as a crowd and we worried about the torch not being passed.  As we did in the early 80s and the mid 90s and after COVID.  It is a Perennial Panic.

I just checked past seasons' box scores on CHN
2014: almost every home game was a sellout, lowest attendance for any game was 3,916
2015: most games sellouts, lowest attendance: 4,059
2016: about half games sellouts, lowest attendance: 3,848

I feel pretty good that the tonight's 3,230 is the worst attendance we've had for any game in decades while school is in session.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: chimpfood on November 22, 2025, 12:42:19 AM
Good win, Veilleux's one timer is juicy. It's nice to be back to the dominating faceoffs and limiting shots team that we are meant to be. We still haven't given up more than two goals in a game, keep that going and we will go a long way
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 22, 2025, 12:45:59 AM
Quote from: BearLover on November 22, 2025, 12:31:37 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 21, 2025, 11:39:02 PM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:44:35 PMListed attendance 3,230????

I would wager that is the single lowest number for a regular season game while school is in session in the past 25 years. Not counting COVID era restrictions.

Gross
I'm thinking you missed 1995.

Edit: Oh Jesus Christ.  1995 was 30 years ago.

Please kill me.

I do seem to recall though that 2014-2016 were low attendance.  That was one of our nadirs as a crowd and we worried about the torch not being passed.  As we did in the early 80s and the mid 90s and after COVID.  It is a Perennial Panic.

I just checked past seasons' box scores on CHN
2014: almost every home game was a sellout, lowest attendance for any game was 3,916
2015: most games sellouts, lowest attendance: 4,059
2016: about half games sellouts, lowest attendance: 3,848

I feel pretty good that the tonight's 3,230 is the worst attendance we've had for any game in decades while school is in session.
Okay, I looked at some more seasons, and I did find two games with lower attendance: both in 2022-23, one vs Sacred Heart the Tuesday before Thanksgiving (2,722), and one later in the season vs Clarkson (3,102). Other than those, I can't find any games in the past 25 years with lower attendance than tonight's, though there probably are a few cases, as I only checked years where I'd expect attendance to be down such as 2022-23, which came right after the year of COVID restrictions.

I checked the Friday before Thanksgiving games in other seasons and saw nothing close to as bad as tonight's attendance.

Not sure if anybody involved with the hockey team or Cornell athletics is trying to do anything about Lynah atmosphere but this feels like the low point. Notably we made the NCAAs 7 of the last 8 years and won the ECAC the past 2 seasons so it doesn't seem to be tied to on-ice success.

Maybe people will show up tomorrow...? Looking at bigredtix.com, F is GA, and G/H/J are about half unsold. The student sections aren't available but D and E looked mostly empty tonight.

The only easy solution I can offer is to decrease ticket prices.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: chimpfood on November 22, 2025, 12:48:27 AM
Quote from: BearLover on November 21, 2025, 10:14:21 PMLet's see how tomorrow (trap game) goes, but thus far I'm impressed. The defensive gapping and structure doesn't appear to have changed from Schafer's. Counoyer looks great. The freshmen look good on the whole. The PP is better.

The major gripes are that offensively there's little to write home about and we don't take care of the puck.

Overall, based on a minuscule sample, I'm optimistic about the Casey era. I also find it funny that Clarkson is now struggling.

My biggest complaint this year is the fan support. The schedule didn't break our way (4 games over pure intercession and 2 more the weekend before classes start), plus the ice debacle maybe scaring some people away, but come on, the attendance and energy is seriously lacking. Is anybody trying to fix this? Lower ticket prices or something!
Man I agree with you on most things but you really need to stop being so incessant about it. I also am a bit annoyed at the attendance tonight, but you don't need to post about it 4 different times, that's where it gets a bit annoying. Of course nobody can stop you but I think we all want this forum to be a more enjoyable place, and I hope you can do us a solid and try to help achieve that.

To be honest I thought today felt in line with the Nodak/Duluth crowds we had to start the past couple of years. The reality is that the more clueless fans are the ones who are the difference between a disappointing crowd and a sellout, and they know names like Brown and Yale, not Union and Minnesota Duluth. Considering that many students have left for break, I don't think it was a horrible crowd on that end, not sure why the townie side was so empty though. I don't think this is a major problem, I'm pretty sure both of last weekends games sold out and we know we shouldn't have a problem drawing for Dartmouth, Harvard and Colgate when we return home after break.

This is a happy day with a ranked win!  The crowd isn't my main focus
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 22, 2025, 02:12:46 AM
The first question is was it student attendance down or all attendance?  For students that means either something else conflicted (Early on a Friday night?  Doubtful.  Or perhaps The New Prudery means they're all tucked in by 11 now.) or they split to go home for Thanksgiving a week early (which seems unlikely to me, that's blowing off 4 full days of classes and Saturday labs).

The only thing I have ever seen put a dent in townie attendance was dangerous weather.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:14:39 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 22, 2025, 02:12:46 AMThe first question is was it student attendance down or all attendance?  For students that means either something else conflicted (Early on a Friday night?  Doubtful.  Or perhaps The New Prudery means they're all tucked in by 11 now.) or they split to go home for Thanksgiving a week early (which seems unlikely to me, that's blowing off 4 full days of classes and Saturday labs).

The only thing I have ever seen put a dent in townie attendance was dangerous weather.
As a student, I can confirm at least some people are indeed "blowing off class" early. Saw people with suitcases on the airport buses, plus the Flixbus circuit is buzzing right now.

We get Wed-Thurs-Fri off. So skip 2 days of class and you have over a week of break. Especially if you don't live in NY/NJ/PA, that's a lot. I know people at the law school who've flat out told me that's their plan, haha.

Y'all also have to understand that C can be BARREN at the beginning of the game. People migrate in from other sections, I'm almost positive of it. Like last week, M was full to start the game and C was mostly empty; come third period, noticeable gaps in M and I'm fighting for my own seat to sit down during intermission.

Will also second that the cowbell guy fucking sucks. But also, I thought it was just known that once cowbell guy stops playing the cowbell you yell things. Like how you can't hear the telephone chant, 'cause nobody with a pair of lungs does it anymore, but you still join in on the YOU SUCK part of it.

As for the alma mater, pretty sure it was in honor of the HOF inductees, but they weren't gonna play it during the lady's announcements. So they did it after.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:36:39 AM
O was empty today. L-M-N were mostly full. F-J had large gaps as usual. This all from my photo roll.

It's also a Friday game against Union, which doesn't sound like a fun game unless you know college puck. And if 3000 students knew college puck, we wouldn't be in this situation.

I'll also point out that winning the ECACs and making the dance means next to nothing to the people who showed up to Lynah last year to watch the team habitually forget to play hockey in the regular season. Those March games weren't at Lynah. If you're a "casual" fan whose greatest memory of last year was getting drubbed by Dartmouth, makes sense you'd rather spend your Friday night doing something else. Plus, in the age of ESPN+, I could just as well watch the game from the comfort of my own home. Or any other game, in any other sport.

I dunno. I keep bringing my friends when I can convince them to come - that's all I can do, really.

There are still 76/332 season tickets available in E, btw. And ticket prices for the student sections tomorrow are $17, with prices for the other sections between $23 and $27. I dunno, is this supremely expensive? It's like the price of two drinks at a bar. I think. I don't drink, lol.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:50:36 AM
Also also, if anyone's reading this from Cornell Athletics, it would be really cool to have had the option to four-pack the Omaha/Alaska games that aren't included in the season tickets. That's gonna put me back $68 for four games where nobody's going to show up anyway. Probably $80 if/when I take the flex cancel option, given that I don't know my holiday plans besides vague concepts of Poland to see family for Christmas.

You know, let me at least lock down my seat now. Bleh.

$209 for season tickets. Almost $70 for the four games OVER WINTER BREAK that will have crap attendance anyway.

Ugh. And the site is busted. If you back out after selecting a seat, it greys that seat out for everyone else. Including yourself. I'll see if it clears up in an hour or two... Fuck. I need to go back to bed.

Update - seems the seat greys out for some 15 minutes. Tickets purchased. Still annoyed though lol. Dear God, can I have one solid night of sleep.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 22, 2025, 07:52:47 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:14:39 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 22, 2025, 02:12:46 AMThe first question is was it student attendance down or all attendance?  For students that means either something else conflicted (Early on a Friday night?  Doubtful.  Or perhaps The New Prudery means they're all tucked in by 11 now.) or they split to go home for Thanksgiving a week early (which seems unlikely to me, that's blowing off 4 full days of classes and Saturday labs).

The only thing I have ever seen put a dent in townie attendance was dangerous weather.
As a student, I can confirm at least some people are indeed "blowing off class" early. Saw people with suitcases on the airport buses, plus the Flixbus circuit is buzzing right now.


Yup: the Friday before Thanksgiving week is definitely the new unofficial "start" of the break for many students.

When I was an undergrad in the early aughts, it was still risqué to skip out any earlier than the day before actual Thanksgiving. Class was still technically in session until Thurs/Fri, and a few of the hard-ass profs were happy to issue penalties for anyone who missed even Wednesday, let alone earlier.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: TimV on November 22, 2025, 08:03:16 AM
Quote from: ugarte on November 21, 2025, 07:27:25 PMMan, looking at the back of the jersey and I want to use X_x as the shorthand. He got the exact same shot and put it into Korpy's chest but it looked good.

Why didn't they give him #XV..?
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 22, 2025, 08:11:14 AM
Quote from: TimV on November 22, 2025, 08:03:16 AM
Quote from: ugarte on November 21, 2025, 07:27:25 PMMan, looking at the back of the jersey and I want to use X_x as the shorthand. He got the exact same shot and put it into Korpy's chest but it looked good.

Why didn't they give him #XV..?
Tyler Catalano intensifies
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: fastforward on November 22, 2025, 08:25:56 AM
As far as attendance goes-there was  :-a bunch of other athletic events yesterday on campus so that may have been a factor
I missed a great game last night from what I'm hearing-when work pays the bills-growing up sucks  :-\
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: fastforward on November 22, 2025, 08:30:12 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:50:36 AMAlso also, if anyone's reading this from Cornell Athletics, it would be really cool to have had the option to four-pack the Omaha/Alaska games that aren't included in the season tickets. That's gonna put me back $68 for four games where nobody's going to show up anyway. Probably $80 if/when I take the flex cancel option, given that I don't know my holiday plans besides vague concepts of Poland to see family for Christmas.

You know, let me at least lock down my seat now. Bleh.

$209 for season tickets. Almost $70 for the four games OVER WINTER BREAK that will have crap attendance anyway.

Ugh. And the site is busted. If you back out after selecting a seat, it greys that seat out for everyone else. Including yourself. I'll see if it clears up in an hour or two... Fuck. I need to go back to bed.

Update - seems the seat greys out for some 15 minutes. Tickets purchased. Still annoyed though lol. Dear God, can I have one solid night of sleep.
Is it just the student season tickets that doesn't offer those games?
My pops has regular season tickets and those games are included
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: sah67 on November 22, 2025, 09:09:57 AM
Quote from: fastforward on November 22, 2025, 08:30:12 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:50:36 AMAlso also, if anyone's reading this from Cornell Athletics, it would be really cool to have had the option to four-pack the Omaha/Alaska games that aren't included in the season tickets. That's gonna put me back $68 for four games where nobody's going to show up anyway. Probably $80 if/when I take the flex cancel option, given that I don't know my holiday plans besides vague concepts of Poland to see family for Christmas.

You know, let me at least lock down my seat now. Bleh.

$209 for season tickets. Almost $70 for the four games OVER WINTER BREAK that will have crap attendance anyway.

Ugh. And the site is busted. If you back out after selecting a seat, it greys that seat out for everyone else. Including yourself. I'll see if it clears up in an hour or two... Fuck. I need to go back to bed.

Update - seems the seat greys out for some 15 minutes. Tickets purchased. Still annoyed though lol. Dear God, can I have one solid night of sleep.
Is it just the student season tickets that doesn't offer those games?
My pops has regular season tickets and those games are included

Correct: townie season tickets include all the winter break games.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Beeeej on November 22, 2025, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 21, 2025, 11:07:53 PMJane's article is out: (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/11/no-19-men-s-hockey-uses-strong-defense-to-upend-no-20-union-2-1)


Tiny nit with an otherwise typically stellar Jane report:


You "pair" one thing with one other thing. There isn't really a corresponding verb specifically for three things, so I get it, but there are plenty of verbs for combining three or more.

I shall now return to shooing kids off my nonexistent lawn and rejoicing in Cornell's performance thus far.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: VIEWfromK on November 22, 2025, 10:11:30 AM
That was a really well fought game between two pretty even teams.  The process remains the same for Cornell.  Get a feel for the opponent in the first, devise an adjustment to the game plan in the intermission and then get to work.  That first period was probably Cournoyer's roughest one of the season and Union still only put one past him.  Plus it was a power play goal through traffic.  He looked a bit tentative playing the puck and there were a few saves where the rebound squirted away from him.  I got dizzy with all of those odd man rushes that Union had in that first.  If Union had been able to connect on a pass on one of those plays it could have been a different game.  I really liked the aggressive penalty kill of Castagna and Kraft.  They were all over the Union D at the blue line and it wasn't until they went off and the second pk unit came on that Union had room to operate and cash in.  The Cornell players did a terrific job all night of keeping plays alive in all three zones with their active sticks.  This game ended up being dozens of small plays that added up to the win.  Winning the faceoff on a set play that resulted in the Veilleux goal or doing the same exact thing after the late icing where Veilleux got off the shot but it was high. Charlie Major (great to have him back) going in on the forcheck and stripping that guy before sniping that beautiful goal.  Then in the third he did that spin-o-rama where he passed the puck off the boards to himself and kept the play deep in the Union zone.  Even a play in the second by Veilleux where at the end of a shift he fires it in on net from the neutral zone to force a faceoff as opposed to just dumping it in before going off.  Lots of smart decisions by guys throughout the lineup.  Whoever it was that was calling for them to block more shots should have been pleased last night.  There were a bunch of guys going all out.  That was a nice grind them down game over the last forty minutes.  It should really come in handy later in the season to know they can win games like that. 
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: VIEWfromK on November 22, 2025, 10:22:58 AM
Quote from: sah67 on November 21, 2025, 08:24:06 PMWalsh sells a pretty obvious Union hook, but Carusone decides to just call him for embellishment and not the hook  >:(

I did not like that play at all by Walsh.  I'm sure he was getting frustrated because there wasn't a lot of room to operate out there all night but he needs to try and skate all the way through that.  They were not calling much of anything and that's what that game deserved.  You can't make it that easy for the refs.  I'm glad the boys picked up their captain by killing it off.  Then he came out of the box and had his best chance of the night. Hopefully we don't see him do that again
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Anne 85 on November 22, 2025, 10:37:59 AM
I truly believe the ice contributed to Walsh's fall. In the five minutes or so preceding that play, I saw Cornell players in that general vicinity "trip over the blue line" twice. In real time, I thought both players were likely to be penalized.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: marty on November 22, 2025, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: Anne 85 on November 22, 2025, 10:37:59 AMI truly believe the ice contributed to Walsh's fall. In the five minutes or so preceding that play, I saw Cornell players in that general vicinity "trip over the blue line" twice. In real time, I thought both players were likely to be penalized.

It was odd but Tony Eisenhutt thought it was Union's aggressiveness that caused the falling - he was commenting on Jason wondering if it was the ice.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 22, 2025, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: fastforward on November 22, 2025, 08:30:12 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:50:36 AMAlso also, if anyone's reading this from Cornell Athletics, it would be really cool to have had the option to four-pack the Omaha/Alaska games that aren't included in the season tickets. That's gonna put me back $68 for four games where nobody's going to show up anyway. Probably $80 if/when I take the flex cancel option, given that I don't know my holiday plans besides vague concepts of Poland to see family for Christmas.

You know, let me at least lock down my seat now. Bleh.

$209 for season tickets. Almost $70 for the four games OVER WINTER BREAK that will have crap attendance anyway.

Ugh. And the site is busted. If you back out after selecting a seat, it greys that seat out for everyone else. Including yourself. I'll see if it clears up in an hour or two... Fuck. I need to go back to bed.

Update - seems the seat greys out for some 15 minutes. Tickets purchased. Still annoyed though lol. Dear God, can I have one solid night of sleep.
Is it just the student season tickets that doesn't offer those games?
My pops has regular season tickets and those games are included
Yeah, we don't get 'em included 'cause it's understood I guess that most students will be off campus for the holidays. But hey, instead of $219 they were "only" $209 this year. Grumble grumble.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 22, 2025, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 22, 2025, 07:52:47 AM
Quote from: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:14:39 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 22, 2025, 02:12:46 AMThe first question is was it student attendance down or all attendance?  For students that means either something else conflicted (Early on a Friday night?  Doubtful.  Or perhaps The New Prudery means they're all tucked in by 11 now.) or they split to go home for Thanksgiving a week early (which seems unlikely to me, that's blowing off 4 full days of classes and Saturday labs).

The only thing I have ever seen put a dent in townie attendance was dangerous weather.
As a student, I can confirm at least some people are indeed "blowing off class" early. Saw people with suitcases on the airport buses, plus the Flixbus circuit is buzzing right now.


Yup: the Friday before Thanksgiving week is definitely the new unofficial "start" of the break for many students.

When I was an undergrad in the early aughts, it was still risqué to skip out any earlier than the day before actual Thanksgiving. Class was still technically in session until Thurs/Fri, and a few of the hard-ass profs were happy to issue penalties for anyone who missed even Wednesday, let alone earlier.

Same.  There were ENG profs who scheduled Prelims Tues prior to Thanksgiving and did not care to elaborate.

One of my best Cornell memories is taking the red eye bus to Port Authority late Wed night, arriving at about 1am, and walking across the completely empty city to get to the LIRR station in time to pull out on the first morning train on the (then) Huntington line.  In the memorable line from Guys and Dolls, "This is the only time in Manhattan when you can hear your own footsteps."

Even the working girls were chill.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: VIEWfromK on November 22, 2025, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: marty on November 22, 2025, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: Anne 85 on November 22, 2025, 10:37:59 AMI truly believe the ice contributed to Walsh's fall. In the five minutes or so preceding that play, I saw Cornell players in that general vicinity "trip over the blue line" twice. In real time, I thought both players were likely to be penalized.

It was odd but Tony Eisenhutt thought it was Union's aggressiveness that caused the falling - he was commenting on Jason wondering if it was the ice.

It was as blatant of a dive as it can get.  The Union player was draped all over him as he entered the zone and when he saw they weren't going to call it he went down.  They weren't calling much of anything last night.  Stanley tripped a guy on the Long penalty and I actually thought he was gonna go.  That took away a legitimate scoring chance on the delayed penalty.  They mostly put the whistles away.  It was a bad decision by Walsh
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Trotsky on November 22, 2025, 12:45:20 PM
There were a million non-calls last night, both ways. Nobody has anything to complain about in terms of partisanship.  I don't even know that it was "bad" officiating.  It was just VERY loose officiating.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Dafatone on November 22, 2025, 12:56:10 PM
The call on Long that led to Union's goal was the worst one I've seen this year.

But I've been doing a lot of watching on my phone, so I might have missed something.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: andyw2100 on November 22, 2025, 01:15:13 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:14:39 AMWill also second that the cowbell guy fucking sucks. But also, I thought it was just known that once cowbell guy stops playing the cowbell you yell things. Like how you can't hear the telephone chant, 'cause nobody with a pair of lungs does it anymore, but you still join in on the YOU SUCK part of it.


The problem is that the audience participation part of the cowbell cheer is clapping along to the beat and yelling "Fight" twice. It's impossible to do those things when the cowbell sounds like it is being played by an uncoordinated drunk chimpanzee. (An uncoordinated sober chimpanzee would have been a step up from last night.)
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: stereax on November 22, 2025, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on November 22, 2025, 01:15:13 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 22, 2025, 05:14:39 AMWill also second that the cowbell guy fucking sucks. But also, I thought it was just known that once cowbell guy stops playing the cowbell you yell things. Like how you can't hear the telephone chant, 'cause nobody with a pair of lungs does it anymore, but you still join in on the YOU SUCK part of it.


The problem is that the audience participation part of the cowbell cheer is clapping along to the beat and yelling "Fight" twice. It's impossible to do those things when the cowbell sounds like it is being played by an uncoordinated drunk chimpanzee. (An uncoordinated sober chimpanzee would have been a step up from last night.)
The Association of Uncoordinated Drunk Chimpanzees is lodging a formal complaint against you for this libel.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: BearLover on November 22, 2025, 01:28:43 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 22, 2025, 02:12:46 AMThe first question is was it student attendance down or all attendance?  For students that means either something else conflicted (Early on a Friday night?  Doubtful.  Or perhaps The New Prudery means they're all tucked in by 11 now.) or they split to go home for Thanksgiving a week early (which seems unlikely to me, that's blowing off 4 full days of classes and Saturday labs).

The only thing I have ever seen put a dent in townie attendance was dangerous weather.
Both student and townie attendance have been in gradual decline. In absolute numbers townie attendance has declined more than student attendance due to there being more townie seats overall. Last night most of the visibly empty sections were on the townie side.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: Give My Regards on November 22, 2025, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 21, 2025, 11:07:53 PMJane's article is out: (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/11/no-19-men-s-hockey-uses-strong-defense-to-upend-no-20-union-2-1)

"We traveled in packs" -- I like that.  It's not "soul-crushing juggernauts" but it's pretty good.
Title: Re: Union @ Cornell 11/21
Post by: The Rancor on November 22, 2025, 04:03:52 PM
I enjoyed hearing Union being called "The Skating Dutchman" in the first period. Good game, hard fought.