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Title: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 29, 2025, 12:44:56 PM
So I had to do an emergency server upgrade on Friday night to, you know, an OS that wasn't, you know, 11 years old. Moving to a new version of PHP put the last nail in the coffin of Phorum, which hasn't been updated since Cornell played on Beebe Lake.

So it was time. SMF seems like a good, robust, free, and actively developed solution which included a migration script from Phorum... that really, really didn't work without a lot of massaging, but I got there. Everyone's accounts should be converted, along with your existing password. Posts and messages should all be here. Avatars, apparently did not make the trip.

This theme is a placeholder. There are likely a lot of broken things, but as I'm still putting out other fires with the server swap, I'll look into them when everything has settled. No need to tell me about what you find. Yet.

Sorry for the inconvenience. It certainly wasn't planned, but it's definitely the best thing to happen for this forum's future. I can implement some proper spam checks and stuff, for starters.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: upprdeck on September 29, 2025, 01:06:57 PM
wait until people realize it matches the new team colors we are rolling out.

Go Big Silver/grey
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 01:16:38 PM
Holy shit, it's gorgeous Age!  I love it!
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: scoop85 on September 29, 2025, 01:30:12 PM
Thanks for the swift transition. Seems easy enough to get around this new place. Your work to keep and maintain this site is appreciated.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Beeeej on September 29, 2025, 01:36:49 PM
So far it seems pretty good, though in comparison with the old version it's seven feet further away and has less cheese.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 29, 2025, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: upprdeck on September 29, 2025, 01:06:57 PMwait until people realize it matches the new team colors we are rolling out.

Go Big Silver/grey

There are three little color circles at the bottom of the page. You can click the red one if you prefer. I couldn't select that by default. Temporary, at any rate.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:17:51 PM
This is honestly perfect.  Just leave it like this.  Don't put any of your time into aesthetics, this is so clean and easy to read I think any change would probably be towards enshittification.

Thank you again, this is a gift!

(Note: speaking from the perspective of a desktop user; I haven't tried it on iPacifier yet.)
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:22:08 PM
Also I think I speak for... well, just me but maybe others would agree.  If the back catalog of 260k posts is holding down efficiency or costing $$$, I for one, as the author of 8% of them, and probably 40% of the total bitcount of the content of this site, would be fine if you just flushed everything and started us over fresh and clean.  Or everything before say 10/1/24 if that freaks people out.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:27:45 PM
Oh shit not IMs tho, please keep them.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on September 29, 2025, 02:31:22 PM
Just an FYI, my username includes an apostrophe, which is apparently an illegal character.  Fortunately, I just deleted the apostrophe and it let me log in.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Beeeej on September 29, 2025, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on September 29, 2025, 02:31:22 PMJust an FYI, my username includes an apostrophe, which is apparently an illegal character.  Fortunately, I just deleted the apostrophe and it let me log in.

I think we call them "undocumented characters" now.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 29, 2025, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on September 29, 2025, 02:31:22 PMJust an FYI, my username includes an apostrophe, which is apparently an illegal character.  Fortunately, I just deleted the apostrophe and it let me log in.

Oh yeah. Forgot to mention that, thanks. Obviously screen names are separate and can contain special characters.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 29, 2025, 02:47:33 PM
Oh God. The moderation tools are so nice...
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on September 29, 2025, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on September 29, 2025, 02:31:22 PMJust an FYI, my username includes an apostrophe, which is apparently an illegal character.  Fortunately, I just deleted the apostrophe and it let me log in.

I think we call them "undocumented characters" now.

Surely "TERRORIST characters." 

They're not sending their best. They're not sending U. They're sending special characters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems here. They're bringing dipthongs. They're bringing ßs. They're punctuation.  And some, I assume, are good characters."
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:53:00 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 29, 2025, 02:47:33 PMOh God. The moderation tools are so nice...
So.  This century?
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:59:03 PM
Apostrophes are delimited with a control character (/') in old posts.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 29, 2025, 03:02:32 PM
Thanks, should be corrected
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: mike1960 on September 29, 2025, 03:14:39 PM
Great work! I've created a message board before, and I know how much effort you must have put into (are putting into) making this work for us to enjoy. Much appreciated!!!
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: jeff '84 on September 29, 2025, 05:23:50 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on September 29, 2025, 02:31:22 PMJust an FYI, my username includes an apostrophe, which is apparently an illegal character.  Fortunately, I just deleted the apostrophe and it let me log in.

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: jeff '84 on September 29, 2025, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: mike1960 on September 29, 2025, 03:14:39 PMGreat work! I've created a message board before, and I know how much effort you must have put into (are putting into) making this work for us to enjoy. Much appreciated!!!

Ditto (except for the part about having created a message board)! Thanks so much, Age.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: RichH on September 29, 2025, 06:11:18 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:27:45 PMOh shit not IMs tho, please keep them.

PM me for details
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: ugarte on September 29, 2025, 06:34:24 PM
is there a way to attach image files other than hotlinking a url?
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Rosey on September 29, 2025, 09:43:04 PM
29-ish years since I first put together the CHDF, and roughly four houses later...

I appreciate whatever requires the least bespoke maintenance. Thanks for your service, Age.

Back to lurking.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: The Rancor on September 30, 2025, 09:08:36 AM
I had a slight depressive episode when faced with yesterday's outage- Thank you, Age, for getting the new board up so fast and with all the features intact (plus more!)
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: ugarte on September 29, 2025, 06:34:24 PMis there a way to attach image files other than hotlinking a url?

Kind of a quirk of SMF, you can only attach files when doing a full reply (Reply button at the bottom), not a quick reply. I just added a mod that adds an "Add Files" button to the quick reply that effectively takes you to a full reply.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Beeeej on September 30, 2025, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: ugarte on September 29, 2025, 06:34:24 PMis there a way to attach image files other than hotlinking a url?

Kind of a quirk of SMF, you can only attach files when doing a full reply (Reply button at the bottom), not a quick reply. I just added a mod that adds an "Add Files" button to the quick reply that effectively takes you to a full reply.

Is there a way to click on a topic that jumps directly to the first new post since the last time I read the topic rather than just being able to click on the most recent new post? That was a lovely feature of the old eLF that I'm hoping exists here and I just can't find it for some reason.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Swampy on September 30, 2025, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on September 29, 2025, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on September 29, 2025, 02:31:22 PMJust an FYI, my username includes an apostrophe, which is apparently an illegal character.  Fortunately, I just deleted the apostrophe and it let me log in.

I think we call them "undocumented characters" now.

Surely "TERRORIST characters." 

They're not sending their best. They're not sending U. They're sending special characters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems here. They're bringing dipthongs. They're bringing ßs. They're punctuation.  And some, I assume, are good characters."

Only if they're left apostrophies, etc.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 11:36:10 AM
Quote from: Beeeej on September 30, 2025, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: ugarte on September 29, 2025, 06:34:24 PMis there a way to attach image files other than hotlinking a url?

Kind of a quirk of SMF, you can only attach files when doing a full reply (Reply button at the bottom), not a quick reply. I just added a mod that adds an "Add Files" button to the quick reply that effectively takes you to a full reply.

Is there a way to click on a topic that jumps directly to the first new post since the last time I read the topic rather than just being able to click on the most recent new post? That was a lovely feature of the old eLF that I'm hoping exists here and I just can't find it for some reason.

I believe if you click the "NEW" next to the subject it takes you to the first new one?
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: stereax on September 30, 2025, 11:47:05 AM
Whoa... upgrade!!! I personally hate it, but I hate anything new so please don't take my opinion into any actual account <3. It objectively looks nice and I'm looking forward to poking around and learning more about it, I'm just sad because I really liked the old-timey feel of the old forum. Seconding whoever said it before but red should absolutely be set as the default color.

I think this was the radio PFP I was using. I'm usually on mobile, lol.

A lot of the old quoting is broken, sadly - one of my favorite old threads (https://elf.elynah.com/index.php?topic=138552.0), for context. So are a bunch of the funnier emojis :(

Also, uh... there a way to hide email on the profile?

Also also - what's the "hero member", "senior member", etc about?

Also also also - the current "upper limit" on profile age is 2004-03-22 (which, to make y'all feel old, predates me by a couple weeks), but posts on the forum go back at minimum to 2002...

Also also also also - the "like" function is wonderful. I enjoy that thoroughly :)

ALSO ALSO ALSO ALSO ALSO WE FINALLY GOT A DELETE MESSAGE FUNCTION. Helllllllllll yeah.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Weder on September 30, 2025, 12:05:19 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 11:47:05 AMAlso, uh... there a way to hide email on the profile?

I think the email address shows only when you are looking at your own profile. (At least I hope that is the case.)
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: stereax on September 30, 2025, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 12:05:19 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 11:47:05 AMAlso, uh... there a way to hide email on the profile?

I think the email address shows only when you are looking at your own profile. (At least I hope that is the case.)
Hopefully... can you see mine? I can only see your Skype... which doesn't exist anymore.......
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: stereax on September 30, 2025, 12:14:43 PM
Also, old view is still apparently available on here. (https://dev.cornellhockeyassociation.com/index.php)
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Beeeej on September 30, 2025, 12:19:38 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 11:36:10 AM
Quote from: Beeeej on September 30, 2025, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: ugarte on September 29, 2025, 06:34:24 PMis there a way to attach image files other than hotlinking a url?

Kind of a quirk of SMF, you can only attach files when doing a full reply (Reply button at the bottom), not a quick reply. I just added a mod that adds an "Add Files" button to the quick reply that effectively takes you to a full reply.

Is there a way to click on a topic that jumps directly to the first new post since the last time I read the topic rather than just being able to click on the most recent new post? That was a lovely feature of the old eLF that I'm hoping exists here and I just can't find it for some reason.

I believe if you click the "NEW" next to the subject it takes you to the first new one?

Looks right. Thanks!
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Swampy on September 30, 2025, 12:50:14 PM
I like the new L&F, although I switched to the reddish color.

Any idea why if:
"NEW" persists next to "Alumni in the Pros"?   
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: stereax on September 30, 2025, 01:29:30 PM
Yet another thought - could we put the old ELynah logo at the top, where it says ELynah Forum?
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: LGR14 on September 30, 2025, 02:13:12 PM
One feature that would be helpful is for the topic to show by whom and when the last post was made, rather than merely who started the thread.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Weder on September 30, 2025, 02:22:58 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 12:05:19 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 11:47:05 AMAlso, uh... there a way to hide email on the profile?

I think the email address shows only when you are looking at your own profile. (At least I hope that is the case.)
Hopefully... can you see mine? I can only see your Skype... which doesn't exist anymore.......

The only thing I see for other profiles a way to PM them. I don't even see Skype, which I never had lol. (Though I see the Skype icon when I look at my own profile.)
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: stereax on September 30, 2025, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 02:22:58 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 12:05:19 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 11:47:05 AMAlso, uh... there a way to hide email on the profile?

I think the email address shows only when you are looking at your own profile. (At least I hope that is the case.)
Hopefully... can you see mine? I can only see your Skype... which doesn't exist anymore.......

The only thing I see for other profiles a way to PM them. I don't even see Skype, which I never had lol. (Though I see the Skype icon when I look at my own profile.)
This is what I see on you:
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on September 30, 2025, 03:16:38 PM
How do you pick the red background and keep it on?

Mine keeps resetting to blue.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 12:14:43 PMAlso, old view is still apparently available on here. (https://dev.cornellhockeyassociation.com/index.php)

How the hell did you find that? Don't worry, it's going away soon. That extra server is costing me $5 a day.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 01:29:30 PMYet another thought - could we put the old ELynah logo at the top, where it says ELynah Forum?

Yes, this template is just a placeholder until I can make one. Or modify this one or something, but I'm going to need some time for that.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 03:19:31 PM
Quote from: LGR14 on September 30, 2025, 02:13:12 PMOne feature that would be helpful is for the topic to show by whom and when the last post was made, rather than merely who started the thread.

It does show last post author in the right hand column of the thread list.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Weder on September 30, 2025, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 02:22:58 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 12:05:19 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 11:47:05 AMAlso, uh... there a way to hide email on the profile?

I think the email address shows only when you are looking at your own profile. (At least I hope that is the case.)
Hopefully... can you see mine? I can only see your Skype... which doesn't exist anymore.......

The only thing I see for other profiles a way to PM them. I don't even see Skype, which I never had lol. (Though I see the Skype icon when I look at my own profile.)
This is what I see on you:

LOL, I feel like I post here a lot, but 893 posts in 20 years is ... not a lot.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: dag14 on September 30, 2025, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 02:22:58 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on September 30, 2025, 12:05:19 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 11:47:05 AMAlso, uh... there a way to hide email on the profile?

I think the email address shows only when you are looking at your own profile. (At least I hope that is the case.)
Hopefully... can you see mine? I can only see your Skype... which doesn't exist anymore.......

The only thing I see for other profiles a way to PM them. I don't even see Skype, which I never had lol. (Though I see the Skype icon when I look at my own profile.)
This is what I see on you:

LOL, I feel like I post here a lot, but 893 posts in 20 years is ... not a lot.

Same here  :)
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: stereax on September 30, 2025, 08:59:58 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 12:14:43 PMAlso, old view is still apparently available on here. (https://dev.cornellhockeyassociation.com/index.php)

How the hell did you find that? Don't worry, it's going away soon. That extra server is costing me $5 a day.
I'm special <3
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 01:29:30 PMYet another thought - could we put the old ELynah logo at the top, where it says ELynah Forum?

Yes, this template is just a placeholder until I can make one. Or modify this one or something, but I'm going to need some time for that.
Sweet!!! No rush at all. Thanks so much for everything!
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: abmarks on September 30, 2025, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 01:29:30 PMYet another thought - could we put the old ELynah logo at the top, where it says ELynah Forum?

Yes, this template is just a placeholder until I can make one. Or modify this one or something, but I'm going to need some time for that.

Request that first template you make is a dark mode, so we have at least one option for that.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: RichH on October 01, 2025, 01:48:16 AM
Quote from: abmarks on September 30, 2025, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: stereax on September 30, 2025, 01:29:30 PMYet another thought - could we put the old ELynah logo at the top, where it says ELynah Forum?

Yes, this template is just a placeholder until I can make one. Or modify this one or something, but I'm going to need some time for that.

Request that first template you make is a dark mode, so we have at least one option for that.

Clicking on the sun icon in the upper left corner may delight you.

It wasn't obvious to me.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: LGR14 on October 01, 2025, 08:18:23 AM
Quote from: CowbellGuy on September 30, 2025, 03:19:31 PM
Quote from: LGR14 on September 30, 2025, 02:13:12 PMOne feature that would be helpful is for the topic to show by whom and when the last post was made, rather than merely who started the thread.

It does show last post author in the right hand column of the thread list.

Looks like that is only true on the desktop site.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Beeeej on October 01, 2025, 10:00:22 AM
Quote from: RichH on Today at 01:48:16 AMmay delight you.

>:(
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: jtwcornell91 on October 01, 2025, 01:01:40 PM
I think I just figured out that "Sus Member" is short for sustaining member, and not "sus" like the kids use it these days.  My initial misconception was fostered by the fact that Trotsky was the one I noticed it on first.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Jim Hyla on October 01, 2025, 01:36:07 PM
Okay, now that you've put in all this work, how about a quick donate button for us to help repay your efforts?
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: Trotsky on October 01, 2025, 07:15:26 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91 on Today at 01:01:40 PMI think I just figured out that "Sus Member" is short for sustaining member, and not "sus" like the kids use it these days.  My initial misconception was fostered by the fact that Trotsky was the one I noticed it on first.

I appreciate this in its full flower.

Here I thought Age had simply equated being here a lot with being sus.
Title: Re: WTF Is Going On?
Post by: BearLover on October 01, 2025, 07:46:11 PM
I think it looks better when the color is set to red, but the color seems to reset to blue every time I visit the page.