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Title: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: dbilmes on August 04, 2025, 05:34:24 PM
Cornell not getting much respect from the rest of the Ivy League, as evidenced by our being picked to finish seventh in the preseason pol (https://ivyleague.com/news/2025/8/4/harvard-voted-preseason-ivy-football-favorite.aspx)l.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Ken711 on August 04, 2025, 06:05:01 PM
Quote from: dbilmesCornell not getting much respect from the rest of the Ivy League, as evidenced by our being picked to finish seventh in the preseason pol (https://ivyleague.com/news/2025/8/4/harvard-voted-preseason-ivy-football-favorite.aspx)l.

They'll need to earn it.  But I believe they are building a good base of talent each year.  Princeton coach Bob Surace was 1-9 each of his first two seasons, and Buddy Teens on his return to Dartmouth was 2-8 each of his first two seasons.  Both coaches went on to make multiple runs as Ivy League champions. Nothing is guaranteed of course with Coach Swanstrom, but with better a recruiting budget and better facilities, things that former coach Al Bagnoli requested and received during his time at Columbia, it finally paid big dividends to Columbia last season.  

This season's Ivy League schedule is a bit tough with away games at Yale, Dartmouth, Harvard and Penn, and also with Cornell breaking in a new QB. It would be nice to finish .500 or better, but I'll take competitive games.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: ugarte on August 04, 2025, 06:31:49 PM
Quote from: Ken711Buddy Teens
Buddy Teens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Suite_Life_of_Zack_%26_Cody) ran for three seasons on the Disney Channel.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: CAS on August 04, 2025, 06:55:41 PM
Cornell did win 3 Ivy games last year - finishing fifth - in Swanstrom's first season.  We finished 4-6 overall.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Ken711 on August 04, 2025, 08:41:49 PM
Quote from: CASCornell did win 3 Ivy games last year - finishing fifth - in Swanstrom's first season.  We finished 4-6 overall.

Yep good start for his first season. Nearly won the Brown game and we could have finished 5-5. It's also some behind the scenes actions like hiring a strength coach solely for the football that should have development going forward.  Interesting camp coming up with the battle for the QB.  We are going to be deep at WR, and RB depth is improved.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Ken711 on August 04, 2025, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ken711Buddy Teens
Buddy Teens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Suite_Life_of_Zack_%26_Cody) ran for three seasons on the Disney Channel.

That's what happens when I type on my phone sometimes, my eyes aren't as good as they use to be. :-D
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: ugarte on August 04, 2025, 11:56:23 PM
the preseason predictions probably assume some regression purely off of jameson wang's graduation. swapping out a three year starter is going to get skeptics.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Trotsky on August 05, 2025, 12:44:35 PM
Quote from: dbilmesCornell not getting much respect from the rest of the Ivy League, as evidenced by our being picked to finish seventh in the preseason pol (https://ivyleague.com/news/2025/8/4/harvard-voted-preseason-ivy-football-favorite.aspx)l.

FWIW there are 3 tiers of fungibles:

The Good: Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale
The Cromulent: Columbia
The Rest: Brown, Cornell, Penn, Princeton

Seems reasonable to me to predict we will fight it out for 5th through 8th, with a reach goal of 4th.

It's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight. We could even make a move into the Good if the QB situation is better than tolerable.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: stereax on August 06, 2025, 04:59:27 PM
Quote from: TrotskyIt's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight.
Reminds me of homecoming and how literally nobody wanted to ACTUALLY go and watch the game. An LLM friend and I finally made our way over and I had to spend the entire first half, I think, explaining that this is not, in fact, good football.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: marty on August 07, 2025, 04:42:39 AM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: TrotskyIt's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight.
Reminds me of homecoming and how literally nobody wanted to ACTUALLY go and watch the game. An LLM friend and I finally made our way over and I had to spend the entire first half, I think, explaining that this is not, in fact, good football.

I once attended "The Game" with my Eli son.  Those who watched the whole game, which had an exciting 4th quarter, were anti-social.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: stereax on August 07, 2025, 12:50:53 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: TrotskyIt's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight.
Reminds me of homecoming and how literally nobody wanted to ACTUALLY go and watch the game. An LLM friend and I finally made our way over and I had to spend the entire first half, I think, explaining that this is not, in fact, good football.

I once attended "The Game" with my Eli son.  Those who watched the whole game, which had an exciting 4th quarter, were anti-social.
(what's "The Game"?)
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on August 07, 2025, 01:23:11 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: marty
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: TrotskyIt's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight.
Reminds me of homecoming and how literally nobody wanted to ACTUALLY go and watch the game. An LLM friend and I finally made our way over and I had to spend the entire first half, I think, explaining that this is not, in fact, good football.

I once attended "The Game" with my Eli son.  Those who watched the whole game, which had an exciting 4th quarter, were anti-social.
(what's "The Game"?)

Harvard-Yale football game.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Trotsky on August 07, 2025, 03:06:05 PM
Quote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: jtwcornell91 on August 07, 2025, 03:19:16 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.

Isn't that The Big Game?
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: stereax on August 07, 2025, 06:39:33 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.

Isn't that The Big Game?
I thought it was the Michigan-Ohio State game. At least that's what Wikipedia says.
(Also, if I can ask, who's that in your pfp JTW?)
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Trotsky on August 07, 2025, 07:27:17 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.

Isn't that The Big Game?
I dunno, man, I'm not even supposed to be here today.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: jtwcornell91 on August 08, 2025, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.

Isn't that The Big Game?
I thought it was the Michigan-Ohio State game. At least that's what Wikipedia says.
(Also, if I can ask, who's that in your pfp JTW?)

That's me, back before the kids turned my beard white.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: arugula on August 08, 2025, 05:28:59 PM
Cal-Stanford is Big Game. No the.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: arugula on August 08, 2025, 05:29:52 PM
And it's always Cal Stanford. And Yale Harvard. At least in my home.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: stereax on August 08, 2025, 08:36:00 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.

Isn't that The Big Game?
I thought it was the Michigan-Ohio State game. At least that's what Wikipedia says.
(Also, if I can ask, who's that in your pfp JTW?)

That's me, back before the kids turned my beard white.
Ah!! Nice :)
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Ken711 on August 11, 2025, 07:52:20 PM
During the Ivy League's virtual football media day, Cornell coach Dan Swanstrom said preseason All-America WR Sam Msungu played with a torn ACL last year (while collecting 83 receptions and 10 TDs in 10 games) and may sit out the 2025 season.  He had surgery after the season and may miss this season.  WR is a deep group so hopefully we can find depth to fill in.  But his loss will still be tough for the offense if he misses the season.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: ugarte on August 11, 2025, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Ken711During the Ivy League's virtual football media day, Cornell coach Dan Swanstrom said preseason All-America WR Sam Msungu played with a torn ACL last year (while collecting 83 receptions and 10 TDs in 10 games) and may sit out the 2025 season.  He had surgery after the season and may miss this season.  WR is a deep group so hopefully we can find depth to fill in.  But his loss will still be tough for the offense if he misses the season.
oh damn that sucks. i don't feel like checking if it was posted in here (even worse, if this is where i first read it!) now that I've started typing but he was on a FCS Players To Watch list. Huge loss if true.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: wolcoma on August 30, 2025, 03:47:02 PM
Any updates on Cornell football from pre-season practices?   Nothing on the Big Red website.   The biggest question is who will replace Jameson Wang (graduated) at QB this season?    Additionally the running game really struggled last year and hopefully someone on this team can carry the ball this fall.

Hurry up and wait I guess as the first game is not until September 20th.   Go Big Red!
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Ken711 on August 30, 2025, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: wolcomaAny updates on Cornell football from pre-season practices?   Nothing on the Big Red website.   The biggest question is who will replace Jameson Wang (graduated) at QB this season?    Additionally the running game really struggled last year and hopefully someone on this team can carry the ball this fall.

Hurry up and wait I guess as the first game is not until September 20th.   Go Big Red!

If I had to guess I'd say that junior QB Devin Page wins the starting job.  RB depth is improved with the freshman they brought in, as well as the transfer from the Air Force Academy, Jordan Triplett.  Ean Pope, a junior probably starts at RB. Other than that, another big question is whether WR Samuel Musungu is recovered from his off season surgery to play this season.  I hope we see improvement on defense, as Cornell was very weak on DL play last season and in the secondary.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: wolcoma on September 17, 2025, 11:10:42 AM
Cornell opens their season at Albany this Saturday with kick-off at 7 pm.   I have no idea of what to expect this season and not much has been posted on the Big Red website.   Albany has a nice stadium (Bob Ford Field) and easy commute from the NYC metro area up Route 87 or from Ithaca on Route 88.   Thinking of going to the game, but a late night return.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: CAS on September 17, 2025, 12:38:11 PM
In a recent zoom call, Coach Swanstrom said 100% of players with eligibility chose to return to the team, & 70 were on campus over the summer, where they could train together.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: ugarte on September 17, 2025, 02:12:51 PM
Incredible thing to see in the football schedule
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Trotsky on September 17, 2025, 03:27:37 PM
Good news is Albany sucks this year.  Bad news is Albany sucked last year and destroyed us.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Ken711 on September 18, 2025, 10:23:47 AM
Hope I'm wrong, however with Cornell breaking in a new QB, their star WR out with an injury, and the inevitable first game mistakes, probably means a first game loss.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: mike1960 on September 20, 2025, 05:54:38 PM
Any optimism for this season? Will we improve on our 4-6 record from last year?
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: Ken711 on September 20, 2025, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: mike1960Any optimism for this season? Will we improve on our 4-6 record from last year?

I don't think the quality depth is there yet.  It's possible they take a set back this season having to replace Wang at QB.  Another recruiting class like this years will really help the program.  My forecast is anywhere from 2-7 to 5-5 at best.
Title: Re: Cornell Football 2025
Post by: ugarte on September 20, 2025, 06:11:54 PM
Quote from: mike1960Any optimism for this season? Will we improve on our 4-6 record from last year?
let me watch the new guys play one game before i have to offer an opinion based on their roster bios.