Cornell not getting much respect from the rest of the Ivy League, as evidenced by our being picked to finish seventh in the preseason pol (https://ivyleague.com/news/2025/8/4/harvard-voted-preseason-ivy-football-favorite.aspx)l.
Quote from: dbilmesCornell not getting much respect from the rest of the Ivy League, as evidenced by our being picked to finish seventh in the preseason pol (https://ivyleague.com/news/2025/8/4/harvard-voted-preseason-ivy-football-favorite.aspx)l.
They'll need to earn it. But I believe they are building a good base of talent each year. Princeton coach Bob Surace was 1-9 each of his first two seasons, and Buddy Teens on his return to Dartmouth was 2-8 each of his first two seasons. Both coaches went on to make multiple runs as Ivy League champions. Nothing is guaranteed of course with Coach Swanstrom, but with better a recruiting budget and better facilities, things that former coach Al Bagnoli requested and received during his time at Columbia, it finally paid big dividends to Columbia last season.
This season's Ivy League schedule is a bit tough with away games at Yale, Dartmouth, Harvard and Penn, and also with Cornell breaking in a new QB. It would be nice to finish .500 or better, but I'll take competitive games.
Quote from: Ken711Buddy Teens
Buddy Teens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Suite_Life_of_Zack_%26_Cody) ran for three seasons on the Disney Channel.
Cornell did win 3 Ivy games last year - finishing fifth - in Swanstrom's first season. We finished 4-6 overall.
Quote from: CASCornell did win 3 Ivy games last year - finishing fifth - in Swanstrom's first season. We finished 4-6 overall.
Yep good start for his first season. Nearly won the Brown game and we could have finished 5-5. It's also some behind the scenes actions like hiring a strength coach solely for the football that should have development going forward. Interesting camp coming up with the battle for the QB. We are going to be deep at WR, and RB depth is improved.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Ken711Buddy Teens
Buddy Teens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Suite_Life_of_Zack_%26_Cody) ran for three seasons on the Disney Channel.
That's what happens when I type on my phone sometimes, my eyes aren't as good as they use to be. :-D
the preseason predictions probably assume some regression purely off of jameson wang's graduation. swapping out a three year starter is going to get skeptics.
Quote from: dbilmesCornell not getting much respect from the rest of the Ivy League, as evidenced by our being picked to finish seventh in the preseason pol (https://ivyleague.com/news/2025/8/4/harvard-voted-preseason-ivy-football-favorite.aspx)l.
FWIW there are 3 tiers of fungibles:
The Good: Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale
The Cromulent: Columbia
The Rest: Brown, Cornell, Penn, Princeton
Seems reasonable to me to predict we will fight it out for 5th through 8th, with a reach goal of 4th.
It's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight. We could even make a move into the Good if the QB situation is better than tolerable.
Quote from: TrotskyIt's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight.
Reminds me of homecoming and how literally nobody wanted to ACTUALLY go and watch the game. An LLM friend and I finally made our way over and I had to spend the entire first half, I think, explaining that this is not, in fact, good football.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: TrotskyIt's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight.
Reminds me of homecoming and how literally nobody wanted to ACTUALLY go and watch the game. An LLM friend and I finally made our way over and I had to spend the entire first half, I think, explaining that this is not, in fact, good football.
I once attended "The Game" with my Eli son. Those who watched the whole game, which had an exciting 4th quarter, were anti-social.
Quote from: martyQuote from: stereaxQuote from: TrotskyIt's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight.
Reminds me of homecoming and how literally nobody wanted to ACTUALLY go and watch the game. An LLM friend and I finally made our way over and I had to spend the entire first half, I think, explaining that this is not, in fact, good football.
I once attended "The Game" with my Eli son. Those who watched the whole game, which had an exciting 4th quarter, were anti-social.
(what's "The Game"?)
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: martyQuote from: stereaxQuote from: TrotskyIt's Ivy football; it's a cripple fight.
Reminds me of homecoming and how literally nobody wanted to ACTUALLY go and watch the game. An LLM friend and I finally made our way over and I had to spend the entire first half, I think, explaining that this is not, in fact, good football.
I once attended "The Game" with my Eli son. Those who watched the whole game, which had an exciting 4th quarter, were anti-social.
(what's "The Game"?)
Harvard-Yale football game.
Quote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.
Isn't that The Big Game?
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.
Isn't that The Big Game?
I thought it was the Michigan-Ohio State game. At least that's what Wikipedia says.
(Also, if I can ask, who's that in your pfp JTW?)
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.
Isn't that The Big Game?
I dunno, man, I'm not even supposed to be here today.
Quote from: stereaxQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.
Isn't that The Big Game?
I thought it was the Michigan-Ohio State game. At least that's what Wikipedia says.
(Also, if I can ask, who's that in your pfp JTW?)
That's me, back before the kids turned my beard white.
Cal-Stanford is Big Game. No the.
And it's always Cal Stanford. And Yale Harvard. At least in my home.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: stereaxQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: stereax(what's "The Game"?)
Except for an inconsequential stretch of land from the Main Line to Hanover, Stanford-Cal.
Isn't that The Big Game?
I thought it was the Michigan-Ohio State game. At least that's what Wikipedia says.
(Also, if I can ask, who's that in your pfp JTW?)
That's me, back before the kids turned my beard white.
Ah!! Nice :)
During the Ivy League's virtual football media day, Cornell coach Dan Swanstrom said preseason All-America WR Sam Msungu played with a torn ACL last year (while collecting 83 receptions and 10 TDs in 10 games) and may sit out the 2025 season. He had surgery after the season and may miss this season. WR is a deep group so hopefully we can find depth to fill in. But his loss will still be tough for the offense if he misses the season.
Quote from: Ken711During the Ivy League's virtual football media day, Cornell coach Dan Swanstrom said preseason All-America WR Sam Msungu played with a torn ACL last year (while collecting 83 receptions and 10 TDs in 10 games) and may sit out the 2025 season. He had surgery after the season and may miss this season. WR is a deep group so hopefully we can find depth to fill in. But his loss will still be tough for the offense if he misses the season.
oh damn that sucks. i don't feel like checking if it was posted in here (even worse, if this is where i first read it!) now that I've started typing but he was on a FCS Players To Watch list. Huge loss if true.
Any updates on Cornell football from pre-season practices? Nothing on the Big Red website. The biggest question is who will replace Jameson Wang (graduated) at QB this season? Additionally the running game really struggled last year and hopefully someone on this team can carry the ball this fall.
Hurry up and wait I guess as the first game is not until September 20th. Go Big Red!
Quote from: wolcomaAny updates on Cornell football from pre-season practices? Nothing on the Big Red website. The biggest question is who will replace Jameson Wang (graduated) at QB this season? Additionally the running game really struggled last year and hopefully someone on this team can carry the ball this fall.
Hurry up and wait I guess as the first game is not until September 20th. Go Big Red!
If I had to guess I'd say that junior QB Devin Page wins the starting job. RB depth is improved with the freshman they brought in, as well as the transfer from the Air Force Academy, Jordan Triplett. Ean Pope, a junior probably starts at RB. Other than that, another big question is whether WR Samuel Musungu is recovered from his off season surgery to play this season. I hope we see improvement on defense, as Cornell was very weak on DL play last season and in the secondary.
Cornell opens their season at Albany this Saturday with kick-off at 7 pm. I have no idea of what to expect this season and not much has been posted on the Big Red website. Albany has a nice stadium (Bob Ford Field) and easy commute from the NYC metro area up Route 87 or from Ithaca on Route 88. Thinking of going to the game, but a late night return.
In a recent zoom call, Coach Swanstrom said 100% of players with eligibility chose to return to the team, & 70 were on campus over the summer, where they could train together.
Incredible thing to see in the football schedule
Good news is Albany sucks this year. Bad news is Albany sucked last year and destroyed us.
Hope I'm wrong, however with Cornell breaking in a new QB, their star WR out with an injury, and the inevitable first game mistakes, probably means a first game loss.
Any optimism for this season? Will we improve on our 4-6 record from last year?
Quote from: mike1960Any optimism for this season? Will we improve on our 4-6 record from last year?
I don't think the quality depth is there yet. It's possible they take a set back this season having to replace Wang at QB. Another recruiting class like this years will really help the program. My forecast is anywhere from 2-7 to 5-5 at best.
Quote from: mike1960Any optimism for this season? Will we improve on our 4-6 record from last year?
let me watch the new guys play one game before i have to offer an opinion based on their roster bios.
This literally just occurred to me, 5 games in. Does the Ivy champion get an auto bid into the FCS NC$$?
Edit: This seems to indicate yes: https://www.dratings.com/predictor/ncaa-football-predictions/fcs-playoff-projections/
Harvard currently projected as a 12 seed out of... 16 I guess? Or maybe 32? The NC$$ does that idiotic thing where they only show the home seeds.
Edit II: Looks like it is out of 24. Projected conference bids:
7 Missouri Valley*
4 Big Sky (I coulda sworn those guys were FBS?)
3 Southland
1 Ivy, Big South, "Northeast" (?), Patriot, Pioneer, Southern, "United" (?).
* We need to kick these guys up a level.
Looking at the FCS Coaches Poll (https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings), some familiar names:
7 Lehigh
17 Harvard
30 Lafayette
31 Penn
37 Dartmouth
Cornell is, ahem, unranked.
There are 129 FCS schools.
The full stack power ratings: https://www.versussportssimulator.com/FCS/rankings
10 Penn
13 Harvard
16 Dartmouth
29 Princeton
36 Brown
42 Yale
76 Columbia
113 Cornell
Before the Bucknell win we were dead last, so, progress!!!
It is theoretically possible to beat Brown today and put a team below us in the Ivy standings.
October 26 FCS Rankings (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/FCS/rankings):
9 Harvard
12 Dartmouth
13 Yale
15 Penn
39 Princeton
64 Brown
88 Cornell
89 Columbia
Granted I am not an attentive fan, but I can't recall a Cornell football game where we made no turnovers. Now for all I know it was the immediately prior week, but it has seemed a weakness for, oh, 45 years.
Upbeat: Note the last item in the 2025 Big Red football schedule.
Quote from: billhoward on October 26, 2025, 05:15:23 PMUpbeat: Note the last item in the 2025 Big Red football schedule.
lol i said that back here https://elf.elynah.com/index.php?msg=271972 but it looks like the image didn't make the leap to the new forum
Today's Cripple Fight is Penn.
3-zip good guys, after one.
Whoops. there is a game thread.
November 9 (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/FCS/rankings) FCS Rankings
5 Harvard
13 Dartmouth
17 Yale
26 Penn
47 Cornell
61 Princeton
70 Brown
96 Columbia
Our progression during the 4-game win streak:
129 (last in the FCS) --> 113 --> 88 --> 68 --> 47
This (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Cornell%20NY) is a fun page.
BLUF: Cornell ranks 227th in all of college football right now. When we were 0-4 we were 670th. No idea how many teams this is out of but it probably aint much more than that.
Here is a white paper on the site's theory (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/theory). John or other local geniuses: comments?
Quote from: Trotsky on November 10, 2025, 10:07:33 AMNovember 9 (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/FCS/rankings) FCS Rankings
5 Harvard
13 Dartmouth
17 Yale
26 Penn
47 Cornell
61 Princeton
70 Brown
96 Columbia
Our progression during the 4-game win streak:
129 (last in the FCS) --> 113 --> 88 --> 68 --> 47
very cool to see, especially after how we started but now i am finding myself bummed out. Season-opening loss, 13-10 to Albany? They're 1-9 now and ranked 116. 41-21 loss to Colgate? They're at 85. Blowout losses to Harvard and Yale in there too, and what happened after the 0-4 start? Swanstrom started playing his guys over Archer's recruits.
OK, feeling good again. Still don't love seeing that number next to Dartmouth when they're up next.
One final note about these rankings is that no matter what they say I'm going to need some more evidence in the postseason before I expect anything but a blowout when an Ivy or Patriot team has to take on the big dogs from the Big Sky. I don't think there's a ton of daylight between the top of the Big Sky and the MAC.
By my count we have not had a winning record in the Ivy League since 2005. Just need to win one of our last two to accomplish this, which would be a big step forward.
how is there still no highlight package from this game on either the penn or cornell sites!