Schedule just dropped and there's some good games on there including a west coast trip, but there's also a treat for those of us in Ithaca with us hosting three very good teams in Western Michigan, Akron and Syracuse.
https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-soccer/schedule/2025
Looking at the roster, Ryan Friedberg and Andrew Johnson are listed despite both of them being in the MLS super draft (and Johnson actually being selected). It's a huge boost to the potential of this team to keep those two.
Losing Harris is big and it will be hard to compensate for all of the scoring that he did for us. Harris has mostly been playing for the Rapids II squad and with his style of game I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he never manages to lock down a spot in the MLS.
I think the bigger piece that we lost is actually Alioune Ka. Ka fit coach Smith's formation and style of play so well with his work rate, scoring touch and size and I'm not sure we have anyone else that can play the winger in our 4-4-2 nearly as well.
Overall I am very confident in our defense with Friedberg, Johnson, Melly and Martin being some of the best players on the team. Our midfield should also be solid with tons of depth and plenty of experience. Up top is where we will be challenged. We're left with pretty much nobody with legit experience up top. A bunch of our recruits are listed as forwards but I have no clue about the talent of any of them, hopefully one will be able to step into a starting role.
I think fair expectations for this team are to finish in the top half of the Ivy League. I wouldn't expect us to make the NCAA tourney without winning the Ivy tourney but I sure hope I'm wrong. Those bad weather NCAA tournament games at Berman are some of my best Cornell sports memories. Looking forward to a fun season starting August 23 with an exhibition against Cortland!
Ranked #22 preseason. Feels generous but nice to see national recognition. It is truly remarkable what coach Smith has done for this program, hope we're able to hang on to him.
First game at Lemoyne 4pm. Excited to see who slots in up top for us and how the offense looks. Midfield and defense should be more than solid.
Dominating 3-0 win over an overmatched opponent.
Quote from: scoop85Dominating 3-0 win over an overmatched opponent.
Looked great on set pieces, still not sold on our forwards considering all goals came from defenders but we looked good overall. West coast trip up next against two tough teams.
West coast game against UCSB today, for anyone up for a late night
Quote from: chimpfoodWest coast game against UCSB today, for anyone up for a late night
It's a showdown of my two almae matres! (Or should that be almarum matrum since it's genitive?)
0-0 at half, our guy got sandwiched in the box last play but no call. Tremendous broadcast by UCSB, really well done.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: chimpfoodWest coast game against UCSB today, for anyone up for a late night
It's a showdown of my two almae matres! (Or should that be almarum matrum since it's genitive?)
That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about UCSB's graduate schools. Beat the tortilla tossers.
Wow 89th minute winner by Liam May, great win. Anything we get against UCI is gravy now.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: chimpfoodWest coast game against UCSB today, for anyone up for a late night
It's a showdown of my two almae matres! (Or should that be almarum matrum since it's genitive?)
De matribus almus. Prepositional phrase. The possessive is kinda "hidden" in the idiom.
Tough one, though. Had to think about it. "Of" is oversubscribed in English.
Note: we won 1-0 (https://cornellbigred.com/news/2025/9/6/mens-soccer-vs-ucsb-recap.aspx).
Ugh can't find a stream for this game, annoying
Just seeing we lost 1-0 on a goal against in the 71st minute. Outshot UCI 12-6, but it seems we haven't found the guy(s) to replace Harris or Ka as of yet. Lots of time to figure out who steps up.
Big 3-0 bounce back win over western Michigan. Looked really good today.
What is the soccer post season like? Is there a conference tournament? Is there an Ivy auto bid to the NC$$?
LMGTFM (AI so assume it is all wrong):
QuoteThe Ivy League holds a four-team conference tournament. The winner receives the automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament.
QuoteThe NCAA tournament involves single-elimination rounds played at campus sites, with the winners advancing to the "College Cup," a predetermined neutral site for the semifinals and championship. The Division I tournament features 64 teams, with the top 16 seeded and receiving a bye in the first round.
Last year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_soccer_tournament):
QuoteThree Ivies will continue on to the 2024 Men's Soccer College Cup as Cornell, Penn, and Princeton all earned berths to the NCAA Tournament.
Penn earned the number six overall seed in the College Cup as the Quakers finished the regular season with a 14-3-1 overall record and ranked seventh in the RPI metrics. Penn recorded a variety of notable non-conference wins throughout the season with victories over Pittsburgh, Hofstra, and Fordham. With the seeding, the Quakers earned a first-round bye and will take on the winner of UMass and Evansville.
Princeton, who earned the league's automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament, didn't have to stress throughout the selection show as the Tigers took down Penn, 3-1, in last weekend's conference tournament championship game. The Tigers (12-6, 5-2 Ivy) enter the tournament having won three of their last four games and will take on Akron in the first round.
Cornell received an at-large selection into the NCAA Tournament after a terrific regular season that saw the Big Red finish 12-3-2 overall and 5-2 in Ivy League play. Cornell is led by Co-Offensive Player of the Year Alex Harris who ranks second in the nation in goals per game. Cornell will take on Fordham in the opening round.
Most recent 2025 poll (https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-di-men/).
[b]Rk School Prv Points W-L-T[/b]
1. Indiana 4 197 5-0-1
2. Clemson 3 192 3-0-1
3. Akron 11 180 4-0-1
4. Wake Forest 6 178 3-0-1
5. NC State 5 167 3-0-1
6. Louisville RV 162 4-0-0
7. Gardner-Webb 13 152 5-0-0
8. Stanford 1 143 4-1-0
9. Portland 24 135 5-0-0
10. Marshall 2 128 1-0-2
11. Greensboro 12 126 4-0-1
12. High Point 15 112 3-0-1
13. Vermont 9 103 3-0-2
14. Virginia Tech 8 97 2-0-2
15. West Virginia 6 88 3-1-1
16. Utah Valley 18 80 5-0-0
17. Bryant NR 64 4-0-1
18. Kentucky 17 54 2-0-1
19. Duke 14 35 2-0-2
20. San Francisco NR 34 4-1-0
21. UNC RV 25 3-1-1
22. Cal-Irvine RV 24 4-0-1
[color=#b31313]23. Cornell NR 23 2-1-0[/color]
24. Saint Louis 16 19 3-1-1
25. San Diego NR 15 3-1-1
That Akron home game on October 7 could make this a special season.
Quote from: TrotskyWhat is the soccer post season like? Is there a conference tournament? Is there an Ivy auto bid to the NC$$?
LMGTFM (AI so assume it is all wrong):
QuoteThe Ivy League holds a four-team conference tournament. The winner receives the automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament.
QuoteThe NCAA tournament involves single-elimination rounds played at campus sites, with the winners advancing to the "College Cup," a predetermined neutral site for the semifinals and championship. The Division I tournament features 64 teams, with the top 16 seeded and receiving a bye in the first round.
Last year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_soccer_tournament):
QuoteThree Ivies will continue on to the 2024 Men's Soccer College Cup as Cornell, Penn, and Princeton all earned berths to the NCAA Tournament.
Penn earned the number six overall seed in the College Cup as the Quakers finished the regular season with a 14-3-1 overall record and ranked seventh in the RPI metrics. Penn recorded a variety of notable non-conference wins throughout the season with victories over Pittsburgh, Hofstra, and Fordham. With the seeding, the Quakers earned a first-round bye and will take on the winner of UMass and Evansville.
Princeton, who earned the league's automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament, didn't have to stress throughout the selection show as the Tigers took down Penn, 3-1, in last weekend's conference tournament championship game. The Tigers (12-6, 5-2 Ivy) enter the tournament having won three of their last four games and will take on Akron in the first round.
Cornell received an at-large selection into the NCAA Tournament after a terrific regular season that saw the Big Red finish 12-3-2 overall and 5-2 in Ivy League play. Cornell is led by Co-Offensive Player of the Year Alex Harris who ranks second in the nation in goals per game. Cornell will take on Fordham in the opening round.
Most recent 2025 poll (https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-di-men/).
[b]Rk School Prv Points W-L-T[/b]
1. Indiana 4 197 5-0-1
2. Clemson 3 192 3-0-1
3. Akron 11 180 4-0-1
4. Wake Forest 6 178 3-0-1
5. NC State 5 167 3-0-1
6. Louisville RV 162 4-0-0
7. Gardner-Webb 13 152 5-0-0
8. Stanford 1 143 4-1-0
9. Portland 24 135 5-0-0
10. Marshall 2 128 1-0-2
11. Greensboro 12 126 4-0-1
12. High Point 15 112 3-0-1
13. Vermont 9 103 3-0-2
14. Virginia Tech 8 97 2-0-2
15. West Virginia 6 88 3-1-1
16. Utah Valley 18 80 5-0-0
17. Bryant NR 64 4-0-1
18. Kentucky 17 54 2-0-1
19. Duke 14 35 2-0-2
20. San Francisco NR 34 4-1-0
21. UNC RV 25 3-1-1
22. Cal-Irvine RV 24 4-0-1
[color=#b31313]23. Cornell NR 23 2-1-0[/color]
24. Saint Louis 16 19 3-1-1
25. San Diego NR 15 3-1-1
That Akron home game on October 7 could make this a special season.
NCAA tourney is 48 teams with the top 16 getting a bye, not sure how 64 teams would work with that system.
Akron lost yesterday so they'll probably drop to around #10 this week.
Early season RPI doesn't respect our schedule. Currently at 74. Too much SOS early in the season Dartmouth is higher at 1-3. Princeton is top 10 and lost their only game against a good opponent.
https://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank
Quote from: ugarteEarly season RPI doesn't respect our schedule. Currently at 74. Too much SOS early in the season Dartmouth is higher at 1-3. Princeton is top 10 and lost their only game against a good opponent.
https://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank
Yeah I wouldn't worry much about RPI for individual teams yet but one encouraging sign is that the Ivy League average RPI is currently at .5076. I don't expect it to stay that high but with what looks like a clear top 3 of Penn, Princeton, and Cornell, that number could be enough to get all 3 in the big dance.
Quote from: chimpfoodBig 3-0 bounce back win over western Michigan. Looked really good today.
Not sure why Cornell didn't post the highlights from the game since it was in Ithaca and on ESPN+. First goal was a nice volley off a set piece, second and third were great counterattacking passes into space followed by clean finishes after nice runs right at the box. WMU defense probably got an earful during film review over the latter pair.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: chimpfoodBig 3-0 bounce back win over western Michigan. Looked really good today.
Not sure why Cornell didn't post the highlights from the game since it was in Ithaca and on ESPN+. First goal was a nice volley off a set piece, second and third were great counterattacking passes into space followed by clean finishes after nice runs right at the box. WMU defense probably got an earful during film review over the latter pair.
I found the highlights on the Cornell Athletics YouTube channel.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: ugarteQuote from: chimpfoodBig 3-0 bounce back win over western Michigan. Looked really good today.
Not sure why Cornell didn't post the highlights from the game since it was in Ithaca and on ESPN+. First goal was a nice volley off a set piece, second and third were great counterattacking passes into space followed by clean finishes after nice runs right at the box. WMU defense probably got an earful during film review over the latter pair.
I found the highlights on the Cornell Athletics YouTube channel.
they usually embed it in the game recap but thanks for the tip.
Dominant win over NJIT. My goodness our finishing needs work tho
Ivy opener vs Yale today. let's not screw this one up!
Quote from: ugarteIvy opener vs Yale today. let's not screw this one up!
Cornell up 2-1 at the half. Cornell getting more shots, Yale committing more fouls. Keep the score with the run of play. Just turned the game on and heard that Yale saved a PK late in the half to keep it close.
Slow start with Yale scoring first; Cornell with 2 toward the end of the first half. Let's hope they stay focused.
Cornell scores while I was away from my computer then rings one off the post as soon as I got back.
Another great save from the Yale goalie.
Dominant second half. 3-1 final but Yale never came close to scoring again and with slightly more touch we win by 5. Cornell was constantly dispossessing Yale and getting the ball into space. Looked great.
Saw Schafer at the game, he must be good luck
All 3 goals scored by frosh
And with our win we are rewarded with a 20 spot drop to 93 in the RPI! God I hate the soccer RPI sometimes
This was a sweet win for Cornell coach Smith. It was Cornell's first win over Yale since 2015, covering Smith's entire tenure at Cornell.
Not only did the men's soccer team defeat Yale for the first time since 2015, but the women's soccer team also beat Yale, 1-0, scoring just 58 seconds into the game. It was the women's soccer team's first Ivy road victory since 2015. We may have lost the football game to Yale, but at least the soccer and field hockey teams all beat the Yalies this weekend.
Quote from: chimpfood on September 27, 2025, 06:33:45 PMAnd with our win we are rewarded with a 20 spot drop to 93 in the RPI! God I hate the soccer RPI sometimes
Yale is the lowest ranked team in the Ivies. it'll get better, kind of. Princeton is the game that matters: currently #1!
Didn't watch because I was too busy stressing over the Red Sox but we had an absolutely dominant 5-0 win over Binghamton today. We really look like one of the better teams in the country right now, it's a shame our schedule has been so weak that our chances of getting an at large bid are seriously hurt. The committee doesn't rely on the RPI as strictly as in hockey but it still would be nice to be able to drop "bad wins" in the soccer RPI. I believe we have dropped from about #40 to #90 over the course of our 4 game win streak. That's just silly.
Quote from: chimpfood on September 30, 2025, 09:45:06 PMDidn't watch because I was too busy stressing over the Red Sox but we had an absolutely dominant 5-0 win over Binghamton today. We really look like one of the better teams in the country right now, it's a shame our schedule has been so weak that our chances of getting an at large bid are seriously hurt. The committee doesn't rely on the RPI as strictly as in hockey but it still would be nice to be able to drop "bad wins" in the soccer RPI. I believe we have dropped from about #40 to #90 over the course of our 4 game win streak. That's just silly.
From the NCAA's RPI, the remaining schedule looks like this (by rank):
1. Princeton
20. Akron
47. Harvard
51. Brown
76. Syracuse
89. Penn
97. Colgate
99. Cornell 111. Dartmouth
161. Columbia
Quote from: chimpfood on September 30, 2025, 09:45:06 PMDidn't watch because I was too busy stressing over the Red Sox but we had an absolutely dominant 5-0 win over Binghamton today. We really look like one of the better teams in the country right now, it's a shame our schedule has been so weak that our chances of getting an at large bid are seriously hurt. The committee doesn't rely on the RPI as strictly as in hockey but it still would be nice to be able to drop "bad wins" in the soccer RPI. I believe we have dropped from about #40 to #90 over the course of our 4 game win streak. That's just silly.
I watched the game, and it was as thorough a beatdown as a D1 soccer game could be. Our defense remains rock solid, and the offense is starting to find it's groove. While Ka and Harris are surely missed, this team looks as deep and dangerous as any Cornell team in recent memory.
6-2 win. Don't want to overreact because our next couple games could certainly humble us but we're looking great. Can't wait to go to Berman for the next two.
11 goals in the last two games must be too much to cut into a highlight video!
At least we're up to 58 in RPI
Big game Tuesday.
Lucky to be tied after the first half.
Halftime: Red zip; Zips zip. Zips controlling play.
aaaaargh cornell draws a penalty against the run of play with 9 minutes left but the Akron goalie made a diving save to his right. still a scoreless tie.
0-0 final. even at home this was a great result.
My loyalties were torn on this one as I grew up near Akron, took some classes in HS at Akron U, and was in the stands for their 2010 national championship ... so I'll take the tie!
Ugh, felt like we really should've won that one in the second half. On the other hand, we gave them way too many counterattacks and corners so can't be too mad. The amount of corners given up today was very concerning, considering that's how we've given up most of our goals on the season. Our whole team besides Andrew Johnson is vertically challenged, well except for Colin Johnson but I can literally see that he's afraid to head the ball out there (because I play the same way).
Kolbl was a dog today, working his ass off and getting up for headers even with the broken nose/orbital, whatever it is.
I think we have to take Miller off the pens after his 0 for 2 start. He's by far our best player but if it's not working it's not working, unless we can get a couple low leverage pens down the stretch to get him back on track for the playoffs.
These are the games that make me feel like we would be a top 5 team in the country if we still had Harris, feels like nobody on this team can finish consistently.
Ah well, decent result overall, and Saturday is the one that really matters. I would love to be able to watch the Ivy tourney from the stands here. Plus Princeton is #1 in the RPI so a lot of room to move up there if we get get a win.
Quote from: ugarte on October 07, 2025, 08:48:47 PMaaaaargh cornell draws a penalty against the run of play with 9 minutes left but the Akron goalie made a diving save to his right. still a scoreless tie.
Miller had a much better strike on tonight's PK than against Yale, but he's now 0 for 2 this year from the spot. I'm surprised Diakos isn't the guy getting those opportunities, but Smith knows a lot more about his team than I do.
Quote from: ugarte on October 07, 2025, 08:59:50 PM0-0 final. even at home this was a great result.
not that big a leap in RPI to my surprise. only up to 54.
Four games against teams in the bottom 40 of RPI is a heavy anchor. And Western Michigan was supposed to be much better. Though the Broncos could close strong.
Quote from: mountainred on October 08, 2025, 03:31:56 PMFour games against teams in the bottom 40 of RPI is a heavy anchor. And Western Michigan was supposed to be much better. Though the Broncos could close strong.
sure but i was hoping for more of a leap after the Yale bounce
Huge game against RPI #1 Princeton today ...
2-0 Princeton at half. We're not playing that much worse but we had some bad giveaways and Princeton just finished their chances, like a good team does. They're also massive so none of our balls over the top are working. Miller hasn't touched the ball much so I think second half we need to get the offense moving through him in the midfield.
And the halftime score holds. Red just could not get much going against the Tigers.
Quote from: CU77 on October 11, 2025, 06:07:07 PMAnd the halftime score holds. Red just could not get much going against the Tigers.
Second half was embarrassing. Princeton was a very good team but you can't keep try to force balls over the top against a back line that's all 6 foot 2. Also what the hell were we doing with miller in the second half, he was floating around up top instead of playing midfield.
No surprise, evel losing to Princeton bumped us up to 47.
Looked totally dominant today against a decent Colgate team. 0-0 at half but 5-0 final. I think we have to roll with this new lineup now unless it doesn't produce for a few games. No disrespect to Latona and Samways but it feels like they produce so little for how much they have played this season.
Up to 42 in RPI and now a tick ahead of Brown. Princeton still sitting at #1.
Big game against Penn today. They've had a disappointing season but they're a super talented team and we're away
Dominant half for us but no score. 0-0 at half but I'm confident we'll pull this one out.
Quote from: chimpfood on October 18, 2025, 05:53:32 PMDominant half for us but no score. 0-0 at half but I'm confident we'll pull this one out.
They did. 2-1 was the final. Penn scored their goal in the final minute just to make it interesting.
Up to 36 in the RPI. A lot of room to move up too with 59, 51, and 58 being our next three games.
NCAA Soccer Committee's top 16: https://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men/article/2025-10-17/division-i-mens-soccer-committee-reveals-top-16-rankings?amp
I'm fired up for this game today. Cornell-Syracuse games have not disappointed recently and a win here would be massive for our at large chances. Plus the night games at Berman have a great vibe.
Man, should be up 1-0 already and melly is injured
And Cuse scores their first chance of the game after we spoil three great through balls from miller and multiple crosses right along the goal line
We're generating an incredible amount of chances but the finishing has been so atrocious that we still don't have a shot on goal. But hey, at least we're looking like the better team. We've been a second half team recently and we need to be today.
Awesome game and an amazing win. This team is pretty special.
Not to be overlooked, but the Cornell women's soccer team, an Ivy doormat for decades, rallied last weekend to defeat Penn, 2-1, on the road. It was the first time Cornell won at Penn in 30 years!
Cornell closes the season with games against Brown and Dartmouth, the two teams right ahead of it in the standings. If Cornell can beat those two teams and get a little help, it might be able to grab the final spot in the Ivy tournament, which would be an amazing accomplishment.
Unrelated to this thread, but it would be interesting to track the performance of all varsity women's teams in the past few few years since Nikki Moore has been AD. One of the biggest criticisms of Andy was that many women's teams were chronically not performing well and we've seen a few coaching changes since he left.
Yet another big game today. A win would pretty much secure us a spot in the Ivy Tourney and would probably bring our at large chances above 50%.
Nice comeback win with goals in the 80th and 88th minutes after surrending a goal in the 3rd.
Currently at RPI #21
Super gutsy comeback, this team is special. That Latona goal was ridiculous, happy for him to get that on senior day.
I feel like I say this every game but Connor Miller is truly ridiculous, enjoy every moment we have him on the team because I would fully expect him to bolt after this season.
We are at 22 in the RPI now, I think unless we lose two of our next three we should be in a good spot for an at large bid, but that's really just me guessing. I hope we can get a home NCAA tourney game because this is such a fun team to watch in person.
Wow, Columbia thrashes Fordham 5-1 and the Ivy League closes non-conference play with .5211 RPI, good for fourth in the county. Miraculous. On the downside, Columbia is now on a two game win streak with 8 goals scored, so our regular season finale against them may not be the cake walk that it usually is.
We move up to 19 with their win, I really want that NCAA tourney home game. Hell, if we win the Ivy tourney we could get two.
And a spot in the Ivy tourney has been clinched.
0-0 in the 60th minute, these announcers suck.
Harvard down to 10 men with 10 mins to go
Ends as a tie. I think we play noticeably worse on turf (and the game is objectively worse to watch on turf).
Ivy tourney will be #1 Princeton vs #4 (Brown, Dartmouth, or Harvard), #2 and #3 will be Cornell and Penn, in that order unless Penn beats Princeton and Cornell loses to Columbia.
Cornell 1-0 Columbia FT
Princeton 1-0 Penn FT
Quote from: CU77 on November 08, 2025, 07:04:10 PMCornell 1-0 Columbia FT
Princeton 1-0 Penn FT
22 in the RPI now. We should have an at large bid and first round home game locked up at this point, but with Miller pulling his hamstring what looked to be pretty bad, our long term prospects take a hit.
Im lazy so AI told me how the team is doing this morning.
The 2025 Ivy League men's soccer standings show Harvard and Brown in the lead, followed by Yale and Dartmouth, while the 2025 women's soccer standings show Princeton and Dartmouth leading. The men's season has concluded, with the final standings and a tournament championship in Princeton, while the women's season appears to still be active or just ending, based on a recent announcement of the All-Ivy awards.
Quote from: upprdeck on November 11, 2025, 09:24:37 AMIm lazy so AI told me how the team is doing this morning.
The 2025 Ivy League men's soccer standings show Harvard and Brown in the lead, followed by Yale and Dartmouth, while the 2025 women's soccer standings show Princeton and Dartmouth leading. The men's season has concluded, with the final standings and a tournament championship in Princeton, while the women's season appears to still be active or just ending, based on a recent announcement of the All-Ivy awards.
that's an incredible amount of wrong information
Looking back, we finish the regular season at 21 in the RPI (unofficial (https://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank)). The *worst* result was a 1-0 road loss to UC Irvine (61) (zot zot zot) followed by a road tie at Harvard (59). Our only other non-positive results were a 2-0 home loss to Princeton (1) and a 0-0 road tie against Akron (9).
Princeton's got an inexplicable road tie against 1-10-5 James Madison (118) and a home loss to Hofstra (23) so even though they have clearly been the class of the Ivies, they've had their own bad days. Something to remember for the ILT, even though we obviously can't look past the Penn (69) rematch.
Hell of a program we've built. Emeka Eneli on UNMNT/MLS. Alex Harris in MLS. Wilson Eisner and Alouine Ka in MLS Next. Andrew Johnson '26 was drafted by MLS and plays internationally for Saint Vincent & Grenadines. Probably missing some.
Really hoping we see Miller in the lineup today but doesn't seem likely based on how his injury looked. It's been too long since we've won the Ivy, let's get it done
No Miller
Lordy, that was a pretty deke, a pretty pass, and a pretty goal.
1-0 and Miller into the game. Consider me happy.
Miller (I think?) came close to an Olympiaco with a couple of minutes left in the half.
The Zapata goal and it's setup were as pretty as Beeeej described.
And that's a final 1-0. On to the final vs [TBD]. LGR.
Some dicey moments but also a lot of chances that didn't quite make it through. Better team won.
Everything is dynamic because of the action around the country but the win over Penn moved us up to 17 in RPI.
Obviously the Princeton-Harvard game will have ripple effects on us, as will the Akron-UConn Big East semi that just went to OT the second half. Update: Akron scored early in the second half.
Quote from: ugarte on November 13, 2025, 05:54:35 PMAkron-UConn Big East semi that just went to OT the second half. Update: Akron scored early in the second half.
Two UConn goals while I was watching hoops. I don't think it'll matter a lot but it could hurt our seeding a little, especially given how close UConn is to us in RPI. (We went into today's games one spot ahead of them.)
Quote from: ugarte on November 13, 2025, 05:54:35 PMObviously the Princeton-Harvard game will have ripple effects on us...
Under five minutes in and Harvard gets the first goal Princeton has conceded in Ivy play all year.
P ties it
3-1 Princeton with 35 minutes to go
To be the best you gotta beat the best...
Any chance Cornell moves into the top 16 and gets a bye with a win over Princeton?
What is the selection process?
I found this page:
https://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank
but don't know how to weigh what it shows.
Quote from: nshapiro on November 15, 2025, 04:56:14 PMAny chance Cornell moves into the top 16 and gets a bye with a win over Princeton?
What is the selection process?
I found this page:
https://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/RPI%20Rank
but don't know how to weigh what it shows.
that's what I always use for RPI because the NCAA doesn't update very often. i think it is unofficial but accurate. i also don't know how tied to RPI the selection/seeding ultimately is.
If we beat Princeton I think we are easily top 16 in RPI though. While we were beating Penn, UConn (22) beat Akron (9) and jumped up to 17.
We will almost definitely get a bye with a win. The committee also doesn't use RPI as strictly as hockey so that should favor us with our good record/weak schedule combo.
Big time game at 11 am tomorrow. If we can win this one we can beat anyone
Quote from: chimpfood on November 15, 2025, 11:54:01 PMBig time game at 11 am tomorrow. If we can win this one we can beat anyone
LGR
Quote from: nshapiro on November 15, 2025, 04:56:14 PMAny chance Cornell moves into the top 16 and gets a bye with a win over Princeton?
Without doing anything since Friday, Cornell moved up to 18. I think we might get into the top 10 with a win over Princeton and might not fall out of the top 20 with a loss.
ugh. princeton scores about five minutes in. foul outside the box, friedberg made the save on the initial shot but princeton picked up the ball after it was punched away and got a second run at it. nice footwork, pass and finish.
Martin got fried and Friedberg could've had that one. Not liking our odds to score against this defense.
Quote from: chimpfood on November 16, 2025, 11:26:23 AMMartin got fried and Friedberg could've had that one. Not liking our odds to score against this defense.
idk i thought Vigilante's shot was really tight to the post. some gap between could have and should have, i suppose.
Since the goal, Cornell has had most of the possession but it appears to be a choice by Princeton to lean defensive. Cornell has had an opportunity or two but nothing close to converting yet. Princeton had a counterattack that almost materialized into a breakaway and a crossbar on a subsequent possession.
Cornell also dodged a bullet on a video Red Card review. Appears that Princeton requested a review after accusing a Cornell player of spitting on a prone Princeton player after a hard (but clean) tackle.
Princeton color guy appears to be a wild homer.
Penalty review... Cornell may get a chance at the tying goal with two minutes left in the half.
Quote from: ugarte on November 16, 2025, 11:54:44 AMPenalty review... Cornell may get a chance at the tying goal with two minutes left in the half.
Fuck. We get the penalty and Wollstein takes a terrible shot. Tried to get cute and make sure he didn't sail it but the timid approach let the goalie guess right and he smothered a fairly soft hit.
Wollstein nearly had a clean chance a minute earlier but he didn't gather a cross cleanly off his chest and the goalie got to the ball in the box before he could.
This is going to be a very tough second half.
A lot of sloppy play right now.
Love the Cornell kits though.
A lot of chances in the box for Cornell. Just not getting the good strike.
5 to go. Cornell starting to put pressure on. Almost a really nice through ball from the defensive half to an "offsides" attacker but the goalie rushed out to intercept the pass which had just barely too much heat.
fuuuuuuck really nice pass into space for a princeton chip over friedberg to seal it with three minutes to go.
That second Princeton goal wasn't offsides?
Quote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:08:39 PMThat second Princeton goal wasn't offsides?
not even close. if you watch the replay, look at the grass lines. defender on the opposite side of the field was at least a step ahead of him when the pass was struck.
Quote from: ugarte on November 16, 2025, 01:10:03 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:08:39 PMThat second Princeton goal wasn't offsides?
not even close. if you watch the replay, look at the grass lines. defender on the opposite side of the field was at least a step ahead of him when the pass was struck.
Pretty bad mistake then.
I don't watch a lot of college soccer. The clock stoppage is disconcerting.
and now we wait for the bracket. congrats to princeton on the season. they had the run of play against us again.
Frustrating. So many chances, but they just couldn't finish.
Hopefully this performance helps them with seeding in the tourney.
Quote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:12:41 PMQuote from: ugarte on November 16, 2025, 01:10:03 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:08:39 PMThat second Princeton goal wasn't offsides?
not even close. if you watch the replay, look at the grass lines. defender on the opposite side of the field was at least a step ahead of him when the pass was struck.
Pretty bad mistake then.
I don't watch a lot of college soccer. The clock stoppage is disconcerting.
What struck me as more bizarre are the substitution rules.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:16:32 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:12:41 PMQuote from: ugarte on November 16, 2025, 01:10:03 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:08:39 PMThat second Princeton goal wasn't offsides?
not even close. if you watch the replay, look at the grass lines. defender on the opposite side of the field was at least a step ahead of him when the pass was struck.
Pretty bad mistake then.
I don't watch a lot of college soccer. The clock stoppage is disconcerting.
What struck me as more bizarre are the substitution rules.
I heard a horn and assumed people were going on and off. What's the rule?
Quote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:17:29 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:16:32 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:12:41 PMQuote from: ugarte on November 16, 2025, 01:10:03 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:08:39 PMThat second Princeton goal wasn't offsides?
not even close. if you watch the replay, look at the grass lines. defender on the opposite side of the field was at least a step ahead of him when the pass was struck.
Pretty bad mistake then.
I don't watch a lot of college soccer. The clock stoppage is disconcerting.
What struck me as more bizarre are the substitution rules.
I heard a horn and assumed people were going on and off. What's the rule?
If you go off before halftime, you can't come back in the first half, but you can in the second. But if you go off in the second half you're done for the game.
So different from international football.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:19:26 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:17:29 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:16:32 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:12:41 PMQuote from: ugarte on November 16, 2025, 01:10:03 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:08:39 PMThat second Princeton goal wasn't offsides?
not even close. if you watch the replay, look at the grass lines. defender on the opposite side of the field was at least a step ahead of him when the pass was struck.
Pretty bad mistake then.
I don't watch a lot of college soccer. The clock stoppage is disconcerting.
What struck me as more bizarre are the substitution rules.
I heard a horn and assumed people were going on and off. What's the rule?
If you go off before halftime, you can't come back in the first half, but you can in the second. But if you go off in the second half you're done for the game.
So different from international football.
That is different.
Pretty exciting in the last few minutes. A good strike by Cornell just missed. A risky play outside the box by the Princeton goalie that could have resulted in a Cornell score.
Quote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:17:29 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:16:32 PMWhat struck me as more bizarre are the substitution rules.
I heard a horn and assumed people were going on and off. What's the rule?
Clock is stopped on substitution by the leading team (and also whenever the ref thinks a team is milking the clock). I assume this is because there is no stoppage time, so you have to fix it as it happens. There are also fixed substitution times in addition to any stoppage in play. Plus what Jeff said about the halves.
Quote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:23:10 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:19:26 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:17:29 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:16:32 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:12:41 PMQuote from: ugarte on November 16, 2025, 01:10:03 PMQuote from: mike1960 on November 16, 2025, 01:08:39 PMThat second Princeton goal wasn't offsides?
not even close. if you watch the replay, look at the grass lines. defender on the opposite side of the field was at least a step ahead of him when the pass was struck.
Pretty bad mistake then.
I don't watch a lot of college soccer. The clock stoppage is disconcerting.
What struck me as more bizarre are the substitution rules.
I heard a horn and assumed people were going on and off. What's the rule?
If you go off before halftime, you can't come back in the first half, but you can in the second. But if you go off in the second half you're done for the game.
So different from international football.
That is different.
Pretty exciting in the last few minutes. A good strike by Cornell just missed. A risky play outside the box by the Princeton goalie that could have resulted in a Cornell score.
Princeton's a damn good team, but we had our chances and kept pace with them. We showed we belonged.
OTOH that PK left something to be desired.
18th in the RPI. I guess there's a minuscule chance at a bye if the committee likes us but I can't imagine they will given our Q1 record.
Quote from: chimpfood on November 16, 2025, 01:29:10 PM18th in the RPI. I guess there's a minuscule chance at a bye if the committee likes us but I can't imagine they will given our Q1 record.
Marshall is trailing UCF, so if that holds it could help us creep up. However, Georgetown is leading UConn, so that hurts unless UConn drops a ton with a loss.
Does somebody want to write a "You are the committee" for soccer? :-*
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:40:34 PMQuote from: chimpfood on November 16, 2025, 01:29:10 PM18th in the RPI. I guess there's a minuscule chance at a bye if the committee likes us but I can't imagine they will given our Q1 record.
Marshall is trailing UCF, so if that holds it could help us creep up. However, Georgetown is leading UConn, so that hurts unless UConn drops a ton with a loss.
Does somebody want to write a "You are the committee" for soccer? :-*
it's bouncing around so much - we're back to 20 with remaining games that make us more likely to fall than rise, imo. we were 23 in the coaches' rankings going into the game so i don't see any path to top 16. so it goes. at least we should play at home in the first round again.
Quote from: ugarte on November 16, 2025, 02:42:07 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 16, 2025, 01:40:34 PMQuote from: chimpfood on November 16, 2025, 01:29:10 PM18th in the RPI. I guess there's a minuscule chance at a bye if the committee likes us but I can't imagine they will given our Q1 record.
Marshall is trailing UCF, so if that holds it could help us creep up. However, Georgetown is leading UConn, so that hurts unless UConn drops a ton with a loss.
Does somebody want to write a "You are the committee" for soccer? :-*
it's bouncing around so much - we're back to 20 with remaining games that make us more likely to fall than rise, imo. we were 23 in the coaches' rankings going into the game so i don't see any path to top 16. so it goes. at least we should play at home in the first round again.
The committee tends to have a very different opinion than the coaches poll so I don't think it's entirely out of the realm of possibility. But, in practice, a first round game against someone like Lafayette isn't a whole lot different than a bye, but it does suck for the guys who appear to be nursing injuries like Miller and Johnson.
Looks like the dust settled with us at 19. If we pretend that RPI is the be all and end all, that would have us hosting the 46 seed in the first round. That said, there are a number of automatic bids outside of the top 50. We'll probably face one of them, especially since there are a few in the northeast to minimize first round travel which i think is a factor in placement:
55. UC Irvine (an early season road loss for us so we shouldn't get cocky)
63. Siena
68. Farleigh Dickinson (in NJ)
71. Elon (in NC)
84. Western Michigan
90. Lindenwood (in Missouri)
97. Cleveland State
107. Lafayette