Why are we so obsessed with the 2025 Cornell thread that was started 9 months ago?
Today:
Richmond over UNC
Penn St over Colgate
Princeton over Towson
Georgetown beats Duke
If Cornell beats Albany, Richmond is not the team I would have wanted them to play in the next round.
But any day where Duke lacrosse gets eliminated is a good one. ::cheer::
Notre Dame up on OSU 12-5 early in the 4th.
15-6 ND, final.
I really did not want ND in our bracket ...
Quote from: CU7715-6 ND, final.
I really did not want ND in our bracket ...
The winner is a mild surprise to me. The margin is incredibly surprising.
Maryland taking care of Air Force 10-2 in the 3rd
Massey pre-game prediction was ND 13-10 https://masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=2018974 Then ND played its best game of the year and OSU its worst since the season-opening loss to Utah.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: CU7715-6 ND, final.
I really did not want ND in our bracket ...
The winner is a mild surprise to me. The margin is incredibly surprising.
Doesn't matter. Let's get past Albany and then Richmond. Who would u guys wanna play? Everyone left can beat us if the stars align. We can also beat everyone on our best day. Princeton scares the hell out of me (I know, we beat them twice already).
Harvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
Quote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Quote from: ERQuote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Cuse with 6 straight to go up 12-11.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ERQuote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Cuse with 6 straight to go up 12-11.
Shocking
Quote from: ERQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ERQuote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Cuse with 6 straight to go up 12-11.
Shocking
Syracuse coughed it up somehow. OT, but I'm turning it off for obvious reasons.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ERQuote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Cuse with 6 straight to go up 12-11.
Syracuse gags it back. With more time on the shot clock than game clock, Harvard forces a turnover and ties it with 6 seconds left.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ERQuote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Cuse with 6 straight to go up 12-11.
Syracuse gags it back. With more time on the shot clock than game clock, Harvard forces a turnover and ties it with 6 seconds left.
I'm actually pulling for Syracuse because I don't want Princeton to completely coast to championship weekend.
You get your wish.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ERQuote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Cuse with 6 straight to go up 12-11.
Syracuse gags it back. With more time on the shot clock than game clock, Harvard forces a turnover and ties it with 6 seconds left.
I'm actually pulling for Syracuse because I don't want Princeton to completely coast to championship weekend.
I think they are regardless.
Yeah, I'm not convinced Syracuse gets past Princeton either. That was a game Harvard blew--Princeton isn't doing the same if put in the same situation in the 1st half
Harvard gave up five goals in a span of less than two minutes, and didn't help itself by taking several costly penalties late in the game.
Quote from: dbilmesHarvard gave up five goals in a span of less than two minutes, and didn't help itself by taking several costly penalties late in the game.
...and Harvard still sucks. (https://youtu.be/axByUFSa7N8?si=TGKfXcfL-22RQfFs)
Quote from: dbilmesHarvard gave up five goals in a span of less than two minutes, and didn't help itself by taking several costly penalties late in the game.
Not to mention they couldn't win a face off.
That was a really ugly run of play.
After the first game at Hofstra had so much red, now there's so much orange.
1-1 early.
now 5-5 with 1 min in 1st period
Odd penalty call on the Princeton goalie. 30 second delay-of-game for rolling the ball away after a failure to advance call. Now Princeton has to put in a cold goalie for the 30 second penalty.
Quote from: RichHOdd penalty call on the Princeton goalie. 30 second delay-of-game for rolling the ball away after a failure to advance call. Now Princeton has to put in a cold goalie for the 30 second penalty.
it didn't seem egregious at all. good job by the defense to pick off the one shot 'cuse got off against the newly-invented GOGO.
Insane final 20 seconds of the half. Princeton scored twice and after McCool chases a rebound, he gets called with a 2-minute unreleasable direct contact to the head penalty. Syracuse won the most consequential faceoff with 2 seconds left to get the ball to start the 3rd.
11-10 Tigers
How is a train horn allowed if a band isn't?
Because the horn plays for both teams. Also, I heard the pep band playing Davy after the end of the first half in our game
Now 17 - 17 with 7 mins to go !
Quote from: profudgeNow 17 - 17 with 7 mins to go !
SU had a huge third and led 16-11. This one is epic.
19 - 18 the Orange they have possession and 3:33 to go !!! EPIC
After watching the swarming defensive sets Richmond put out there, the Princeton and Syracuse defenses look quaint and puny.
The goal pipes at Hofstra are getting hammered today.
The best part of this game is that one of them has to lose.
Quote from: toddloseQuote from: RichHQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ERQuote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Cuse with 6 straight to go up 12-11.
Syracuse gags it back. With more time on the shot clock than game clock, Harvard forces a turnover and ties it with 6 seconds left.
I'm actually pulling for Syracuse because I don't want Princeton to completely coast to championship weekend.
I think they are regardless.
PRINCETON IS OUT
Cuse wins a thriller, 19-18. One goal lead for Cuse for the last few minutes as they hit the pipe over and over while McCool made two clutch saves including one with 30 seconds left.
Quote from: ugarteCuse wins a thriller, 19-18. One goal lead for Cuse for the last few minutes as they hit the pipe over and over while McCool made two clutch saves including one with 30 seconds left.
I'll be at the games in Annapolis tomorrow. Rooting for penn state for payback and bc who wants to play the defending champion. Also rooting for Georgetown because well Maryland
I was sorry to see Princeton get eliminated today. You want offense, you got it in that Princeton/Syracuse game--it was 11-10 Princeton---AT THE HALF--while Cornell grinded out a 13-12 final. Would have been nice to have two Ivy league teams in the final four again. Both Penn State and Notre Dame scare me. Notre Dame scares me slighlty more (even though if, before the NCAA tournament, I had to list 2025 oopponents that I would NOT want to see again, #2 on the list would have been Penn State. Richmond would have been #1.)
Quote from: RichHQuote from: toddloseQuote from: RichHQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteQuote from: ERQuote from: IcebergHarvard up 8-2 at the Dome after the first half. Syracuse looking bad against a team they previously faced
In true Harvard fashion they will choke
Cuse with 6 straight to go up 12-11.
Syracuse gags it back. With more time on the shot clock than game clock, Harvard forces a turnover and ties it with 6 seconds left.
I'm actually pulling for Syracuse because I don't want Princeton to completely coast to championship weekend.
I think they are regardless.
PRINCETON IS OUT
That's great news in my mind!!
cornell trying to play every team on the schedule twice this year it seems. Got to avoid the Princeton 3 peat anyway
Quote from: upprdeckcornell trying to play every team on the schedule twice this year it seems. Got to avoid the Princeton 3 peat anyway
Unless Penn State gets its act together, that's not going to happen. Notre Dame ahead, 8-3, late in second quarter.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: upprdeckcornell trying to play every team on the schedule twice this year it seems. Got to avoid the Princeton 3 peat anyway
Unless Penn State gets its act together, that's not going to happen. Notre Dame ahead, 8-3, late in second quarter.
I think Penn State makes a run but I don't know if they have the horses against ND. If ND holds on, we'll be facing a championship club with a lot of pride. We'll have to play our best lacrosse of the year to keep the caravan moving.
[maybe comment ND-PS under its own subheading]
Penn State 2 1 6 5 — 14
Notre Dame 3 5 4 0 — 12
12-9 ND, end of 3rd.
That last Traynor Gait-like dive goal was amazing!
Quote from: mike196012-9 ND, end of 3rd.
That last Traynor Gait-like dive goal was amazing!
I thought of Gait on that one, too.
PSU not giving up yet.
All tied at 12!
8:34 left.
And...tied.
Uncharacteristic poor defense by ND allowing Traynor to run through them and face up with the keeper.
Edit: I haven't watched ND this year, but I don't recall them playing this poorly on D in previous years. They are usually feral when they are on the ball.
Quote from: mike1960Uncharacteristic poor defense by ND allowing Traynor to run through them and face up with the keeper.
I think ND doesn't know what's hit them. Their D is just flustered.
PSU now up by 2 with a little French pastry. They are playing loose and well.
Two consecutive possessions by ND end because of shots without backup.
What a save!
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82What a save!
PSU played some great lacrosse in the last few minutes. Very impressive. Looks like they'll go on to win.
I can't wait. Bring 'em on. We have unfinished business with those guys.
Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82What a save!
I can't wait. Bring 'em on. We have unfinished business with those guys.
That's how I feel. I hope our boys do, too.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82What a save!
I can't wait. Bring 'em on. We have unfinished business with those guys.
That's how I feel. I hope our boys do, too.
I am glad Penn State won because I think Notre Dame would have been very tough. Penn State of course will be very tough, too, I just think Notre Dame is overall a better team.
Just no more two minute unreleasables on Cascadden please...
What concerns me now is that Penn State was missing their entire starting attack in the game against Cornell...and still won. Now they have all of these guys back. Am I right about this?
Quote from: djk26Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82What a save!
I can't wait. Bring 'em on. We have unfinished business with those guys.
That's how I feel. I hope our boys do, too.
I am glad Penn State won because I think Notre Dame would have been very tough. Penn State of course will be very tough, too, I just think Notre Dame is overall a better team.
Just no more two minute unreleasables on Cascadden please...
What concerns me now is that Penn State was missing their entire starting attack in the game against Cornell...and still won. Now they have all of these guys back. Am I right about this?
Traynor was out and it showed. We controlled that game and were clearly the better team. But this time will be a lot tougher. Job 1 will be to play better defense on Traynor than Notre Dame did. They let Traynor have his way and score three or four straight.
The PSU zone stopped the ND offense in the 4th because, according to Carc, ND does not have outside shooters. I believe him. No one could land a step down so they forced the ball inside and were stuffed. If PSU plays zone against us, we have three or four guys who have cannons from the outide, esp. Big Hugh.
Quote from: mike1960Quote from: djk26Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: mike1960Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82What a save!
I can't wait. Bring 'em on. We have unfinished business with those guys.
That's how I feel. I hope our boys do, too.
I am glad Penn State won because I think Notre Dame would have been very tough. Penn State of course will be very tough, too, I just think Notre Dame is overall a better team.
Just no more two minute unreleasables on Cascadden please...
What concerns me now is that Penn State was missing their entire starting attack in the game against Cornell...and still won. Now they have all of these guys back. Am I right about this?
Traynor was out and it showed. We controlled that game and were clearly the better team. But this time will be a lot tougher. Job 1 will be to play better defense on Traynor than Notre Dame did. They let Traynor have his way and score three or four straight.
The PSU zone stopped the ND offense in the 4th because, according to Carc, ND does not have outside shooters. I believe him. No one could land a step down so they forced the ball inside and were stuffed. If PSU plays zone against us, we have three or four guys who have cannons from the outide, esp. Big Hugh.
Wasn't too impressed with the way ND played today. Important thing is penn state adjusted. And much like Richmond, they believe (know) they can beat us. Which is really half the battle. However, I don't think they are anywhere as good as us on our best day
I think ND's ceiling was the highest of the remaining team so won't shed tears for them no longer being in the way, but the way in which PSU won that game is the exact reason why I was a bit ambivalent on who I'd rather see. There will definitely be some familiarity with this matchup, as we've played them every year since 2016. We're 3-6 in that time, and of the matches that have been blowouts, all have gone in Penn State's favor.
This game is such a snoozer. I don't see either of them being competitive against Syracuse. Both teams are offensively challenged.
Georgetown has turned over the ball with poor passes way too many times. Both goalies are actually pretty decent. Maryland is the way better team but I'm not too impressed with them should we have to face them. #10 is a force to be reckoned with. He seems to be involved in every goal today
One again half of the head coaches in the Final Four are Cornell alumni, and a third is a former Cornell head coach.
Georgetown couldn't get their hands free to shoot at all. Maryland was hardly better on offense but they did shoot more freely. Maryland goalie was great when G'town got any kind of look.
I was a lot more nervous immediately after the Richmond game than I am after the other three games but of course all of the remaining teams are insanely talented.
Cradle of lacrosse coaches.
Inside Lacrosse just republished this look back at the 1976 championship game (https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/cornell-maryland-and-the-greatest-ncaa-championship-of-all-time/65358) between Cornell and Maryland, calling it "the greatest championship game of all time." I was in the stands in Providence that day and would have to agree!
Quote from: dbilmesInside Lacrosse just republished this look back at the 1976 championship game (https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/cornell-maryland-and-the-greatest-ncaa-championship-of-all-time/65358) between Cornell and Maryland, calling it "the greatest championship game of all time." I was in the stands in Providence that day and would have to agree!
I, too.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: dbilmesInside Lacrosse just republished this look back at the 1976 championship game (https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/cornell-maryland-and-the-greatest-ncaa-championship-of-all-time/65358) between Cornell and Maryland, calling it "the greatest championship game of all time." I was in the stands in Providence that day and would have to agree!
I, too.
And me!
The 1976 game was also excellent because overtime then was a pair of four-minute overtimes, not first-goal-wins. This is the more sensible way to settle a lacrosse match. Not just because Maryland got the first OT goal yet Cornell won by three.
My fondest recall, other than coming back from that early deficit, was the final (I believe) OT goal where French and McEneaney both broke in on the Maryland goalie after French knocked down Frank Urso, one of the game's best middies ever and built like a tall fire hydrant. Cornell's French Connection ran pretty much unmolested toward the goal, McEneaney faked a shot, flipped to French, who buried it.
I still want the OT rule changed, and not just because of Syracuse 15 years ago in the title game. It'd be insane to say first OT bucket wins in basketball. Even the NFL is changing playoff games so both teams get a shot at the ball. So why not lacrosse in playoff overtime?
AFAIK there is no push for that in lax circles.
Biggest current issue is penalties for head contact, like the one on Cascadden that cost us the PSU game.
Quote from: billhowardI still want the OT rule changed, and not just because of Syracuse 15 years ago in the title game. It'd be insane to say first OT bucket wins in basketball. Even the NFL is changing playoff games so both teams get a shot at the ball. So why not lacrosse in playoff overtime?
Agreed. Lacrosse isn't hockey where goals are relatively few. In lax, win the face off and you have a good chance of winning the game.
Quote from: George64Quote from: billhowardI still want the OT rule changed, and not just because of Syracuse 15 years ago in the title game. It'd be insane to say first OT bucket wins in basketball. Even the NFL is changing playoff games so both teams get a shot at the ball. So why not lacrosse in playoff overtime?
Agreed. Lacrosse isn't hockey where goals are relatively few. In lax, win the face off and you have a good chance of winning the game.
Totally agree with this--I hate sudden death overtime for lacrosse. It makes it harder to sell lacrosse as a "high scoring game" to new fans.
Quote from: djk26Quote from: George64Quote from: billhowardI still want the OT rule changed, and not just because of Syracuse 15 years ago in the title game. It'd be insane to say first OT bucket wins in basketball. Even the NFL is changing playoff games so both teams get a shot at the ball. So why not lacrosse in playoff overtime?
Agreed. Lacrosse isn't hockey where goals are relatively few. In lax, win the face off and you have a good chance of winning the game.
Totally agree with this--I hate sudden death overtime for lacrosse. It makes it harder to sell lacrosse as a "high scoring game" to new fans.
Why in the world did they change it? Dumb.
Maryland 6, Syracuse 1 midway in Q2 and the announcers just said McCool is keeping Syracuse in it.
Cuse looking lackadaisical early on, UMD sharp.
8-1 now. Maryland and Syracuse are not playing the same game.
Is it wrong I'm pulling for Syracuse?
Quote from: toddloseIs it wrong I'm pulling for Syracuse?
Nothing wrong with it, but I can't do it. I just want whoever wins to be gassed.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: toddloseIs it wrong I'm pulling for Syracuse?
Nothing wrong with it, but I can't do it. I just want whoever wins to be gassed.
Some guy sat down next to me early in the SU-MD game and asked me who I was rooting for. My reply? "A long overtime game".
Quote from: Chris H82Quote from: scoop85Quote from: toddloseIs it wrong I'm pulling for Syracuse?
Nothing wrong with it, but I can't do it. I just want whoever wins to be gassed.
Some guy sat down next to me early in the SU-MD game and asked me who I was rooting for. My reply? "A long overtime game".
Doesn't look like that'll happen, but we can hope.
Well that's not happening ...
Maryland's goalie is making a ton of stops.
He's extremely good. Back in 22, he had 17 saves against 7 goals for Cornell in the national championship game.
Quote from: CU77He's extremely good. Back in 22, he had 17 saves against 7 goals for Cornell in the national championship game.
They talked about how he's from Corning, NY about 20 times. I was most likely living there when he was born.
Hopefully we can solve him.
He can be vulnerable. Q&C neglected to mention that he had zero saves aginst five goals in the first half of last year's national championship game against ND, and finished with 10 saves against 15 goals.
And Maryland somehow lost to Michigan, Rutgers, and OSU this year.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: CU77He's extremely good. Back in 22, he had 17 saves against 7 goals for Cornell in the national championship game.
They talked about how he's from Corning, NY about 20 times. I was most likely living there when he was born.
Hopefully we can solve him.
"The brick wall from the city of glass."
How long were they waiting to break out that gem?
We better figure out some zone offense today or Maryland might just shut us out.
Quote from: upprdeckWe better figure out some zone offense today or Maryland might just shut us out.
We've played well against the zone this season. Swinging it from X to Big Hugh for a step down is a zone buster.
Sure we have. But we scored 1 goal in about 17 min vs zone vs PSU
Quote from: upprdeckSure we have. But we scored 1 goal in about 17 min vs zone vs PSU
We hit one crossbar and CJ somehow missed a layup during that stretch
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: upprdeckSure we have. But we scored 1 goal in about 17 min vs zone vs PSU
We hit one crossbar and CJ somehow missed a layup during that stretch
Yep. I haven't watched Maryland all year so I don't know what to worry about. Probably just as well. I expect a well coached team in all phases of the game.
I hope we can start the game less tight than we did against PSU. Coach is intense, but we play better when we're swinging the ball and having fun.
I would also like to see our ride have an impact on the game.
Quote from: upprdeckSure we have. But we scored 1 goal in about 17 min vs zone vs PSU
Didn't Cornell build a 10-6 lead against the same Penn State zone?
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckSure we have. But we scored 1 goal in about 17 min vs zone vs PSU
Didn't Cornell build a 10-6 lead against the same Penn State zone?
No, Penn State was in man-to-man most of the game before switching to zone.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: upprdeckSure we have. But we scored 1 goal in about 17 min vs zone vs PSU
Didn't Cornell build a 10-6 lead against the same Penn State zone?
No, Penn State was in man-to-man most of the game before switching to zone.
I thought they switched to zone in the third quarter before our run though. I could be wrong though.